#neo mutant machine tuffle

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Funko Pop Animation Dragon Ball GT Super Baby 2 - 1635

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[treepan0]

okay because I have my hands on the physical copy now (my streaming service only had the sub), and I've been doing some stuff on the side I've learned some interesting stuff about GT. under read more cause there's a bit to ramble about here.

Okay so immediately the first thing I find interesting is the run time:

your average Japanese season for a show is 12 episodes, for GT this is interesting because it has 64 episodes and a movie; which for those wondering that's five seasons with 4 episodes barely scraping over a sixth, that's fairly successful for a studio written anime mind you.

most have one or two seasons they rarely exceed three or even four, so that means GT was somewhat successful in japan. (not surprising just interesting, I know the average length thanks to the many one or two season series I watched back in the day.)

an interesting part from the dub however is how some characters are written to be worse than in the sub, the best example is Pan and Giru as Pan's made far more annoying, and Giru sounds like a muppet for some reason.

moving onto the sagas things get interesting:

the Black star dragon ball saga is 16 episodes, sharing it's last with the Bebī saga most of these episodes are infamous for being episodic and repetitive in nature. there's not much to say about this saga that has not been said.

the Bebī saga is almost half the series with 24 episodes, that's two japanese seasons alone, spanning from episode 16-40 you can tell they got a little ambitious here, no wonder he's the most iconic of the GT villains.

It's pretty obvious General Rild is inspired by the meta Coolers in Return of Cooler, his fight just makes it more obvious; funny enough they share the same dub voice and I will never unhear that.

other details I already noticed in the Japanese version of this saga include:

Bebī is affected by possessing Vegeta on a psychological level at times, often not even realizing it himself in moments, the most obvious sign coming from his interactions with the infected Bulma vs. other infected people in this arc.

finding that scene where he eats the candified Majuub strangely adorable. and the fact this main antagonist shares a voice actor with an obscure sonic character in the sub.

moving on the super 17 saga spans 7 episodes, that's less than a season. not much to say here either, it is kinda funny on the number coincidence.

finally the remaining episodes are the shadow dragon saga, with 6 episodes therefore making it the shortest saga in GT, and half of your average season.

[multiversal-pig-outing]

for those wondering who Kamin is she a neo machine mutant tuffle from dragon ball heroes. her backstory is that her and her brother oren were created by the tuffles of universe 6 to be the ultimate fighters but they got scared how strong they were so they tried to pull the plug. so her and her brother gotten rid of them by killing them.

[sharlamagne]

Mainly doing refs for myself so that explains the shetchy lines/shoddy color.  Thought I’d post it anyway tho. <3

[duhragonball]

What version of the Saiyan Tuffle War do you prefer: the Tufflew subjugated the Saiyans or the Saiyans just straight up obliterated the Tuffles

Between the two options, I think I prefer the first one, simply because all the Tuffle characters we've seen have been diabolical villains, and it sort of undermines them as bad guys if the Tuffles were innocent victims in the war. But that's just a personal preference.

I'm not suggesting that the Saiyans were all sweetness and light either. But it seems a little naive to have an advanced civilization just welcome a bunch of Saiyans onto their planet with no ulterior motives.

I say this because most of what we know about the Tuffles is based on Baby's appearances in Dragon Ball GT. Supposedly, Baby was created by the last survivors of the Tuffles, and they "infused" him with the genes of their king, whatever that means. Baby only had two objectives: to take revenge on the Saiyans, and to to convert or destroy all non-Tuffle life forms. And that's... pretty fucked up when you stop and think about it. Baby was such an over-the-top villain in GT that it was easy to just go along with whatever crazy shenanigans he was up to. But he was programmed by the Tuffles, and presumably the Tuffle King was totally on board with this. If he had lived to see Baby Vegeta ruling over the restored Tuffle Planet with the entire population of Earth infected with his nasty mind control eggs, the King would probably be pleased.

And yeah, the Tuffles would want revenge against the Saiyans, but what did Earth ever do to them? Or any of the other planets Baby menaced? You can make the argument that Baby was a doomsday weapon that went beyond the intentions of his creators, but I think he did exactly what the Tuffles wanted him to do.

And that begs the question: If Baby's reign of terror was the last gasp of the dying Tuffle species, then what sort of weird stuff were they up to before? I'll put some thoughts on this under the cut.

First off, I think it's kind of weird how there's not a clear picture of what a Tuffle is exactly. I went looking on the DB Wiki for some pictures and found this Tuffle design by Akira Toriyama.

