#leslie being a fandom grandma again

[nerdysleepybunny]

ok ok here is another one of my tpn angsts i would like a request. sorry if this is too long. This can be headcanons or short/long story. whichever you prefer. y/n is gn!reader btw. :3

-y/n has been a sister ever since isabella became a mama. They both raised the gracefield children. They are both like parents to the kids.

-y/n has always been inlove with isabella ever since they were a child even though she is inlove with leslie.

-y/n is inlove with isabella and also loves the kids. Y/n helps the kids escaped. Before that y/n even helped ray with his plan and comforted him when he is burdened by the harsh truth.

-y/n is fine with being one-sided even if it so painful to them and is ok being shipped out by isabella for her own safety. However, Isabella doesn't have the heart to send y/n to their death. She just couldn't do it.

"Go ahead... shipped me out.... I'm fine with you throwing my life away to guarantee your own safety. I even expected this to happen. After all, I'm a cattle child too." y/n calmy spoke before turning their back on her to leave her office after isabella confront them about their suspicious behavior.

So, she just broke y/n's leg (like emma), knocked them out and locked them in the room (like ray) to stop them temporarily.

-even after the harsh treatment by isabella and norman's shipment, that didn't stop y/n from helping their beloved children.

-fast forward after the house burnt down y/n stood on top of the wall with the kids to help them get across. They all didn't have time to cry, say goodbye or give y/n a last hug. By the time they all got across, they all waved goodbye at y/n and silently cry while running away.

-isabella arrived while heavily breathing signifying that she ran full speed just to get there. y/n chuckled at her while untying the ropes and throwing it away to time the children more time to run.

-They both stare at the distance and say what they both wanna say. They are ganna die soon so might as well make the most of it.

- y/n is inlove with isabella but is in so much denial when isabella confessed that she also has feelings for them. Y/n knows how much she loved leslie and thinks they are just a replacement for him. Y/n just couldn't accept it.

-little did y/n know isabella did move on. she just couldn't really show it because of the life and death situation they were all in. The situation robbed her to the opportunity to raise a family with y/n. To love these children normally especially ray. To love y/n normally. She yearns for it so much it hurts.

- they both argued back and forth about it while walking back to the youngest children. With tears in their eyes, they both had to stop screaming at each other before they scare the kids and more heartaches.

-without isabella knowing, y/n takes the blame so that she can live. Y/n never stopped loving her even it kills them and despite the harsh treatment they were given by her. This leaves isabella with more pain, guilt and more reasons to betray peter ratri.

lemme know your thoughts or what you want to add. (wouldn't be more angst if isaballa saw y/n's dead body in the container where conny's corpse was once in after she was promoted as grandma?) idk. again, sorry for the long rambling.

DUDE THIS IS SO PERFECT- I DON’T EVEN HAVE TO ADD ANYTHING. 😭 I love your mind so much holy shit. I’ll just add the last part and leave the rest of the writing to you! Don’t apologize for rambling, I love seeing your ideas! And thank you so much for the request.

🩷☁️N E R D Y S L E E P Y B U N N Y☁️🩷

Fandom: The Promised Neverland

Character(s): Isabella

Reader: Gender neutral

TW: Angst, death

Style: Super short hcs

“Grandma Isabella?” “…One moment, please.”

Isabella stopped in her tracks, walking towards the large glowing tube your body was stuffed into. She put her hand on the glass, staring into your lifeless face.

She thought of all the memories, of everything you’ve done for her and all that you were. You were a beautiful person inside and out, always fighting for what’s right. She absolutely adored you.

The whole reason you became a Sister was to protect all the children you could, after all. Isabella couldn’t see it at first, but now she knows why. Her beautiful children needed her. And she’d help them no matter what, with the help of you.

Leaning her forehead onto the glass, she whispered her final goodbyes, before continuing on her way. She built up a plan, now focusing all her power into protecting her beloved children.

🩷☁️N E R D Y S L E E P Y B U N N Y☁️🩷

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[bookofmirth]

Hi

I'm not up to date with all the drama in this fandom bc i tend to scroll past it. But being a reader of the books before I landed in these fandoms, I'm utterly shocked about how people treat eachother.

