#otipep

[hey-i-am-trying]

hi, tripoier here! Long text incoming alert and a detailed explanation of the situation for qsmpblr (also sorry if I make some typos I'm writing without translator)

Yeah I also saw what happened today with the og admin of Pepito and I have a lot to say about it. First of all I'm not speaking in behalf of the community but I'm my own experience of the situation. I watched the development of Pepito's story since day one and fell in love with that little guy (and his laggy PC). Then second day arrived and I noticed the admin change bc he was less laggy and I've learned enough Portuguese and 07's (Richas admin) mannerisms to recognize when he's playing a character, even Roier noticed but didn't say anything until the screencap incident lol

Few day passed and 07 created such a cute and wholesome personality for Pepito, that contrasted very well with the role that roier was having at the moment— that it's understandable that it may not be too comfortable for some people but for the ones that had been watching Roier's story in the server + his relationship with Bobby, we take it with humor/hope for him to heal slowly after what happened in Purgatory and with Bobby (and believe me, Bobby had a HUGE impact on how Roier behaved with the rest of he eggs after his death)

So during the days 07 played as Pepito all the tripoiers were in this state of hope because we knew how much q!Roier was trying hard to not to get attached to Pepito, he knew the moment something happens to him he was gonna suffer A LOT, and Pepito was this pure, innocent ray of sunshine that it was imposible for us not to love immediately (Roier also did from day one but he loved to play with us + his lore at the moment was being in depression for the lost of his husband and having Richas and Leo in their comatose state). Also, is worth to mention that after he discovered it was 07 the one playing as Pepito he became more playful and started to tease him just to make him go out of role (and succeeded one time). Which is why he used the chancla a lot with him, as a shield for the feelings that were starting to grow on him again.

Then, Otipep happened.

This is the part I'm gonna be more careful to explain bc there is a language barrier that for the people who don't have Spanish as their first language they cannot understand or got confused

When Otipep appeared Roier noticed that it was another admin playing as Pepito because 07 was busy helping with Q's lore, we don't know if he recognized immediately that it was the original one or just a random temporary admin, but he noticed that this Pepito appeared where the fist one disconnected (in the garden outside of his house). Some people noticed that it was the original one and got happy bc it meaned that finally Pepito had his permanently admin back and bc Richas and the others eggs were also back from the coma we could see them both at the same time (roier used to joke about it every time 07 was around)

We also thought that the og admin had been catching up with the role that 07 has built so far with Pepito (which was not, and we would never know if it was either miscommunication between the admins or the og admin just decided to ignore the actual role to keep their 'idea' for the role), so at first we were a little bit shocked when this Pepito started acting so "dry" (idk if this is the correct word) with Roier, bc we had already gotten used to Pepito's tender way of speaking, but we just let that pass for a bit.

But then that "dry" behavior started going to go down a path were even we as an audience started getting uncomfortable, because roier was trying to socialize with the admin but they clearly didn't knew what's has been going on these past days, so Roier take the time to make a summary of the last days with his typical chill humor, and while he was doing that everything reached its final point with the sign "hueles a culo también hijo de puta" = you also smell like ass son of a bitch.

now This. THIS right here is what destroyed everything. Because you would say "oh, it's just Pepito following Roier's game, it's was in a playful way".

No.

It. was. not.

When Roier starts calling someone with some swears or related words is always in a playful way, and there is context and trust behind. When Otipep put that sign Roier was making a summary of the role that 07 has been doing with Pepito, bc he didn't wanted to let them behind, and while doing that he always explain with his usual humor to make it less unconformable for the admin/ entertained for his audience.

So when he placed that sign we all get out of the loop because it came from nowhere, even Roier kept silence of a few second because 1). it sounded rude, that sign was so out of place 2). Roier was explaining the last few days to the admin so he can keep up with the role, he was not "joking" with the admin, or moving on to another topic, he was helping the admin. 3). We, as an audience, felt so shocked because they weren't saying that to Roier in a playful way, they were giving weight to those words. And this is the part that people that do not have Spanish as their first language doesn't understand. They gave weight to the insult. They didn't wrote that as a joke, they directly INSULTED the streamer.

