#supportforjt

[swissikssswissiks]

We have to talk about Jutty Taylor!

We all know what's going on on the internet right now. i'm talking about the unpleasant incident with Jutty and i want to speak out about it. I have spent a lot of time trying to understand the situation and form a certain point of view based on the information I already have. and I have read a lot of posts by inadequate people in which they try to cancel JT with bullying, sarcasm, insults and even death wishes.What is wrong with you guys? Instead of looking up a little more information and thinking, you say Taylor is a pedophile, use aggression, and spread misinformation. Many people in general stupidly follow the crowd without hearing any facts or evidence. You are so easily fooled, you believe anything and don't even bother to check it out. Have you ever thought that he may not be guilty and you are now literally ruining his life with your despicable behavior? It's easier for you to write a few insults and cancel the person than to start thinking straight. There have been revelations on Grace but you ignored that. Jutty apologized, but you ignored that too. This young lady provided no hard evidence, moreover, she was even turned down by the police, but you still don't care.

Anticipating your negative comments, I'll tell you that I am not saying he is innocent. I simply don't have the right to say so, but neither do you have the right to say that he is guilty, to call him a pedophile, much less insult him?I urge you to stop this madness as soon as possible and come to a neutral side at the very least. You can't imagine the pain your sarcastic and angry remarks are causing. And if one day it turns out that JT is really not at fault, all the responsibility will be on you. Let me say a little about the victim. I would feel sorry for the girl if the incident actually happened, but I am not sure if her words are true. Again, she hasn't provided any evidence. Some people have even found out that the picture she posted doesn't belong to her at all, and her friend who was supposedly with her on the day of the incident and witnessed it is silent. It's a strange situation, but what's most strange is that the fandom believes her without reason. How do you know her account isn't actually a fake? I also want to say that I think the "always believe the victim" rule is flawed, and in some cases, completely wrong. What makes you think a victim can't be prone to lying? Anyone can lie for certain purposes.

I have to mention the other band members who have been hurt by "fans". Who doesn't know, Liv and Per(and Hayden, as I remember) also received condemnation in their direction because they are friends with JT and support him. What is wrong with you guys? Why does the aggression go beyond one conflict and affect innocent people???? This is outrageous. They are friends with him, which means they know a lot more about JT than the rest of us, they know the truth, that's why they support him. And personal lives of band's members are none of your business. Stop being disgusting and don't insult innocent people.

I urge you to refrain from aggression and hatred, which is already too much in the world. Adhere to neutrality in this situation and stop acting like creatures. Be reasonable and kind people, not tactless, stupid, fierce and disgusting freaks.

Peace and love to all!

[parampampitto-ghost]

Good afternoon everyone, I think it's already clear what we're going to talk about.

today that conflict with Justin Taylor (Swiss) came up again I feel very sorry for Justin because he was showered with many negative comments and today I want to express my point of view and my guesses. You can judge me but this is my personal opinion and I hope that there will be people who are interested in this and it is really important

As many know, on October 18, 2024, a girl who attended Justin's solo concert in MARCH! posted a photo and signed it that Justin harassed her. First he put his hand under her vest, then on her buttocks, and soon on her chest.

Justin himself apologized twice, and said that he was very tired, and besides, the incident happened several months ago, which he might not remember.

After a while I found a lot of information about that girl, that she was about 15 years old, although the entrance is strictly 18 years old. But she was with her friend who was 18 at the time. As I had not heard, she forged a passport to get into the concert, which is already illegal.

and if this did happen, then why didn’t she tell on the very first day?

In the photo we don't see Jatti's hand, but from the position of his shoulder we can tell that his hand is near her shoulder.

