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[nekropsii]

What do you think about Latula x Porrim?

Literally the most gravely underrated thing ever. I view them as moirails, personally. They feel very... Very deeply PaleRom. Very healthily PaleRom, at that.

People really look at the fact that Porrim is the only person who we see not only recognize Latula's cool girl persona, but realize it's born out of genuine mental illness... And Latula feels comfortable enough around her to mostly drop it and be vulnerable around her. And they don't go insane about that on impact? They don't go prompt critical? What the fuck. There's so much depth happening there. There's so much implication. I need 500 more hours of whatever they fuck they have going on. And the fact that this is such an uncommon pairing despite being right fucking there is so, so deeply frustrating, because, like... You're telling me with a straight face that Kankri/Cronus is more popular than this? There's literally nothing there. There's fucking nothing. They're literally just two completely insufferable misogynistic ableist guys who looked at each other for 5 seconds. All Kankri did was enable Cronus being shitty and a liar because Kankri is a bootlicker. Literally all that scene was doing is showing why he got so uppity about the term "Wader"- by definition, he literally is one. That scene didn't mean anything other than "these two suck- here's why!" and people took it as ship material. Latula and Porrim are right there. Aranea and Meenah are right there. Aranea and Porrim are right there. And this isn't a ship, but no one talks about the dynamic that Meenah and Damara had during their game, either. That was so interesting!! These relationships are all so interesting!!

The well of the relationships between the women in the Alpha Troll cast is rich and deep, and yet. And yet. I may have to kill people, Anon.

[nekropsii]

im thinking about the relationship between kankri and porrim because its just so fucking WEIRD like theyre obviously important to eachother or care about eachother to some extent but we dont really know why?? like they dont seem to get along very well

she patronizes him constantly (which is VERY loaded considering they lived on fucking beforus) and ignores his boundaries (calling him patronizing nicknames he doesnt like, wiping his face while he tried to push her off) and he constantly makes insensitive bitchy bigoted comments that go against all of her values and make her angry

and theres not the same dynamic dolorosa and signless had where she raised him like theyre the same age so why do they even talk to eachother?? what is their relationship?? like were they childhood friends or something?? itd make sense if they were both a little different as kids and therefore got along better but then why do they still talk to eachother when they really dont now ITS SO WEIRD

It's... Complicated. They go way back, as far as I can tell.

The way I see it, they do not have a "Mother and Son" relationship- I find that most who assert this often place far too much maturity onto Porrim, who is literally 19 years old. It's more like an Adoptive/Found Sibling relationship between someone with a severe case of Eldest Daughter Syndrome and the social conditioning of a higher-end Midblood on Beforus, and someone with a chronic case of Only Child and the social conditioning of a Mutant Lime on Beforus. The relationship makes more sense to me when you view it this way. It's just... A fraught sibling relationship, formed under societal pressures we can't even fathom. Porrim Maryam, trained by society to cull those beneath her, trying hard not to, and for the most succeeding outside of someone very close to her, and Kankri Vantas, culled and isolated his whole life, becoming a total suck-up to the deeply misogynistic, ableist, hemoloyal culling system as both a method of self defense and as a wielding of the only weapon he really knows. It was used against him all the time, and it works, doesn't it? If sucking up to Able-Bodied Male Highbloods and ridiculing everyone beneath that golden standard is the best way to ensure safety, then he's gonna do it. He's essentially a lifelong voter for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

Ultimately, I think what keeps Porrim by his side is that... I think she believes in him. It's like watching yourself lose your sibling to the Alt-Right Pipeline. I think she thinks he doesn't actually believe most of what he's saying, and that this is all deeply reflexive. She's smart enough to recognize the real systemic issues at play here, and that he's essentially caught in chains between 5 different machines that all want him dead. And she's right. When you actually read the shit Kankri's saying, it becomes almost immediately apparent that he's spouting bullshit, and that he absolutely knows this. I think what keeps Kankri by her side is that he knows she cares about him. There isn't any denying it. She might infringe on boundaries, or be generally annoying to him, and keeps doing that frustrating little thing called seeing through his and everyone else's bullshit and calling them out on it- not just including but especially his- but she cares. I think he knows that at the end of all things what he'd have left is her. Is this to say that if you got Kankri to grow a spine and genuinely believe in things that aren't spoonfeedings of the latest Conservative Highblood Talking Point/Psy-Op, he'd be a good person? Hell no. No way. He has a raging savior complex and is way too eager to throw other people under the bus and insult/ridicule them to their faces. He's an asshole. Just completely slimy.

