#second inquisition

[theevilesti]

Session zero completed for Vampire: The Masquerade, and the coterie is different than I had expected in terms of clan memberships. Exciting stuff! My group now have time to review the rules and their choices ahead of preludes and chronicle start to determine what changes, if any, they want to make.

[reikiajakoiranruohoja]

Second Inquisition WOW

I don't even know how to preface this, because this is some massive tonal confusion. I guess the best way to put it is that for all I love Werewolf and Vampire, I am not blind to the horror they are for humans. Though my go-to question for anyone writing monster hunters is why they hunt, I still feel hunters are extremely important to the narrative as a counterpoint to the monsters. So when I read the introduction text for the Second Inquisition book for V5, my jaw hit the floor.

"The theme of the Second Inquisition is determination – aimed at the player coterie. Like a certain killer cyborg from the future, the Coalition can’t be reasoned with, it can’t be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Individual Inquisitors or soldiers or cops or nuns can be reasoned with and bargained with. Most feel fear, some feel pity, and even a few feel remorse. All those deviations and human moments make excellent stories, ripples in the flood. But the narrative relentlessly washes over those stories, replacing every flawed or broken foe with two more – ten more — out for revenge or salvation. The Inquisition as a whole – both as a conspiracy and a movement that enflames that conspiracy – will not stop until every Kindred burns. Conveying the impersonal, implacable determination of a gigantic bureaucracy to crush the player characters should not be impossible in the 2020s – but it should be very effective."

Why this made me stare at the screen, is how the Inquisition was introduced in an older book;

"The theme of The Inquisition is the crusader. The Society of Leopold sees itself as humanity’s last stand against the encroaching hordes of the World of Darkness. Inquisitors are the new Crusaders; all the Earth is their Holy Land. But theirs is a lonely struggle, bereft of the support of those whom they would save. The general populace does not know of the struggle, and would most likely think the Inquisitors are mad. Inquisitors are holy knights, alienated from their fellow mortals by their knowledge of what awaits. Some within the Inquisition are zealots, it is true, but it is better to err on the side of caution than to let slip the defences of humanity." The difference is stark, especially as they are talking about the same sort of hunters. The reason I find the newer book's take extremely strange, is due to the fact that the player characters in VtM are undead bloodsucking parasites that manipulate humanity and have magic blood powers that make them much stronger than an average human. Yet the V5 book chooses to introduce the inquisition as horrible people who will never stop hunting poor innocent vampires. It goes even as far as the art.

(Start ID; A mixed media picture with modified photographs. A bald man in a trenchcoat is scowling with his fists clenched. He is holding the severed head of a female vampire from its hair. The expression on the head is of wide-eyed horror. End ID.)

(Start ID; A book cover with the text Inquision as the title, with a crosshair symbol reading 'Year of the Hunter' on the bottom. The cover art is a painted picture of a bearded man in a trenchcoat and torn jeans wielding in one hand a large cross and in another a lit torch. There is a shotgun and spent shells on the tiled floor. Just outside the light of the torch, a horde of vampires with glowing eyes has surrounded the man, some shirking from the light. End ID.)

One treats the hunter as a threat overpowering a vampire. The other treats the hunter as a lone figure surrounded by a mass of vampires. Let me be quite frank, humanity in WoD are the mice that the cats (vampires) hunt. Hunters are the mice that fight back. A vampire in VtM, regardless of edition, has an advantage over a hunter. Vampires use humans as prey, the polite ones pay them for it but they don't HAVE to. In V5 you are given various methods to hunt for your blood, some which are cruel. Painting the people standing up to creatures that actively harm humans as the abusers and the ones in the wrong is extremely tone deaf. Vampires are not some oppressed minority trying to eke out a living, a vampire is creature that needs to drink blood to survive and human blood is the best. In V5's own lore, it is only recently that vampires are even put on the backfoot at all. Before that, humanity were pawns in centuries long grudgematches and at best a quick bite snack at wost fleshcrafted into sacks hung from hooks. Can there be good vampires and bad hunters? Of course, WoD is all about the shades of gray. It is when the basic set up of the setting is turned around like this that I have a problem.

