#juncheol

[wonhuihonwuiii]

jun and cheol pairing (juncheol)

I've STILL been seeing ppl talk bad about jun's relationship with the members so here's a quick analysis to show his dynamic with each, starting off with juncheol!

I feel like the first thought would be: are they even aware of each other’s existence? HAHA 

BUT then again, as the leader, Cheol does such a wonderful job of maintaining a close relationship with ALL members.

I think Cheol sees Jun as a younger brother whom he guides every once in a while but is generally independent (does this make sense)

In interviews for example, Cheol pays extra attention to Jun’s screen time by stopping members from talking every time Jun attempts to speak. He literally goes “shhh mode” to everyone to make sure that the attention is on Jun.

There is this particular clip of them that I absolutely love! I think it was Jun talking about his struggles as a foreigner and how he eventually saw a silver lining overtime. Then beside him, there was Cheol with the PROUDEST SMILE EVER. It’s just so touching to know that Cheol must be aware of what Jun had to endure and how much he has grown over the past couple of years. I feel like he makes his presence known for Jun through the little things because they both prefer keeping it that way. They’re close enough to be considered friends but then again, it is known to us that they aren’t each other’s first choice because we have jeonghan, joshua, mingyu for cheol and minghao, wonwoo, and joshua for jun and it’s completely NORMAL to have closer friends especially in a bigger group like Seventeen. 

I think instead, Jun respects Cheol A LOT as their leader. With that certain level of respect, you’d expect them to be a bit distant with each other but no! At the end of the day, they DO have interactions every once in a while and I’d say that while it’s lowkey, you never feel any tension or awkwardness. It’s just straight up WHOLESOME.

For example, there’s this clip of them wrestling and giggling in one of their GOSE episodes. It was funny because they weren’t even sure if they had any cameras on them, showing how natural the interaction was. Then in BETS Manila Day 1 and 2, they both gave each other piggyback rides during aju nice. Again, it doesn’t seem forced at all and kind of like a “spur of the moment” kind of interaction.

On the other hand, I also noticed that sometimes, Cheol does something silly and Jun just kinda lets him. I feel like in most cases, Jun would AT LEAST slap back but he tolerates it more if it’s their leader. (Insert clip of Cheol pouring water on Jun’s head and instead of seeking revenge, he just turns to the camera with a smile) 

Aside from their playful side, I also recently saw a clip of Jun comforting Cheol during caratland 2023 and the former also helping Cheol down the stairs as he was limping during follow again to Incheon. I don’t know about you but i love seeing the members take care of cheol for a change because it shows how their dynamic truly is. Just because Cheol is the oldest and their leader, doesn’t mean no one should look out for him. I just admire Jun’s subtle caring side regardless of how playful he is.

The last thing I’d like to mention would be the skinship between the two of them. Cheol is naturally clingy to the members so obviously Jun is no exception! It’s just super cute when they hug or when Cheol rests his hands on Jun’s legs. This is mostly because they seem like such an unlikely pair to engage in skinship but they do! Similar to most of their interactions, it also comes so naturally that Jun just lets Cheol because there are times that the former would restrain any form of physical contact with the members. (NOTE: compilation videos of Cheol grabbing Jun’s waist during world is my ABSOLUTE WEAKNESS)

Overall, I love their soft chaotic energy!

[junhoontrash]

Have you had your daily dose of JunCheol?

[blanqao3]

So for two years now (I'm a slow writing clown) I've been making this thing that had my friend go "look they did jun and joshua from your fics"

And anyway it's about sad witches and ancient curses and resurrection, old magic and plants and cozy houses and the people living there who love each other despite the grief

There's also lighthouses and strange islands and shapeshifters and lots of food cause you can't exorcise shit on an empty belly

It's a bit sad and a lot soft and I hope it brings some sort of comfort

Links under the cut!

Part one (2 chapters, Joshua/Jeonghan)

Part two (3 chapters, Minghao/Wonwoo)

Part three (3 chapters, Vernon/Dino)

Part four (7 chapters, Woozi/Mingyu)

Part five (ongoing, Seungcheol/Junhui)

[xwedayi]

SVT SCOUPS and Jun Tarot

DISCLAIMER:

These are interpersonal tarot readings of seventeen members FOR FUN. These are literally just for me and I don’t expect anyone to take this seriously. Also, I don’t know everything about tarot but I know enough. These are my interpretations of the readings.

