#i keep wanting to do a big document just about the character differences between OG miguel and drider mig

[politemenacephd]

Question: So, if Miguel knows spider!reader in Arachnophilia, and spider!mig is mentioned in AFM, does reader know her own spider variant (personally or from Miguel/other spiders mentioning them) ??

I love both stories, and obvi the idea of Miguel & Reader being tied in several universes, but I was just curious on the idea of reader knowing.

oh im SO GLAD I get to talk about this THANK YOU SM cos its been on my mind for days!! I will use this chance to actually drop the dante fic cinematic universe timeline, which is: easing tensions - arachnophilia - a fortunate mistake - a fortunate mistake II There's certain things I gotta keep vague because I know how arachnophilia ends (and how it might tie into AFM II) and I don't want to spoil, but I'll talk about a bit because I'm rabid rn.

I wanna add for the sake of my lore on multiverse stuff, Miguel's who are turned into Spider-men are quite rare? I think this gets mentioned in AFM but Miguel's in general are rare, Spider Miguel's even more so. I took him saying Gabi's universe was the one where he was happy to heart, along with the fact we see zero variants of him in the society. That shit was always the most interesting thing to flesh out. I also don't know if I've ever talked about nena's multiverse story properly either, but its pretty tragic. She largely only exists in universes where Miguels' exist, and in all the ones where she comes into contact with him she dies. Our Miguel's universe is the only one where she doesn't, and Miguel blames this inititally on his canon but, as we know, canon isn't real, in reality it's because our Miguel was the only one with multi-verse experiences that humbled his apathy and violent tendencies. It's sort of like how meeting Miles put Peter B. on a better course, Peter's influence on Miguel is something no other Miguel had and it changed him in a way that made him capable of growing. Vig is the only other one we've met and it's obviously implied he was a poor partner who became a good dad after nena's death. Nena is like, universal collatoral damage, and it's only in the universe where she wasn't 'meant' to love him that she got to be loved. It's fucked up and she deserved better fr.

BUT I will say, to actually answer the question (sorry lol) the reader in arachnophilia is actually not a variant of the reader from AFM. I am sticking with the rule that AFM reader is never a spider, because its important later hehe.

BUT! But this makes Spider!Mig and readers relationship equally interesting to me anyway. I am a sucker for starcrossed lovers, excellent trope, and while it was meant to be a one-off I wanna use it to explore the idea of fully abandoning ones canon and exploring a relationship beyond the bounds of ones universe. I will be going more into Spider!Migs backstory for this, but I think the films never properly addressed the potential dangers/tragedy of love between people from different universes. I used it a bit with OG Miguel with my explanation for what happened with Gabi, E.g him trying to combine their universes, but this is especially spicy. So, again, actual question (I'm so sorry I swear this is all I think about, rip my PhD) as of AFM II reader also doesn't know about Miguel's variants beyond Vig, YET. Miguel is aware of Spider!Mig and reader as of AFM, and if you go back you can see a lot of his mindset in there, especially when he talks about not wanting kids because of his genetic mess and feeling like he's too dangerous.

Miguel as a character is great, I can't say that enough, he's harboring so much self loathing and unaddressed trauma that while he wants to do the right thing he imposes very strict rules that always end in hypocricy. In the same way I think he's awful to Miles because he see's Miles making the same mistake he did (e.g destroying the universe for a loved one) and a lot of his violence is like, imposed, he's awful to his variants because he knows he's fucked up his own moral compass and takes it out on them.

But yes Miguel knows where they are, he has not told reader though, but I do want to have them cross paths.

[sleepymccoy]

I need a bit of advice

You're one of my favourite writers. I love everything about the way you write and I aspire to be as good as you

I've been planning a series of books for almost three years. I, being an idiot, have written nothing down. I want to write everything down but there's so many little details and things, I have no idea how to organise it all. I know that over planning probably won't help too much, but these characters and their stories matter so much to me. Also, I really enjoy planning things out. I have no idea what to do or where to even start.

And, any advice on getting over writers block/not being able to look at the screen when I write because I'm cringing so hard?

You are my favourite. You make me so happy. I want you to have a wonderful life.

(Also I think this applies to more people than me but I 1000% think of you like a celebrity and me speaking to you right now is so cool I'm fangirling really hard. You're awesome)

This is very kind of you, and also buck wild cos I'm just a dude, my mate. Also, I appreciate your commitment cos I haven't posted in like a year whoops. I still write tho, promise!

I've also been trying to write a book for a few years, and I have not done so at all so take my advice with many grains of salt. Esp cos I don't plan anything, I just scrawl

I had a lot of trouble with setting characters and relationships up, cos I'm used to that work being done already. So I just started skipping that. For the last year I've basically been writing fanfic of my og fiction plot that still only lives on my head. It's a lot of fun, I made these characters the way they are cos I like that, it's fun writing them in different little stand alone fic scenarios

In terms of starting to write, everyone has a different method that works. Some people write complex fic plot summaries that they follow, some do dot points, some think it through to finished, and some just start with a vague idea of where they're going

I'm the last type, I prep nothing. Hence why I'm not sure my advice will apply to you, given you love planning. I have reluctantly written dot point summaries of my fics when they're nearly done just to make sure the plot does actually move forward correctly, and I only do that when they're quite long and I'm struggling to keep it all in mind at once. And so I can more easily see where I can insert my random little side moment interactions I've written in-between bits

I write by aggressively imagining the scene, and desperately writing the dialogue only as quickly as I can so I don't pause my imagining at all. Then I read over the dialogue beats and edit them until I'm happy, then start actually adding dialogue tags and descriptions and paragraphs.

I dunno if any of that might help you. I have my docs set to dark mode and do a lot of first draft (dialogue only) writing in bed.

There's advice I've seen around that you should write the scenes you want to. Like, just start the fun scene. It's what you wanna write, it'll be what others want to read cos it's the cool scene. Just keep skipping the bits in-between and writing the fun scenes, and you may find there's a lot more done that you thought.

Like, if your plot layout has, I dunno,

Characters meet... Setting summary... Plot hook... First plot conflict... Pleasant evening... Tasty, heart breaking breakup scene... Get back together... Second plot conflict... So on

But all youre thinking about is the tasty heartbreaking scene, just write that out. You might change the plot completely down the line, and that scene that got you started is suddenly character study (or, fanfic) rather than a scene. That's chill. That's good

Alternatively, maybe don't plan on a screen. Draw out the plot arc on a piece of paper. Back of a newspaper. Something that won't feel so big and important as your nicely filed and properly named document

Ily