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= Convergence 1? wow.
Happy World Goth Day!
Remember, there is no one way to be goth.
Be aware of the bands that helped form the subculture (Bauhaus, Siouxsie, The Cure, etc.), but also know there are all sorts of goth music subgenres, so explore!
Goth is for everyone. If someone tells you that you have to be thin, white, young, able-bodied, etc. to be a Real Goth, ignore them. They're wrong.
Goth fashion is based in DIY and combining random bits until you have a look that makes you happy. Goth fashion isn't about spending huge amounts of money at various big 'goth lifestyle' websites.
Always support indie bands, artists, clothing designers, jewelers, etc. when you can. Posting about/promoting them is support!
With much love,
Auntie Jilli
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via an old net.goth pal
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Convergance 8 Playlist
Found an old backup while cleaning up
Behold my playlist from Convergence 8 (May 31-June 2, 2002): Montreal with my original comments
Friday:
I'm dedicating that Set to my Grandfather Adolf Würdinger who died a week prier to all that.
-Opening-
The Astonished Eyes of Evening by Cinema Strange (End to End)
Machina Supremacy - Giana Sisters
Uranium 235 - You Spin Me Round
Suspiria - (Now You See ) The Swine (Re-Mix)
Manuskript - The Sun Always Shines On T.V.
Orgy - Blue Monday [1]
Goldfinger - 99 Red Balloons
Killing Joke - Eighties (Serious Dance Mix)
Tubeway Army - Cars
Yazoo - Don't Go
Fad Gadget - Ricky's Hand (Single Max) [2]
- Captain Matt's Armada Featuring Axel
(where Trevor writes all the songs and does all the work) [3]-
Ghoultown - RotoRiculous
Reverend Horten Heat - Baddest of the Bad
Waltons - Truck Me Harder
Nekromantix - Demons are a Girls best friend
Batmobile - Transelvanian Express
- Fashion Show Part I [4]-
Mark Stewart - Anger
Converter - I died today (Fisted)
Noisex - K. V. (Live)
- Fashion Show Part II [4]-
Atari Teenage Riot - Sick to death
Esplendor Geometrico - Al-Giaber
Einstürzende Neubauten - Haus der Lüge (Live)
Premature Ejaculation - Pigface Show & Tell / Blue Honey
The Eternal Afflict - Kinski is Dead
- This Ascension [5] -
Nina Hagen - Auf'm Friedhof (Long Version)
Schwefel - Metropolis (12" Version)
Bella Morte - Were Shadows Lie
Dreadful Shadows - Chains (Autumn-Remake '96)
- Bella Morte [6] -
[7]
Gigantor - Everything Counts
Vice Squad - Princess Paranoia
The Normal - TV OD
Ghost Dance - Search Lights
The Vibrators - Disco In Moscow
Joy Division - Dead Souls
Sex Beat - Sex Beat
Misfits - Die My Darling
Killer Barbies - Skulls
Wendy O. - It's My Life
Faith and the Muse - Hallow Hills
9XDEAD - Wild Women
Ghoul Squad - Pogo Is dead
T.S.O.L. - Code Blue
The Brickbats - Zombie Flanders
Rammones - Sheena is A Punk Rocker
The Cramps -Sheena's in a Goth Gang [8]
The Fools - Psycho Chicken
999 - Homicide
Ghoultown - Pale Skin Diva
45 Grave - Partytime (Zombie Version)
Christian Death with Rozz - Deathwish [9]
Bloody Dead And Sexy - Bloody Rose
Der Fluch - Rattengift
Jay Kay - Feuer & Asche
Fliehende Stürme - Das Chaos Brütet
The Rorschach Garden - State Protection
[some more that i don't remember right now]
-The Spectrum closed-
Sunday:
[10]
-DJ Doc-
I was there @ 8:20 and started spinning at 8:25 [11]
1000 Homo DJs - Supernaut
Oomph! feat. Nina Hagen - Fieber
[12]
Flying Lizards - Money
Splatterday - Keine Schmerzen Mehr [13]
Sex Pistols - EMI (Unlimited Edition)
The Damned - Neat Neat Neat
Vampire Beach Babes - Tomb Mau Mau
Ghoultown - Boots of Hell [14]
Electric Frankenstein - Grave Yard Truck Race
Frankenstein Drag Queens From Planet 13 - They Only Wants to Eat Your Brain
The Brides - Dress Code Blue
The Vladimirs - Grave Girl
AFI - Last Caress
Baby Horror - El Hotel Del Horror
Action Pact - Suicide Bag
Bordello - Free Ride [15]
Cinema Strange - En Hiver [15]
Bella Morte - Logic [15]
Psychopomps - Badlands
Morbid Poetry - Children of the Eighties
The Merry Thoughts - Boy Sinister
Wall of Voodoo - Mexican Radio
Sigue Sigue Sputnik - Love Missile F1-11 (Short Version)
The Normal - TV OD *
X-Mal Deutschland - Polarlicht
Malaria - Kaltes Klares Wasser [16]
Holy Orange - Pretty Baby
The Rorschach Garden - State Protection *
Alien Skull Paint - Fly With Me
Anne Clark - Abuse
Cat Rapes Dog - Motordead
The Invincible Spirit - Love Is A Kind Of Mystery
Slickee Boys - This Party Sucks
Toy Dolls - Livin La Vida Loca
The Vibrators - Disco In Moscow
Blondie - Hanging on the Telephone [17]
The Stranglers - No More Heroes
P.I.L - The Order of Death
- DJ Mr. Black - [18]
Bella Morte - The Rain Within Her Hands
Crüxshadows - Her Comes The Rain
VNV Nation - [19]
Blutengel - Black Roses
Einstürzende Neubauten - Haus der Lüge
