#some tweaks were made so it doesnt look too bland-

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sasse please i’m begging you to drop your thoughts. dump as much as you’d like i just want to hear more about your absolutely banger redesigns

OK OK OK. BRAIN MODE. ON.

How the redesign decisions were made:

So I had 3 rules for myself on how I made these and the options I chose, just loose ones that addressed my personal issues with the designs

Try and make the silhouettes distinct, and have clear, visual shape language in each, with the prime goal to make them at a glance comparable to their animal (within reason)

Limit. The skintight clothing. They are children. What the fuck Thomas.

Try and incorporate as much of each user's personality and self identity into the choices, to make it feel more authentic to the actual character

With that being said onto thoughts on the characters!

Ladybug

First off ditch the skintight suit on a 14yo, bc that is unoriginal, bland, and gross bc of obvious reasons. (I don't blame marinette being uncomfortable and clumsy in the beginning I would be too). Plus, besides the color and the spots, the design doesn't Scream ladybug. At most it looks like a pokadotted spandex suit. Bc thats what it is.

My main goal was to try and figure out how to make her design have that classic big round circle like an actual ladybug shell, and to make her outfit feel more authentically chinese, something I feel like is a major oversight on her entire character (esp paired with how little she actually looks like sabine's daughter and- I am angry). So i went though several concepts and eventually landed on the bisected cape she has! It can flare out like wings and also from the back looks like a huge blownup version of a bug! Since the spotted patern is also there too, but with MUCH bigger spots (and the actual section at the to being black with white spots on the shoulders, like ladybug heads!!).

Animal aspect/function: i think it would be really fun if the cape acted and helped ladybug a bit like real wings. More for soaring and gliding, and generally not a Flight ability, but a way to not rely on the yoyo to do all the effort. Plus a cool visual of the cape billowing and spreading like wings!

Chat Noir

His design tweaks are minimal since honestly they did the best job with him. I just gave some really baggy pants that tuck into high boots to give chat that Classic cat silhouette, where the leggies start thick and get thin. I also made his hair a little wilder, since i think it fits better and makes for a more dynamic, unpredictable hairdo that looks funky and gives a wild cat energy! :]

Animal aspect/function: not a lot! Just that his eyes should be allowed dialation rights to be even more catboy.

Nino (I refuse, carapace is a horrible name)

first. I HATE THE CANON DESIGN SO BAD. it's probably my least favorite design. IN THE SHOW. and that's including all the akumas! It's so bad. The whole thing is unbalenced and weirdly slippery and just doesnt feel like a Solid Deisgn Or Character. They Did Nino Dirty, on Every level.

Research for Moroccan styles and trends were really hard to incorporate into nino's design without breaking the animal shape rule completely (since most stuff tended to be looser, or have flat free flowing skirt shapes which wasn't as easily style-able into a turtle as marinette's more traditional garb), so I decided to go for his personality, taking the hero suit in a skater boy, ninja turtles direction.

His goggles are actually goggles now, since I think that's way more flattering to his face and adds a lot more diversity into the mask shapes and designs! And I figured a good way to balence the very topheavy design out while also thickening up the shapes of the arms and legs to come across more like a turtle's- tripp pants and a denim jacket, all green themed of course <3

Animal aspect/function: i think it would be really fun if the shell was used as a skateboard esque mode of transportation? And if it could expand physically to become a bigger sheild! I also like the idea of nino actually getting a little weaker if the shell is off his back? So not as super strong or agile and not completely invoulrable either. It's a bit of a lose win situation.

Rena Rouge

Ok i AM tweaking the design in the previous post since I realized some better ways to convey my original idea (i struggled with pose so much i got lost in the sauce) but overal- I think it would be fun if the suit was. A Suit! Kind of in line with the snakeoil salesman style, slim chic and crime >:3. And I also thought it would be fun if her mask was actually protruding with a fox nose! Other than that the last tweak was the hair, since the original is a little overdeveloped and far too inorganic, with the Very structured and strict chunking off of hair into the tail shapes with frosted tips- instead I made it so her hair overall blends in a gradient to white, since it makes for a nicer, more simple design. EDIT: I GOT UNLOST FROM THE SAUCE- deciding first and foremost alya should have box braids there is no reason her sisters hair and her hair should be that wildly different- also just cause. Then i gave her a real farmy kind if look to fit that wild fox feeling and also ayla's personal style. Topped off with a HUGE scarf that acts as her tail :3c

Mainly, the canon design is mostly alright, other than the whitewashing and the skintightness of it all- but I really had an issue with her chest area? I'm not sure if it is an actual change in model or if the patern is making it look this way but alya has a weird almost cartoonish way in how her chest is shaped? The booby area is way too pronounced and honestly makes me uncomfortable bc it looks like they slimmed down the waist and made her chest bigger for the hourglass shape? (ok Thomas.) Which is. Hrm.

Animal aspect/function: i think alya deserves tail rights. Aka i think the scarf tail should be allowed to actually move around and wag like chat noir's does. I also think it would be cool if her hair ears were able to twitch? I feel like it would really tie in a bit more of that animalness- and with that if the nose of her mask Also twitched. Like how cool would that be

Queen Bee

Last but not least, queen bee!

My main thing here is in the original design there's honestly a really poor choice in shapes and once again it just fails to convey Bee to me? Plus, there's the uncomfortable fact of the only real area of rest for your eyes in the design is on the crotch area... yikes. (Seeing a trend here y'all)

I really went wild on hers since. Well I think chloe would Definitely take her suit to the most princess level shit. Big bows, huge skirts, stupid complex patterns, she's Literally bougie through and through. Her skirt is to make that Classic honeybee shape, with the actual stripes of her design only on that part. I added the fluffy colar to really puff up the chest area and also make it look more like the bee shape, and then finally tied it off with a huge bow.

I want to alter chloe's weapon too since it feels like a cop out to have it be basically ladybug's, but I haven't fully decided on an idea so if you have thoughts toss them my way!

Animal aspect/function: my favorite idea so far!!! Not only does the bow mimic the wings of a bee, but it also flutters and can actually lift chloe up! Not in a full, sustained flight way, but in short burts with limited height, more akin to how much lift a hen can get. She's can't fully fly for too long. But she cam get started without assistance! (Something i think she'd probably lord over ladybug haha).

WOW! you read all this? tank u,,,