That design prevailed in DBZ Episode 20, and also in Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans, when King Kai explains how the Tuffles welcomed the Saiyans to settle on their planet when they crashed there in a wrecked spaceship. The implication from Plan is that the Saiyans didn't just show up one day. They were refugees who needed help, and the Tuffles invited them with open arms.

But it's weird how the Tuffles in DBZ #20 are depicted as being much smaller than the Saiyans, but in Plan they're basically to scale with each other. Maybe that's a continuity glitch, and no big deal, but then you have Dr. Lychee, who looks like this:

He starts out as a regular-looking guy, and then he becomes this blue creature who looks a lot like a prototype for Baby. The blue form is supposed to be nothing more than one of the phantoms created by Hatchiyack in the OAV, like the phantom incarnations of Frieza, Turles, Cooler, and Slug. But those phantoms looked the same as the originals. Why does Lychee look so different? Is this a form that Tuffles can naturally assume?

Which brings me to Baby and his "Tuffle Parasites". By the end of his run in GT, Baby basically identified as a Tuffle, rather than a creation of the Tuffles. When he started infecting Earthlings with his eggs, he called them Tuffles too.

Then you've got Kamin and Oren from Super Dragon Ball Heroes. Apparently they're considered "Neo Machine Mutants", which are Tuffles modified become like Baby, for lack of a better explanation. I'm not sure if this was established in the DBGT days or not, but I guess the current lore is that Baby, Oren, and Kamin were natural Tuffles who were augmented into the form we see here.

I guess what I'm driving at here is that the Tuffles seem to have a very broad definition of what a Tuffle is. For them, it seems to be more about a way of thinking and feeling than any particular appearance or body plan. A machine can be a Tuffle. An Earthling infested with a parasite can be a Tuffle. So maybe those miniature humanoids in DBZ #20 were just one more variety of Tuffle.

I get a real transhumanist vibe from the Tuffles, particularly from the notion of archiving their King's DNA into Baby, and the way Dr. Lychee continued to exist as a "Ghost Warrior" after his natural death. Oh, and the Tuffles of Universe 6 augmented Kamin and Oren. That wasn't for revenge, by the way, they just wanted to see if they could do it, and apparently Kamin and Oren were outraged enough by this that they turned on their creators. Throughout the Dragon Ball franchise, the Tuffles are known for their advanced scientific knowledge, and also for making all these freaky creatures.

And maybe they weren't all evil. I wouldn't go that far. But I get the feeling that their leaders welcomed the Saiyans to their world because they saw a potential resource that they could exploit. Maybe they just wanted the Saiyans to pacify the uninhabited parts of their planet, or maybe they though the Saiyans could help them against other enemies. But maybe they saw the Saiyans as potential test subjects for their experiments. Just a thought.

I don't think the Tuffles necessarily subjugated the Saiyans, but it might have been more of a case of rising tensions. They lived in separate parts of the planet, with the Tuffles in the cities and the Saiyans in the wilderness, but the Saiyans grew more numerous, and the Tuffles probably saw that as a threat, and the Saiyans probably started to wonder why they needed the Tuffles at all. A lot of things might have instigated the war, but it wouldn't surprise me if the flashpoint involved Tuffles experimenting on Saiyan prisoners. If something like that came to light, then it would become a matter of survival. The Saiyans would have to wipe out the Tuffles to avoid being "Tuffleized" or worse. And the Tuffles would have to crush the Saiyans in battle to maintain control of the planet. There could be no return to the status quo; it would have to be total war until one side was completely defeated.

Once the war began, it must have taken a long time for the Saiyans to win. King Kai said that the lunar cycle on Planet Plant was eight years, and that each full moon allowed the Saiyans to gain ground in the war. So this implies that it took several full moons to end the war, so the conflict might have lasted decades, or maybe even a century. There might have been a few armistices or truces during that time, as each side would want to try to regroup and get as much momentum as possible before the next full moon. At least, that's how I'm picturing it.

One causus belli that sticks out in my mind is that the Tuffles were apparently a spacefaring people, but the Saiyans couldn't do much in space until they made contact with the Arcosians, and then King Cold's organization. So maybe the Tuffles were purposely keeping the Saiyans confined to Planet Plant, either to prevent them from escaping, or to isolate them from other civilizations. The Saiyans would take this poorly, I'm sure. So that might have a lot to do with it.

To be sure, the Saiyans of this era were real rat bastards, no doubt. I'm sure a lot of Tuffles of the time would make the argument that they were trying to contain the Saiyans as a matter of self-preservation, or even for the good of the greater universe. But I also suspect that the Tuffles aren't just friendly-looking anime folks. Creatures like Baby, Hatchiyack, Kamin, and Oren give us a peek into their more inhuman qualities, qualities that the Saiyans probably knew firsthand. It's possible that King Vegeta thought he was the one doing the universe a favor when he wiped the Tuffles out.