Because of this incident that surfaced a few months later, and started a little over a year ago - Justin had to leave the stage in the group "Ghost" it is unknown whether it is temporary or he was excluded. but I hope that people will understand me and also support Jutty

Let me remind you that Jutti was tired at the end of the evening and could not remember everyone, besides there were a lot of people there and it is unrealistic to remember everyone

And I am very annoyed by the fact that many people on Twitter started to offend Justin without really understanding it. I personally saw how they sent him away, cursed him, and told how sincerely they hated him. I will be very interested in their reaction if Jutti turns out to be right. They will either delete the posts or will try to justify themselves.

Therefore, before you offend people on social networks, especially in this situation where little is known yet - This is not normal and completely wrong, understand this!

thank you for your attention!

[lightghoulette]

oh it's interesting to watch the asses of Jutty haters burn. The man has proven his innocence. Twitter can't be saved anymore, because there are people there who have a brain the size of a pea and I want you to promote this post and finally think. stop blaming Liv, stop blaming Per, stop blaming Cosmo, stop threatening Tobias, that's an animal's behavior, I respect those who don't immediately pounce on a person, but first wait for confirmation and precise evidence and no, I'm not defending Jutty now, I'm just saying that in any other situation, you don't need to think with one place, think with your head. Wishing death to a person is too much and I want you to finally come to your senses. Now I want to ask an important question to Jutty's haters, what are you doing? Do you think this is cool? Use your brain. Twitter is a platform where you can't trust people and I finally want you to weigh the pros and cons, first of all, understand that you are insulting him for something he didn't do. I am a neutral party and your insults towards the innocent make you stupid.

#supportforswiss

[swssgh]

what the hell is this. why did people just start making up information and spreading it en masse.many people who can't keep up with all the news get very upset by disinformation, it makes me very angry. I appeal to our supporters, if you see any information that Swiss left or something like that, do not rush to conclusions. Without official confirmation, this information is worth absolutely NOTHING.

stop spreading this crap, please.

Enough already, really, stop doing this shit. I'm so tired of seeing this and being disappointed in people over and over again, seriously. I just want to bang my head against the wall when I see another purulent comment. Think, please, think already.I seriously doubt that you really care about this, you just want to assert yourself and show what a “good person” you are by protecting the “victim”.Well, no. It doesn't make you a good person or anything, it makes you an idiot who's willing to believe anything just to feed his ego.

fuck, i'm so upset about this.

[xxx3nt3r]

daaamn i'm in

i gave my opinion on this situation on tw ( https://x.com/4mph3t4m1n?t=j4wyS8N8ovALDaurlzF0sg&s=09 )

whoever has the time will translate it into their mother tongue

[swissikssswissiks]

Such right words🙏

On the topic of Jutty Taylor and the allegations going around..

Just imagine if they're not true and you've just ended an artists career because you weren't emotionally intelligent enough to make an educated opinion of your own..

All the years of blood, sweat and tears. All the sleepless nights. The missed meals. The travel. The selflessness. The energy and talent night after night, year after year..

Or worse..

Imagine if he's innocent but all the bullying and stress took a toll on him and he took his own life..

It's not even just Jutty but Per and Liv too..

Social media is a scary and un-policed place. Cancel culture is DANGEROUS!

Innocent until proven guilty. And I mean guilty of something illegal, not immoral.

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Believe what you want, but sending vile death threats and ganging up on someone you know nothing about is iniquitous!

[swssgh]

I don't understand. Why do people keep insulting him?Well, that is, if he did something bad (even just in someone’s opinion) I don't think this is a reason to continue writing nasty things to him in the comments and everywhere else. If you want to do something bad to someone, then do it and move on, stop staying in this topic, why does this continue to bother you?Moreover, there is currently no evidence against it, so why don't all the "especially smart" people shut up and stick their heads in the sand?I don't think all these people writing negative comments have ever seen him in person or are familiar with him. I think it's just convenient. People saw a reason to create drama and here it is. Well, good luck rotting in your lonely hole.😘

(Sorry, but I'm really really annoyed by this attitude)

[lightghoulette]

ok, i see that half of the english fd has been brainwashed, that they see in Jutty not an idol, but an object for insults. i want to tell you now the arguments in full and what's what, and then it's up to you, to believe or not, but i hope that after reading you will think.