But, again, sibling relationships know no bounds. This kind of dynamic just feels so... Realistic to me. The way their relationship is so strained but still so strong and ongoing just feels so human. I don't know. This is pretty meandering, I just think about them a lot.

[nekropsii]

We all love Vrisrezi, but do you think Aranea and Latula have chemestry in some quadrant?

Unfortunately, no. Absolutely not. They represent a break in a cycle, and have a completely neutral relationship where both parties are uninterested in any romance or even friendship developing. Latula finds Aranea boring, and Aranea… Sees her as Inspiration Porn, so… Yeah, probably better nothing’s pursued. The chemistry is next to none, even if they had interest in each other. I can’t think of anything particularly interesting to read coming of that, I can’t imagine any character development, nothing. It’d just feel empty, and like a Pyrope/Serket relationship for the sake of a Pyrope/Serket relationship.

There’s a whole conversation between Porrim and Latula about the fact that the Pyropes and Serkets tend to have storied relationships, actually, and the fact that Latula and Aranea are the exception.

This is leagues more interesting than Obligatory Pyrope/Serket Relationship to me. That’s just my personal take, though.

[nekropsii]

[Firing a gunshot into the air.]

Porrim was correct about misogyny on Beforus, and if you agree with Kankri’s assertion that it isn’t real, then you’ve missed the point. If you reduce her down to how many people she's slept with, you've missed the point. If you reduce her down to her looks, you've missed the point.

If you call her a MILF despite the fact that she is literally Nineteen Fucking Years Old, then congratulations on being weirder about women than Andrew fucking Hussie is.

[nekropsii]

Do you think that maybe when we canonly see Porrim, that she's the only one not stuck in the past, is probably because she didn't accept her classpect in the game because of Beforus, who would have been gone at this point? I know it can get frustrating when you're essentially trapped with a lot of people who don't really move on. But idk.

I definitely think her general normalcy has to do with her nature as a Maid of Space, yeah. The class of Maid directly implies a very complex, multi-stage character arc, and I think having that kind of experience with exploring herself lended her to being able to retain some sanity and sense of self. She’s satisfied.

She figured out how to be her own person separate from the ideals and whims of others, which isn’t something most of the other Alpha Trolls can say. At the end of the day, their biggest poison isn’t the time they’ve spent in the bubbles, but each other. They’re all fucking terrible for each other, and they always have been, time is just highlighting the issue. Porrim’s general independence isn’t stopping her from being a flawed person, but it is stopping her from ending up like Kankri or Horuss.

[nekropsii]

hi hello, i would like to know how porrim is going to be lame (in a positive way) in soverignstuck. i usually see people make her Super Uber Cool and i am kinda bored of that. so i am intrigued by her being lame

Oh god, yeah. She hardly gets a personality outside of hot, confident MILF slut. (MILF?!?!) Nothing inherently wrong with any of those traits, but it gets… Boring…

Like… Haven’t you heard? Attractive, Confident Woman = Totally Cool And Flawless, All The Time Forever.

Anyways… Porrim gets to be lame in Sovereignstuck, too, by virtue of being a person who is alive and can have character traits. Everyone on Earth in the history of ever is a little lame. Here’s a tiny little list of a few “lame” traits of hers:

Huge on DIY and crafting. Knitting is her poison of choice, however, and she tends to knit her loved ones things to show that she cares. Can get passive aggressive about it, though.

Avid Pinterest user. It shows. She saw this on Pinterest once.

Has Eldest Daughter Syndrome. This is where she gets her “Mom Friend” demeanor. It gives her a lot of issues.

Actually pretty offline, which is a good thing. Unfortunately, this results in her not really “getting” memes. She talks like she’s 40.