I'm very neutral on this stupid ship war going on. I tend to fall more for Elriel. But I understand everyone's opinion. I used to read all the book analysis, but now it just seems so exhausting. I get that people love books and ship different people. That's normal, everyone has different taste etc i'm just here trying to understand why we need to bring other human beings down in order to push our own narrative.

Since when is it okay to do that???? Can't we have a normal conversation without sending death treats?

I normally don't really respond to anything that involves drama. But these last couples of months have gotten me to dislike the books more and more solely because of these, may I call them blandly, horrible people.

And i'm very sad to have to admit that i'm also getting sick of the art of the multiple ships. Which that's horrible because I love what all these amazing artists create. But the hate they receive and the comments just make me hate it all more,this whole fandom with all these toxic people ruining it for me personally.

Can't we all just agree that we like these books, and respect eachother as human beings, no matter what everyone else thinks? And maybe wait and see what the author writes? In the end it are still her books and she will have the final say in everything.

I wish SJM would release the next book sooner so all this hate would stop, then again i don't know if it will stop. They will likely continue and probably bother SJM too...

Thank you for listening to me ranting, you always seem very nice to people with different opinions, so I thought i might as well rant a bit too.

Have a lovely day!!

Hello! Thank you for this message! I think it's really helpful for people to see because they can see the impact of the things they are doing and saying in the fandom. There are a lot of people who feel comfortable being vocal in the fandom, but I gotta say, if I were just joining now, I'm not sure that would be me. I wonder how many people walk in, take a look around, and walk the fuck back out. I probably would.

I got on my soap box a little bit because I was thinking about some of the things you've said!

I was just talking with some friends, some of whom I've been in the fandom with since 2017, some who are newer. And we all 1000% agree with you. It's so, so frustrating that the fandom has gotten so nasty to the point where we've become so separated from each other that we can't have a single civil conversation. Where people of color don't feel safe, and where a lot of the fandom doesn't even seem to care about that.

When I first joined the fandom, there were definitely people who shipped one way and people who shipped another, but we were still able to have conversations with each other. There would be these really, really long posts that were chains of people commenting on posts and reblogging, then someone adding on their thoughts, then op would respond, etc. Yeah, the posts were super long to scroll through, but there was so much engagement, ya know? And it was genuine, too. We could disagree or say "hey OP I like this point, but have you thought of X?" And it was great! (I even have a tag for it, #long post tag, because I once got an anon who was annoyed at how long my conversations with people would be 💀so I made that tag for people who wanted to block those posts.)

I'm not going to pretend it was perfect - there were definitely people I didn't get along with. But that wasn't a fandom thing, that was just a personality thing. And I never in a million years expected those people to fly off the handle and start attacking me anon, or to ss my posts to make fun of elsewhere. Now, that's a constant fear hanging over everyone's heads.

It has created an extreme echo chamber. I would genuinely like having those old fandom discussions where people would comment - in the open, on reblogs - and then we could all engage in that discussion in public. Now, all of that discussion happens in private, in groupchats and Discord. And don't get me wrong, Discord is super fun. But it also means that 1) people who aren't in those groups have no idea wtf is going on when we vague, although I try not to do that anyway, and 2) when people are in those groups they egg each other on to be worse and worse. Worse than they would have been if they were on their own and didn't feel like they had a group of people there to support their asshole behavior. tbh, I have to check myself sometimes and think, "would I do this if I hadn't just gotten into a rant conversation with friends on Discord?"

And what you said about fan art, it's so frustrating!!! Since when did fan art become a battle ground??? Since when did the appearance of fan art = a win for one ship or the other?? Why can't the comments of those arts ever just be nice and appreciative of the work someone has put into it? Honestly, it makes me paranoid to write fanfic, too! I mean, is that next???

I totally agree with you that we should be able to respect each other as people. We used to be able to do that. I hate to admit it, but I have so many people blocked now because I just don't trust them. I don't trust them to be civil, I don't trust them to be able to see my posts, I don't trust them to even read what I've written without misconstruing everything I've said.

I'm not sure if people realize that there is a big difference between this:

I don't like X ship

And this:

People who like X ship are delusional

The first one is okay! It's normal! Like you said, we all have feelings and interpretations and stuff we would prefer to see or not see!

The second one, not okay! Stop insulting people, people!!!!