Something else to consider, in Episode of Bardock, we meet the Plantians, who were apparently the original inhabitants of Planet Plant. At some point, they were gone, and the Tuffles were living there instead, and then the Saiyans showed up and wiped out the Tuffles. So what happened to the Plantians? Did they just migrate to another world, leaving Plant empty for the Tuffles to move in? Or did the Tuffles do something to them? Food for thought.

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Revealed! Dragon Ball Heroes: New Form For Kamioren

Dragon Ball Heroes is moving right along, and, as is the case with the rest of the franchise, is doling out the power boosts at a frantic speed. With Goku and Hearts finishing their first confrontation, the Saiyan has found that the villain attempting to take down the Omni King is more than he can handle. As Goku wrestles with this new antagonist, the fused android pair of Kamin and Oren, or Kamioren, has just gained an upgrade, proving to be quite the challenge for the assembled Z Fighters.

Kamioren is a Neo Machine Mutant Tuffle fusion with a toned body and blue-colored eye sclera-like visors. Its hair is similar to its fusee, Oren, but much larger and slicked back. Its body is completely white save for the red sections and bio-gems on its right side, (symbolizing Kamin), and the blue sections and bio-gems on its left side (symbolizing Oren). It also bares a purple colored bio-gem at the center of its chest as reference to Kamin’s and Oren’s combined signature colors.

Kamioren shares the same personality traits as both Kamin and Oren with a noticeable enjoyment from fighting.

Kamioren also takes great pride in its strength - considering itself to be the strongest - and becomes furious when it is overpowered by opponents it sees as significantly weaker than it, as seen during its battle with Piccolo and Android 17.

Kamin and Oren have given off a Dragon Ball GT vibe, with shades of that series villain Baby, during their brief tenure with the spin-off franchise, fusing together to create an even more powerful entity of Kamioren. Finding that they are unable to fight against the combined forces of Piccolo and Android 17, the fused brother and sister team are given a power up thanks in part to Hearts and the Universe Seed.

Now, with the power boost comes a more hideous form, giving off an appearance that looks similar to that of Hirudegarn, the villain of the thirteenth Dragon Ball Z movie. With the fused being's new power, Kamioren lashes out against the Z Fighters and manages to wrap its massive hands around Goku. Not a slouch in his own right, Goku manages to access Ultra Instinct in the episode's finale seconds, teasing at an even bigger battle to come.

Episode 14 of Super Dragon Ball Heroes is titled, "The Menacing Universe Seed! Kaimoren's Rampage!!" and the synopsis for it reads as such, "Goku starts to get pushed back gradually by Hearts' fierce onslaught! Meanwhile, Piccolo and No.17 clash with Kamioren! They gain the upper hand in the battle by working together, but the situation reverses when the Universe Seed suddenly begins emitting light. Finally, the menace of the Universe Seed is unveiled!"

If you're unaware of this arcade game the promotional anime series is based on, Super Dragon Ball Heroes is the latest digital card fighting game and the top earner in the digital card arcade scene in Japan. Developed by Dimps, the update brought enhanced graphics and the ability to play as seven characters at the same time and provides all sorts of fantastic fan-service never seen in the original series. You can experience it in a way through Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission on Nintendo Switch. Check out our review of the game here for more details.

What did you think of the new powered up, horrific design for Kamioren? Does it remind you of the thirteenth villain of the Dragon Ball Z Movie franchise?

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Funko Pop Animation Dragon Ball GT Baby - 1636

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[multiversal-pig-outing]

All these alternate versions of me and neo machine mutant tuffles wondering why I don't get revenge for the tuffles or what ever. It gets real tiring hearing them blab on about how saiyans are disgusting and that tuffles are so superior. It freaking annoying those asses being so stuck in the past.

[multiversal-pig-outing]

Well officially I'm classified has a neo machine mutant. Or if we go by what the guy who made my blue prints wanted to name what I was. Then it be a neo Tuffle the new genesis of the old tuffle race that was wipe out by the sayians in the past. Or what ever from what I know from his old files that were still intact. *kamin said has she gotten into a fighting stance a crane one at that.*

@slob-multiverse

“Excuse me. Can you tell me how to get to Capsu-“ Caulifla stops as the random universe 7 stranger turns around. The white hair. The red face marks. Painful memories flood back as she sees the key signs of tuffle plauge.

Unaware this was merely the appearance of Kamin. She steps back her pupils small in terror.

Do you need something miss? You seem to seen a ghost or what ever.*Kamin raised eye brow. Wondering what this woman wanted. Unknowing this person was a sayian.*