Tears For Fears - Mad World
Depeche Mode - Share The Disease
Pixies - There Is My Mind
- DJ Psyche -
Salome's Wish - Frozen
Faith and the Muse - Running Up The Hill *
Deep Red - Living In Black
Regan - I Am Your Garden
Rhea's Obsession - Memento Mori
Crüxshadows - Cruelty
Written In Ashes - [19]
The Cure - Primary
If/Then - Equal + Opposite
Tapping The Vein - [19]
- DJ Doc -
Alice Cooper - My Generation (Live)
29 Clocks - Psychotic Louie Louie
Dead Kennedy's - California über alles *
Elvis Hitler - Dance of the Living Dead
Motörhead - God Saves The Queen
The Voidoids - Blank Generation
Nina Hagen - Auf'm Bahnhof Zoo
Kiss - God of Thunder [20]
Dee Sniders SMF - The Kids Are Back [21]
Rose Tattoo - Nice Boys
Asylum - System Overload
Sepulerum Mentis - Scary Monsters
Dominator X - Psych Sister
The Redresser - Held Back
Sleepless (br) - Cliche [22]
Antiworld - King of all Monsters
The Plague - Never Die
Strange Boutique - Quicksand Minds
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden
Scarehead - Ha Ha
Voodoo Church - Eyes Scond Dead
Penis Flytrap - Cemetery Girl
De Sade - Venom
Killer Barbies - (The Came From) Mars
Nina Hagen - Viva Las-Vegas [1]
Ghost Dance - Walk In My Shadow
New Days Delay - Glass-Made Savior
Joan Jett - I Love Playing With Fire
Skeletal Family - Promised Land
Texas Terri & the Stiff Ones - Cave Women
Iggy Pop - Lust For Life [23]
The Clash - I Fought The Law
Peter & the Test Tube Babies - Banned From The Pubs
The Exploited - Punk's Not Dead
Rammones - Blitzkrieg Bob
Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The U.K.
The Cramps - Naked Girl falling down the Stairs
Gigantor - Everything Counts
The Cramps - Do The Clam *
Ghoultown - Pale Skin Diva *
Misfits - We Are (138)
T.S.O.L. - Code Blue *
Flesheaters - The Wedding Dice
Stiffs Inc. - Sad Song
Gun Club - Sex Beat
Andi Sex Gang & Mark Almond - The Hungry Years [24]
Birthday Party - Release The Bats
Virgin Prunes - Baby Turns Blue
Cinema Strange - Speak Marauder (Unreleased Version)
Specimen - Beauty of Poisin
Ausgang - I'm A Horse
Alien Sex Fiend - Silver Machine
Lords of the New Church - Method To My Madness
Misfits - Last Caress [25]
Dr. Feelgood - Milk and Alcohol
Screaming Dead - Paint it Black [26]
- the end-
* Request
[1] Blame JAK for that one [2] Dedicated to DJ Ricky Prinz, Munich's finest [3] What an opening Act, Axel is really a Modern Day Sex God TM [4] They were doing there own music for the actual fashion show [5] Sadly I wasn't able to enjoy that show as much as I wanted. I was fighting with a headache. And had to re-sort all my CDs after drooping 'em all to the floor earlier @ when we got the notice that everything should start 1 hour before schedule [6] To be honest I didn't like most of what I have of BM on CD but that Show altered my view 180 degree. You guys ROCK. I haven't seen that much energy since Antiworld last year Herbstnächte. BM is a band we should really look forward to see in Europe. [7] Sorry from here on it isn't in order and I'm not sure if I got all songs 'couse I wasn't able to write down the playlist [8] And don't forget what Sheena became [9] Should be in Order from here on [10] Well sometimes strange things are happening an so I had an other set to do on sunday don't try to find me on the web site it wasn't officially announced [11] Just o entertain the crew while doing last preparations [12] Some more songs that I haven't written down just to get a feeling for the volume and decided after that to go as loud as that damned thing will let me go. [13] A local Munich Punk/Power POP band that were playing @ the new years party I did with Ricky earlier that year. [14] Who ever will do Convergence 9 try to get Ghoultown [15] A little tribute to some of the great bands we had the pleasure to here the last days [16] That one goes to Miss Janette [17] That one goes to Maria my beloved one who was turning heads all weekend long [18] Thanks to Mr. Black and Psyche for giving me a break and to Sexbat for checking back from time to time to see if I need an other [19] Can't read that one, sorry :-( [20] This one is for the best Stage Manager on the planet [21] For Brian, not exactly Twisted Sister but the best I could do for you. [22] Time to honor the best Masks [23] From now on it's dedicated to Bella Morte [24] From now on it's dedicated to Purp an all others who still hold the flag of deathrock up. [25] This one was a request of the bartender girl [26] I wanted to end the night with "Beerdrinkers and Hellraisers" by Motörhead but I forgot it at my hotel room so I ended the night with my preferred version of Paint it Black ;-)
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I feel the need to provide illustrations.
