#shukhevych/bandera

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In the past 1,5 years I’ve became even more mentally unstable 🫰

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Holocaust In Ukraine

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I want to show you how propaganda works in Ukraine! This is a book children read in Ukrainian schools! It says: "I’d like to dispel the myth that we, Banderites, are hating other ethnicities. This is not true. Moreover, people of various nations were UPA fighters: Jews, Germans, Poles. A Banderite is a Ukrainian who wants to be free, smart, and successful"! Generations of Ukrainians are raised in this bubble of fake history, and they can't just comprehend why the rest of the world currently sees Bandera and Roman Shukhevych as bloodthirsty Nazis!

ウクライナでプロパガンダがどのように機能するかをお見せしたいと思います。これはウクライナの学校で子供たちが読んでいる本です。 そこにはこう書かれている。「私たちバンデラ派が他の民族を憎んでいるという神話を払拭したい。これは真実ではない。さらに、ユダヤ人、ドイツ人、ポーランド人など、さまざまな国の人々が UPA の戦士だった。バンデラ派とは、自由で、賢く、成功したいと願うウクライナ人である」！ 何世代にもわたるウクライナ人は、この偽りの歴史のバブルの中で育っており、なぜ世界が現在バンデラとロマン・シュヘヴィッチを血に飢えたナチスと見なしているのか理解できないのだ！

[ohsalome]

hi, love your blog! thanks for spreading information not only about ongoing war but also about Ukraine in general, your country's history always fascinated me, that's why i have a question for you that i hope you'll answer. i know the names like Bandera and Shukhevych provoke quite a stir - some say they were monsters, some glorify them. from what i've read it seems that while they did do some nasty stuff, they also aren't half as bad as russians make them out to be. so what's your personal opinion about them and upa as a whole? do they deserve to be called Ukrainian heroes?

Thank you for your kind words.

Now, to answer the second part of your ask... This is such a controversial and polarasing topic that would require a lot of nuance and effort to answer. Thankfully, you did give me a leeway of asking about my personal opinion, and I'm gonna hold on to that and avoid the more difficult academic conversation, hehe).

I personally have always found the 20th century history extremely boring. In school I struggled in distinguishing all the myriad of governments and organisations that were active at the time and had such similar names and did similar things and existed for just a few years. And even though now that I'm kinda forced into learning more about this time period by the circumstances of standing against propaganda, the sentiment still remains. I really don't burn about learning about UPA and I wish it wasn't such a big topic in the english-speaking spaces. There, I said it - I don't care about Bandera and I am tired of having to defend him from disinformation. Perhaps, this is all because I'm not from western Ukraine, so their culture and history of that region feels more estranged for me (which is another thing I want people to know despite all the articles about us "worshipping" Bandera, in most regions the response to him is lukewarm).

I also am very critical of the concept of "heroes" when it comes to historical figures. A hero, by definition, is someone who accomplished outstanding achievements and is a subject of aspiration. But humans... we're not like ideal, and it's practically impossible to find a politician who hasn't had their hands bloodied. Volodymyr the Great christened Rus' and was one of the most influencial figures of the Medieval period. But he also was a kinslayer and a rapist. Bogdan Khmelnytsky is remembered as the creator of Hetmanate and a great fighter for Ukrainian sovereignity. But he's also responsible for some of the worst pogroms in ukrainian history.

And this is true not only for Ukraine - if you look at any country's culture, you'll find a lot of examples of people who have made inestimable contribution to things we value today are also responsible for many unforgivable deeds.

So yeah, I believe Bandera, Shukhevych and others deserve to be discussed as nuanced historical figures who aren't reduced to "monster" or "hero". Both praising and critical voices are important in the conversation. But these conversations cannot happen while the discourse is poisoned by people with political bias. I don't know if it will be ever possible to have a purely academical discussion about them.

