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ultimateshixiongfuckertournament · 3 months

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THIRD PLACE ROUND - Jiang Cheng vs Wen Kexing

The battle for third place is between Jiang Cheng (shixiong: Wei Wuxian) from Mo Dao Zu Shi and Wen Kexing (shixiong: Zhou Zishu) from Word of Honor

Propaganda under the cut

Wen Kexing:

(okay so the canon part is confusing. cause wenzhou are officially canon in Faraway Wanderers and are censored bromance in Word of Honor. but they're only shixiong/shidi in Word of Honor and not in Faraway Wanderers. so idk what you want to do in regards to the canonicity of their relationship)

I mean Wen Kexing is all over Zhou Zishu from day 1, though he has very complicated emotions surrounding the whole shixiong/shidi element to their relationship, he does eventually declare himself as the second disciple of Shiji Manor and publicly acknowledges Zhou Zishu as his shixiong. anyways if you know anything about Wen Kexing you know how desperately he wants Zhou Zishu, even the censorship couldn't hide the fact that Wen Kexing wants to rail Zhou Zishu to kingdom come

the utter simp that is WKX for his ZZS? No contest. None. None at all.

#WKX now actually fucked his shixiong like pls the entire book/show is about him wanting to get with him

#WKX hands down wanna fck or get fcked by his “Ah-Xu~” from day 1

#y'all have the audacity. as if Wen Kexing did baby trap is shixiong with TWO kids

Jiang Cheng:

Clinged to WWX constantly for 7+ years, wanted to have WWX as his right hand man forever after becoming sect leader, cried after WWX left, cried when he discovered what WWX sacrificed for him, was TORN APART when it got explained to him that if they were more outwardly close knit, WWX might not have died

PROPAGANDA!! to start, i'm still very bitter about how fairy lost the sentient animal poll and i want to win this badly. very very badly. current stats are 50.6 in favour of jc but that's too less of a gap for me. jc should be winning this by a landslide, y'all hear me? anyways. starting with a class act, like the clown i am->

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a few links ( because i'm chengxian trash, as always and i'd love if poll-guy could copy paste them on the og post): one, two, three, four (gif), five, six, seven (gif), eight (thoughts on different wavelengths), the absolute circles of them saving each other, the fucking golden core reveal scene. golden scene reveal part 2, jiang cheng will always forgive wei wuxian

to start with. jiang cheng is literally the picture of "i knew from the moment i met you that i'd spend a lifetime forgiving you".

the earliest dynamic of jiang cheng and wei wuxian is jiang cheng giving away his dogs (the only gift his father has ever given him, btw) because wei wuxian is scared of the dogs. tis only the start of it.

his father very obviously prefers his shixiong over him, his mother berates him for not being as good as wei wuxian and tells him his inheritance is in danger, and his sister (in my opinion) has more care for him (visibly. maybe jiang yanli doesn't show it because jc is an emotionally complicated purple grape, maybe because jc doesn't need it, or wei wuxian is traumatised but that's my opinion). but still. still. Jiang Cheng loves Wei Wuxian. so much. jealousy is like. the most tame response i can think of. and jiang cheng is proud of wei wuxian, okay? he'd believe his big brother if he'd said anything. want proof? well, here you go-> link

to paraphrase the link:

Jiang Cheng had just lost his family, his home, and his very golden core, and his older brother - his brilliant older brother who could fix anything, who could sneak wine into Cloud Recesses and defeat an ancient turtle nearly-god and make Jiang Cheng share a smile when Jiang Cheng’s mother was disappointed and furious at both of them - His big brother smiled and said, “I can fix this.”And Jiang Cheng believed him then, and believed him three months later when Wei Wuxian crawled out of the Burial Mounds (just the second miracle in three months), and believed him every day of the next seventeen(?) years until the pieces were shoved into place for him to see.

also. the circle these two go in protecting each other. (gif set by @sandushengshou), the 'if one of us is to die, then, i beg, let it be me' that they both do for one another in a seemingly neverending loop of sacrifice. via this post a la my lovely @backtoyunmeng

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jiang cheng is a cannonically ruined woman archetype, justified via the countless posts you'll get in the top posts of jiang cheng tag. he keeps chenqing, wwx's flute in perfect condition even when he hates wei wuxian, even when wwx, if only indirectly, has a part in jiang yanli's murder and oof okay someone pointed out to him that he's known to have killed wei wuxian and he almost cries. he absolutely believes, with his whole heart, that wei wuxian lives even when the world is sure he doesnt. and it always read to me like, i'd know if he was dead. he's a part of my soul, so i'd know if he was dead. he can't be dead.

this is getting too long, so, to sum up, some absolute poetry by @jiangchengsjawline

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#JC On The Other Hand Has His Entire Life Shaped By His Shixiong And Ended Up Cast As The Ruined Woman By The End

#jiang cheng though. wasn't able to fuck his shixiong but his shixiong definitely fucked with him

#hello?? the answer is Jiang cheng pls#he's the shixiongfucker or all shixiong fucker you wish you could be as pathetically in love with your shixiong as he is#chengxian

#i do not go here (chengxian) but the propaganda is incredibly correct they are insane abt each other#also sorry jiang cheng ik you're suffering but they are so funny to me#neway VOTE JIANG CHENG FOR CLEAR SKIN

#look I rarely go here#(here being chengxian)#but by GOD their lvoe compels me#they’re tragic and doomed and they love each other without knowing how to say it in words the other would understand#or in words at all because communication??? we don’t know her???

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he didn't even think about sacrificing himself, and consequently his entire bloodline, his sect, pretty much everything that depends on him for his shixiong??????????

is this not convincing->

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#had to vote jc though i have more feelings about chengxian#i think jc should have a huge gege kink

#like. jiang cheng should win the entire tournament hands down period

#jiang cheng#is the only correct answer in my gay little brain#i’m sure everyone else’s shixiong fuckers are great too#but jiang cheng is MY favorite#tumblr polls#mdzs#if chengxian fucked in canon it would make everything about their situation at least 65% less complicated you can’t change my mind

#jiang cheng #wei wuxian #mo dao zu shi #mdzs #the untamed #chengxian #wen kexing #zhou zishu #word of honor #tian ya ke #wenzhou #priest vs mxtx

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web-novel-polls · 4 months

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Favorite WN Women Tournament [Completed]

Last Updated: July 28th, 2024

Submissions (shows propaganda submitted) - closed

Full Character List + Characters without propaganda/images

Type of Tournament: Single Elimination

Tournament Tag: #favorite wn women tournament

Expected Start/End: May 24th - July 28th, 2024

Posting Time: 5 pm CST

Tournament Statistics: #wn women statistics

Upcoming

Bonus Polls

Least Voted For: July 29th-August 5th

Completed

Bonus Polls

Baihe: July 2nd-9th

MXTX: July 4th-11th

ORV: July 13th-20th

Priest: July 17th-24th

Other Danmei: July 20th-27th

Round 1

Group A: May 24th-31st, 2024 (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 1: Yushi Huang vs. Song Qiutong - Winner: Yushi Huang

Match 2: Yoo Sangah vs. Fu Wanqing - Winner: Yoo Sangah

Match 3: Ye Wangxi vs. Qiyan Nomin/A-Die - Winner: Ye Wangxi

Match 4: Li Xian vs. Zhao Qindan - Winner: Li Xian

Group B: May 25th-June 1st (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 5: Liu Qianqiao vs. Murong Mengze - Winner: Liu Qianqiao

Match 6: Qiyan Agula vs. Hannah - Winner: Qiyan Agula

Match 7: Lin Wanyue vs. Chu Yue - Winner: Lin Wanyue

Match 8: Feng Xiaoshu vs. Mu Nihuang - Winner: Mu Nihuang

Group C: May 26th-June 2nd (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 9: Liu Mingyan vs. Grand Princess Liyang - Winner: Liu Mingyan

