#i wish theyd had more episodes on other planets so they could do it more

[master-missysversion]

I love the approach to alien cultures in the chibnall era, I feel like we're always finding out so much about alien worlds and what things are like there. Both in more serious ways, like Angstrom talking about her planet being cleansed, and in more fun ways, like Yoss thinking the idea of people giving birth to either gender weird

[gayspock]

random ds9 thoughts like a month after i finished it

its funny who becomes my fave in retrospect and after i sit with it for some time btw. i came away from ds9, let it sit, bc now im like thinking. my god they did some really good groundwork with kira and she might have been one of my faves the more i think abt it but its like. isnt it all the more sad that, whilst she DID still get some really good episodes later on, exploring her and her situation, that they did sort of.. sighhhh it felt like her overall character arc sort of tapered a little like

her in the beginning. she really is an ex terrorist (by her own admission) whos won the war and now shes been forced into a bureaucratic position and there's exploration there on exactly what that means, how its what shes wanted and how she doesnt have to fight any more and she can help make progress, but also how sometimes thats at the cost of her own principles and directly against things she would have done before (like im thinking the episode progress in particular- i really liked that episode) as well as the delicate balance of her faith and keeping inline with that and doing whats good for bajor and for her people above else but also you know this newfound perspective ... its the way things become more complicated and the transition between fighting tooth and nail for something so singular with your life to the minutae of what it means to go forwards not just in the theory but in the practicality of what that actually means to do and its like. sighhhhhhhhhhh. i will forever be quite sad because whilst i obviously am so happy with all the plotlines the dominion brought in and how that opened the door its just such a shame that the more close, more "smallscale" (as if a planet could ever be such) politics of bajor really did get sort of . shifted off to the side and im not saying kira didnt develop and that those didnt change but i just wish theyd done better by it. like both bareil and shakaar didnt HAVE to be such shallow onscreen relationships and the thing is i dont minddd that i think ive said it before like. i dont mind if a character does just have a relationship thats kind of kept offscreen because whilst a very limited thing it can add something even if again limited BUT the thing is it jsut felt like. the fact they were both such important political presences and they just kinda got wasted? sighhhhhh sigh sigh bc in the end it jsut feels like. kira was floating around quite a lot which isnt bad and like i said she still gave some extremely good stories and was important in the show but it also felt she stagnated a little, like and i suppose you could argue well she did sort of find herself at peace by the end with her position between starfleet and bajor and it was more of a subtle growth from start to end and trueee but nonetheless babe like. potential was had here and its a shame and i think again it does also

like ok. odo/kira lets speak of itbc im weirdly like totally fuckin ambivalent to them at this point and i genuinely mean that like. so totally neutrally like ive said it before like: - started off hearing that it happened and i thought to ymself "thats insane and it doesnt work" - as a precursor to it happening, i did warm up to it a little in the sense of "i dont think they're right for each other but they do obviously care for and have been through stuff together and i think it makes sense if they end up in a relationship for misguided reasons as that would sort of align with them and how they may choose to interpet things before realising we're just besties" - to well i think you missed the opportunity to do that actually now its just been so long where youve had them in this awkward maybe zone and i feel like the aforementioned thing was only applicable to where they were as people at the time and now its les likely - to just: ehrm well i guess its happening? i guess? okay ehrm....

and its like the thing is NOWWW now now now im like. hm. i still just kinda feel neutral like "oh i guess theyre together?" and its like hey you know that can be fine frankly like. i dont think every relationship itself has to have intrigue necessarily - like i guess they CAN just be together, and it would only be annoying if they tried to like. used it and tried to make it more than it actually was which i dont think they did, at least not too much like. the show kind of just had it settled like yes theyre together. no we're not going to do some big tragic nightmare with them theyre just kind of vibing.

but that being said all that being said mannn i feel like... they should have done more with it. not in the sense of like them actually dating-dating like i dont careee abt that sort of thing if that makes sense like ehrm. what i mean is- and they did touch on it a bit - is that i sort of wish they'd use ti more to actually further them as characters if they were going to bother with it in the end like... odo technically being a cardassian collaborator. hi. they did do SOME stuff on that but also its jst like theres things like that where like... i DONT KNOW. and similarly its funny bc. i also kinda felt a little lukewarmish towards odo near the end in a very similar sense to kira bc i REALLY AM OBSESSED with him in the sense of , like- ok autistic king..... bc i did actually really come to love the parallels there and its like you know but i dont know . squints. it felt like he didnt get... the right sort of focus near the end- like he was doing stuff but i jsut wasnt that intrigued by the episodes and the stuff he was doing though granted. i think i need to rwatch some day in general bc i do get so fuzzy with stuff like that and i did get very loopy towards the end of ds9 so hrmm but

my point is idk man idk idk idk like. i jst feel like theres more they could have done and like i said im just not against their whole thing i guess if only... they could have done more with it bc i do think theres a balance to strike there yeah ? with both of them but honestly. anwyays