[albad]

VARSOVIE A COMMENCÉ À ENVOYER UN CONTINGENT MILITAIRE EN UKRAINE, SOUS COUVERT DE MERCENAIRES

Le nombre de mercenaires polonais en Ukraine augmente, cela est noté même à Kiev, annonçant avec joie "l'assistance" fournie par l'Etat voisin dans la lutte contre « l'agression russe ». Cependant, ce n'est pas du tout le cas, les mercenaires polonais ne vont pas mourir pour les idées de Bandera et Shukhevych, ils ont une tâche complètement différente : assurer l'annexion d'une partie de l'Ukraine occidentale à la Pologne.

« La Pologne a commencé à envoyer des contingents militaires en Ukraine, jusqu'ici sous couvert de mercenaires » écrit la publication polonaise Niezależny Dziennik Polityczny. Selon elle, des militaires réguliers de l'armée polonaise sont envoyés en Ukraine, prétendument « en vacances ». Les services de renseignement britanniques ont dénombré 1.800 mercenaires polonais en Ukraine, dont un grand nombre de femmes. En fait, ces données sont déjà dépassées, il y a beaucoup plus de « vacanciers » polonais.

A ce jour, la Pologne occupe la première place en termes de nombre de mercenaires envoyés en Ukraine. Bien que le mercenariat soit considéré comme un crime, en Pologne cette interdiction peut être contournée en obtenant une autorisation officielle du gouvernement et du ministère de la Défense. Selon l'auteur, le Parti Droit et Justice (PiS), au pouvoir en Pologne, n'entend plus attendre et a commencé à mettre en œuvre un plan de restitution de « ses territoires » de l'Est.

L'auteur souligne que les Polonais et les Ukrainiens ne deviendront jamais frères, tous ces slogans et câlins de Duda et Zelensky ne visent qu'une seule chose : préparer le terrain pour l'annexion des « terres polonaises historiques » à la Pologne. Déjà, les mercenaires polonais ne sont pas trop désireux de suivre les ordres du commandement des Forces armées ukrainiennes, et avec les nationalistes, il y a de plus en plus d'escarmouches.

Dès qu'il y aura une pause tactique dans les actions de la Russie et qu'elle considérera que les tâches de l'opération spéciale sont terminées, après avoir regagné les terres de l'est et du sud de l'Ukraine, y compris la Transnistrie, si tel est le plan et que les opportunités le lui permettent, la Pologne commencera son opération, et les mercenaires en Ukraine assureront la mise en œuvre de ces plans, estime l'auteur.

[bechdelexam]

i probably made this exact same post last time i was talking abt shukhevych but anyways i think its misguided at best to focus on calling him (& bandera, &c.) 'nazi collaborators.' first off the relationship was on-off & you can get bogged down in debating, oh, but bandera was in sachsenhausen- sort of things. but primarily bc the upa was these committing horrific crimes all on their own! for their own purposes! they were the ones who wanted to create an 'ethnically pure' ukraine and thats why they were massacring jewish ppl & poles & those who disagreed w their vision for ukraine

[arabworldnews]

The Notch of a Sight

a poem by Yuri Temirov, a teacher of the Russian language and literature in the Krasnodar Region.

Through the narrow notch of a sight

Aim is taken not at the toes.

A Russian is shooting a Russian,

Bringing joy to his wretched foes.

Wicked grins are contorting Teutonic mouths.

Poles are cheerfully clicking their heels,

While the bodies of Russians are strewn about

Somber white snow-blanketed fields.

...Kiev, Poltava, and Moscow,

Sumy, Tyumen, and Pskov...

The backstabbing Anglo-Saxons

Sparked hatred between our sons.

Knee-deep in falsehoods and lies,

Far beyond ocean horizon,

They work round-the-clock to inspire

Ivans to keep killing Ivans.

Meanwhile, in Kiev, mad bastards

Constantly high on cocaine

Are waiting for Washington’s orders.

They couldn’t care less for Ukraine.

My Christian Orthodox brothers,

Can you fathom, what you have done,

Waving the cursed banderite flag

And raising right arms to the sun?