Match 10: Bai Rong vs. Jung Heewon - Winner: Jung Heewon

Match 11: Mary vs. Christelle de Sarnez - Winner: Mary

Match 12: Mianmian vs. Zhou Fei - Winner: Luo Qingyang

Group D: May 27th-June 3rd (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 13: Uriel vs. Li Yanru - Winner: Uriel

Match 14: Jian Lan vs. Qi Zhuyin - Winner: Jian Lan

Match 15: Kim Seyun vs. Baili Qingmiao - Winner: Baili Qingmiao

Match 16: Sha Hualing vs. Su Qingluan - Winner: Sha Hualing

Group E: May 28th-June 4th (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 17: A-Qing vs. Wei Chengxiang - Winner: A-Qing

Match 18: Ryu Seol vs. Youqin - Winner: Youqin

Match 19: Lin Jingshu vs. Son Moa - Winner: Lin Jingshu

Match 20: Isella Evans vs. Frédérique Riester - Winner: Frédérique Riester

Group F: May 29th-June 5th (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 21: Carynne Heier vs. Consort Jing - Winner: Consort Jing

Match 22: Gu Xiang vs. Nagsi Jiya - Winner: Gu Xiang

Match 23: Qu Qing Ju vs. Ling Wen - Winner: Ling Wen

Match 24: Manman vs. Jang Hayoung - Winner: Jang Hayoung

Group G: May 30th-June 6th (5:20-5:35 pm)

Match 25: Lee Sookyung vs. Han Sooyoung - Winner: Han Sooyoung

Match 26: Nangong Jingnu vs. Mansha - Winner: Nangong Jingnu

Match 27: Lang Qiao vs. Lee Jihye - Winner: Lee Jihye

Match 28: Olivia Lanze vs. Iseol Yu - Winner: Yu Iseol

Group H: May 31st-June 7th (5:20-5:35 pm)

Match 29: Hua Xiangyi vs. Shu Yanyan - Winner: Shu Yanyan

Match 30: Nangong Shunu vs. Ning Yingying - Winner: Ning Yingying

Match 31: Qiu Congxue vs. Wen Qing - Winner: Wen Qing

Match 32: Jiang Yanli vs. Su Xiyan - Winner: Su Xiyan

Round 2

Group A: June 8th-15th (5-5:15 pm)

Match 33: Yushi Huang vs. Yoo Sangah - Winner: Yushi Huang

Match 34: Ye Wangxi vs. Li Xian - Winner: Ye Wangxi

Match 35: Liu Qianqiao vs. Qiyan Agula - Winner: Qiyan Agula

Match 36: Lin Wanyue vs. Mu Nihuang - Winner: Mu Nihuang

Group B: June 10th-17th (5-5:15 pm)

Match 37: Liu Mingyan vs. Jung Heewon - Winner: Liu Mingyan

Match 38: Mary vs. Mianmian - Winner: Mianmian

Match 39: Uriel vs. Jian Lan - Winner: Uriel

Match 40: Baili Qingmiao vs. Sha Hualing - Winner: Sha Hualing

Group C: June 12th-19th (5-5:15 pm)

Match 41: A-Qing vs. Youqin - Winner: A-Qing

Match 42: Lin Jingshu vs. Frédérique Riester - Winner: Frédérique Riester

Match 43: Consort Jing vs. Gu Xiang - Winner: Consort Jing

Match 44: Ling Wen vs. Jang Hayoung - Winner: Ling Wen

Group D: June 14th-21st (5:20-5:35 pm)

Match 45: Han Sooyoung vs. Nangong Jingnu - Winner: Han Sooyoung

Match 46: Lee Jihye vs. Yu Iseol - Winner: Lee Jihye

Match 47: Shu Yanyan vs. Ning Yingying - Winner: Ning Yingying

Match 48: Wen Qing vs. Su Xiyan - Winner: Wen Qing

Round 3

Group A: June 22nd-29th (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 49: Yushi Huang vs. Ye Wangxi - Winner: Yushi Huang

Match 50: Qiyan Agula vs. Mu Nihuang - Winner: Qiyan Agula

Match 51: Liu Mingyan vs. Mianmian - Winner: Liu Mingyan

Match 52: Uriel vs. Sha Hualing - Winner: Sha Hualing

Group B: June 24th-July 1st (6:00-6:15 pm)

Match 53: A-Qing vs. Frédérique Riester - Winner: A-Qing

Match 54: Consort Jing vs. Ling Wen - Winner: Ling Wen

Match 55: Han Sooyoung vs. Lee Jihye - Winner: Han Sooyoung

Match 56: Ning Yingying vs. Wen Qing - Winner: Wen Qing

Round 4 / Quarterfinals: July 3rd-10th (5:00-5:15 pm)

Match 57: Yushi Huang vs. Qiyan Agula - Winner: Yushi Huang

Match 58: Liu Mingyan vs. Sha Hualing - Winner: Liu Mingyan

Match 59: A-Qing vs. Ling Wen - Winner: Ling Wen

Match 60: Han Sooyoung vs. Wen Qing - Winner: Han Sooyoung

Round 5 / Semifinals: July 12th-19th (5:00-5:05 pm)

Match 61: Yushi Huang vs. Liu Mingyan - Winner: Yushi Huang

Match 62: Ling Wen vs. Han Sooyoung - Winner: Han Sooyoung

Finals: July 21st-28th (5 pm)

Match 63: Yushi Huang vs. Han Sooyoung - Winner: Han Sooyoung

Third Place: Liu Mingyan vs. Ling Wen - TIED

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Character List

Baihe

Fu Wanqing from The Beauty’s Blade

Lin Wanyue form Female General and Eldest Princess

Li Yanru from Clear and Muddy Loss of Love

Li Xian from Female General and Eldest Princess

Mansha from Female General and Eldest Princess

Nagsi Jiya from Clear and Muddy Loss of Love

Nangong Jingnu from Clear and Muddy Loss of Love

Nangong Shunu from Clear and Muddy Loss of Love

Qiyan Agula from Clear and Muddy Loss of Love

Qiyan Nomin/A-Die from Clear and Muddy Loss of Love

Youqin from Female General and Eldest Princess

MXTX

A-Qing from Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation

Jiang Yanli from Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation

Jian Lan from Heaven Official’s Blessing

Ling Wen from Heaven Official’s Blessing [Tied for 3rd Place]

Liu Mingyan from The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System [Tied for 3rd Place]

Mianmian (Luo Qingyang) from Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation

Ning Yingying from The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System

Sha Hualing from The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System

Su Xiyan from The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System

Wen Qing from Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation

Yushi Huang from Heaven Official’s Blessing [2nd Place]

Priest

Feng Xiaoshu from Lord Seventh

Gu Xiang from Faraway Wanderers

Lang Qiao from Mo Du / Silent Reading

Lin Jingshu from Can Ci Pin

Liu Qianqiao from Faraway Wanderers

Manman from Youyi / Itinerant Doctor

Su Qingluan from Lord Seventh

Wei Chengxiang from Tai Sui

Zhao Qindan from Tai Sui

Other Danmei

Baili Qingmiao from Devil Venerable Also Wants to Know

Bai Rong from Thousand Autumns

Chu Yue from Global Examination

Hua Xiangyi from Qiang Jin Jiu

Murong Mengze from Remnants of Filth

Shu Yanyan from Devil Venerable Also Wants to Know

Song Qiutong from The Husky and His White Cat Shizun

Qiu Congxue from Devil Venerable Also Wants to Know

Qi Zhuyin from Qiang Jin Jiu

Ye Wangxi from The Husky and His White Cat Shizun

ORV / Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint

Han Sooyoung from Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint [Tournament Winner]

