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pantheonpercussion · 7 years
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@Regrann from @drumsoundtheology: One cannot simply keep quiet while your guitarists and bassist are tuning their axes. #pantheonpercussion #singaporedrummers #JamNite
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I’m only just finding out that the catholic bible has more books than other versions, now you’re no longer catholic do you still go by the catholic bible? I’m probably gonna read the books online to see what I’m missing out on
You mean the Apocrypha? Yeah I have heard. My family has a Catholic bible in our home (we used to be Catholic btw). And it contains some texts that kinda contradicts the entirety of the true Bible (which contains 66).
The reason why?
Because much of the Apocryphal books contains texts that in some way supports Catholic teachings, like prayers to the dead, doing good deads in order to pay for your sins, and using some sort of object to heal one's self.
Here's a text from one of the books 2 Macabees that confirms making prayers of reconciliation for the dead (this is what the Catholic Church might have used to confirm the doctrine of Purgatory).
2 Macabees 12: 40-45
40 Now under the coats of every one that was slain they found things consecrated to the idols of the Jamnites, which is forbidden the Jews by the law. Then every man saw that this was the cause wherefore they were slain.
41 All men therefore praising the Lord, the righteous Judge, who had opened the things that were hid,
42 Betook themselves unto prayer, and besought him that the sin committed might wholly be put out of remembrance. Besides, that noble Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves from sin, forsomuch as they saw before their eyes the things that came to pass for the sins of those that were slain.
43 And when he had made a gathering throughout the company to the sum of two thousand drachms of silver, he sent it to Jerusalem to offer a sin offering, doing therein very well and honestly, in that he was mindful of the resurrection:
44 For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should have risen again, it had been superfluous and vain to pray for the dead.
45 And also in that he perceived that there was great favour laid up for those that died godly, it was an holy and good thought. Whereupon he made a reconciliation for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin.
You and I both know that the dead don't know anything that goes on in the surface. Nor can they hear us. So prayers for them to be cleansed of sin is unfortunately useless. Once we die, our fate is sealed.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Hope this helps to understand more of these extrabiblical texts. Here's a video that explains on where these texts came from:
https://youtu.be/XxjH7CfhSX8
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So...just curious. Does the name "David Gonterman" strike a chord with any Sonic fans of this generation?
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THE SECOND BOOK OF MACHABEES. - From The Latin Vulgate Bible
Chapter 12
INTRODUCTION.
This Second Book of Machabees is not a continuation of the history contained in the First; nor does it come down so low as the First does, but relates many of the same facts more at large, and adds other remarkable particulars, omitted in the First Book, relating to the state of the Jews as well before as under the persecution of Antiochus. The author, who is not the same with that of the First Book, has given (as we learn from chap. ii. 20., &c.) a short abstract of what Jason, of Cyrene, had written in the five volumes, concerning Judas and his brethren. He wrote in Greek, and begins with two letters, sent by the Jews of Jerusalem to their brethren in Egypt. (Challoner) --- Hence the whole book has been considered by some as an epistle. (Cotelier, Can. Ap. p. 338.) --- But it is easy to distinguish the letter from the history, (Calmet) to which a preface is prefixed, chap. ii. 20. Yet the Alexandrian copy has at the end, "A letter concerning the acts of Judas Mach.[Machabeus.]" (Haydock) --- The appendix of two epistles was added to the First Book by him who wrote the second, (Worthington) abridging the work of Jason. (Haydock)
Chapter 12
The Jews are still molested by their neighbours. Judas gains divers victories over them. He orders sacrifice and prayers for the dead.
1 When *(Year of the World 3841, Year before Christ 163) these covenants were made, Lysias went to the king, and the Jews gave themselves to husbandry.
Notes & Commentary:
Ver. 1. No explanation given.
2 But they that were behind, viz. Timotheus, and Apollonius, the son of Genneus, also Hieronymus, and Demophon, and besides them Nicanor, the governor of Cyprus, would not suffer them to live in peace, and to be quiet.
Ver. 2. Timotheus and Apolloinus. Others of the same name were slain before, chap. x. 37., and 1 Machabees iii. 11. (Worthington) (Calmet)
3 The men of Joppe also were guilty of this kind of wickedness: they desired the Jews, who dwelt among them, to go with their wives and children into the boats, which they had prepared, as though they had no enmity to them.
Ver. 3. No explanation given.
4 Which when they had consented to, according to the common decree of the city, suspecting nothing, because of the peace: when they were gone forth into the deep, they drowned no fewer than two hundred of them.
Ver. 4. No explanation given.