Then roier proceeded to hit him with the chancla bc he wanted to take the control back of the situation in a humorous way, a damage control in other words, because the chat was filling with "??????" And people getting offended and angry (justified, even I felt offended) with the admin, but Roier is not of those type of persons and he always try to make his streams a safe place for his community, so if you ask me he did a really well job handling the situation even tho he felt offended and his audience noticed that for the rest of the stream (hell, even days later)

And if that was not enough, Roier kept trying to save the situation but the admin was not cooperating, with the "no he preguntado"= I've not asked you and other sign that I just don't remember and is not really worth it (and bc Otipep literally left Roier speaking alone with the "I'm going to look for better parents" and went to spawn zone), he just gave up trying and waited for Richas to come back (which was also chocked w the situation)

And this is me speaking from a non-neutral tone, but I think we could've had a Roier being super loving and caring with Pepito if this situation didn't happen in the first place, bc after this I noticed that Roier stopped tried to get close to Pepito, the situation really affected him so whatever role he was building with the character he just simply stopped and changed the dynamic with another one more limited and less parental, but keeping his usual humor bc it was not the fault of the actual admin or 07, it is what it is unfortunately.

That's why I'm so glad that the actual admin and Ricardão did such a good job saving Pepito because the Spanish speaking community was about to drop him, even streamers friends of Roier that are not part of the qsmp acknowledge the behavior of Otipep with Roier (if that doesn't say a lot about how complicated it was on this side of the road)

And even after all these things there was people out there calling the Spanish speaking community as dramatic or harassing Roier when the situation happened (and it seems they still do it :/ ), but most of us kept quiet because we respect Roier and as he says, mejor pasamos de movidas.

and well, this is it, I know I'm missing some points in the story but honestly getting into fights or hate in general is not my thing, I wanted to give some context for the people of Tumblr because I know, at least here people take the time to read and are more chill unlike twt, and I hope I gave some clarification for the rest of the communities that are not native in Spanish, I really really love Pepito and I'm so glad we had 07 and the actual admin there to play this character, I still can't believe that person had the audacity to come out proudly as Pepito's 1st admin when literally no one from the Spanish community considers his 2 appereances as canon after their blunder xd

Thank you for sharing!

I understand that some stuff are hard to translate, thank you for taking the time. I didn't know that your community was being called dramatic because of that! That is dumb as hell and I am sorry it happend in the first place.

Of course we are no in business of spreading hate. I have always tried to see the other side of situations, I think from what I read in the admin's doc they had some kinda of vision for the character, but I guess they didn't realized that well, they were not going to become automaticly friends with Roier and have room to "joke" like that just because they have become an egg admin. Probably my best guest of what it happend.

It is really weird, maybe they were banking on the support that the other admins have gotten? Or they actually never realized how insulting they have come out as.

Well, I don't have much to say, except I am sorry it happend at all with Roier and the hispanic community.

[aoiumii]

I'm going to rant here cause it's been two days that the Hispanic community, specially the latin american one, is trying to explain why we are mad with the otipep situation and people don't care to listen to us, the problem never was that the admin wasn't hispanic, the problem was that she was rude to a cc, it wasn't part of any "rol" she insulted him from nowhere and even though Ro knew it wasn't the admin that used to play Pepito with him, he tried to rol and started to tell otipep his lore from the very begining, a lore Ro fans love to listen, and what does otipep responds?? "I didn't ask you" wtf even Ro was done and stop playing with him...

that's why we are mad, and then that admin comes and says Pepito was hers?? she can only attribute herself the first day of Pepito and Otipep cause the Pepito that 07 and Li played to us was a small and lovely child who was always happy with very little... that's the Pepito we cherish

the language was a problem? don't think so, 07 has been learning Spanish for only one year and never insulted any hispanic cc, she claims that she is very good at languages and has been learning it for 10 years, she should have known that you don't say those words so lightly

she can say it was a bad day and also use the neurodivergent card but as a neurodivergent myself I know that those aren't excuses to be rude or shitty to anyone... she didn't handle the situation professionally and then she appears to play the victim saying she didn't knew why after that day she was fired...

yeah, she offered an apology to Ro (cause people came after her) but he can't read it cause she went private so... what was the point

[diesfortunae]

im like horribly late to this but the difference between Empanada's and Sunny's nicknames compared to Pepito's is abysmal 😭😭😭

Empanada's

Sunny's

Pepito's (😭)

[magicinverse]

Every time I think about Pepito I go back to the diamond chest

That diamond chest he thinks he has to work for and be a big Pepito to deserve it, to have a lot of stuff for himself and for his Pa Roier

That diamond chest that Roier left on the normal chest, because he knows Pepito deserves it even if he says otherwise.

The diamond chest Pepito doesn't know he has

[takethebodymarc]

one of pepito's first 'rooms' just being two blocks lmaoo

[qsmpconfessions]

While I'm glad that Pepito's character arc (hopefully) won't be going as dark as it initially seemed, I think the 'Otipep' retcon is really frustrating. Give us a weird, antisocial, atypical 'problem' child who's only a 'problem' because their carers lack the patience and/or resources to connect with them in the way they want and struggle to meet their specific needs, do it you cowards

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[professional-little-lark]

Yall if we don't get Pepito content today I think I'll die, actually just drop dead.