Jang Hayoung from Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint

Jung Heewon from Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint

Lee Jihye from Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint

Lee Sookyung from Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint

Uriel from Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint

Yoo Sangah from Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint

Other

Carynne Heier from Resetting Lady

Christelle de Sarnez from When the Third Wheel Strikes Back

Consort Jing from Nirvana in Fire

Frédérique Riester from When the Third Wheel Strikes Back

Grand Princess Liyang from Nirvana in Fire

Hannah from Lout of the Count’s Family

Isella Evans from Resetting Lady

Kim Seyun from My School Life Pretending to be a Worthless Person

Mary from Lout of the Count’s Family

Mu Nihuang from Nirvana in Fire

Olivia Lanze from The Demon Prince Goes to the Academy

Qu Qing Ju from To Be a Virtuous Wife

Ryu Seol from Best Teacher Baek

Son Moa from I Stole the Number One Ranker’s Soul

Yu Iseol from Return of Mount Hua Sect

Zhou Fei from Bandits

#not a poll #masterposts #favorite wn women tournament #my posts

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juiceedapplee · 2 months

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Likes:

-Games-

Stardew Valley

Roblox (royale high, bloxburg, dti, bloxy bingo)

Pjsk

Omori

Genshin Impact

Hsr

Sprout Valley

Dol

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-YouTubers-

Niji en

Holostars en

Vshojo

Rin Penrose

Kenji

Monarch

Cyyu

Yuzuya

Azeru

Boze vs the world

Smii7y

Kurtis Conner

Danny Gonzalez

Augustheduck

Andy king

Chad chad

Annamarie

Manlybadasshero

Jarvis

Game theory (film, food, and style too)

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-Musicals-

Be more chill

Beetlejuice

Kinky boots

Heathers (both vers are good, west end might be my fav)

Mean girls

Into the woods (the old one is better)

Hamilton

Bring it on

Tgwdlm

Black Friday

Npmd

The Oregon trail

—

-Shows/Movies-

Jjk

Mha

Nanbaka

Haikyuu

Blue Lock

Ohshc

Chainsaw Man

Mob Psycho

Black Butler

Hxh

Bridgerton

The boyfriend

Great teacher onizuka

Secrets in the hot spring

Scott pilgrim vs the world (movie, haven’t seen the show yet)

Trolls band together (got me crushing on a damn troll)

The Lorax

Drink masters

Death note

Saiki K

Saiki K: reawakened

Disenchantment

Mlp movies

Glitter force (I watched it on Netflix, dont know the jp name)

Kakegurui

Everything everywhere all at once

High rise invasion

Legally blonde (both movies)

Hsm (only the first two)

Cruella

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-Books-

Tcgf (still reading)

Mxtx (still reading)

Mdzs (still reading)

Svss (still reading)

Remarried Empress

Southern book clubs guide to slaying vampires

Alice in wonderland

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-BL-

Boy girlfriend (damn you axel)

Jinx

Perfect Buddy

Shutline

Love leveling

Angel Buddy

Roses and Champagne

Full volume

Semantic Error

Night by the sea

Love Jinx

No love zone

Killing Stalking

Obey me (not the game)

Dangerous Convenience Store

Serious Joke

No Holes Barred (includes a woman, and it’s technically not a bl)

Something’s wrong with my popularity

My darling signed in

Candy Man

Eyes clouded by the tiger

I have to be a good villain

Easy to notice

Kill the lights

Define the relationship

Take off

Angel bunny club

Puppy Love

Shame application

Omega Complex

Mr 100% perfect

Plaything

Don’t say you love me

Love is an illusion

Worst guy in the universe

Attack and Occupy (dropped cuz holy shit)

My hot friend is glowing

Hwanghyeon Text

Dear Door

Jackass

No reason

Raising a newbie to grind them

Galatea through the screen

—

-Manhwa/webtoons/manhua/manga-

Get schooled/ true education

How to live as a villain

Dungeon reset

Home plate villain

Leveling up by only eating

For my derelict favorite

Eleceed

Trash Count

I obtained a mythic item

World after the fall

Zombie x Slasher

Solo Max level newbie

End of the world is just a game

Duke pendragon

Steel eating player

Dungeon Odyssey

Tyrant of a defense game

Priest of corruption

Lady with one line

Everyone regressed but me

Beginning after the end

S-classes I raised

Bootleg Healer

Teenage Mercenary

Only necromancer

Money Game

Pie Game

+99 wooden stick

Talent eating magician

Max Level Hero has returned

Overpowered healer

Worlds strongest troll

Pick me up

Lazy swordmaster

Resetting lady

Debut or die

Tbate (I haven’t read the chapters from the new artist)

School bus graveyard

Hwarang: flower knight of the underworld

My brothers not so secret boyfriend

Jungle Juice

Disgusted Vampire

I was the final boss

Mono and Mochi

Hectopascal

Viral Hit

Solo Leveling

Solo Leveling Ragnarok

Orv

Villain to Kill

Cinderella Boy

Tax reaper

Deathsitter

Magic Girl Incident

Marry my husband

Return survival

Study Group

Hectopascal

Neon Revenge (I’m still sad it ended so early)

Weak Hero

Becoming the Monarch

Maru is a puppy

My little sister is the demon lord

Mafia Nanny

Hanlim Gym

Return to Player

Paranoid Mage

Born to work retail

World is money and Power

The dickheads

Jackson’s diary

Silho

Ams

Mayo Shonen

My daddy is a villain

Nina’s chest

G.O.D

Swordid

Kids are all right

Class 1-9

Dungeon cleaning life of a once genius hunter

Like mother like daughter

Bad plan man

Forever after

Les piggies

The hammer

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aworldforastage · 2 years

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2023 "To Read" List [updating]

This is less of a "to read" list that I'm try to work through and more of a compilation of recommendations that I find interesting. Definitely something that would likely be longer rather shorter by end of the year.

My current plan is to add and rearrange new titles as needed, but new additions will be annotated [NEW]. If I finish a title in 2023 , I can cross it off (yay dopamine!) and keep it on the list, because recording that once in my reading log list just isn't enough.

Titles in each category are roughly arranged for "priority," like, very roughly.

Historical & Wuxia

Probably my favorite genre, dating back to my childhood watching period dramas growing up in China. Sometimes I want to wrack my brains figuring out all the details in intricate political plots. Sometimes I want to escape to a fantastical adventures with swords and long-flowing robes. I love everything here.

杀破狼 priest -- Sha Po Lang -- Part of me is like trying to "save" this fic for when I feel like I invest sufficient attention and emotion in it, since it's like one of the most recommended titles in my favorite genre.

无双梦溪石 -- Peerless

乱世为王顾雪柔 --To Rule in a Turbulent World -- [finished about 2/5 and paused]

一剑霜寒语笑阑珊 -- A Sword of Frost -- this title is one of the first overwhelming recommendations I got when I started reading danmei, but somehow I still haven't read anything by this author

暴君[重生] 漫漫何其多

江湖遍地是奇葩语笑阑珊 -- Everywhere in Jianghu is Wonderful

督主有病杨溯 -- Governor’s Illness

帝王攻略语笑阑珊 -- The Emperor's Stratagem

山有木兮非天夜翔 -- Shan You Mu Xi -- Can't help but be curious after Joyful Reunion

鹰奴非天夜翔 -- Yingnu

江东双璧非天夜翔 -- Twin Jades of Jiangdong

逐王水千丞 -- The Blood Crown

Xianxia & Historical Fantasy

I think of Xianxia as my "home" in danmei, since I started in the genre with mxtx books, but since you need to keep track of the fantasy world building components as well as the historical ones, most of these are not easy reads you can sneak in for a quick break during busy days.

六爻 priest

余污肉包不吃肉 -- I have been told this is not a bad way to get a sense of Meatbun's style without committing to the monstrosity (wordcount-wise) that is 2Ha

魔尊也想知道青色羽翼 -- Devil Venerable Also Wants to Know -- [1/10 progress, paused]

天宝伏妖录非天夜翔 -- Tianbao Fuyao Lu

定海浮生录非天夜翔 -- Dinghai Fusheng Records

二哈和他的白猫师尊肉包不吃肉

南禅唐酒卿

铜钱龛世木苏里

剑名不奈何淮上

桃花债大风刮过

如意蛋大风刮过

琢玉墨书白

折枝困倚危楼

Actors/Celebrities

I find this genre very easy to read because they share many of the same world-building elements, and I enjoy themes of balancing public vs private identities, which all of us do to some extent in our daily lives.