The idea of engaging in a normal, healthy debate with a huge portion of the fandom is such a foreign concept to me at this point, and it never used to be. There could be a lot of reasons for this. And I always try to avoid pointing fingers because I know that not everyone is like that, though I'm sure I have slipped into that from time to time.

I think it would help if we stop seeing each other as a gwynriel or an elucien or an elriel, and start seeing each other as individuals. When acosf first came out, I started noticing a trend where people would send me asks and write them as if they were writing to every single person who ships elucien, or as if they were writing to every single person who holds a certain opinion about Azriel. It was really confusing at first, and I'm gonna request that the fandom stop doing that altogether, to everyone. If you want to engage with someone, engage with that person, not your idea of who they are and what they think.

I'm down for conversations where we talk about the series and what might come next as possibilities, because that's all this is, so far. Anyone who says that "X thing will never happen" is making some bold claims, and it's really off-putting to people who know that that's not why we are here. It's not a contest where we "win" canon. It's fandom, where we talk about what we like and what we don't like and what we want and cross our fingers and hope.

EDIT I wanted to add on one thing - a lot of this behavior is incredibly shocking and disgusting and I think that we, as a fandom, need to be better at 1) calling it out, and 2) not assuming that whoever did X horrible thing represents all people from that corner of the fandom.

I hope that you have a lovely day as well! And that the fandom doesn't get you too down. @heleencollier

[thenonbinarydetective]

Talking about the Old Books

Let’s talk about the old books for a second. I know everyone’s tired of me talking about them, but this is important. It’s about the racism that’s there.

Yes these were edited for racism back around the Civil Rights Movement. Basically to show there support, from what I’ve read most of it seemed to be more Mildred Wirt Benson’s and Leslie McFarlane’s doing and I’m guessing any of the younger people who worked there. I only say that because a lot of Harriet’s behavior (as she was the one who was possibly doing the worst with this) was described kinda like Grandma racism, if you know what I mean? When you’re grandma says something racist that probably wasn’t considered racist when she was younger. That sort of thing. Although her thing was calling (even innocent characters), such things as “Nefarious coloreds” or Nancy rejecting someone who was going to interview to temporarily replace Hannah because she was black. (Also two others for being Irish and Scottish respectively). Forgive me for saying that, but those were actually published.

Considering the timing was late 50s early 60s, they were edited to suit that eras meaning of being not racist. So wording or the scene that I mentioned above and similar like it are left in the 30s version. Most notably what was gone was the racial profiling and stereotyping of darker skin people (mostly black) as criminals or connection to crime in some way (criminal past, criminal present, possible criminal future). This also applied to other nationalities too, I guess they just wanted to cover all of the bases even if it wasn’t POC. Also that if a POC (or nonAmerican) was a criminal in a mystery, that the Hardy Boys or Nancy had to meet someone who was the same ethnicity as the criminals so they weren’t say all of those people were bad.

Personally, and you’re free to disagree, knowing both a bit about the 30s and 50s/60s versions I feel that the dialogue between describing the criminals became a bit more ambiguous in the edited so that it doesn’t look like they’re only describing POC. Cause I’ve heard people (who know more about the 30s version) say that with most of the descriptions, you’d probably only imagine a POC. Although, idk if this was just me, I don’t really do that with the 50s/60s versions because plenty do have descriptions that can fit white people as well as POC. This isn’t defending it, just my observation.

It makes sense that there are things that either didn’t age well, tone-deaf, or racist to some degree. It’s an old series, this is bound to happen. It’s important to acknowledge both the time this came out, without ignoring the racism that’s there. I’m not excusing the older parts of either property at all by saying this. I also don’t know why they weren’t further edited in later prints, probably money. It’s also acknowledging what is considered racist now is different than what was considered racist back then. Times change and ideas change. Sometimes those ideas are bad and offensive. Such as the multiple accounts of blackface, brownface, yellowface, and redface that do exist in the books still. Again IDK why those are still there.

There’s more things than expected when criticizing the ugly parts of the past. Later books are free from this, except that book where they kinda defended the Confederates. That wasn’t a good choice. Anyway, most of this comes down to age. Both series are older than all of my grandparents, one of them only being a few months but that counts. There’s going to be some problematic elements that slip through the cracks.

