#now if i admit right here in the tags that in this particular instance i'm talking about something from 2017... on a scale from 1-10
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sometimes a piece of queer media is very obviously cheap and also bad and outdated in ways that aren't even particularly interesting, but it's just so obviously from The Before Times that it's painfully difficult not to be charmed by it anyway
#now if i admit right here in the tags that in this particular instance i'm talking about something from 2017... on a scale from 1-10#how dramatic does Before Times sound? because personally i think that in terms of queer media#seven years is like. at least one whole age. it's an eternity. tectonic plates have shifted#but also maybe together with me (the media in question) just reminds me a ridiculous amount of a 2008-ish german soap#it definitely somehow feels. older than it is. which is not good. but i repeat: it's charming to me!!#it's many flaws in a trenchcoat and i would never recommend this to anyone but i think i love it. very irrationally so.#(though i AM largely skipping over both the age gap AND the teacher/student romance subplots. yes those are two separate relationships)#(which. frankly. is a method of watching a thing that just reminds me even MORE of the german soap. so there's that)#*
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Omg Reaper 2.0's misogyny? I'm intrigued LOL especially since I don't remember a lot of details about him. So if you'd be willing to spill the tea... 👀
Ok everyone buckle up, it’s tea spilling time 😌🍵
Meta: 2.0’s Misogyny and Views on Gender Roles/Sociology
⚠️ TW: child abuse, domestic abuse ⚠️
So the specific instance I think of is during the Reaper arc, when the kids are breaking in to save Irina. And they first come face to face with him, and have to engage in combat. He takes them down effortlessly, we all know.
But...there’s a moment in which he purposely hits Kayano especially hard with his knee, and believes he has broken her ribs. He callously remarks, “Females are so fragile.”
Let’s break this down:
A. Kayano is literally the smallest girl/student. She is very petite, and everyone knows this. It's obvious even when she's wearing their uniform.
B. He knocked down everyone so easily, but seemed to take a particular joy in brutalizing her. A petite girl.
C. Given that he's been watching the class, he must've known that she was actually stronger than she seemed. But again, I question this particular violence and the comment afterwards.
For a while, I thought maybe he had just said that to be cruel for no reason. To rile them up and be an asshole. I mean, it would be fitting, right?
No. I came to the eventual conclusion that this man is a misogynist, for sure. And there are indicators that Koro, his only role model, might bear some resentment towards women himself.
There's also proof in the way that he treated Irina, even when they were "allies." He seemed to really disrespect her and look at her like a joke, despite her accomplishments as an assassin. And whatever worth he did believe her to have, he only thought it came from her sexuality.
Like...why else was Irina dressed down to only lingerie in the arc? Because it was part of his plan, and he looked down on her and her profession.
Expanding the context a bit, it really also does prove how he looked down on women. He had Irina appear half-dressed, upset, and completely weak before she tricked everyone. The embodiment of female fragility, and how sexuality is tied into that. I hope this is making sense omg
Now, moving onto his past~
I really recommend you read this awesome meta by @akamayumura (sorry for the tag!!) They delved into his childhood and psychological state very well, in my opinion.
We can infer that 2.0 grew up in a terrible household, and that is an equal contribute to his behavior, as well as the possibility of him having an anti-social disorder. I mean, he was so happy to see his father get killed in front of him...

Not only that, but he literally romanticized the killer. In that moment, he didn't experience grief, but gained a rose-tinted view of death. He literally begged Koro to go with him and grow into someone like that.
Clearly, there was some psychological reason for this. But that isn't unordinary for abused children to feel, having such a disconnect. He didn't view it as his father being murdered, but rather: a person he hated finally leaving his life.
And then he gained loyalty for the person who was responsible -> The Reaper.
I cannot find it for the life of me, but there is apparently a moment in canon where 2.0 describes his father as "tyrannical."
And you know what?
Usually in a household with an abusive tyrannical father, there is a weak, complacent mother.
This is so interesting that we're on this topic now, because I just read a book detailed all about this. It's called "Men Who Hate Women, and the Women Who Love Them" by Susan Forward. Please read it omg, it's so good and informative on how misogyny is engrained in childhood, relationships, etc.
But yeah!
This exact dynamic is a formula for men who grow up to be misogynistic because their first example of a woman in their lives is their mother, who is the victim in an abusive dynamic.
Here are some pictures from the book to help explain.