台风眼潭石

营业悖论稚楚

2401 功夫包子

明日星程金刚圈

内娱第一花瓶三三娘

空降热搜颜凉雨

��设之王娜可��露

Modern (General)

Includes genres like mystery, E-sports, romance, etc. I may have the highest expectation of this genres because it's too easy for it to feel "not real enough"

AWM[绝地求生] 漫漫何其多-- AWM[PUBG] -- [In progress 1/10] The most recommended E-sports novel, to the extent I feel bad I didn't start with this one.

火焰戎装水千丞 -- Blazing Armor

燎原不问三九-- [In progress 3/5] "Mature men in love," fans say.

纸飞机潭石

过门 Priest

皮囊潭石

附加遗产水千丞 -- supposedly one of the best 188 novels in terms of quality,

犯罪心理长洱 -- fun fact: I found out that for a long time before 2017, this was by far the most popular danmei on JJWXC, and it's still one of the Big Three Mystery Novels along with Modu and Poyun.

沉舟楚寒衣青 -- in progress 1/5. I'm fascinated by what appears to be the only well-know story (or just the only one left?) that focuses on elite Chinese politics, which of course, has gotten a lot less fun and safe and speculate about since then.

你的距离公子优

年花静水边

大哥 Priest

荣光[电竞] 龙柒 -- wait this has one million + words?

邪门的爱情出现了丧心病狂的瓜皮 (ABO)

Urban Fantasy, Infinity Flow & Quick Transmigration

The "Modern but with magic" or "Modern but multiple stories in one story" genre.

不要在垃圾桶里捡男朋友骑鲸南去

薄雾[无限] 微风几许

烈火浇愁 Priest

判官木苏里

纸片恋人楚寒衣青

病案本肉包不吃肉

BE狂魔求生系统稚楚

我五行缺你西子绪

步天纲梦溪石

全球高考木苏里

Science Fiction

"More in the future than Modern" or "Apocalypse".

小蘑菇一十四洲

残次品 Priest

一级律师[星际] 木苏里

不死者淮上

日落大道卡比丘

寒武再临水千丞

2013 非天夜翔

High School & Campus Romance

This is the genre I'm least likely to read, but since these titles come up in so many recommendations ....

某某木苏里

好运时间卡比丘

可爱过敏原稚楚

我喜欢你的信息素引路星

信息素说我们不可能毛球球

撒野巫哲

轻狂巫哲

Non-Danmei

三体刘慈欣

重生之将门毒后千山茶客

北城天街非天夜翔* -- I'm unsure if this should be thought of as danmei or a "serious" novel, but I've been told to brace for tears

Notes/Remarks

Science Fiction is the only genre on my list (in the beginning) that includes the original "Big Four of JJWXC": Feitian Yexiang, Shui Qian Cheng, Priest, Huai Shang, unless I also merge the two historical genres.

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weishenmewwx · 2 years

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My Danmei 耽美 Literary Adventure

Seven Seas Chinese Danmei novels, Notes Masterlist

Some of my favorite books, especially, The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, The Husky and His White Cat Shizun, Stars of Chaos, and Guardian, are now officially in English! Thank you, Seven Seas.

These notes are here to help friends who may not speak Chinese or have enough Chinese cultural background to understand the nuances presented in these works, or are just getting confused with all the different terms of address.

Please forgive me if I have missed anything, and dm or comment if you have anything to add!

魔道祖师 Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation

by MXTX

二哈和他的白猫师尊 The Husky and His White Cat ShiZun

by Meatbun 肉包不吃肉 (Rou Bao Bu Chi Rou)

Usage of the word "Master" vs "Teacher"

How to pronounce people's names (bc it does NOT follow the rules of English pronunciation)

Book Annotations

杀破狼 Stars of Chaos

by Priest

Volume 1 is up.

Volume 2 is halfway up!

镇魂 Guardian

by Priest

Coming eventually :)

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hunxi-guilai · 4 years

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Hihi! I've noticed some CQL fic recently about class conflict / revolution of the working class against an elite class of cultivators. This idea is intriguing and I think I've seen it executed well, but I also know that cultivator's practices are tied deeply to religion + Daoism so it seems like cultivators are generally pretty well respected in society. Class definitely comes forward as a theme in CQL though, and non-cultivators (e.g. Dafan Wens) clearly do suffer from the war in CQL. 1/2

2/2 I guess I'm wondering to what extent the idea of non-cultivators leading a class revolution feels like a more modern take vs smth that might conceivably happen in a historical Chinese setting. (Based on what happens with Xie Lian in the TGCF novel I feel like a class revolt might happen in MXTX's xianxia worlds at least). I know this is complex but I'd love to hear your thoughts if you're interested in this topic and care to share them. Thanks for your wonderful blog! sorry this is so longgg

hooooooo okay, okay where to begin with this

so first of all, I’m going to link you to @pumpkinpaix’s most excellent meta on class dynamics in MDZS, because she carries this fandom on her goddamn back and holds the brain cell that I certainly do not have

secondly, I’m going to re-link this post on the ahistoricity of cql, because it is, in fact, very important to me that people do not try to read CQL as a historical text in any way, shape, or form

thirdly, so, okay. before we talk about class or class conflict or the revolution of the proletariat or whatever, I want to point out that this story is 架空 jiakong -- it’s built on thin air. I make jokes about the inconsistency of the worldbuilding all the time, but I’m also a Cosmere fan with unrealistic standards for worldbuilding and at the end of the day they’re jokes. But to try and read class conflict into CQL is premised on the assumption that there’s like, a system in place that is premised on the oppression of the working class and a functional economy that keeps this society running. What is this economy? Who is this working class? Hell if I know! They pay each other with rocks spray-painted a shiny gold and we don’t question it.

oh, we can theorize all day about feudal systems of taxation and protection, or guess at the going price of evil-warding talismans, but at the end of the day, neither the author nor the showrunners felt the need to build an extensively detailed class system into this world. and why should they? that’s not the focus of the story; just the general strokes of a nebulously-familiar setting will suffice.

this isn’t to say class isn’t a major theme in CQL, since it’s literally like, the crux of Jin Guangyao’s character (again, please read that meta by @pumpkinpaix, it’s so good), but like. to talk about class conflict and revolution? feels like we need to get much further in the weeds about, like, economic structural inequality built into the fabric of this society. and to me, that feels like fumbling around in the dark, because there isn’t?? really??? a historical??? analog???? to cultivators????

look, this is xianxia. this is a fundamentally fantastic text. cultivators as a class (hah) of people amalgamate this strange chimera of Daoist priest and warrior-mercenary and landed gentry and wandering scholar that is very much a staple of the wuxia / xianxia genres, but not particularly applicable to history. so the idea of a “working class rebelling against an elite class of cultivators” simply does not have a handy historical analogue to point at because cultivators--in the form of this structured, organized, jianghu sect hierarchy--did not exist???

(honestly, the closest counterpart I can think of is--hilariously--season 1 of The Legend of Korra, which attempts to deal with the societal inequality of benders and non-benders. but like. does Korra handle that well? anyway)

and before anyone tries to make the argument that the cultivational sects map onto the imperial government--they do not. They simply Do Not. If you think so, then you have not confronted the Bureaucratic Majesty/Nightmare of imperial Chinese government.

here’s the thing about most wuxia / xianxia / Chinese period dramas as a whole--they’re never actually about the “common people.” Your main character is always going to be the member of some elite class, or marry into the elite class, or have Magical Powers Conferred Upon Them and thereby become elite. The genre is simply uninterested in the dynamics of class beyond its effects on a character’s backstory. The reality of it is simply that working class life in ancient China rarely gets made into 50-episode dramas. At the very least, I’ve never seen one.

if we want to look at peasant rebellions in Chinese history, they are often about changing the people in positions of power rather than the systems that impose said power. The dynastic system lasted for millennia because every time there was a successful uprising, the people who led that revolution proceeded to put themselves in the positions of power in that very same system, and the one time the revolution led to a systemic change in governance--

I will never be paid enough to talk about 20th century Chinese history, but if you’re looking for historical analogues of class revolution, you’re welcome to confront the bloody wasteland that is 20th century China

class in ancient China is complicated; class in dynastic China is complicated; class in 20th century China is (hoo buddy) complicated; class in 21st century China is (yells) complicated. Which is a roundabout way of getting to your question of:

I guess I'm wondering to what extent the idea of non-cultivators leading a class revolution feels like a more modern take vs smth that might conceivably happen in a historical Chinese setting.