I also do these readings to practice so take them with a grain of salt. This is my hobby so if u disagree with me just know I really dgaf.

Deck: The Dreamkeepers Tarot Deck by Liz Huston

Reading done on both 12/06/22 and 3/07/23

Warning: Long post!!!!! I poured everything from my brain into both readings.

12/06/22

Overall Relationship:

rev. Ten of Pentacles

rev. Empress as elaboration card

✩ They have quite a complicated relationship. I'm getting the feeling they do not see eye to eye on a lot of things. Their relationship with each other is quite insecure (rev 10oP) that must have resulted from an unhealthy codependence (rev Empress). They've gotten to a point where things are not working out between them no matter the situation.

Jun in Scoup's eyes:

rev. Emperor

✩ Scoups sees Jun as someone who is immature. He has everything he needs to take full responsibility (of what...? I'm not sure. maybe his life? I could see SC being upset that Jun is not living his life to its fullest potential).

Scoups in Jun's eyes:

Death

rev Wheel of Fortune and rev King of Pentacles as collaborating cards

✩ Jun is or has witnessed Scoups go through a big transition (Death) and it has impacted the way he views Scoups. I think his constant stream of bad luck (rev WoF -- when you think negatively, negativity find you) forced Scoups to confront what has been setting him off and he needed to make some big changes. He needed to confront his fear of failure (rev KoP) and how he was always playing it safe.

ANOTHER DRAW (The energy felt off an I just needed to confirm)

Justice

Four of Cups as elaboration

✩ Jun had to see/feels that Scoups needs to answer the universe. "Universe" here can mean to himself, the people around him, his environment, his world, everything that makes up Scoups's universe. 4oC tells me that Scoups might've had an apathetic attitude (a type of apathy that comes from constantly having to face hardships) that caused problems. He needs/needed to understand that his behaviour directly affected his members and everything around him (the Universe). I think his behaviour affected Jun in particular.

✮ NOTES:

✮ My second draw for Jun's POV of Scoups was basically the same as the first draw just expressed with different cards. Jun understands that Scoups needs/needed to answer for his behaviour and that affected the way Jun saw Scoups. It seems to be related to Scoups's habit of being really hard on himself and that materializing as a form of apathy on the outside. ✮ Very strong, male personalities. We have the Emperor and King of Pentacles. We also have very authoritative figures like Justice and Death. It seems their relationship is really strained right now. ✮ The co-dependency part is interesting. Who relied on who more? The cards have a really familiar feeling to them. The problems between them only happened because they know each other so well and they know what the other needs to do to overcome their faults. It's just that their masculine stubbornness gets in the way LOL. ✮ This whole reading felt like observing a severed bond from two people that had a sincere and special connection.

3/07/23

Overall Relationship:

rev. Hanged Man

Three of Swords as elaboration

✩ Someone in the relationship felt they were giving everything and received nothing back (rev. Hanged Man). Despite the issue being brought up many times, there was an inability to change their behaviour (rev. Hanged Man). This lead to a break up (3oS). The person who broke off the relationship most likely felt hurt, betrayed, and really lonely.

Did SC cause the grief?

rev. Knight of Swords

yes

✩ rev KnoS often represents a person who intentionally causes turmoil to others. I think the reason why SC embodied rev KnoS was due to how he saw himself.

How does SC feel now after everything:

rev Nine of Swords

rev Knight of Swords (i'm interpreting this as representing SC himself) and rev Nine of Pentalces as elaboration cards

✩ He is trying to let go of all the negativity left behind (rev 9oS) though he feels intense guilt for what happened (rev 9oS). He felt insecure of himself in the relationship (rev 9oP), which caused him to embody rev KnoS (I'm still iffy about this part of the interpretation). He is trying to come to terms with his self-worth and is trying to improve himself (rev 9oP). He is realizing he has everything needed to become a better person and ask for more.

