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ask-the-clergy-bc · 4 years

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Could you do headcanons for how the Papas and Copia would react to the angel of death (that has yet to fall) visiting them, claiming it's curious about them and the clergy, maybe going as far to fall for their temptations if you want to add that

(Some of these got deeper than anticipated, but they were fun to write!)

Papas/Copia being visited by the curious Angel of Death

Papa Nihil:

~Actually, this would not be the FIRST time he has had an Angel come to him. Nihil is just surprised such a titled Angel had the balls to come talk to him directly. It would be the equivalent of him waltzing up to an arch angel and asking them how their day was!

~Despite how many think he is a daft old man, he isn’t stupid enough to just give away all clergy secrets. But he would answer as many questions as he could to sate their curiosity. Only enough info he might give to someone like a reporter, but not enough to be anything useful. Very vague.

~Nihil has actually dealt with Angels directly before. Sometimes in war there have been a few compromises here and there- and sometimes you have to play nice for mutual benefit. What these deals were? Only he, Imperator, and Emeritus I know.

~If he senses vulnerability with the Angel he uses his demonic persuasion against them. It’s a very handy manipulation technique his bloodline typically use. Masks it as simple conversation on WHY they might want to come all this way to talk to a harmless old man.

~A dangerous game, but Nihil is curious- could they tempt the Angel of Death onto their side? What a strong ally to have! He bides his time but can’t help but be smug when the angel returns again and again for tea...

Papa I:

~ABSOLUTELY NOT. Listen, you couldn’t get Papa to square up faster than to present him with an actual angel IN HIS CLERGY? Especially a HIGH RANKING ANGEL? Doesn’t matter if they are curious he is about to throw them out of his territory by sheer force, if need be.

~Papa does NOT trust them a single bit. The fact that they have they AUDACITY to come to him on his home turf can almost send him into a blind rage.

~Not a lot of people know this, but Papa has an utter HATRED for Heavenly beings and everything they stand for. Papa sees it only as a deception or them trying to gain access to their Ministry and Demonic secrets.

~ He MIGHT deal with them should they fall, but they would be pushing their luck in dealing with him directly. Papa can sense sinful intentions, but does not humor simple curiosity from Angels- EVER. To him they are mindless drones bent on his bloodline and flock’s destruction.

~Too much in a nearly blind rage to ever consider tempting them, let alone tolerate their very being. He’s normally very calm and collected, but this is Papa’s greatest weakness. His wrath and resentment are too great, and it often leaves him feeling foolish for not taking the chance. But to him, the gamble isn’t worth the destruction of their hard work... again.

Papa II:

~Many are surprised that Papa is way more calm than his older brother- and often think they would have completely opposite reactions! But Papa has learned well, and he is more sinister and clever than the average bear.

~There is a reason he sings about the ‘Ancient Serpent Deceiver’ - because Papa has learned well under Him and his teachings. His very being and Papacy is around turning the blind to their cause and making them open their eyes. Angels are no different than humans... just a tad more powerful and stubborn.

~His normal charming gentleman self but with his Papa side showing- the one that guides the flock into Lucifer’s warm embrace. (Fun fact, he might seem very grumpy and angry but he’s VERY good at his job.) How easily the Angel of Death comes to him is almost comical. Possibly because Papa does not take a lofty or too serious approach to his methods. He’s very practical and down to Earth, and to the Angel it’s a strange pace from just shouting about the glories of their lords.

~It is a deep and dangerous path of thought they go through together. Papa manages to make everything seem so... logical. So natural that the Angel should be curious and question their own intentions in coming down here. That their blind faith and devotion isn’t typical.

~Papa knows he has won the game when the Angel asks to come back for more discussions. That’s the first sign of doubt in their voice about their whole existence. And doubt is the first step to freedom.

Papa III:

~This absolute mad man has had many conversations with Angels and priests before. You’d be shocked at the fact that he has PARTIED with lower ranking angels and has had DINNER with many devoted Clergy from the other side.

~He finds the irony that an Angel of Death, a high ranking being, coming to see him absolutely delicious and wants to milk the whole encounter for what it’s worth. Whether that value be a new friend, powerful ally, or just a night of entertainment. Either way, he’s curious enough to bite!

~Some might view him like his dad, thinking Papa is stupid and vapid enough to just openly talk about the Ministry Agenda and machinations- but he’s very very smart. Papa likes to just talk of the shallow stuff and a few ideals to gauge the Angel’s reactions.

~When the Angel lets its guard down and shows INTEREST a new game has suddenly emerged, and Papa is eager to play. Can he convert this deadly and powerful being into letting it’s wings go and join them?

~Honeyed words can go far, but not as far as making someone understand painful truths. Papa manages to convince the Angel that they are just a pawn- a tool. The Angel, whether they fall or not, leaves their encounter with a lot of doubt in their faith. Papa is anxiously awaiting to see them again for the stunning conclusion of this new drama!

Cardinal Copia/Papa IV:

~This is Copia’s first time in EVER directly dealing with an angelic being. Granted, as a previous Cardinal, he always heard rumors of how the Papas would sometimes make contact with them. But as a newly instated AntiPope he now knows that he could be directly involved with Angels! Almost doesn’t know how to feel.

~Imagine his surprise when the first Angel he ever encounters first hand IS THE ANGEL OF DEATH! Copia is so shocked on the inside, but manages to keep his composure. He approaches the Angel like he would any wayward soul looking for guidence.