We all know the situation with Jutty/Swiss and how he was mistreated. It might be confusing for you but I will try to explain. First of all let's start with the photo, it shows Jutty and the supposed Grace, the photo was taken in a bar, which means a 15 year old teenager could not have got there without his parents, Jutty himself said that he was supposed to sing a duet with Liv at this bar but he cancelled. (the age limit for this concert was +18)

secondly, the concert was on March 8th for all ages, and naturally the victim went there, but again the question is, why was the photo taken in a bar and most importantly, Grace's friends wrote that it was BEFORE the concert, and Grace herself said that it was AFTER, let's start with the fact that she could have been nervous while she was writing, but in any case she could have corrected it later.

I know there were other people, but they were adults and this cannot be considered pedophilia or that Jutty is a predator, no, the guys were adults, this is normal, they have the right to refuse him, he didn’t put his hands in their pants and so on, right? As for the police, it is none of our business and perhaps the case was not opened because the evidence was just empty or no one went to the police station.

I'm not trying to win you all over to Jutty's side and defend him, I just want you to finally understand that the man is innocent, that you can hate him, but don't insult him on the internet until it's too late, come to your senses. If you still have the desire to insult him, then reread this post again and again until you accept reality, take off your glasses and think.

[tkzchas]

This expresses all my thoughts on this matter

I'm with you 100% on everything you've said, and I've felt this way all along. I saw a post recently talking about this moral attitude that people have adopted recently, and I've been turning that phrase around in my head since, because it's what's happening.

"Prioritizing cruelty as a form of justice is still prioritizing cruelty."

The rumor mill surrounding this has spun out of control, and the fact of it is that the base story told didn't add up to malicious intent from the very beginning. The man's worst sin is being kind of an idiot, which PLENTY OF PEOPLE ARE. It is in no way comparable to deliberate harm caused and, no matter what, does not justify death threats of any kind to ANYONE. I'm sickened by this fandom's behavior, and I'm hoping that soon these people stop and take a good long look at themselves and their actions and see their behavior for what it really is.

Perfectly said, I’m only glad it’s mainly on twitter. Most people elsewhere seem to be sane.

[swssgh]

I would like to comment on the situation with Jutty. All this looks very dubious, in my opinion. I don’t want to take anyone’s side, because I don’t know who is right and who is wrong.But I really love the ghost group and Jutty as a member of this group so i want to express my support for Jutty and i hope that everything will be fine soon🥺🕊️

(my english is very bad idk)

[swssgh]

I already started writing this post, but my phone closed and the draft was not saved. And I think it's for the best because I was too shocked to say anything less depressing(I said that my eternal apathy would return because of his departure). Now there's some other information that gives me hope, and fuck, I really hope it's not "hope always dies last"

Well, now in order:

1. First the official account (Vanessa) posted this:

2. Then I saw it:

The statement in the first photo differs slightly from the source, so I hope for the best again. Why are you encouraging me? Stop doing this, please. I need accurate information, without hints. I want to be sure of that🙏

Oh, my Satan, I wish it didn't make my psychological state worse (AGAIN)🤞

[swssgh]

guys, the team i am a part of organized a petition!! please sign if it's not too much trouble!!🥺

[swssgh]

um, people, where is your common sense? where is your prudence and brain? why did you suddenly start believing everything that is written on the internet? did your brain suddenly atrophy or something? or the degradation from the internet has reached its peak and now people don't think at all before believing in something. I just don't understand why everyone closes their eyes to all the holes and inconsistencies in this story and just blindly believes everything they are told, it's so stupid. maybe people should start selling their brains? they don't use them anyway, so

there is a slight feeling that all these idiots on twitter and elsewhere are just sitting there like this, when they are told that they are wrong: 🙈🙉