If the clock strikes midnight and we haven't had Pepito content my heart will simply stop and it'll be the last time anyone hears from me

[mmyashas]

Aldo otipep mention.. ........ He was so real.......

[pixiecaps]

further confirmation from richas that otipep isnt canon. and described pepito sleeping outside that one day as “sleepwalking and camping in front of the white house. how cute!” smile and wave guys smile and wave it never happened

[pommunist]

Back from my slumber I have a lot of asks about the situation with Pepito’s OG admin and the « Otipep incident » (don’t know what else to call it lmao) and pretty much my only take is that this whole thing could have been fixed or even entirely avoided very easily by doing 2 things.

1. Hire an admin who is fluent in spanish and ideally from latin america.

Not only it makes sense since all 5 of Pepito’s parents are native spanish speakers who mostly used spanish when playing on QSMP, but also because being fluent in a language comes with some understanding of what is and isn’t acceptable to do/say to someone.

Random exemple but Lea played a pinguin during Carnaval and the first interaction between them and Antoine is just them two insulting each other with chat and Baghera all laughing at it. But that’s possible because by being from the same culture and linguistic background you know it’s fine/can pick up social cues easily if it’s not to adapt your roleplay.

This isn’t a dig at the admin for not knowing enough spanish btw, they just weren’t the good fit for this roleplay situation. « They must have lied about speaking spanish » I can lie about being fluent in spanish while only really having a basic level and a 5 minutes discord call would expose that.

2. Oh my, miss communication (pun intended) you again ?

Having a system to allow ccs and admins to share boundaries, both general and for specific scenes would have solved so many issues. Like just being able to have discussions such as « My character is really angry today because X and might act rude, what would be your limits regarding that ? » or « Hey the lore I plan on doing today touches some heavy topics is that okay ? ».

This is especially important when you have the dynamic of admins who are in character 100% of the time and ccs who switch on and off the RP aspects, that’s a receipe for misunderstanding that can even extend to the audience.

Another example would be the one time Em told Bagi to shut up because her character was angsty and while Bagi seemed okay with it but a lot of viewers saw it as very rude.

Communication also allow you to fix it if things go wrong once or twice, and make sure it doesn’t happen again. Because if you don’t have a direct line to talk about it your options are 1) dealing with it live on stream (bad) 2) not being able to discuss it at all (also bad)

[hey-i-am-trying]

So, as someone who was watching the stream and watches many of Roiers specifically, but is not Hispanic, first it was clear from when the admin logged on it was someone different than who had been (07) for almost a week. After a bit of the admin playing as a more solitary egg and more standoffish, they told roier to "leave them alone", then roier tried talking with them and explaining how things had been during the week (him trying to explain stuff lore and week events Roier & pepito had)

the admin then said, "You smell like ass too, you son of a bitch. No one asked you"

After Roier let the admin leave to do whatever, after spending at max 30 minutes together, he was clearly uncomfortable being called things, especially by someone he had had no interactions with. He did his own things for a little bit longer.

But afterwards, Aldo, who was watching, spoke about how it wasnt okay specifically. Many tripoiers were thinking Roier would scold chat the next stream, for speaking out against how this admin was acting, but he didnt just. And then later said that they day just wasnt canon anymore. So many believe, he personally reached out to the admin team or Q about it.

From what has been explained to me, by Hispanic friends and other fans, the main issue is that this was obviously said in an insulting manner to Roier, but even if they were trying to "rp" or jokingly say it this admin had 0 relationship with Roier prior to this. Saying these things out of nowhere is never okay and was not okay.

And saying the reason they acted this way was because they were sick and Roier spoke too fast, which aggravated the situation?

And their "apology"? " i never realized that it wasnt in rp that you were uncomfortable "? But they had been online seeing the things said about the situation?

Thank your for explaining! I was no aware it was this bad! It is not anyone else 's place to forgive the admin but Roier, so really I can't say much.

It was definetly rude, and while I will again say we can't make a judgement of a complete person for a moment, in my opinion Roier deserves a better apology.

I can't go inside the admin's mind and say for sure if they meant what they say in rp or not, because I had in the past stumble on social norms like a train rack and I get it not realizing how rude you are sounding in the moment. But again, I would apologize after I realize how I acted.

And about not seeing the posts online, I can't say for sure. I will give an example of a situation I actually saw unfold and why assume that someone saw posts, not metter how "viral" it was or how many they were, is honestly a bad idea.