5 But as soon as Judas heard of this cruelty done to his countrymen, he commanded the men that were with him: and after having called upon God, the just judge,
Ver. 5. No explanation given.
6 He came against those murderers of his brethren, and set the haven on fire in the night, burnt the boats, and slew with the sword them that escaped from the fire.
Ver. 6. No explanation given.
7 And when he had done these things in this manner, he departed as if he would return again, and root out all the Joppites.
Ver. 7. No explanation given.
8 But when he understood that the men of Jamnia also designed to do in like manner to the Jews that dwelt among them,
Ver. 8. Designed. The heart is the source of sin, and God thus punished the intentions of the Jamnites. (Haydock)
9 He came upon the Jamnites also by night, and set the haven on fire, with the ships, so that the light of the fire was seen at Jerusalem, two hundred and forty furlongs off.
Ver. 9. Off, or ten leagues. Jerusalem was on elevated ground. (Calmet) --- A furlong is about the eighth part of a mile, (others say the fifth, or a thousand feet) so that the fire was seen at the distance of thirty or forty-eight miles. (Worthington)
10 And when they were now gone from thence nine furlongs, and were marching towards Timotheus, five thousand footmen, and five hundred horsemen of the Arabians, set upon them.
Ver. 10. No explanation given.
11 And after a hard fight, in which, by the help of God, they got the victory, the rest of the Arabians being overcome, besought Judas for peace, promising to give him pastures, and to assist him in other things.
Ver. 11. Rest. Greek, "the Nomades," (Haydock) who dwelt in tents, and lived on plunder, (Strabo xvi.) like Ismael, Genesis xvi. 12.
12 And Judas thinking that they might be profitable indeed in many things, promised them peace, and after having joined hands, they departed to their tents.
Ver. 12. No explanation given.
13 He also laid siege to a certain strong city, encompassed with bridges and walls, and inhabited by multitudes of different nations, the name of which is Casphin.
Ver. 13. Casphin; Chasbon, or Hesebon, 1 Machabees v. 26., and Numbers xxi. 25. It was famous for its waters.
14 But they that were within it, trusting in the strength of the walls, and the provision of victuals, behaved in a more negligent manner, and provoked Judas with railing and blaspheming, and uttering such words as were not to be spoken.
Ver. 14. Spoken. The enemy generally reviled the Jews.
15 But Machabeus calling upon the great Lord of the world, who without any rams or engines of war threw down the walls of Jericho, in the time of Josue, fiercely assaulted the walls.
Ver. 15. World. Thus setting a pattern to virtuous generals.
16 And having taken the city by the will of the Lord, he made an unspeakable slaughter, so that a pool adjoining, of two furlongs broad, seemed to run with the blood of the slain.
Ver. 16. No explanation given.
17 From thence they departed seven hundred and fifty furlongs, and came to Characa, to the Jews that are called Tubianites.
Ver. 17. Characa, or Carcar, Judges viii. 10., and xi. 3. (Calmet) --- Tubianites, "religiously good;" probably the Assideans, (1 Machabees ii. 42.; Worthington) or inhabitants of Tob. (Haydock)
18 But as for Timotheus, they found him not in those places, for before he had dispatched any thing he went back, having left a very strong garrison in a certain hold:
Ver. 18. Things. The Jews had retired to Characa or Dathema, so that he ravaged the country and left garrisons, which were cut in pieces. Judas soon after with 6000 routed Timotheus, though he had 122,500 men, 1 Machabees v. 8, 27, 43.
19 But Dositheus, and Sosipater, who were captains with Machabeus, slew them that were left by Timotheus in the hold, to the number of ten thousand men.
Ver. 19. No explanation given.
20 And Machabeus having set in order about him six thousand men, and divided them by bands, went forth against Timotheus, who had with him a hundred and twenty thousand footmen, and two thousand five hundred horsemen.
Ver. 20. No explanation given.
21 Now when Timotheus had knowledge of the coming of Judas, he sent the women and children, and the other baggage, before him into a fortress, called Carnion: for it was impregnable, and hard to come at, by reason of the straitness of the places.
Ver. 21. Carnion, or Asteroth Carnaim.
22 But when the first band of Judas came in sight, the enemies were struck with fear, by the presence of God, who seeth all things, and they were put to flight one from another, so that they were often thrown down by their own companions, and wounded with the strokes of their own swords.
Ver. 22. No explanation given.
23 But Judas was pursued them close, punishing the profane, of whom he slew thirty thousand men.
Ver. 23. No explanation given.