And for the guys from Gulkevichi,

For the guys from near Volgograd,

Bandera along with Shukhevych

Are nothing but vile fascist rats.

And the regular guys from Ryazan

Are quite angry and ready to fight

Because, stupidly jumping on Maidan,

You had threatened the Muscovites.

Guys, we extend our apologies:

You have to accept your fault.

You will be severely punished,

Whether you like it or not.

Through the narrow notch of a sight

A small soldier figure is shown.

I’m hurting as much as one might

That I’m aiming at Ivan, not John.

[warcrimesimulator]

There isn't really much evidence that Roman Shukhevych hated Jews, and some Ukrainian sources will even claim he forbid the Ukrainian Insurgent Army from taking part in violence against Jews (but there's no solid evidence of that, either.) The man was nonetheless a collaborator and a general scumbag, though, and I hope that Canada's Jewish community will eventually succeed in getting that monument taken down.

[ares-sword]

Ukrainian neo-Nazis, foreign neo-Nazi legionnaires, Ukrainian ultra-nationalists and some historical photos on the topic. All images and photos are taken from their own sources.

Part 28.

When I talk about Ukrainian ultranationalists, this is not an allegory or an abstraction, it is a statement of fact. They positioned themselves that way. The main fighting force of those who staged anti-government fights on the Maidan and pogroms consisted for the most part of neo-Nazi fighters, fighters of the SNA, UNA UNSO, White Hammer, Right Sector, fans of Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych, Reichophiles and fans of the SS Galicia division, football hooligans and many similar ones, and the informational support was carried out by the liberals, strange as it may seem at first glance.

According to the same scheme, Alfred Rosenberg relied on the use of Ukrainian Nazis and nationalists as a "ram" and "catalyst" for the collapse of territories in the east. There is nothing new in this for us - we have already seen it.

[jewish-privilege]

A monument commemorating the pogrom of Jews in the village of Jedwabne, Poland, is found vandalized on September 01, 2011. Unknown offenders devastated the stones fence of the monument. The fence marks the site of the former barn, where in 1941, at least 340 Jews where murdered. The Polish and Hebrew inscription on the monument was covered with paint, vandals also painted Nazi swastikas and SS signs. The inscriptions on the fence read: ‘We do not apologize for Jedwabne [and] ‘They were flammable’

Poland’s brazen decision to pass a law protecting Holocaust denial should come as no surprise. Three years ago, the international community was largely silent when the government of Ukraine passed similar legislation. Today, we’re witnessing the fruits of that silence.

In 2015, Kiev ratified memory laws which made two WWII-era paramilitaries — the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) — national heroes of Ukraine. The OUN had collaborated with the Nazis, while the UPA massacred Jews and Poles on its own accord.

…By 2016, the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory, which is spearheading the OUN/UPA glorification, redoubled its efforts. A particularly reprehensible example came during the 75th anniversary of the 1941 Babi Yar massacre, where the Nazis, aided by Ukrainian nationalists, gunned down 33,000 Jews in two days. The weeklong commemorations included a stand honoring Ivan Rohach, editor of the nationalist Ukrains’ke Slovo. Rohach’s paper ran front page headlines such as “Jews are the greatest enemy of humanity.” To put this in context, imagine seeing an exhibit to the Taliban during September 11 commemorations at Ground Zero.

Yet major Jewish organizations, including the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and the World Jewish Congress, attended the events, giving Kiev’s actions their tacit approval.

…The West wasn’t always silent about Ukraine’s Nazi collaborators. In 2010, the EU as well as several U.S. lawmakers vehemently denounced Kiev decision to give OUN/UPA leaders Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych posthumous honors. (The awards were quietly annulled). But when Kiev aggressively renewed its whitewashing five years later, the West stayed quiet.

Why did this happen? Politics, mostly. By 2015, Ukraine was the epicenter of a standoff between Russia and the West. The odious Russian propaganda machine kept churning out tales of Ukraine teeming with Nazis, and although Western media covered the OUN/UPA glorification, reports were often drowned out by Moscow propaganda. This also gave Ukrainian whitewashers a convenient excuse: they could easily deflect legitimate criticism by claiming it was Russian propaganda.