Not only does this feel like a modern take, this feels like a very Western take; I don’t think Western concepts of class awareness and conflict map easily across national and cultural borders, but I don’t have the requisite knowledge to give you a more nuanced understanding of how or why exactly. That... would be the subject of a dissertation, not a tumblr post.

You did bring up TGCF, and I do want to point out that the fall of Xianle is also... not a product of class conflict, necessarily speaking. It’s the product of 1) a refugee crisis, 2) multiple natural disasters, 3) the literal hand of fate. I think MXTX incorporates themes of class into her works, but her books tend to be much more focused on the development of an individual character in the face of hardship and opposition, rather than the role of an individual in society and the individual’s obligation to contribute to said society. I could write several hundred words on Xie Lian and his relationship to “the greater good,” but that belongs in a wholly different meta and a complete separate blog. I think it’s quite important that, again and again, we see that the ‘happy ending’ MXTX bestows upon her main characters is not “and then they get into politics and reform society to bring the greatest good to all!” but rather “and then they live in a house with the love of their life in quiet, domestic bliss, away from the politics that caused them so much pain and suffering.” To me, that indicates the author’s interest in personal and emotional development of characters rather than commenting on class conflict/class revolution in ahistorical fantasy China as a whole.

Again! I’m not trying to be prescriptive. I’m not saying that people can’t flesh out the worldbuilding and create incredible works of transformative fanwork that speculate on the nature of class conflict and revolution in a fantasy society. If that’s your speed, all the power to you! That sounds like a truly terrifying amount of thought and research, godspeed.

#ask and ye shall receive #I will not be accepting criticisms or follow-ups on this post ty

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agendratum · 3 years

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masterpost (i guess?)

NOT spoiler free, 18+ blog

i wanted to make this post cause i like organizing stuff and also cause i keep forgetting my own tags (understandably so, my tags are a mess)

ongoing things:

#watching things and stuff

#reading things and stuff

critical role campaign 3 #cr live

my stand in #joeming vs my sanity

the spirealm #door gods and gay coders

dragon age (talking about veilguard, reading the masked empire) #da times

trying to finish (maybe one day):

advance bravely #advancing bravely through the novel

shuang jing #yana tries to read sj

my gifs

to read and watch later list

special dragon age list 🐺

who rules the world

heroes

more tags under the cut

gif ideas

the untamed

main tag

bts and other cast related things

meta

my thoughts, memes and other edits

text post memes

straight guys’ reaction to woh

faraway wanderers

qi ye

old liveblog tag

kinnporsche

main tag

bts and cast related things

concert stuff

liveblog and other talks tag

legend of fei

main tag

text post memes

my other memes and edits

till the end of the moon

liveblog tag

text post memes

my edits

the wolf

main tag

my memes and other edits

douluo continent

heaven official's blessing

main tag

eternal faith bts and cast

reading liveblog tag

legend of two sisters in the chaos

advance bravely

main tag

text post memes

old liveblog tag

begin again (old liveblog tag)

scumbag system

main tag

old liveblog tag

couple of mirrors

main tag

old liveblog tag

text post memes

cherry magic (old liveblog tag)

wen tian lu

my edits

old liveblog tag

the witcher

critical role

main tag

the legend of vox machina

my memes

the devil judge

main tag

old liveblog tag

my strange friend (old liveblog tag)

winter begonia (liveblog tag)

castlevania (liveblog tag)

bad buddy

the long ballad (liveblog tag)

the eclipse (liveblog tag)

gap the series

moonlight chicken

the legend of anle (liveblog tag)

only friends

liveblog tag

kiseki: dear to me

liveblog tag

ai di tag

pit babe (liveblog tag)

the spirealm

mxtx

priest

other stuff:

learning chinese

poetry

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gifmaking

all the references (names)

btw, for anyone interested, you can find me on twitter @nonproknight, where i mostly retweet stuff, but sometimes also yell into the abyss

#masterpost #i probably forgot something i'll add it later #click read more for more shows specific tags #and just #more tags

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awesomeorangepumpkins · 4 years

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oh jun wu, what’s the matter with you?

I’m still falling asleep thinking about TGCF. It’s REALLY rare that a work does this to me. I’m forgetting details, but I can’t read it again because I did not make good life decisions while in the midst of reading it the first time. But one thing that I think about a lot, that I think is part of what makes TGCF so interesting for me is Jun Wu. I am definitely bringing a western perspective, and I read a translation and not the original. I bring this up with Jun Wu because I think the villain is especially interesting commentary on what people do wrong in their lives. I think without Jun Wu, TGCF is an AMAZING romance, but wouldn’t have been quite so epic and breath-taking.

You don’t get to really understand what MXTX is building with Jun Wu until Book 4 and Book 5, so I’m adding a cut.

I gotta say straight out, that I love when a villain architects their own defeat and I love MXTX because Jun Wu did it twice. He did it the first time by not letting or asking for help saving his people. By being determined on only 1 path forward and no others. By doubling down when things weren’t going how he had planned with the bridge. I, in my very different cultural background from the original author, think that the novel says Jun Wu potentially could have saved the day for his people if, 1 he’d told them what he was trying to do and why he thought this would work and how long it was going to take, 2 he’d worked with his 4 priests instead of against them, 3 if he’d gotten over his damn self and planned for a worst case scenario. (the novel might not suggest point 3 really, it might just be my own experience talking)

But definitely Jun Wu created Xie Lian, but not in the way he’d hoped. If it hadn’t been for Jun Wu’s own priest becoming Xie Lian’s head priest because Xie Lian reminded the priest (whose name is (did we even learn his name) is escaping me) of Jun Wu, Xie Lian wouldn’t have been able to bring him down. If it hadn’t been for Jun Wu noticing Xie Lian, Xie Lian wouldn’t have become immortal. Xie Lian wouldn’t have had Rouye. Xie Lian wouldn’t have had the 100 fatal stabs by people he was trying to save and thus gotten his straw hat. Xie Lian wouldn’t have hit rock bottom and lost the last vestiges of his false pride and sense of self and spent 800 years being the scrap immortal. If it wasn’t for Jun Wu, would would Hua Cheng have been *that* desperate for Xie Lian when they finally ended up together? Would Hua Cheng’s belief and devotion been nearly so fervent and fanatical?

If if not for ALL of that, Xie Lian and Hua Cheng and the scooby gang would never have defeated Jun Wu.

I believe Hua Cheng would have loved Xie Lian for sure. There’s a lot about who they both are that comes across that makes that believable all on its own. But some of the scars Hua Cheng and Xie Lian both bear are absolutely from Jun Wu’s own making.

So yeah, I love that, to me, it seems obvious that MXTX is basically shaking her head going “omg Jun Wu, what the fuck. why you gotta do this to yourself over and over?” He’s a villain because he can’t fucking get over himself. I even love that his defeat is basically him being like... maybe I was wrong. Maybe all of this was wrong. And he doesn’t even really die. He’s just kinda put in the immortal version of serious time-out.

And this. This is where I think Xie Lian becomes my second favorite character ever (second only to Hua Cheng). Book 4 is so fucking painful because it’s about a character realizing that if the choice is between his own belief in himself and other people’s suffering, he’s gonna realize that it takes more than him and that he can be a massive fuck up. He finally gets to the point where he’s BEGGING for other people to show him the good in humanity and he doesn’t wait for some huge gesture. He gets the little moments, both shitty and good, and is like, fuck it. Yep. This is enough. This is what I want out of life. I want millions and millions of little moments and helping people with them. This is what I know I can do. He learns almost the opposite of what Jun Wu is trying to push him towards.