~That doesn’t mean he isn’t cautious. It wouldn’t do to just make himself or his Ministry vulnerable by running his mouth or letting his guard down. He insists the Angel and him walk outside, preferably in neutral territory.

~Copia and the Angel have a very nice, long talk. Copia is the same charming, personable, if not awkward man he is with his followers. Unfortunately, for the angel, that leaves his companion’s defenses down. The angel ends up being more susceptible to their curiosity and it turns into a rabbit hole of why souls willingly embrace Lucifer.

~Lucifer was an Angel first, Copia points out in the end. And that gives the Angel MUCH to think about.

#the band ghost #ghost bc #Ghost headcanon #papa nihil #papa emeritus i #Papa Emeritus II #papa emeritus iii #papa emeritus iv #cardinal copia

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silvertonguedgod-archived · 6 years

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that au that is basically gonna be canon on my dream blog where loki and dream actually get to fuckin live for once

we fix the broken narrative || accepting || @sinnhelmingr

1. Begging on his knees for his freedom was nowhere near the most humiliating thing Loki has ever done; he is a trickster by title and a fool by trope, and he values his life as much as the next person. He owed it to himself to at least try to barter mercy before staining the Lord Shaper’s halls with his own blood, if only as a courtesy to the spirits who would be cleaning up the mess. He never really expected Dream to... actually... give him his freedom. And in exchange for what? A promise? An undefined favor later on? A life in return for words from a liar’s tongue?

2. Pressing his luck was the next logical step for a creature like Loki --- without truly knowing the stakes, a double or nothing gamble as possible as anything else. Loki offers another of these nebulous promises, and Dream grants him sanctuary, and Loki spends months wondering when the axe is going to fall and Morpheus is going to realize what a terrible mistake he has made letting Odin’s enemy stay in his house. He thinks, perhaps, that the moment has come, when Odin appears at the Gates of Horn. He prepares himself in the ways he knows how. He will not return to the cave, to the serpent, to the chains made from the body of his own child; he will die before Odin takes and binds him again.

He wonders later --- at what point did Morpheus decide that a Deceiver was worth lying for?

3. It is three years until Loki touches Dream’s hand, in the aftermath of an ancient loss only now tearing this cold and Endless father asunder --- a gesture blessed by Loki’s wary daughter, and a leap of faith that he knows he must make now. They are cautious around each other, gentle. Over the space of decades, of centuries, they grow into each other, like twin trees winding skyward together, slow and deliberate, lifting each other, learning to cling to each other without fear or mistrust. They are friends first, and then they are something more, and then they are lovers, and then they understand that the other will be the last person they ever take to bed. They understand that this is the promise Loki had made all those years ago, kneeling in desperation; the only favor Dream could ask is the one that Loki already gives of his own accord. They are fathers to a single child, the seventh of Loki’s brood, the second of Dream’s. Dream teaches his toddler to feed pigeons, and Njola takes one home. They understand that this is happiness.

4. They understand, also, that the will of the Three can be delayed, but it cannot be thwarted. Or if it can be thwarted, then that defiance will not be without consequence.

Hel must win her battle against Asgard and the king who murdered, enslaved, and imprisoned the family of a man he had once called kin, who tortured that same kinsman. Hel must have vengeance for her caging and the long centuries she suffered believing that her family had abandoned her. Odin must die. And for Odin to die, Loki must die as well. This is true, whether Hel likes it or not.

And oh, she does not, for what will he be when he comes to her hall? Baldr weathered death with grace, but perhaps he had been an anomaly. It does not matter. Her father will die to seal her victory, and he will not be dissuaded from this.

Hel bears a blade on the battlefield, a gift from her stepfather; she wears armor that glints in the light of the stars and the fire her army bears, a gift from her lover; she wears a pendant on her chest, a silver ankh, a gift from her patron and her friend. Loki bears no sword of smoke and shadow. His armor and his cloak are made of starlight and the space between, void and fire mingling in him the way they do in Njola. From her, too young to understand the nature of her aunt’s domain, he bears a token in his pocket, a talisman to bring him home --- the last gift given to a man condemned.

5. Njola, raven-haired, is the daughter of one of the Seven and a dead god. She is Njola, Princess of Dreams, Queen of Cinder. She is tall and she is strong, with cheekbones and a nose that could cut glass, onyx eyes with starlight on them. She is merry as her papa, whose laughter still fills the halls of the Dreaming and who no longer fears pain and binding; she is stern and demanding as her dad, who no longer harbors fantasies of following Death into eternity. She is a charming headache, an intoxicating force of nature, the sum total of her parents’ adoration for each other and for her, of their better parts.

Ragnarok is over and the new world has forgotten the name of Loki. They have forgotten Jormungandr and Fenrir, Vali and Narvi, Sleipnir. They all, forgotten by mortals, are dead in the way that gods are dead. They dwell in the halls of Hel, and Loki himself in the halls of Dream. Loki meets Hel’s children --- all seven --- and favors Eldr, who is neither girl nor boy; Logi, with a tongue as crisp and stinging as the fire for which he is named. He is there to watch, to be father and grandfather, to revel in the healing of his fractured family.

This is his vengeance.

#long post #| ship: people dream of what you and me have found effortlessly || (loki/morpheus)#| v: sometimes crooked is better than straight || (myth)#sinnhelmingr

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