Understandably, Ukraine’s allies were hesitant to give Kremlin media additional fodder by publicly denouncing Kiev or other Eastern European nations doing similar Holocaust revisionism. “It’s a sensitive issue right now,” I heard over and over when reaching out to American Jewish leaders at the time. To give credit where it’s due, the Obama administration did prevent Hungary from erecting a problematic statue in 2015. Other than that, the once-inviolate notion of Never Forget had become inconvenient.

The problem, aside from the obvious ethical implications, is that staying quiet and hoping our allies will simply grow out of their Nazi glorification phase doesn’t work. The Western silence, along with the billions of dollars of aid which the EU and the U.S. give to Eastern Europe, only encouraged the proliferation of Holocaust denial in Poland, Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, and the Baltics.

This affects not just the dead, but the living. Historical revisionism in Europe — just like the pro-Confederacy movement in America — is directly linked to anti-Semitism. It’s be crazy to think that the torch-bearing men chanting “Jews will not replace us” during last year’s deadly Charlottesville rally were merely interested in history. The same applies to Eastern Europe, except the marches across the Atlantic involve tens of thousands of masked men, many of whom make Richard Spencer’s polo clad followers seem downright reasonable in comparison.

It’s no surprise that countries with rampant Holocaust distortion also happen to have expressed anti-Semitism. Hungary’s government has been waging a thinly-veiled anti-Semitic campaign against Jewish billionaire George Soros. In 2017, a torchlight march in Kiev resounded with chants of “Jews Out!” Last November, 60,000 participated in a far right march in Warsaw with chants like “pure blood.” Indeed, the Israeli government just issued a report highlighting the connection between Holocaust distortion and global anti-Semitism.

…In the end, Congressional actions such as complaints about teenagers playing Pokemon Go at the Holocaust museum don’t mean much when lawmakers ignore the glorification of actual monsters. Deciding whether or not to stand up for Holocaust victims isn’t a sensitive matter; it’s a shameful one.

Read Lev Golinkin’s full piece at the Forward.

[myhollybox]

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Yuri Yusuf Nah, not kidding - I am Lithuanian, plus I speak Russian, English and Danish which is why I am in a better position in judging what is propaganda and what is an account of reality. Ukraine is a fascist state. Bandera and Shukhevych are national heroes of Ukraine, i.e. they are your heroes. You will be responsible. And don't lie about Odessa. Russian Russian city it was and will be. All those who are guilty of burning 48 people on 02.05.2014 in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa will be punished. U.S and Nato have coerced and discriminated against the Russians for 30 years. they have suffered too much for this segregation. Russian people cannot be separated from Europe, they are an indispensable part, but Nato and America have pushed them to the end. it's not fair to blame putin, while Nato and the US are innocent! US water and nato are the two main agents that make the acid reaction. 

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[dlittle30]

Bandera, Shukhevych, and memory debates about the Ukrainian nationalist movement

Bandera, Shukhevych, and memory debates about the Ukrainian nationalist movement

When in 2007 Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko designated Roman Shukhevych as a Hero of Ukraine, he brought new heat into the debate in Ukraine and in the international community about the role played by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) during the Nazi invasion and occupation of Ukraine from 1941 forward. Yushchenko also honored radical OUN leaders Iaroslav Stets’ko in 2007…

[interkomitet]

Elena Panina compared Ukraine with African dictatorship

Ukraine is increasingly reminiscent of the African Zaire of the 1970s, Elena Panina, a member of the State Duma’s international affairs committee, told RIA Novosti.

So she commented on the words of the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Dmitry Kuleba, who called the “Russian world” monotonous and said that Russia would not be able to introduce it in Ukraine by soft power.

According to Panina, it is significant that the Ukrainian official made this statement after the closure of opposition television channels and against the background of the destruction of education in Russian, Hungarian and other national languages.