How does Jun feel after everything?

rev Ace of Cups

The Lovers as elaboration

✩ I think Jun feels very tired. The loss of love in the relationship is making him reflect on his actions and also making himself closed off to everything (rev. AoC). It seems like he's repressing his emotions. Although I do feel like he wants things to work out in the future. Through his self-reflection, Jun may be finding that he is willing to let SC back in again to work on their relationship (Lovers). He really wants to be with SC again but is blocking those feelings off to protect himself.

(everything beyond this point is just completely self-indulgent. Chismosavirus got me bad.)

What was SC like in the relationship?

Empress

Magician

rev. Ten of Pentacles.

✩ Seems like SC's leadership tendencies shined in their friendship. He was nurturing (Empress) and constantly output energy (Magician) that motivated both of them to accomplish their goals. However, he was quite rash and unstable at times (rev 10oP) which greatly confused Jun

And what was Jun like?

Six of Cups

rev. Nine of Swords

rev. Eight of Swords

✩ Jun was very childlike -- not the annoying type but childlike in the sense that he was innocent and naive (6oC) in the relationship. And also very pure. But, rev. 8oS suggests that he feels he was exiting a period of oppression and is gaining a new perspective on things (probably after the breakup). rev. 9oS suggests he was often affected by SC's deteriorating mental health and it weighed him down heavily. He constantly had that positive and childlike outlook on life despite everything.

✮ NOTES

✮ Well. ✮ LOTS OF CUPS AND SWORDS. A crazzzyyyy amount of (mostly) Air and Water energy, Things were all over the place. Emotions EVERYWHERE. I know Jun was stressed as hell LMAOOOO ✮ THE NUMBER NINE constantly showed up. Nine symbolizes completion of a cycle. This further proves that they really broke up omfg.... It also means going right back to the beginning! The whole point of ending a cycle is to start anew. There is hope if they want to start again. And I'm getting the feeling they already have started. ✮ Jesus fucking Christ their relationship is so complex. ✮ Everything about this reading corresponds with my previous reading. Except! I got the feeling Jun was causing most of the problems back then. Now, I think I felt hostile energy from Jun because he was most likely standing up for himself and the relationship. He was just defending himself. Everything else is the same. I love tarot I really do.

[parkhongreal]

LOOKISM 429

DAMN DG

oh.. gun..

NAHH how would eugene react if he finds out that the dude calling him is doing THAT.

probably him after he found out about juncheol yang stratching

IS YHAT JIHOS DETECTIVE OR WHOEVER

big deal 🙁

huh.. i thought daniel was arrested..?

[frances-and-the-moon]

What are we calling the ship from The Worst of Evil? Juncheol? Ginmoo? Seunghcheol?

?????

[sluttyminghao]

majority vote for juncheol threesome! stay tuned for it to be up (hopefully) soon!

[withjunhui]

juncheol 🐰🐱

[chogibin]

[tswoondere]

happy juncheol (ノ^∇^) #Clap2ndWin

[junhuui]

svts honey dripping eyes when they look at jun is the biggest mood yet

[wonhuihonwuiii]

jun + jeonghan pairing (junhan)

As mentioned in my juncheol analysis, I've STILL been seeing ppl talk bad about jun's relationship with the members so here's a quick analysis to show his dynamic with each, specifically junhan!

I feel like this pairing isn’t a rare sight to see because they actually often sit close to one another (whether intentional or not) so interactions are kinda inevitable.

BUT even so, I feel like this isn’t a popular ship because most of their interactions (similar to nearly all jun pairings) are very lowkey.

Ok so now to start, I feel the need to point out that while Jeonghan is one of the members close to EVERYONE, there’s still something so refreshing about this duo. It isn’t as chaotic as the typical seventeen pairing you’d probably expect but instead, they’re both very soft for each other!

For example, Jeonghan is SO supportive of Jun, hyping him up every chance he gets. (Insert clips of jh saying “baksu” everytime jun says or does literally ANYTHING HUHU cuties) 

Jeonghan is also naturally clingy but I still find it so adorable when he clings onto Jun. (It’s usually jh grabbing jun’s arm or leaning on his shoulders) Mostly because I feel like Jun tends to get awkward with physical touch NOT initiated by him so the fact that he lets Jeonghan be that clingy is so cute. It also seems like he doesn’t mind, showing how it’s a natural and regular occurrence.

