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e94q01atid0x · 1 year
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herateleia-blog · 7 years
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@pekkt replied to your post: you know, come to think of it…  iirc, zeus...
lol r u gaslighting urself rn asking that im just………. sAYIN….
LMAO i mean!!! i had the same thought when i wrote that ngl, this is what my lazy ass gets for not pulling up sources.  ALRIGHT HERE WE GO, grabbing the quote i was thinking of from the theoi page:   Homer, Iliad 1. 536 - 570 ff (trans. Lattimore) (Greek epic C8th B.C.)
Zeus went back to his own house, and all the gods rose up from their chairs to greet the coming of their father, not one had courage to keep his place on the throne; yet Hera was not ignorant, having seen how he had been plotting counsels with Thetis the silver-footed, the daughter of the sea's ancient, and at once she spoke revilingly to Zeus son of Kronos : ‘Treacherous one, what god has been plotting counsels with you? Always it is dear to your heart in my absence to think of secret things and decide upon them. Never have you patience frankly to speak forth to me the thing that you purpose.’
Then to her the father of gods and men made answer : ‘Hera, do not go on hoping that you will hear all my thoughts, since these will be too hard for you, thought you are my wife. Any thought that it is right for you to listen to, no one neither man nor any immortal shall hear it before you. But anything that apart from the rest of the gods I wish to plan, do not always question each detail nor probe me.’
Then the goddess the ox-eyed lady Hera answered : ‘Majesty, son of Kronos, what sort of thing have you spoken? Truly too much in time past I have not questioned nor probed you, but you are entirely free to think out whatever pleases you. Now, though, I am terribly afraid you were won over by Thetis the silver-footed, the daughter of the sea's ancient. For in the early morning she sat beside you and took your knees, and I think you bowed your head in assent to honour Akhilleus, and to destroy many beside the ships of the Akhaians.’
Then in return Zeus who gathers the clouds made answer : ‘Dear lady, I never escape you, you are always full of suspicion. Yet thus you can accomplish nothing surely, but be more distant from my heart than ever, and it will be the worse for you. If what you say is true, then that is the way I wish it. But go then, sit down in silence, and do as I tell you, for fear all the gods, as many as are on Olympos, can do nothing if I come close and lay my unconquerable hands upon you.’
He spoke, and the goddess the ox-eyed lady Hera was frightened and went and sat down in silence wrenching her heart to obedience and all the Ouranion gods in the house of Zeus were troubled.
whether or not this counts as gaslighting, im not too sure---im not fond of this translation tbf, and i can always look at the Butler one but my fave (Fagles) is one that i dont have access to---but i feel like a case can be made for gaslighting. definitely there’s a case to be made for emotional abuse, because #yikes
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