I was SO PROUD of these, guys. I made them myself. These are what I replaced the stock clipart my geocities site was made with.
There was terrible poetry and loads of net.goth stuff and all the look-at-me photos in tiny 90s sized potato quality. The whole site would fit beautifully in a single post here on tumblr.
It got me a job.
i found the archive of my old geocities website from 1996.
It's certainly a thing.
There are So Many Ankhs. And spiderwebs. Some of the ankhs are on fire.
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if you have the time, i was wondering if you have any personal suggestions for researching goth? i kinda consider myself one n i've done a lotta reading but 1) i live in megachurch hq Colorado n i don't know how to find the goths 2) all the books n essays i've found have been SUPER white and SUPER skinny (im former but not latter) & i /know/ goth exists beyond this tiny selection of ppl and that goth welcomes more than just that type of person n i wanna read different experiences?
Honestly this is hard for me to answer I’ll be real w you. Because when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I was a baby bat just getting into the subculture it was a totally different situation. there was no “researching” per se like I literally just started dressing weird and hanging out with ppl lol. the internet wasn’t ubiquitous then to the point that goths who hung out online actually had their own label lol (net.goths). I mean there was alt.gothic on Usenet and...uh. email lists. So I got involved literally from ppl I met irl bc there was massive overlap with the local goth scene and the other circles I ran in (witchy/queer/rennies/nerds). I found out about bands from digging thru CDs at Tower Records and I found out about parties/events bc I hung out in brick and mortar goth boutiques and Vampire the Masquerade LARPs. This is a generational gap thing and I literally don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t read anything I literally just met ppl...irl...heh. I can’t tell you how to be goth or w/e. first of all there’s no one way to do it. there’s 9000 subgenres of music and style that no one can agree on. I’m heavily into Victorian/Edwardian goth fashion and darkwave music and you may not like that shit. It’s all good. expose yourself to as much as possible. In some ways you have it easier than I did coming up bc Spotify exists. it depends on the area, there’s a ton of goth FB groups (which yeah FB I know but I’ve met some cool ppl). there are goth scenes everywhere even if some are on life support. even in fundie focus on the family ass colorado. I promise. you just have to look. also I highly rec gothiccharmschool on tumblr for baby bats and newbs bc she’s been around forever (I actually found her site years ago before tumblr was a thing) and she knows what’s up. she’s also really sweet and gives good advice.
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Grab your EMF meter and don some ghastly apparel and join us next October in a weekend full of paranormal phenomenon including Things That Go Bump In The Night honoring the ghost of net.goths past, present and future. Don't be afraid, just walk on in. Milwaukee holds no bounds for our mortal selves. You will be spellbound by the haunting delights that we and this mystical city have for you.
See the full bid here: http://www.altgothic.com/c24mke/#welcome
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Started on Usenet, then migrated with my people (net.goths) to LiveJournal. Later my smaller self-selected subset of the original net.goths moved to irc and Facebook. . . .THEN tumblr.
I'm not moving again. This is it. I've been on the internet since 1995, forced into nomadic wandering by the fickle pressures of community spaces (the above were not the only spaces in which I was very active, for lengths of time) in order to just keep in touch with my people, who have by now gone through every life stage and change from education to career to weddings and children and divorce and child loss and parent loss and now, yes, the loss of some of my actual people. I'm just plain not moving again, and I hope my people won't either.
Okay, you know what? I must know, because I know many of my LiveJournal friends jumped ship for Facebook and Tumblr and we all have enjoyed Tumblr a lot:
Who here used to be on LiveJournal? Who still has a Dreamwidth account but it's not the same? Who came to Tumblr initially hungry for something that resembled LJ Community but included more visuals?
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Summer Vacation Boredom Project:
AKA what I'll be doing in between working and hopefully improving my dead social life:
Fixing up the convoluted mess that is the Goth TV Tropes article. Jesus Christ! Not a single reference to the proper music or even any useful fashion or literary references, just a bunch of people thinking it's a synonym for spooky. Would also like to get a good list going of actual goths in the media, not just spooky ethereal girls. I suspect I might thin the herd a little.
Also probably creating a Useful Notes page.
Respectable information sources would be very much appreciated.
#my real scene is dull so I'm improving the internet one#goth#Tv Tropes#Net.Goth#gothic#post punk#dark alternative#alternative#subculture
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It's still up!
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Images from Blackrose . co . UK. I miss them.
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