^ 2.0’s hatred towards his father

^THIS.
Either 2.0 grew up having to provide emotional labor for his mother, or there was none at all between them. Overall though, there is a sense of resentment and abandonment given that the father was so dominating, and his mother was a victim too.
Men who lived in households like this, often grow up into believing that women are to be controlled, because this is the example they had to go by for so long.
On top of that, there's a layer of resentment and distrust towards women because his own mother didn't stand up for herself and protect him. Why would another woman do so?
But to sum it up:
2.0 believes women are weak, fragile, easily controlled, and cannot be trusted at all.
There's evidence in his attack on Kayano, and the way he treated Irina.
Ahem, also notice how he seemed to act more professional around Karasuma, and took him much more seriously. Like yeah, Karasuma is more serious, but why on Earth would one of the best assassins in the world regard a government agent over another top-notch assassin?
If Irina were a male assassin, I definitely think the treatment and attitude would be different honestly.
ALSO.
2.0 loves flowers, we know! But there's another reason why he possibly used a flower shop guy as his cover.
To easily manipulate women, the target customers of flowers.
Hmmmmmm.
Anyways, yeah, we can deduce that his misogyny was born from his childhood of having an abusive father and seeing his mother as a victim.
Not to mention, that he spent most of his life with Koro, who definitely didn't treat him to respect women lmao.
I actually feel like Koro has his own personal resentment towards women/femininity...but before I make a post about that, I'll have to do more research.
Anyways, we all knew 2.0 had dad issues, but there are a lot of mommy issues on top of that.
This isn't me trying to cancel him or anything btw! He's still one of my favorite characters, I love him. I just find this characteristic of his to be pretty interesting and worth diving into. (Although I will admit, that Kayano rib scene upsets me a bit.)
So yeah! Hope you enjoyed this meta! And I hope this tea is hot enough 🍵🍵🍵
#assclass#ansatsu kyoushitsu#assassination classsroom#meta#post#nidaime#nidaime shinigami#2.0#reaper 2.0#korosensei
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@music-on-canvas tagged me to name 6 fictional characters you love that are not associated with your blog - thanks! 🙂 (just love, not "in love", because that would make this list much shorter)
Well my blog is indeed "mostly music" and barely any actors so we'll see how this goes. It's gonna have to be all older American TV shows. 3 of these characters I'm attracted to, 1 is kind of adorable, and 2 not my type.
In no particular order:
1. Logan from Gilmore Girls
I don't normally go for blondes (David Bowie is a rare exception) but Logan won me over with his wit, charm and sweetness.
2. Chandler from Friends
For me this is one of his greatest moments. Alright, I've posted about Chandler before on here, but how could I not add him?
3. Phoebe, also from Friends.
She had some of the best lines. For instance, I would love to say this and be able to get away with it!
4. Eric from That 70's Show
In the earlier years before he turned into a total slacker and (spoiler alert 🚨) also dodged his own wedding. He had so much potential.
5. Kelso, also from That 70's Show
Dear God he was an idiot lol. But a cute idiot.
6. Leo, also from That 70's Show
Sorry, I'm kind of blanking on any other shows right now. Here's another stoner character who wasn't very bright. But he made me laugh anytime he started talking. Played perfectly by Tommy Chong.
So for the record, not attracted to Leo or Phoebe. Eric is kind of adorable. And so I am attracted to Logan, Chandler and Kelso (in Kelso's case I'll admit it was mostly the looks).
Movie characters would include Jude from "Across The Universe", Gilbert from "Anne Of Green Gables" (Okay 1 Canadian show in there) and Alex from "Music & Lyrics". I just remembered these as I was finishing this off.
Tagging, if you feel like it: @tiggertaylor @discreetmusic @duranarchy-in-the-uk @fatal-plastic-kiss @wonhakwoon @medazzabon @slashscowboyboots @mccartneyvinyl and anyone else who wants to chime in or is just really bored. I don't know if anyone watches these shows anymore (besides maybe Friends), especially since they all aired before 2010 I think.
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