Granted, Xie Lian watches Hua Cheng, even if he doesn’t know it’s Hua Cheng, sacrifice himself to save Xie Lian and all the people from Xie Lian’s mistake, but I think that was part of the lesson.

This is a very incoherent post, but life has kept me from posting this for much longer than I wanted so I’m going to beg forgiveness to anyone that bothers to read it.

At some point I kind wish someone would contrast what happens to Jun Wu vs what happens to Shi Wudu/Lord Water Master. I don’t feel capable. I’m not sure there’s MEANT to be a contrast, but I think it’s fascinating. At some point I’m going to write more about Hua Cheng and Xie Lian though. Because I’m a massive romance reader and their romance is epic on so many levels.

#hualian #tgcf #tgcf meta #heaven official's blessing #heavenly official's blessing #xie lian #hua cheng #jun wu #jun wu is an idiot #jun wu is the BEST villain #does anyone else have an obsession with rouye?

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martialgodz · 3 years

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incel mxtx vs chad priest

#danmei #mmmm gay novels that don't have entire chapters that make me want to rip my skin off my beloved

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ultimateshixiongfuckertournament · 3 months

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GRAND FINAL - Fei Du vs Quan Yizhen

The final match to determine the Ultimate Shixiongfucker is between Fei Du (shixiong: Luo Wenzhou) from Mo Du vs Quan Yizhen (shixiong: Yin Yu) from Heaven Official's Blessing

Propaganda under the cut

Fei Du:

Fei Du: evidence? The entirety of Mo Du. His shixiong is is Luo Wenzhou, a dude with an eight-pack and parents who love him and love fei du as well, and a dude whom fei du is willing to not die/consider the future with, and consider himself not a monster to be with. Fei Du says shixiong to Luo Wenzhou so flirtatiously that they both stop and stare. Luo Wenzhou gets him birthday cake, a video game when he was small and a promise. (Also, they are cat parents)

If, like me, you go feral over ships where one of them is like this, then vote Fei Du!

#vote for fei du#the man who actually did fuck his shixiong despite all his best efforts to push him away

#vote fei du!!#who actually did fuck his shixiong#fei du died saving lwz

#anyway yeah vote fei du. for the suffering luo wenzhou had to go through when a slutty rich twink began to call him 'shixiong~'

How could I see these tags and not post a greatest hits compilation of Fei Du's "shixiong~~" moments!

Fei Du paused; then some mood caused him to add, “Shixiong.” Luo Wenzhou: “…” How could he use such an ordinary tone of voice to speak such an ordinary form of address and yet make it sound so sexual? It was really incomprehensible.

In this small place, where every breath and bowel movement could be heard, Mr. Fei, who was so close to him, didn’t open his mouth when he had something to say; he had to use the office’s WiFi to send him a WeChat message: “Shixiong, can I take you out tonight?” Luo Wenzhou looked up at him. Fei Du seemed to be focused on the screen of his laptop; if not for the suspicious trace of a smile at the corners of his lips, he would have looked absolutely upright and proper. The “upright and proper” Mr. Fei moved his fingers, and another WeChat message appeared in front of Luo Wenzhou’s eyes. He said: “I like your abs.”

Fei Du sighed gently. “Shixiong, I’m going to love you until you can’t escape.”

Seeing that, after going inside with the box of cured meat in one hand and the clanking bicycle under the other arm, Luo Wenzhou still showed no signs of ceasing hostilities, Fei Du, without any warning, suddenly hugged him, kissing him like a surprise attack, this time saying the proper lines. “Shixiong, I was wrong.” “…” Luo Wenzhou kept his face as stern as possible, but his voice relaxed uncontrollably. “Don’t give me that.” Fei Du lowered his head slightly, burying his face against his neck. He thought about it, then said, “Can I make it up to you with my body?”

Fei Du laughed quietly, pecking at the most sensitive place at the base of his ear, his other hand untucking Luo Wenzhou’s shirt. “I just got a scare. Shouldn’t you make it up to me, shixiong? My technique really is very good. Just try it, I guarantee…”

He was so angry he was incoherent, forgetting how to speak. Fei Du, stunned, blinked his eyes, then took Luo Wenzhou’s hand with the veins standing out on it in both of his hands, brought his palms together, and curved his peach blossom eyes in a roguish manner. “Shixiong, I love you.” Luo Wenzhou: “…”

additional fei du propaganda: (almost) every time he calls luo wenzhou shixiong

Quan Yizhen:

Obsessed with his shixiong, much to said shixiong's chagrin. Someone who's a proper quanyin shipper can write better propaganda, but I just know he belongs here

Someone who's a proper quanyin shipper can write better propaganda

Well, okay. So Quan Yizhen was originally a street kid that was taken in as a disciple by the sect master at Yin Yu's (the shixiong in question) request because he was impressed by Yizhen's potential. But all the other disciples hated Quan Yizhen's guts due to a mix of his utter inability to read social cues and envy towards his raw talent, only Yin Yu was nice to him which is why Quan Yizhen's obsession with his shixiong took off. Yin Yu is the only person Quan Yizhen cares for.

Eventually his cultivation led Yin Yu to ascend to godhood and he took Quan Yizhen to heaven with him as a deputy god because he knew he couldn't leave him alone. Quan Yizhen doesn't care about prestige, he only cares about martial arts and shixiong, so he asks Yin Yu if they can't go back and if ascension is really that great to which Yin Yu replies to give it a try: Quan Yizhen does and actually ascends as a proper god.

However because Quan Yizhen is so naturally talented he quickly came to eclipse Yin Yu, which he didn't even realize because, again, he has zero social skills. This festered resentment in Yin Yu who eventually exploded and told Quan Yizhen to go kill himself... while Yizhen was wearing a robe that made him follow all fo Yin Yu's commands, so he almost does kill himself. He was stopped and Yin Yu was thrown out of heaven.

But!!! Quan Yizhen doesn't care about any of that! He still wants to meet his shixiong and is sure it was all a misunderstanding. Quan Yizhen actually beats up his own devotees if they trash talk his shixiong, nevermind that as a god his existance is dependant on said devotees. But he doesn't care about that! He only became a god because of shixiong.

When he finally meets his shixiong again, he recognizes him by Yin Yu's mannerism despite Yin Yu wearing a mask. Yin Yu hits him on the head with a shovel and he still doesn't care!! Quan Yizhen still follows his shixiong like a loyal puppy. When later Yin Yu dies trying to protect him Quan Yizhen cries and apologizes for not being able to protect him despite only being good for fighting. Quan Yizhen carries his shixiong's corpse all the way while heaven if falling apart. The last chapter implies Quan Yizhen is trying to nurture Yin Yu's soul to get him back and in the post-canon extras Yin Yu makes a cameo. So Quan Yizhen was succesful!! Death can't take him from his shixiong!

give it to quan yizhen!!!! his whole THING is unconditional love for his shixiong. No matter what Yin Yu does, qyz will love him forever!!

