#this is so long and i had to rewrite few times bc tmblr didnt save it argg i almost gave up

[beaulesbian]

i have another a veeery long theory/thoughts about will having powers, vecna, mind flayer, and some parallels from  s1-4.

i go on so many different tangents, but its all centered around  will having powers, so i hope it’s not too confusing

I was rewatching 2x1, and when Will went on the check up (in the lab...) and Owens says to Joyce and Hopper this:

the second season is taking place in time from 24th of October 1984 until Halloween and some time after.

this was right before the halloween ep:

this is what made me pause it in the first place.

Owens explains that those nightmares/visions are happening to Will because of it being close to the time when he was taken to the upside down (6th of november 1983). - this is before they knew it was the part of the mind flayer still inside him, so there were guesses what could be wrong.

the anniversary effect:

sounds kind of similar to what is happening now in s4 (i tried to put some of my thoughts about the march days in this post before)

but in summary, s4 is happening in the week of march 21nd 1986

(later in season 2 ep 8 we learn this important date: will’s birthday is on march 22nd)

but the creel tragedy happened in the 50s also in march - around the same days the deaths in hawkins started.

which leads me back to this commentary from Owens about anniversary effects

and here is where it starts to get similar with describing how the vecna victims felt just before being taken

(s4)

Just treat him normally, be patient, don’t pressure him, let him lead the way.

It’s great how once again these dialogues from one season could be used for another. The same thing is happening again - not just with Will, but in Hawkins to many other people, because it’s a circle of trauma, in s4 even more focused on pressure on the kids and their very own specific problems.

and then later in s4x6, with Eleven and Brenner, more about forgotten memories. of memories that a person forgot as a result of trauma, and brain “protecting” them from those memories:

(also note: brenner has so many video tapes which he can show el and she remembers, i dont want to go more into the details here, but i have a feeling that brenner could be actually somehow linked to the mind flayer itself - control over people. he was the doctor that made 001 from henry..)

it’s interesting the day in s2x1 Will went to the doctors, they had a class in school.. about brain and nervous system in humans.

in 2x8 dustin brings up the mind flayer, as a being that with its mind controlls others.

this is basically the same or similar rhetoric that venca/001 was saying, about how he sees himself as a better being than all others-- umm yikes.

this is where i at first thought that it was the mind flayer who wanted to create the undead army, controlling billy to do his bidding, but it could have actually be vecna already.

in 1x8 will was found in library, covered with vines, almost similar to what the monster in s3 did to its victims. expect he was still alive. the vines now in s4 seem more connected to vecna, so it could have been him all along.

the same library, where in s4 robin and nancy found their clues about the creel house tragedy

which finally leads me to this thing i noticed today

zombie boy - on the photo will’s eyes are crossed over, (even different color than the writing.)

what if will wasn’t taken by the mind flayer, but it was vecna all along. what if something connected to vecna got out of upside down just as eleven escaped the lab, the gate was opened, and instead of vecna finding eleven - he found will, because he somehow sensed him too? mistook him for el, maybe?

brenner constantly trained henry/001 and the other kids, 11 too. training them to possibly open the gates, harvest so much power within themselves, other horrible things.

henry said in the beginning - with practice, he learnt more.

what if Will has maybe similar powers, but he never developed them, never practiced them, (just like the star wars comparisons, will being like leia)

at least not consciously.

dnd players handbook 5e: “clerics are conduits of divine magic // harnessing divine magic doesn’t rely on study or training. A cleric might earn formulaic prayers and ancient rites, but the  ability to cast cleric spells relies on devotion and an intuitive sense of deity’s wishes.”

that night in 1x1 will went home from Mike’s house, and saw the shape that could be vecna, he didnt attack Will, instead he stalked him to his home.

will hid on the side of the road and with a closer look it almost seems there was a fog around him, almost obscuring the vision of the creature

that’s when i remembered this part in 2x8, mike telling will another story to bring him back from under the control of the mind flayer:

Fog cloud is a level 1 spell, and can be cast by Tempest domain clerics (amongst other classes).  A heavily obscured area - such as darkness, opaque fog  - A creature effectively suffers from the blinded condition when trying to see something in that area.)

now i’m only missing the Why Will?

what if they got that part of mind flayer (or possibly vecna’s vines) out of will, but he still had something that connected him to upside down

something that could be useful when defeating either vecna or the mind flayer, but also something that connected will to either of them.

i love the analogies with d&d and their real world, so once more this is interesting part in d&d about clerics:

”clerics are intermediaries between the mortal world and the distant planes of the gods” (reminder - vecna is listed a god in 5e, and mind flayers basically think of themselves as gods (more on those later).

in s1 we see will communicating with joyce via the lights, the electricity in the phone, and almost appearing in the gate one time.

because we know the rifts/gates can be open with enormous amount of energy, as in s3 under the mall, and vecna using his powers (by killing) to open them,

what if Will could actually be powerful enough to open the gates between upside down/hawkins by himself, without killing anyone, just with his powers, if he trained them enough?

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that’s all i needed to write down about this. if you’ve read it until here, kudos to you ♥♥ i just have too many thoughts about parallels, deeper meaning, and hopeful towards will having some kind of powers, where he would still choose kindness even over these monsters getting to him.