#they're insane and i'm unwell about heroes

[lucassinclaer]

dustin "if you die, i die" henderson and mike [jumps off a cliff to save dustin] wheeler and el "they cannot save you, jane." "no. but i can save them" and max "we'd be putting a total stranger at risk. a stranger who has no idea what they're up against. i do" mayfield and will "we have bigger things to worry about now" byers and lucas "she's gonna need some back-up" sinclair

they're 11 and they're 12 and they're 13 and they're 14

[liauditore]

For the ship bingo, perhaps ethubs or boatboys?

sorry it took so long to get to this i got so excited someone asked me to talk abt ethubs i went into a coma 😭😭

Ethubs

um uhh umerm ethubs yeah etho and bdubs and last life and mindcrack UHCs and eyah yknow um yeah

you know that one post that's like "inside my head is a five page essay with footnotes and when i speak it's just ouhghh blorbo he is so shaped". that's me with ethubs. not even kidding ethubs is the ship that made me finally "get" shipping in general, mcyt or not. i. words. i care them.

and uh there's. not rlly anything i can say i think that my ethubs moots haven't already said? They've been friends forever, they play off eachother super well, "he loves me", they're both so obsessed and in need of eachother but at the same time would rather eat raw, unpicked cactus than admit that, etc etc they're so unwell

im just gonna skip on over to the song lyrics bit cus i. they make my brain short circuit i cant even sentences.

The scarlet summer is gone and peaceful gray is draping the city Alone, I reach out for you to hold me tight, shivering Always the days spent with you warmed my heart and kept me from freezing Although I knew they were gone forever But in my pain, to me you came like the warmest breeze "On nights so cold I know you need some company."

Though only in lonely and freezing times, we held each other close to keep from feeling hopeless nothings And now again I can see summer fast approaching like a storm that there's no stopping Repeating in a cycle Like our mistakes

My love for you is endless, just like the deepest sea And like the ocean blue your complications speak to me I've come to understand you, your parts and inner workings My sun only in winter Only when I need you or else you won't need me

Leave you in Summer, Yet You're In My Fluffthoughts (Ashe translyrics) (sidenote this might be one of my favourite music videos of all time)

Falling so deeply while clinging to love But even so, I feel my heart and it’s floating up above Your true face, such a passionate one, shows your beauty, coming in a flood True, all of our short-lived youth will someday come to end Ah, even so, in my view, it starts right now, yet again

And every day, I found I prayed for you to be always full of happiness that remains Ah, just like this, please wait right by my side, please stay

Tablet (Will Stetson / sayriris translyrics) (after watching LL the first thing i did was make a MV to this song with LL Bdubs and it was still the most insane thing ive ever done fuelled by pure gargoyle inspiration juice)

I wouldn't say they're ~~Divorced~~ quite yet cus Idk if they were ever really married as much as just plain endlessly obsessed with eachother, which they still are. But they definitely broke up lmao

but yeah uh their chemistry is great. bdubs said it best. they've been thru the trenches together.

Boat Boys

Thankfully much less thoughts about these two or else this post would get way too long lmao. I like them but I'm not too insane about them I guess? Etho's very awkward near people he isn't used to which was fun to watch but made their interactions kind of limited for a lot of DL I feel.

Joel's obsession with Etho is hilarious and seeing Bdubs get jealous of his #1 ethogirl status getting challenged is great fun. He's definitely gone through a bit of an arc from "I KILLED ETHO! I KILLED ETHO!!" in Last Life to "Eefo D:< You're making me nervous, eefo D:<" in Double Life to whatever the cow divorce situation was in Limlife. It seems like Etho's otherworldly status has been nerfed in his head and he's much less intimidated by him, while still admiring him in that 'childhood hero' sorta way.

I think because of that I've always seen them a little bit as more of a mentor/prodigy relationship than anything else? Specifically one that Etho is not even aware he's in. Eitherway, I don't really ship them in the romantic sense 🤷‍♂️ etho's just way too aloof and joel's got too much fangirl energy for it to be anything intimate lol

[spookyprime]

Timkon reverse robins has been infecting my brain but in a I think it could be a Conner Luthor au where Conner was always a bit antihero-y anyway and starts coming across Tim as JJ. Their "dad's" collaborating and Conner being interested in this guy whose obviously a bit fucked up. Possibly he was present for one of Tim's lucid periods, sometime when Joker wasn't looking and Conner realised Tim didn't want to be doing this, and helped push Tim away from Joker and to get some help, and Tim drags Conner up with him.

