#my durge apparently is speedrunning this like can’t join us if we’re in act two by the time you catch up!

[nothazellevesque]

Currently trying to figure out exactly how far I can make it into act one in a dark urge play through without succumbing to the urge. So far ive figured out how to postpone the first kill until ive already finished the goblin camp, but if I can maximize my potions of healing and optimize short rests, I think I can actually get through to the shadow cursed lands without killing alfira or quil.here’s where ive gotten so far:

The moment you get access to the grove, you are on a timer. You have to recruit both wyll and karlach before your next long rest. This ensures that the next long rest (where alfira or quil comes to your camp) is overridden by the karlach/wyll confrontation. I also take this day to ensure that every quest or thing that I can do in the grove at the moment is resolved, so I limit the amount of time I spend here after the first kill. This ends the first “day” in game.

Day two: level up as much as possible. This long rest is also safe for alfira/quil, as this rest is taken over by wyll’s pact cutscene. I took this time to get withers, explore the swamp, recruit the owlbear cub (ive had problems with getting the cub to leave the cave, so i have to long rest to check that he’s left.) finish up any other quests that you feel like doing here, the day is yours!

Day three: goblin camp. You gotta do the goblin camp NOW, as you have no remaining cutscene overrides. Either saving halsin and triggering the tiefling party lets alfira/quil live to chill another day, or alfira dies when you massacre the grove, in which case, why have you bothered with the No Murder Challenge? once you’ve gotten through the goblin camp, you can kind of do whatever. I do some other minor quests, build up character approval, that kinda stuff. I also find the underdark entrance for later and get a head start on that crèche quest. At least locate the fast travel locations nearby. :)

Now, in THEORY, if you do the creche on day four and make it all the way to elminster and the mountain pass, his whole thing with telling gale to kill himself could override alfira’s death again. I’m workshopping the Old Guy Override as we speak.

I made it through the goblin camp with this method, but the second i invited elminster back to camp after completing the crèche AND blood of lathander, my game was like “uh… what the fuck is this? no thank you” and crashed. So i guess larian was NOT prepared for someone to just refuse to give alfira/quil the chance to come to camp in the first place (nonviolently of course). I almost wonder if either one will show up at camp if i make it to the shadow cursed lands and long rest because the girlies are Not Supposed To Be In There.