Not to sidetrack at the last minute, but criticizing this is slightly different to something newer that has stereotyped or villainized POC. The older books are not excused in their actions, and if it were possible to edit them again I would endorse that but that would probably be difficult. The concept of race and racism have changed over time, so the things we know are wrong now are different than how they were in the past. We know that the stereotyping and criminalization of POC(specifically black and darker-skin people of color) is wrong, POC being in positions of servitude with low-pay is bad even when a bad person is doing it, we know that having a cult that visually resembles the KKK is bad (i think the only reason it stayed is because it’s technically not the KKK, it’s not that effective), and whatever else is there. Age plays a factor into this, because modern media is usually criticized for doing any of the things I mentioned above. Last time, age doesn’t pardon the actions, it creates a reason to why they may be there.

Also this is more general and not specifically about Nancy Drew or the Hardy Boys, but you can like things that have problematic elements to them. You just shouldn’t ignore other people’s reasons for disliking something because of those problematic elements because you like it and that because you like it those things don’t become nonexistent. Take it into consideration when you examine the media you take in and any possible biases you may have.

Regarding all that I’ve said, this topic should be discussed more within the fandom, especially since not all of us are white and if we want to be the open fandom we are then we shouldn’t ignore it or brush it aside because we think we can’t talk about it. It’s a sensitive subject, which makes it more important to do research on it and talk about it. Just cause we like to think the racism in Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys is in the past, doesn’t mean that it actually is. We should always keep learning so we don’t hurt others with our ignorance.

[little-murmaider]

3, 7, 26, 30

This got long, throwing it under a cut!

3. List your fandoms and one character from each that you identify with.I watch a ton of TV but Metalocalypse is the only fandom I’m actively engaged in. As much as I love Skwisgaar I don’t really identify with him, or any of the guys! Maybe Abigail. I too am constantly put-upon by dumb white men. Leslie Knope on Parks and Rec is the character I feel best represents my personality and worldview. As a kid I deeply identified with Helga Pataki on Hey Arnold! Also it’s Monday which means it’s Jane the Virgin night, so I’ll say Petra from that. I don’t identify with her (I’ve never been drugged into paralysis and had my identity stolen by my recently-surfaced twin Jane the Virgin is nuts I love it so much). But I aspire to her levels of hair perfection, and hope to one day acquire an endless wardrobe of floral patterned shorts. 7. Do you care about your ethnicity?I’m going to punt on what it means to be American today cause that’s a heady question I don’t want to get into. I’m Scottish on my dad’s side and Italian on my mom’s. It’s 50-50ish (there’s probably some Irish and Albanian and some other European nonsense in there too) but I more readily identify as Scottish than Italian. My dad and his family have always been VOCALLY Scottish and proud; I had an authentic kilt from a great aunt in Glasgow, every Easter we have a traditional Scottish breakfast with approximately 45 different kinds of meat, etc etc. But my grandma wanted to raise her family as AMERICAN, and didn’t associate with her Italian heritage again until later in life. (She was the daughter of immigrants and had been bullied BY A TEACHER for speaking Italian in class.) But I also grew up in New Jersey, which is a huge enclave of Italian-Americans. Every Italian-American I know, including my family, is gregarious and generous and always, always has a stockpile of good cold cuts in case someone comes over. So while I don’t have a connection to Italy the way I do to Scotland, that culture was a big influence on me. TLDR: yes! Both sides have shaped the person I am today.

26. How would you describe your gender/sexuality?I’m a cis bisexual woman. Identifying as bi is pretty new! Being attracted to women isn’t. But I didn’t recognize it as attraction, or that my experience wasn’t universal. (I didn’t start thinking critically about my sexuality until I was hanging with all my gal pals and off handedly mentioned something like ha ha you know how sometimes you see a girl and she’s so pretty you want to put your mouth on her mouth and they were all like, “?????? No? None of us have ever experienced that,” and I was like, “huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I should…...look into that…...”) Then I went to a Beyonce concert and was like, “Wow I am Not Straight.”But I had this realization while in a long term relationship with the man I’m planning to spend the rest of my life with, so I feel like a little bit of a fraud? Like I don’t “count” as queer? I don’t know, that’s something else I’m working through.

30. Pick one of your favorite quotes."Humanity obliges us to be affected with the distresses and miseries of our fellow creatures. Friendship is a band yet stronger, which causes us to feel with greater tenderness the afflictions of our friends."-Abigail Adams