[sewer-rat-89]

i know i've mentioned this before but the number of hunters on kindred tumblr genuinely baffles me. like obviously they are spying on us to become more familiar with our habits and there are still fledgelings out here with their names and locations available??? also, just, the audacity. it doesn't matter how nice or catboy or otherwise woobified the hunters are, guys. they want to kill you. they want to kill your loved ones.

these hunters, especially these Second Inquisition hunters, see you as parasites. monsters. they want nothing more than to completely eradicate you and your loved ones. they want you to be extinct. they're being polite to you on the internet or making silly haha jokes with you because it makes you let your guard down. it lets you get closer to them.

kindred who JOIN the hunters are a whole other level. you realize that the SI is going to kill you next? you realize that your hunter buddies are going to kill you once they've killed everyone else? you realize that when they come for you, there's no kindred in the world who's going to step up to help you because you've killed their loved ones?

i'm not even angry i'm just disappointed.

i genuinely feel like some of the hunters on here don't get it. a couple of you genuinely seem like you've ingested so much of this SI brainrot that you think you're "one of the good ones." you think you're helping. but listen to me. LISTEN TO ME. the second inquisition doesn't care if you're "one of the good ones." they're not just getting rid of the "bad kindred who hurt people." they're not just going after the serial killers and the dormitors and the people who commit atrocities. they are going after *everyone.* they want every single kindred, YES even that nice one you know who only drinks from blood bags, to be SYSTEMATICALLY ERADICATED. christ. fuck.

[we-are-hunter]

Among the Society of Leopold, the Gladius Dei is the most battle-hardened division. Its membership is by invitation from the Inquisitor-General only, and is comparable to a knighthood within the Society. Its members are, in many senses, the ideal Inquisitors: Loyal without fault, zealous, courageous, and capable. Among the Hunters in the World of Darkness, few are as feared as the Gladius Dei, armed as they are with ancient faith and cutting edge technology.

[dravencroft]

Oh, there's just something about the sun / That seems so very, very boring / I will follow you down into the dark.

Marco, an Imbued hunter from the Society of Leopold, and his boyfriend-turned-vampire Antonio, from the Giovanni clan. How will their relationship survive their changed natures?

[beanphomet]

I can be your angle or yuor devil.

Imagine you're a SI agent and not only do you get kidnapped by vampires but also ghouled by the soggiest of them and they're all Baali. Truly it's all one big L.

[del-uxie]

[horrorlocke]

sketch comm for @thenerdybirdycreations !! >:D

[loyalist-archives]

[botanical-feverdream]

I got a message from the one up above

Serpentine seductress love to bite back

Probe me paralyze me nymphomaniac

Brand me burn abduct me hyper heart attack

Love to love me leave me make me come back

Plagued be the body, holy and unscathed

Forgive me father, for I have misbehaved

Crafted like a weapon, unable to disengage

Built to dismember, fill me with your rage

diversity win fr though! the agent who is coming to your house to kill you is trans and she is very upset you called her a bitch! Also ofcrs the songs for this drawing:

THIS WAS FR REAL FUN TO DRAW I LOVE HER AND SHOULD DRAW HER IN TACTICAL GEAR MORE OFTEN BUT ALSO VERY IMPORTANT

DO NOT JOIN THE MILITARY ITSA BAD I always feel slightly bad if I dont mention it

[candlelight-huntsman]

Bloodhunt makes vampire hunters look so cool, appreciate it

[galejro]

Some small Hunter collection, Lizzy went through your typical teenager rebellion phase XD Y'know just give her plastic stakes and let her vent it out she'll get over it ^^

[owlispls]

I have been thinking a lot about the world of darkness (TTRPG/VtM not FFXIV). And when writing the lore of this former human I am just absolutely fascinated about how humans interact with the world of darkness without knowing anything about it.

Like what is the TV saying about the blood empty person in the park? Did they still have bite marks? Did they found a ‚probable cause‘ without having to bend over backwards to tell society that they think vampires exist?

Would it be the police report to invite the second Inquisition to find out more about it or does it simply just get lost within the abundance of news?

I do like to write some subtle foreshadowing into some of the lore of my OC, but it has to stay subtle, so that she doesn‘t want to check out where this is coming from. In the end her dying and being turned into a vampire is absolutely something she did not expect AT ALL.

[byzfox13]

I really wish Paradox would hurry up and make either a Hunter the Vigil or Second Inquisition game...like I know VTM is cool to lots of folks; but please, Hunter sometime 

[7layerburittoboy]

cw/ horror and gore ig

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the second half

[cu-londain]

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