24 And Timotheus himself fell into the hands of the band of Dositheus and Sosipater, and with many prayers he besought them to let him go with his life, because he had the parents and brethren of many of the Jews, who, by his death, might happen to be deceived.
Ver. 24. Deceived. Greek, "if they slew him, would not be regarded," (Haydock) but slain without mercy. (Calmet)
25 And when he had given his faith that he would restore them according to the agreement, they let him go without hurt, for the saving of their brethren.
Ver. 25. No explanation given.
26 Then Judas went away to Carnion, where he slew five and twenty thousand persons.
Ver. 26. Carnion. Greek adds, "and the temple of Astergata," (Haydock) the idol Astarte, or Derceto of the Philistines.
27 And *(Year of the World 3841, Year before Christ 163) after he had put to flight and destroyed these, he removed his army to Ephron, a strong city, wherein there dwelt a multitude of divers nations: and stout young men standing upon the walls, made a vigorous resistance: and in this place there were many engines of war, and a provision of darts.
Ver. 27. No explanation given.
28 But when they had invocated the Almighty, who with his power breaketh the strength of the enemies, they took the city: and slew five and twenty thousand of them that were within.
Ver. 28. No explanation given.
29 From thence they departed to Scythopolis, which lieth six hundred furlongs from Jerusalem.
Ver. 29. Scythopolis. Formerly called Bethsan, (Challoner) near the lake of Tiberias.
30 But the Jews that were among the Scythopolitans testifying that they were used kindly by them, and that even in the times of their adversity they had treated them with humanity:
Ver. 30. No explanation given.
31 They gave them thanks, exhorting them to be still friendly to their nation, and so they came to Jerusalem, the feast of the weeks being at hand.
Ver. 31. Weeks of Pentecost, celebrated seven weeks after the Passover, Leviticus xxiii. 15. (Calmet)
32 And after Pentecost they marched against Gorgias, the governor of Idumea.
Ver. 32. Gorgias, who had been twice defeated, chap. x. 14., and 1 Machabees iv. 1. (Worthington) --- Idumea. Grotius would read Jamnia. But he might govern the southern parts of Juda, (Calmet) then occupied by the Idumeans. (Haydock)
33 And he came out with three thousand footmen, and four hundred horsemen.
Ver. 33. No explanation given.
34 And when they had joined battle, it happened that a few of the Jews were slain.
Ver. 34. No explanation given.
35 But Dositheus, a horseman, one of Bacenor's band, a valiant man, took hold of Gorgias: and when he would have taken him alive, a certain horseman of the Thracians came upon him, and cut off his shoulder: and so Gorgias escaped to Maresa.
Ver. 35. Maresa. Syriac, "Samaria," as the Vulgate has, 1 Machabees v. 66.
36 But when they that were with Esdrin had fought long, and were weary, Judas called upon the Lord to be their helper, and leader of the battle:
Ver. 36. No explanation given.
37 Then beginning in his own language, and singing hymns with a loud voice, he put Gorgias's soldiers to flight.
Ver. 37. No explanation given.
38 So Judas having gathered together his army, came into the city Odollam: and when the seventh day came, they purified themselves according to the custom, and kept the sabbath in the same place.
Ver. 38. Place. Probably without the walls, Numbers xix. 2, 17., and xxxi. 19.
39 And the day following Judas came with his company, to take away the bodies of them that were slain, and to bury them with their kinsmen, in the sepulchres of their fathers.
Ver. 39. Following, on Saturday evening, or on Sunday. --- Fathers, with those of the same nation.
40 And they found under the coats of the slain, some of the donaries of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbiddeth to the Jews: so that all plainly saw, that for this cause they were slain.
Ver. 40. Of the donaries, &c. That is, of the votive offerings, which had been hung up in the temples of the idols, which they had taken away when they burnt the port of Jamnia, (ver. 9.) contrary to the prohibition of the law, Deuteronomy vii. 25. (Challoner) --- All such things should have been destroyed, (Josue vii., and 1 Kings xv.; Worthington) or melted down. Perhaps the soldiers intended to bring them to Judas. He excused them charitably, and hoped that their temporal chastisement might have served to expiate their fault.
41 Then they all blessed the just judgment of the Lord, who had discovered the things that were hidden.
Ver. 41. No explanation given.
42 And so betaking themselves to prayers, they besought him, that the sin which had been committed might be forgotten. But the most valiant Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves from sin, forasmuch as they saw before their eyes what had happened, because of the sins of those that were slain.