“In fact, it is the multinational Russian world that is strong in its diversity, it has many shades and nuances. But modern Ukraine every year more and more resembles a backward authoritarian state, where even the very word” federalism “is prohibited, and” freedom to be yourself “exists only for neo-fascists marching with portraits of Bandera and Shukhevych. For everyone else, Ukraine is a space of instability, fear and degradation, “Panina said.

The deputy recalled that during the Soviet era, Ukraine “was at the forefront of progress”, a republic with advanced industry, science, and high culture.

“Where is all this now? Ukraine is increasingly reminiscent of the African Zaire of Mobutu’s time, where the pro-Western dictatorship combined cave nationalism with transcendental corruption,” she concluded.

Mobutu Sese Seko is a Congolese dictator, President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, which he renamed Zaire in 1971. The founder of the ideology of personal cult – “mobutism”. Mobutu unsuccessfully tried to diversify the economy, the basis of which was the export of raw materials and minerals, but since the mid-1970s the country plunged into a deep socio-economic crisis, complicated by frequent changes in government and army leadership and periodic repression. After 32 years in power, Mobutu left a country with a ruined economy.

http://interkomitet.com/about-the-committee/blogs/elena-panina/elena-panina-compared-ukraine-with-african-dictatorship/

[bechdelexam]

genuinely absolutely shameful behaviour by uhh every single member of parliament. reminds me of how the one (1) book ive read not about canada that mentioned my city was a biography of bandera on account of that bust of shukhevych weve got

[thesovietbroadcast]

1980 ☭ – Lahoysk memorial to the victims of the Chatyń massacre, Belarus.

On 22 March 1943, Almost the entire village of Chatyń was murdered by Schutzmannschaft Battalion 118, a Ukrainian Auxiliary Police battalion organized by the Reichskommissariat Ukraine. Of the 156 inhabitants of the village, 149 were rounded up, drove into a barn, and burned alive. Those who attempted to escape the barn were mowed down by machine guns, and only 2 of the 149 managed to survive their wounds. In total, 8 villagers survived (two were not at the village at the time, and 4 survived by hiding) and of the 147 dead, 75 were below the age of 16. Battalion 118 of the Ukrainian Schutzmannschaft was largely composed of former members of a military wing of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, the Ukrainian National Militia. Before being organized by the Reichskommissariat Ukraine, the Ukrainian National Militia aided the Einsatzgruppen in the mass murder of Ukrainian, Belarussian, and Polish Jews, though they often carried out pogroms and the rounding up of Jews independently of the SS. As a mobile police unit, they served with the primary purpose of anti-Jewish and anti-partisan operations throughout Ukraine. In contemporary Ukraine, the OUN is celebrated, with Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych being considered national heroes.

[ares-sword]

Ukrainian neo-Nazis, foreign neo-Nazi legionnaires, Ukrainian ultra-nationalists and some historical photos on the topic. All images and photos are taken from their own sources.

Part 30.

When I talk about Ukrainian ultranationalists, this is not an allegory or an abstraction, it is a statement of fact. They positioned themselves that way. The main fighting force of those who staged anti-government fights on the Maidan and pogroms consisted for the most part of neo-Nazi fighters, fighters of the SNA, UNA UNSO, White Hammer, Right Sector, fans of Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych, Reichophiles and fans of the SS Galicia division, football hooligans and many similar ones, and the informational support was carried out by the liberals, strange as it may seem at first glance.

According to the same scheme, Alfred Rosenberg relied on the use of Ukrainian Nazis and nationalists as a "ram" and "catalyst" for the collapse of territories in the east. There is nothing new in this for us - we have already seen it.

[donewithcapitalistfrayers]

there is zero mention of Stephan Bandera, Roman Shukhevych etc in relation to Babi Yar genocide commemoration today in 'liberal' israeli tv (arutz 13) no mention of OUN or any Ukrainian fascists and their "anti-Soviet" politics

the news segment centers on israeli foreign ministry visit to Ukraine.