THIS IS MAKING ME INSANE I LOVE ITTT

GOD okay now you're proposing a timeline where it's not the bats that help him get free of the brainwashing but actually an amalgam of his YJ friends who he doesn't meet till he's in his 20s. He didn't have a group of friends as a child hero but he does as an adult and they're all kind of like. Fucked up.

I'm gonna be so unwell about Conner being the one to save him for the rest of the day I hope you know that.

[eternalduos]

ARTIE. News that doesn't have anything to do with anything but im sure you will enjoy nonetheless. NEXT WEEKS EPISODE IS OVER 3 HOURS LONG!!!!!!!!!!! HOW ARE WE FEELING I AM FEELING JOYOUS AND SO FUCKING WHIMSICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I JOINED THE DROPOUT DISCORD FOR 2 SECONDS JUST TO CONFIRM THAT WAS TRUE 😭 AND IT IS, IT WAS SAID IN THE NEW EP ANNOUNCEMENT)

Secondly my #1 fellow Unwell About Ratgrinders person. do you have thoughts on. Anything. What is going on. like i am really fascinated by them and jace going to the mountains of chaos and coming back with the ankarna rage... did they get tpked and revived with ankarna or something? did only some of them die? but at the same time i do hope that the ratgrinders aren't just like total pawns in all this and have SOME autonomy, like maybe they knew OF ankarna a little bit when they chose to go to the mountains of chaos. just bc i think that'd be the coolest outcome...

Also dropping that lucy was kipperlillys closest friend is the most insane thing brennans ever done

FELL TO MY KNEES WITH JOY!!! WE WIN THESE!!! 3 HOUR EPISODE LETS GOOOOO!!!!

Oh my god dude I have so many thoughts. In the past the main reason I had for doubting the Ratgrinders were real villains was that all of our previous student antagonists (Biz, Penelope, even Aelwyn and Ragh) still had understandable "teenage" motivations, and I couldn't imagine why the Ratgrinders would want to bring back Ankarna. BUT NOW???? HOOOOOO BOY. ITS ALL COMING TOGETHER.

My working theory is *definitely* that the High Five Heroes got TPKed in the Mountains of Chaos and got revived by Ankarna, which made them into "rage vassals" of her, agreeing to serve her and try to bring her back if she brought them back to life. I also think that Lucy may not have died with them, and didn't become a rage vassal that early on. And I'm incredibly torn on whether or not Jace Stardiamond died with them too, OR if he was responsible for getting them killed and did it on purpose due to nefarious reasons (I still have a string theory that Jace is another descendant of Athenriel like Gilear, and that's where his divine soul sorcery is from). Or perhaps the Ratgrinders were working *with* Jace and it was more of a conscious thing to begin working for Ankarna? There's even a chance that Jace might've killed Yolanda and the Loams.

Either way it seems pretty clear that the Ratgrinders are now under Ankarna's influence to bring her back, and being revived(?) by her is what made them more full of rage.

(Notably: They're enraged at the *wrong* things and people, e.g. the Bad Kids rather than the system. Because that's conviction without doubt.)

I think that the other High 5 Heroes wanted Lucy to join them, so they submitted paperwork for her to switch from Ruvina to Ankarna (potentially to Jace instead of Yolanda), but Lucy didn't want to, so she rescinded it. Then, Ankarna influenced the High 5 Heroes to kill Lucy so that she would be *forced* to follow Ankarna after Ankarna brought her back to life. But things didn't go as planned and Lucy still refused. IMO this ties up the "Ratgrinders killed Lucy Forstblade" theory as it explains that they very much *did* actively plan to kill her, but they didn't expect her to stay dead, and now still feel very guilty about it.

It was so fucked up of Brennan to say that Lucy and Kipperlilly were best friends. Like oh my god. The super tall giantess frost genasi was besties with the tiny halfling? They really understood each other? Kipperlilly must've thought she was saving Lucy by killing her, so that she could join the rest of them, only to find out that her best friend, too kind and full of conviction, would never come back?

Run me over with a truck. Truly.