#thomas astuc salt

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Are there Adrien Salt takes that you disagree with?

I haven't really watched Miraculous recently and I only watched a few episodes of Season 4 so I don't think I can talk about salt takes from episodes I haven't watched, but from what I've seen of the show and the salt takes online, there really isn't much I disagree with.

The difference between Marinette and Adrien is that one of them experiences consequences for their actions (and the actions of other people) and 'learns' as much as the status quo can allow, while the other one is 'perfect' and 'isn't at fault.'

There are moments where Adrien seems like a good person but they're utterly ruined by the way the writers seem to want to pamper the rich, white male. If Adrien actually matured and grew as a character (which he can do based on Kuro Neko, but actively chooses not to) then I would like him. But as of right now, most of the salt takes I've seen about Adrien are valid.

Sure, there are moments in canon which are exaggerated in salt fanfics, but if you don't like that then stop reading salt. Character bashing and salt focuses on the low points of particular characters, and as a result they're going to be very negative towards their subject, but these are typically based on what happens in canon. I would defend the character if the incident people bash was only one moment, but Adrien salt takes are from all of canon.

Once is a chance, Twice is a coincidence and Thrice is a pattern. And Adrien has done far more than that. That's not to ay I fully support canon Marinette. There are Marinette salt takes I agree with as well, but unlike Adrien, the writers blame her for all of her mistakes and the mistakes of others even if she had nothing to do with them. This allowed her character to change and develop in canon.

In Season 1, Bubbler, Marinette stopped the slow dance at the party between Chloe and Adrien because she was jealous.

If the writers make a situation which forces a character to act out of character in order to move the plot along and push a certain shipping agenda, you can tell they know that what they did wouldn't have happened naturally. But what would happen naturally wouldn't be 'interesting' (and it would end the show) so of course they couldn't have that.

Oh and it comes with the added benefit of 'Adrien being perfect' and 'Marinette making a mistake, which she then learns from,' which Ast*c says is a rule of his show.

They want her to trust Chat more?

Her mistake in the finale was trusting people.