Ver. 42. Forgotten. Syriac, "imperfect." Greek, "effaced." (Calmet) --- Some copies, "that they might not, on account of the sin committed, be entirely blotted out." (Aldus; Usher) --- They were convinced that some sins might be forgiven in the other world, particularly when the living interceded. (Calmet) --- The Jews began to pray for the dead after the captivity, (Grotius) when the prophets had more clearly explained what took place after death. (Calmet) --- Yet the doctrine and practice might still be as ancient as the world. (Haydock) --- If it had not prevailed before, Judas would never have entertained such sentiments. (Worthington) --- The Jews admit a sort of purgatory for "the prevaricators of Israel," which differs from hell only in duration. They assert that the damned of their nation are exempt from suffering on the sabbath. (Bartolocci; Leo v. 10.; Tirinus; Estius) --- Some Christians have supposed that the sin here specified was mortal, and the deceased in hell, yet prayer might be of service to them. Origen (Prin. iii. 6.) thought that even the devils would one day be liberated. St. Augustine (Ench. cx. 29.) says prayers "are of service, either that the remission may be entire, or surely that damnation itself may be more tolerable." Most understand this of purgatory: but several explain it of the damned. (Rrot. Bened.) --- A mass was formerly composed for this purpose, tolerabilia fiant ipsa tormenta: and some monks prayed for certain robbers slain, "that their pains might be diminished by the severe judge." (Aldrev. xxi) Excommunication might be taken off from the deceased. (St. Gregory, Dial. ii. 29.) --- Purgatory is for venial sins. (Ibid.[St. Gregory, Dial.] iv. 39.) This doctrine is proved beyond reply by various controvertists. (Calmet)
43 And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection.
Ver. 43. Twelve. Greek, "two." Syriac, "three." St. Prosper. reads "12,000 talents." Sacrifices for the dead were not enjoined, but the practice was then established, and this author takes every opportunity of proving the resurrection against the Sadducees, who then began to appear. The Church of Christ has adopted the same practice. See Bellarmine, Serarius, &c. Our adversaries confess that such was the opinion of the Jews, and of the ancient doctors of the Church. But they declare it superstitious, and deny the authority of these books, which has been sufficiently established. Could such holy personages authorize superstition? Would Christ and his apostles have tolerated it? St. Paul prayed for Onesiphorus after his decease, 2 Timothy i. 16. See Matthew xii. 33., and Luke xvi. 9., and 1 Corinthians iii. 13., and xv. 29.; Eusebius, Life of Constantine iv.; St. Epiphanius, hær. lxxv.; St. Cyprian i. ep. 9.; Tertullian, &c. (Calmet)
44 (For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should rise again, it would have seemed superfluous and vain to pray for the dead)
Ver. 44. No explanation given.
45 And because he considered that they who had fallen asleep with godliness, had great grace laid up for them.
Ver. 45. With godliness. Judas hoped that these men who died fighting for the cause of God and religion, might find mercy; either because they might be excused from mortal sin by ignorance, or might have repented of their sin at least at their death. (Challoner) --- Charity requires us to judge thus, when there are no positive proofs to the contrary. (Calmet) --- Pope John VIII answered the bishops of France, that those who died fighting against infidels were saved. (Mabil. T. iii. An. Ben.) --- Judas might entertain the like hopes, though they are not always well grounded. (Haydock)
46 It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.
Ver. 46. Holy. This text is so clear, that our adversaries judge it best to deny the book to be canonical. As that has been authentically proved, (Preface) we shall only add that the Greek version, though differing in many points, is here as express as the Vulgate, (Worthington) 45. "considering that the best grace is laid up for those who sleep in piety. Holy and pious is the thought. (Haydock) Wherefore he made reconciliation (or expiation) for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin," or punishment due to it. (Worthington) --- Sin is often taken for the punishment; and this effect of mortal sin may be remitted in purgatory, when the person has sincerely repented in this life. (Haydock) --- To pass over other proofs, we will only mention St. Augustine (hær. liii.) and St. Bernard, (Cant. lxvi.) who plainly account those "heretics," who deny purgatory. It is also worthy of notice that Judas, who acted thus charitably, was the high priest and defender of the true faith; and that the Jews still pray for the dead, as the book Mahzor, published by Genebrard, 1569, evinces. There they say, "Let him rest in peace," and "ye angels of peace come forth to meet him." But this is acknowledged by Munster and Fagius, (in Deuteronomy xiv.) and by Whitaker. --- Sins. Go to 1 Machabees vi. 18. (Worthington)
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Great Lineup this week. #karaoke Wed. Thursday #JamNite Friday Casey Stone Band. Sat - the Rum Runners with Switch. #livemusic #seeyqr #cheersTo15Years (at McNally's Tavern)
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