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#jimin's enneagram: w3
bts-mbti · 2 years
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Oh! What do you mean about Jimin falling back on masculinity (not sounding accusatory or anything!) he always seemed flexible to me after accepting himself u know with what the heck is men, hurry up and be me someday, and esp w filter, he just seems to embody both masculine and feminine energy to me really well which is partly why he’s one of my favorites
i spent some time trying to figure out how to point this out, but it's honestly pretty simple. jimin's still not actually comfortable with his femininity because his femininity is conditional on his masculinity to be allowed to exist.
jimin has taken ownership of his femininity, which is far (Far) above where he began his internalized misogyny journey. and none of this is to discredit his growth & the fact that he is still the most challenging to gender norms in the group and that i love him to fucking bits for it. but true self-acceptance is unconditional, which is difficult for type 2s and 3s, especially when they wing each other. 2's nature is to be in conflict with what it wants, 3's is to be oblivious to what it wants, and they both turn to other people/the world to find it. the combination, particularly on a sx/so type like jimin, is a pretty intense lack of stable self-worth, which intersects in a nasty way to his r/s with gender.
without elaborating too much on gender politics, jimin searching for what the world rewards (w3) to be loved (2-core) leads him to cisheteronormative gender roles that i remain unconvinced he naturally falls into or wants to participate in, and just desires because he's internalized gender as intrinsic to his worth as a person.
a person is more than their gender or gender expression. jimin has yet to internalize this, even tho he’s internalized that it’s okay for him to be feminine in some ways (and does not look at other people this way). i’d describe it as him having one foot in the water of deconstructing his r/s with gender, but he isn’t willing to go further yet (or maybe doesn’t realize there’s further to go). probably bc there’s something he’s avoiding in the deep end.
but when i said he falls back onto masculinity, i meant exactly that. when jimin's unhappy or going through a hard time he craves masculinity. it doesn't always translate to his exterior, but it always shows up in his behavior (classic 2 -> 8 disintegration, in a gendered hat). this is stereotypical low Si behavior as well--desiring what's familiar in the face of committed change even if (especially if) it's not healthy.
it's funny bc i wrote this after i’d just seen his weverse magazine photo where he's posing shirtless all sexy-man-like, and he's quoted literally saying "i want to be better, and cooler". cool is a gendered term for jimin, and korea as a whole as i understand it. i don't think him using better and cool together is a coincidence, nor is it that this is coming up as he faces doing solo work (which he's clearly insecure abt) & their emotional break.
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bts-mbti · 2 years
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Also sorry do you mind explaining Jimin’s the unhealthiest! Idk why that just sounds sad lmao especially because I feel like I relate to him? I know he’s deals with insecurity and his apologetic nature but then has bouts of confidence, idk just sounds sad sorry :( !
bouts of confidence doesn’t necessarily mean someone’s overcome insecurity. insecurity as embedded into a person as it is in jimin is usually a lifelong uphill battle. it’s sad if you want to think of it that way, but i just see it as his reality. we all have demons, and he’s surrounded by ppl who love & support him.
in his case, i would say he’s been steadily improving since debut, so while he’s come a long way he’s still not exactly healthy, but it can seem that way. he’s certainly happy & i don’t think a therapist would find him any more work than anyone else, but you can see his battle w insecurity play out in his typology pretty damn clearly.
wrt enneagram, as i mentioned, 2s & 3s struggle the most with self-worth and stable identity of the enneatypes. but 3, esp 3w4, has a propensity for self-assurance not afforded to 2 bc 3 is motivated by validation, which can be impersonal. 2 is motivated by wanting to have their needs met through love (or what they perceive as love).
sx/so 2w3s are particularly prone to insecurity bc they're sp-blind (don't pay attention to taking care of themselves), sx heart types often want to be as desirable to others as possible, 2s' self-worth inherently relates to other ppl, and they lack the sense of order & personal direction a w1 can provide. and 3 is pretty vulnerable to insecurity in and of itself.
as if that’s not enough, jimin’s tritype, 216, has triple super ego. which essentially means that all the enneatypes he accesses characteristically struggle with feeling inadequate/lacking as they are.
which leads us to his cognitive functions. his environment (Society^TM) rewarded Te and Si (his lower functions) more than Ne and Fi (his upper functions). he’s also gotten very in touch with his Si for dancing. so his lower functions are overdeveloped, and he sees them as better, which leads to overreliance on them (this is why he comes across like an exxj or estj). but he’s not actually very good with his lower functions, even if he’s very good for his type, which can leave him more frustrated & unhappy with himself or just...generally miserable & exhausted.
this is what i mean when i say he’s the unhealthiest. he misuses his functions & struggles against his enneatype the most + the nature of his enneatype itself exacerbates it. “type health” doesn’t refer to someone’s general happiness, it’s about how you use the different components of your types. it just usually overlaps with overall mental/behavioral health.
also, the fact that he does this all the most (and struggles with it more intensely than average) doesn’t mean this is all there is to him or that he’s the only one. namjoon has a similar relationship with self-worth. jin also tends to overrely on his lower functions. and don’t get me started on tae’s sx/sp 7 ass lmfao
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