When Empanada was first introduced, there was a sever moment of hesitation in the brazilian qsmp community, Bagi was one of the most active brazilian players and people liked to go to her stream to just have a portuguse speaking player to listen, but since Bagi has become Em's mom, she barely would speak portuguse and would mostly talk in english with her.

Some brazilians fans expressed very politely why they were feeling bad with this situation, explaining how it made them feel like they were "losing" a portuguese speaker, and in a smp where the principle was having the ccs being able to speak their native languages, it felt like their language was being side line again.

At the same time, they were people not so politely saying what a dumb decision was to give a german egg to a brazilian cc, that they should kill Empanada or fire her admin and hire a brazilian admin for the role.

Bagi's and Em's admin saw the rude posts and not the polite ones. So when they decided to talk about in stream, Bagi was obviously furious about it and was very harsh.

That generated a lot of hate to them and especially to Em because believe that was their answear to the polite posts.

Bagi later read the more polite thread and talked about it in a calmer manner, her and Empanada try to use more of the translator to speak in their respective languages.

I know this feels like a unrealed rant at the end, but I wanted to just give an actually example of how making assumption of what people saw or did not saw is kinda useless and even harmful because we can not actually be sure about it, yes they metion the twitter posts on their letter, but who knows what tweets they actually saw.

Coming back to the situation. They said they are an autistic person, which while not an excuse to be an asshole to someone, can explain losing the grasp social norms, and being unware of what was crossing rp lines, that happens. Not an excuse but an explanation, they are an adult and after understanding they were rude they should have apologize properly.

Life is a bit more complicated than black and white, being an asshole once to somebody doesn't mark them as an asshole for the rest of their lives, I hope the admin can get something out of this situation and learn, hopefully they will reach out to Roier to say sorry.

[anonymous-dentist]

And the thing is?

The thing is??

Some small part of qRoier is attached to Pepito, because he kept saying that today's Pepito wasn't his Pepito. That was a different Pepito. Otipep. Something possessed Pepito. That wasn't Pepito, that wasn't his son who loved him. Pepito might not be real, but Otipep replaced him, and he did a bad job doing so, and Roier doesn't miss Pepito, but he knows that this wasn't his Pepito today.

Pepito might not be real to Roier, but that didn't stop him from calling Pepito his, anyway. Their relationship may not be healthy, but Roier's never been able to keep himself from feeling no matter how hard he's tried.

[youngtimemachineheart]

Hello! Spanish speaker here. Descargándose un poco sobre lo que ha pasado, especialmente lo del otipep

Creo que muchas cosas ya se han dicho y supongo que la mayoría ya habrá comprendido la situación. Así que solo una cosa mas

Mi molestia (mia) y de varios ni siquiera es tanto con los admins (si nos molesto pero hay algo que nos está molestando mas) porque otipep se disculpo (tengo entendido), y lo del admin de empanada pues creo que depende de ella reflexionarlo. Lo que si me molesta es la comunidad entera, desde el inicio llamaron a los que decían algo que los incómodo dramáticos, exagerados, etc. Especialmente a hispanos. Y ahora que finalmente están entendiendo nuestra molestia e incomodidad nos responden que no lo sabían porque el contexto estaba EN ESPAÑOL.

Lo que estoy entendiendo es que opinaron y minimizaron el sentido de una comunidad por meses sin tener el debido contexto. Lo que estoy obteniendo es que NO te importo entender el problema a pesar de que todo paso por el lado HISPANO. Porque estaba en ESPAÑOL.

Ni siquiera entendías el problema porque no estaba en tu idioma, de todos modos opinaste y ahora de la forma más descarada dices “es que estaba en español”

Y cuando leo personas diciendo “i cant say my opinion” pero ya opinaste y ni siquiera entendías el problema y eso es… decepcionante

Haces que nos sentimos invisibilizados y minimizados. 

Haces que sintamos que en realidad no importamos y que nunca lo hicimos para empezar. 

[anycornie]

Eu não ia fazer nada de QSMP tão cedo, mas vai se fuder o Richas e o Pepito. Não resisti... Eles são extremamente fofos!!

Esse tá bem mais simples pois foi feito no celular às pressas, eu grelada de sono usando toda a força de vontade que ainda tinha pra ficar igual uma gay viciada na relação deles

Te amo Pepito que não é mais o Otipep

Imagino se vão lembrar que o Chinelo do Roier tá com o Richas. Rapaz...

[magicinverse]

Aldo talking about Otipep and how he didn't liked how he talked to Roier that he was over the line

Aldo you are gold, speaking for the tripoiers

For one I'm greatful Aldo wasn't there because he would have kill Pepito (also Aldo is really really aware of Roier's lore and stuff on the qsmp!! So... )

[takethebodymarc]

:(