Observing their other interactions, I also noticed how Jun would often go to Jeonghan when he’s curious about something. You would always catch them whispering whether in the background of some gose episodes or even in random concert clips. The fact that this is a recurring thing means that he trusts Jeonghan enough to respond well to whatever he has to say.

Jun also seems like the type to hesitate to ask for favors so when he asked Jeonghan to buy him a blanket in one of their content (either gose or in the soop sorry I don't remember) I WENT SOFT ON MY KNEES! It was just so nice seeing Jun ask Jeonghan with a soft voice and the latter responding the same way!

NOTE: I think it’s undeniable that Jeonghan is naturally reliable but I find it so wholesome when more quiet members like Jun express their gratitude because of how caring Jeonghan is. I find it so touching how Jun takes note of the little things and Jeonghan gets appreciated for being the members’ emotional support system.

In relation to this, the last point I’d like to make is when Jeonghan acts like a younger brother to Jun! This is particularly important to me because as we all know, Jun was like Seventeen’s “mother” before Jeonghan came so it’s nice to see Jun take care of the former for a change! Here are specific moments:

Do you remember that vlive where Jeonghan shared a story about jokingly (?) asking Jun to buy him a lego set? Jh wasn’t really expecting anything since it was a bit expensive, but Jun still bought it for him the next day because his hyung wanted it.

There’s also a part in the dingo drinking video where Jun reminded Jeonghan to slow down/calm down a bit because his arm injury wasn’t fully healed at the time.

Jeonghan also shared that Jun would NOT move an inch if you lay on his lap no matter how uncomfortable he may feel.

Idk about you but these give such big brother energy AND I LIVE FOR IT!

Overall, I love how even though they’re both known as the pranksters of svt, their relationship is actually very soft and they get along really well!

[junhoontrash]

SVT’s wreath messages to Jun-

S.Coups: May all the happiness and luck go to you (trans cr. simplyscoups)

Jeonghan: Actor Moon, shoot it well and come back~ Hanniehae 😍 (trans cr. miss_svtmafia)

Joshua: Moon Junhui, congratulations! I believe you’ll do well, let’s eat together soon, my brother (trans cr. miss_svtmafia)

Hoshi: I will look forward to the kiss scene 💕 (trans cr. tinkswonu)

Wonwoo: Jun-ah, congratulations on your first lead role! See you in Korea (trans cr. fyeahwonhui)

Woozi: Moong Joonghi wooawooawooawooahae~

The8: [in Chinese] The world’s no.1 handsome guy, Wen Junhui Good luck to the new show’s booting ceremony!

Mingyu: Moon Junhui acting, what to do, what to do (T/N: Reference to Oh My! but instead of the Korean lyrics he used Korean spelling on the Chinese lyrics)

DK: Moon Junhui! May your acting bring happiness to lots of people (trans cr. dkzones)

Seungkwan: Moong Joonghwi, I miss you, I love you (trans cr. tinkswonu)

Vernon: [in Chinese] Scrambled egg with tomatoes

Dino: [in Chinese] Jun-ge please be cute a lot Real handsome guy (T/N: ge = hyung; the grammar’s a little awkward which has been replicated in this translation, it’s possible that he meant to say “Please give Jun-ge lots of love” or something along those lines in the first sentence)

[fangirlingtrashbin]

I love pledis this time, they give my thirsty shipper heart vitamin, thank you pledis<3

btw I love underrated ship too, I can’t be loyal when it comes to shipping :p

[xwedayi]

I don’t know if you take requests but I really love your readings on their dynamic the juncheol reading really opened my eyes and realised we never really see them interact with eo..

I wanted to know your opinion on hoshi and scoups dynamic🤔

hello!!! Thank u so much :) I'm glad u enjoyed my reading of them :).

I did a reading on hoshi and scoups on 12/06/22 (if you noticed, all my readings were done on that day. i went crazy LOL) and i just posted it now.

I tried doing an updated reading for them per your request but for some reason, I couldn't. I think one of their spirit guides (my money's on Hoshi) is blocking my every attempt at accessing his energy. I'm really sorry! It's very hard for me to accurately read whatever's going on between them and I don't want to give out false information. Thanks again.

[were1993fanfics]

13 Days of Jun 

Jun 7th - Juncheol:  https://archiveofourown.org/works/14869106/chapters/34427855