#i will not have my boy who literally calls out SHIXIONG any time he sees yin yu#and desperately chases after him even after everything#lose like this

#yall better give this to quan yizhen#if there's ever a shixiong fucker IT'S HIM

#yes!!!!!!!!#quanyin#he loves him so much!! it’s unconditional!!#vote qyz#tgcf#svsss

#quan yizhen is a real deal shixiongfucker#admit that every time you see his name you're screaming “shixiong!!!!!” reflexively in your head#polls

#qyz propaganda: wdym this guy was ready to kill and be killed for his shixiong#qyz is the most precious#he fights his worshippers if they talk shit about his shixiong#never minds the fact that said shixiong nearly got him killed#THE SUN AND MOON PAIRING#he's the epitome of head empty only shixiong

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you don’t understand, i need this win with every part of my soul

#fei du #luo wenzhou #mo du #silent reading #zhoudu #quan yizhen #yin yu #heaven official's blessing #tgcf #tian guan ci fu #quanyin #priest vs mxtx

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web-novel-polls · 6 months

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Favorite Web Novel Quotes Tournament Masterpost [Completed]

[Last Updated: July 31st, 2024 - please check the original post for updates]

Tournament Tag: #webnovel quotes tournament

Submissions - CLOSED

Quotes List

Bracket Size: 64 Contestants

Type: Single-Elimination

Start: April 25th, 2024

Expected End: July 31st, 2024

Posting Time: 12 pm CST (UTC-6)

All Results: #wn quotes results

Tournament Status: 100% compete

Final Rankings

Winner:

“To me, the one basking in infinite glory is you; the one fallen from grace is also you. What matters is you, and not the state of you.” - Heaven Official’s Blessing

Completed

Round 1

Group A: Thursday, April 25th-May 2nd

Group B: Monday, April 29th-May 6th

Group C: Friday, May 3rd-10th

Group D: Tuesday, May 7th-14th

Group E: Saturday, May 11th-18th

Group F: Thursday, May 16th-23rd

Group G: Tuesday, May 21st-28th

Group H: Saturday, May 25th-June 1st

Round 2

Group A: Monday, June 3rd-10th

Group B: Thursday, June 6th-13th

Group C: Tuesday, June 11th-18th

Group D: Saturday, June 15th-22nd

Round 3

Group A: Monday, June 24th-July 1st

Group B: Thursday, June 27th-July 4th

Quarterfinals: Saturday, July 5th-12th

Semifinals: Monday, July 15th-22nd

Match 61: Quote 17 (When humans ascend or fall, they are still human) vs. Quote 45 ("I, someone of no redeeming quality...")

Match 62: Quote 47 (Most Proficient at Lying) vs. Quote 16 (What Matters is You)

Finals: Wednesday, July 24th-31st

Match 63: Quote 17 (When humans ascend or fall, they are still human) vs. Quote 16 (What Matters is You)

Third Place: Quote 45 (“I, someone of no redeeming quality…”) vs. Quote 47 (Most Proficient at Lying)

Bonus Polls

MXTX: June 26th-July 3rd

Meatbun: July 1st-8th

Priest: July 4th-11th

DPA: July 7th-14th

ORV: July 8th-15th

#not a poll #masterposts #webnovel quotes tournament

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lucifermeo · 5 years

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Ancient China’s fantastic beasts and how to call them (p1)

So I’ve been re-reading my favourite Chinese novels (mainly MXTX and other danmei) using the English translations available online in order to talk about them to non-Chinese speaking friends. First of all, I have to give lots and lots thanks to the fan translators who took out a lot of time to translate and bring these novels to others who don’t speak Chinese, especially considering Chinese is not particularly an easy language to translate to English at all. However, in regards to how certain fantasy entities are often defined in Chinese, some of the English translations that I came across didn’t feel quite right to me. Therefore, here’s a (very limited) intro post I thought I’d make.

Disclaimer/disclosure: Chinese is actually my third language, but the language and culture share tons of similarity with my mother tongue (English is my 2nd, of course), so I was raised surrounded by Chinese culture and literary works. I am, however, a STEM kid through and through, so I honestly have no formal education of Chinese linguistics, and whatever I write here is based on my experience with the words/tropes as well as colloquial uses. I’ll refer to some Western mythology later in comparison as well, and I have even less experience with that outside of reading some Homer and fantasy books. Hence, I welcome any and all criticisms.

In this post, I’ll just identify some differences between 妖魔鬼怪 - yao, mo, gui, guai, respectively. While they are often used together as a phrase to denote supernatural presence (negatively) in general, each word actually denotes a different type of beings. Do note that authors are at full creative liberty to depict these beings however they want in their novels, similar to how things like vampires, witches, and werewolves can be different in different adaptations (sometimes wildly so - Draculas vs. Edward Cullen anyone?). Below are just some common understanding of the terms, that is, what I would picture in my mind when reading the words without the authors’ explanation.

Let’s start with the easiest type to explain - 妖, yao. Yao is used to describe things or living beings that can turn into human form. Similar to how humans can cultivate natural energy around us to increase our power/lifespan (see: Mo Dao Zu Shi), there is a belief that other living and non-living beings can cultivate energy to turn themselves into human forms. (As to why they would want to be human, well, we like to think ourselves as the superior existence, heh.) These human forms then often possess supernatural powers, most likely closely linked to their natural form. For example, a non-sentient tree or rock can cultivate enough to turn into a human if they are placed in a sacred place, or have ‘listened’ to lectures by some masters of cultivation over a long period of time. A tree that can turn human, for example is called 树妖, shu (tree) yao. Probably the most popular characters in folklore stories is the fox spirit, or kitsune (Japanese), or the 狐妖, hu yao, with 狐 (hu) is a fox. Aside from the suffix -yao, these types of creatures can be described with the suffix -jing, eg. 狐狸精, 树精. The word jing means to understand, to be aware, ergo fit to describe a yao. The closest translation would probably be the were creatures, werewolf, were-lion, etc. Yao is not infectious though, and it can come from non-living things, like rocks.

Another easy class of creatures to identify is 怪, guai. In everyday, non-fantasy meaning, guai means different, strange. Unsurprisingly, it’s used to described monsters, the most straightforward term I think of. Do note that guai often means monsters that are as different from the human form as possible, aka. think Godzilla, not vampires. They are often not of human origin as well. From the works I have read, guai often don’t possess very varied magical abilities, outside of their immense physical strength and at most 1-2 quirks.

Now, 魔鬼 is a bit of a hard one, because sometimes they are used interchangeably, sometimes even together as a 2-in-1 package. Just to confirm my instinctive thoughts, I double-checked on Baidu (aka Chinese Google) to be sure. Let’s do 鬼 - gui first. Most of the time, gui is used to describe ghosts - humans who have died but not moved on or went to (Buddhist) hell or can still return to Earth. While benign ghosts are gui as well, some authors may use 灵魂 (ling hun - souls) to distinguish them from gui, which has a negative connotation. Gui often are sorted into different categories - the hungry ghosts, the violent ghosts, etc. 厉鬼 (li gui) is often the most violent ghosts who died in a horrible manner and wanted revenge against the living. Gui can possess a wide of range of abilities which is not very different from Western horror movies’ depictions. An obvious difference is gui abides by the Chinese Buddhism/Taoist beliefs of reincarnation and karma, rather than the typical Judeo-Christian thing in Western movies (aka none of that cross and holy water stuff). For example, Hua Cheng in TGCF is a 鬼王 - Gui Wang, which is the ghost king. By using the term gui, the author didn’t have to spell out that he used to be a human that died.

魔 - mo is a tricky term. It can be used to describe dead evil people, emphasis on evil. Interestingly, Baidu says the Chinese language does not have the word mo - it is rather an adaptation from the word “Mara” in the Buddhist scriptures. Strictly speaking, mo describes all negative human emotions that prevent humans from practising Buddhism / their quest for Nirvana. It describes doubts, temptations, jealousy, etc. which are the roots to “evil”. This word later evolves to describe “evil” in general. When people are corrupted with thoughts like greed, envy, they are said to develop a 心魔 - xin (heart) mo - literally evil in their hearts. In MDZS, what Nie Mingjue undergoes is called 走火入魔 - zou hua ru mo, which was translated as “qi deviation”. The word mo appears in this phrase, and its linked verb ru mo (to enter/descend to evil). Creatures that are described as mo, then, are implied to be of evil origins. In some texts, they are born from the evil of the world/humanity. In other texts, humans can corrupt themselves to the point of evil, turning themselve into mo. Maybe, mo (creatures) can be translated as demons, or at least that’s how I understand the latter term in the Judeo-Christian sense. Luo Binghe from Scum Villain is definitely a mo, having been inheriting the ‘evil’ blood from his father. Since mo are quite commonly understood as evil, that’s why Binghe has to ask Shen Qing Qiu whether he discriminates against Binghe for his blood.

Then, here comes the confusion: since gui are often evil, and mo is definitively evil, some will use them interchangeably. Which is not wrong - there are no strict rules regulating this as far as I know. However, it’s sometimes a bit difficult to know which English word to use for it - demon and ghost are quite different. Some times I don’t even know LOL. For example, in Guardian (Zhen Hun), Shen Wei is called a 鬼王 (gui wang) as well, like Hua Cheng. However, in the story (spoiler?) Shen Wei was never human - he was born from the ‘evil energy’ of the Earth. Which would make him closer to a mo wang - demon king, but when Priest (the author) uses gui wang, in Chinese it still makes sense, at least to me (and probably readers). I don’t know if I’m making sense here, but mo gui can be a bit difficult like that.

So that’s it for this post. If I’m free, maybe I’ll add on with 神仙佛圣, the good supernatural guys later.

#fantasy #mo dao zu shi #mdzs #tian guan ci fu #tgcf #scum villain #mxtx #zhen hun #priest #chinese fantasy #hua cheng #wei wuxian #hualian #wangxian #shen wei #weilan #luo binghe #bingqiu

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ultimateshixiongfuckertournament · 4 months

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Semifinal 1: Fei Du vs Jiang Cheng

Semifinal 1 is between Fei Du (shixiong: Luo Wenzhou) from Mo Du vs Jiang Cheng (shixiong: Wei Wuxian) from Mo Dao Zu Shi

Propaganda under the cut

Fei Du:

Fei Du: evidence? The entirety of Mo Du. His shixiong is is Luo Wenzhou, a dude with an eight-pack and parents who love him and love fei du as well, and a dude whom fei du is willing to not die/consider the future with, and consider himself not a monster to be with. Fei Du says shixiong to Luo Wenzhou so flirtatiously that they both stop and stare. Luo Wenzhou gets him birthday cake, a video game when he was small and a promise. (Also, they are cat parents)

Jiang Cheng:

Clinged to WWX constantly for 7+ years, wanted to have WWX as his right hand man forever after becoming sect leader, cried after WWX left, cried when he discovered what WWX sacrificed for him, was TORN APART when it got explained to him that if they were more outwardly close knit, WWX might not have died

PROPAGANDA!! to start, i'm still very bitter about how fairy lost the sentient animal poll and i want to win this badly. very very badly. current stats are 50.6 in favour of jc but that's too less of a gap for me. jc should be winning this by a landslide, y'all hear me? anyways. starting with a class act, like the clown i am->

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a few links ( because i'm chengxian trash, as always and i'd love if poll-guy could copy paste them on the og post): one, two, three, four (gif), five, six, seven (gif), eight (thoughts on different wavelengths), the absolute circles of them saving each other, the fucking golden core reveal scene. golden scene reveal part 2, jiang cheng will always forgive wei wuxian

to start with. jiang cheng is literally the picture of "i knew from the moment i met you that i'd spend a lifetime forgiving you".

the earliest dynamic of jiang cheng and wei wuxian is jiang cheng giving away his dogs (the only gift his father has ever given him, btw) because wei wuxian is scared of the dogs. tis only the start of it.

his father very obviously prefers his shixiong over him, his mother berates him for not being as good as wei wuxian and tells him his inheritance is in danger, and his sister (in my opinion) has more care for him (visibly. maybe jiang yanli doesn't show it because jc is an emotionally complicated purple grape, maybe because jc doesn't need it, or wei wuxian is traumatised but that's my opinion). but still. still. Jiang Cheng loves Wei Wuxian. so much. jealousy is like. the most tame response i can think of. and jiang cheng is proud of wei wuxian, okay? he'd believe his big brother if he'd said anything. want proof? well, here you go-> link

to paraphrase the link:

Jiang Cheng had just lost his family, his home, and his very golden core, and his older brother - his brilliant older brother who could fix anything, who could sneak wine into Cloud Recesses and defeat an ancient turtle nearly-god and make Jiang Cheng share a smile when Jiang Cheng’s mother was disappointed and furious at both of them - His big brother smiled and said, “I can fix this.”And Jiang Cheng believed him then, and believed him three months later when Wei Wuxian crawled out of the Burial Mounds (just the second miracle in three months), and believed him every day of the next seventeen(?) years until the pieces were shoved into place for him to see.

also. the circle these two go in protecting each other. (gif set by @sandushengshou), the 'if one of us is to die, then, i beg, let it be me' that they both do for one another in a seemingly neverending loop of sacrifice. via this post a la my lovely @backtoyunmeng

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jiang cheng is a cannonically ruined woman archetype, justified via the countless posts you'll get in the top posts of jiang cheng tag. he keeps chenqing, wwx's flute in perfect condition even when he hates wei wuxian, even when wwx, if only indirectly, has a part in jiang yanli's murder and oof okay someone pointed out to him that he's known to have killed wei wuxian and he almost cries. he absolutely believes, with his whole heart, that wei wuxian lives even when the world is sure he doesnt. and it always read to me like, i'd know if he was dead. he's a part of my soul, so i'd know if he was dead. he can't be dead.

this is getting too long, so, to sum up, some absolute poetry by @jiangchengsjawline

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#JC On The Other Hand Has His Entire Life Shaped By His Shixiong And Ended Up Cast As The Ruined Woman By The End

#jiang cheng though. wasn't able to fuck his shixiong but his shixiong definitely fucked with him

#hello?? the answer is Jiang cheng pls#he's the shixiongfucker or all shixiong fucker you wish you could be as pathetically in love with your shixiong as he is#chengxian

#i do not go here (chengxian) but the propaganda is incredibly correct they are insane abt each other#also sorry jiang cheng ik you're suffering but they are so funny to me#neway VOTE JIANG CHENG FOR CLEAR SKIN

#look I rarely go here#(here being chengxian)#but by GOD their lvoe compels me#they’re tragic and doomed and they love each other without knowing how to say it in words the other would understand#or in words at all because communication??? we don’t know her???

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he didn't even think about sacrificing himself, and consequently his entire bloodline, his sect, pretty much everything that depends on him for his shixiong??????????

is this not convincing->

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#had to vote jc though i have more feelings about chengxian#i think jc should have a huge gege kink

#like. jiang cheng should win the entire tournament hands down period

#fei du #luo wenzhou #mo du #silent reading #zhoudu #jiang cheng #wei wuxian #mdzs #the untamed #chengxian #priest vs mxtx

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ultimateshixiongfuckertournament · 5 months

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Round 2, Match 8: Wen Kexing vs Liu Qingge

Match 8 is between Wen Kexing (shixiong: Zhou Zishu) from Word of Honor vs Liu Qingge (shixiong: Shen Qingqiu) from The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System

Propaganda under the cut

Wen Kexing:

(okay so the canon part is confusing. cause wenzhou are officially canon in Faraway Wanderers and are censored bromance in Word of Honor. but they're only shixiong/shidi in Word of Honor and not in Faraway Wanderers. so idk what you want to do in regards to the canonicity of their relationship)

I mean Wen Kexing is all over Zhou Zishu from day 1, though he has very complicated emotions surrounding the whole shixiong/shidi element to their relationship, he does eventually declare himself as the second disciple of Shiji Manor and publicly acknowledges Zhou Zishu as his shixiong. anyways if you know anything about Wen Kexing you know how desperately he wants Zhou Zishu, even the censorship couldn't hide the fact that Wen Kexing wants to rail Zhou Zishu to kingdom come

Liu Qingge:

Okay I marked this as non-canonical but that's just because Shen Yuan is completely oblivious to how down-bad everyone around him is

Liu Qingge constantly aids and takes care of Shen Qingqiu, even fighting Luo Binghe (the actual ML) for 5 years to return Shen Qingqiu's body.

#wen kexing #zhou zishu #wenzhou #word of honor #liu qingge #shen qingqiu #shen yuan #liushen #scum villain's self saving system #svsss #priest vs mxtx

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ultimateshixiongfuckertournament · 4 months

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Semifinal 2: Quan Yizhen vs Wen Kexing

Semifinal 2 is between Quan Yizhen (shixiong: Yin Yu) from Heaven Official's Blessing vs Wen Kexing (shixiong: Zhou Zishu) from Word of Honor