#thundercracker

[zeropro]

So we've established Screamer doesn't like smooches from randos (relatable), but how does he feel about smooches from his trinemates? Or affection in general from them?

it's his own damn fault

[sjincer]

made some redesigns so it would be easier for me to draw them yay

+plus silly meme under the cut

[papaquesito]

i did some coloring hehehe

[dailymothanon]

Matching girls ☺️ both working in blue, having sonic related capabilities , and being some of the only more responsible or sensible decepticons (and also being sick of everyone but yknow.) Sometimes I like to think that SDW doesn’t necessarily read Thundercracker’s scripts cuz he already hears the thoughts all about it from him all the way thru the process of TC writing them so he kinda already knows what’s up in the scripts 🙄

Also Soundcracker is a funny name for them, tho I did come up with the name of BoomMic for them I think it’s cute (cuz of TC’s sonic booms and Soundwaves. Well everything sound)

[factual-fantasy]

I've been thinking about adding Skywarp and Thundercracker to my AU for a while now. :0 I'm thinking the two of them and Screamer will be a set of triplets. Not clones or drones or whatever else they may be in other continuities. Any other "seekers" or "flight frames"...? Will not look identical to the trio.

(These are a little batch of test redesigns. I have a looot more passes to do before I'm satisfied! <XDD)

And then Jetfire... I've thought about adding him which is why I've drawn this scene for fun, buuuuuutt ultimately I don't think Jetfire has a place in my AU. It leaves too many plot holes and angst in its wake.

(A ramble on why Jetfire wont work is below! <XD)

The first reason why I don't think Jetfire (aka Skyfire) can exist in my AU, is because of this paragraph from his wiki:

"Millions of years ago on Cybertron, before the war, Skyfire and Starscream were good friends and fellow scientists. On a mission of exploration to prehistoric Earth, Skyfire was lost in a storm. Starscream searched, but there was no sign of his comrade. He returned home."

Now, Optimus does say that Earth and Cybertron have been intertwined for what seems like forever. But -unless there's something I don't know/remember- no living cybertronian ever set foot/made any contact with Earth in any way until AFTER the war began. So how and why did Starscream and Jetfire go to Earth before the war? It conflicts with canon.

The second reason is a simple one really. While it may have worked in G1, I cannot find a logical explanation as to HOW Jetfire was still alive and could be reactivated after crashing into the Arctic. It not like he was put into stasis on purpose and kept in a special pod in the warm desert, like Skyquake. He CRASHED into the ARCTIC. So not only was he wounded but there was literally a WHOLE EPISODE in Prime about how the cold has devastating effects on the cybertronian body. Within HOURS of being there, Optimus Prime and Arcee were literally about to die. There is just no way Jetfire logically survives in this continuity..

And lastly, there's where the story would go afterwards. And I don't like what I see. :(

You see, if I bring Jetfire into my AU, I want him to stay friends with Starscream and stay with him. But making that happen requires me to break at least something from canon.

Option 1: Jetfire stays with the Decepticons and supports their cause. Which wont work because his whole story arc is being an ex-con who doesn't agree with what their doing-

Option 2: Starscream has a redemption arc and joins the Autobots with Jetfire. This is a problem because I would want Thundercracker and Skywarp to go with them. And tbh I don't think any of the screamers can be redeemed. They're cons to their core. To make them switch sides would feel too forced. Plus I like the 3 idiots being cons and getting on Megs nerves XD

Option 3: The timeline is the same as G1. Jetfire splits from the cons and joins the Autobots, leaving the triplets behind. This is obviously sad and I don't want that. 🫸

So with that all laid out, I have Jetfire in the bleachers for now. If I can find a way to solve all 3 of these problems then I'll add him to my AU in a heart beat. And everyone is welcome to correct me on any of these if I got the facts wrong or if you have any ideas on how to bring him into my AU! :0 I want to add him I just don't see a satisfying way to do it yet.

Thank you for reading! :)))

[kylar0825]

宝宝这么可爱。

Thundercracker why were you waiting for Bumblebee like that?

[soulmushh]

3 of them!!! oh command trine how i love you <33

I wanted to do my own little designs for Skywarp, Starscream and Thundercracker, they're so dysfunctional found family to me.

[whalesharkstho]

god i LOVE the way you draw tf bodies!! they’re so wonderful and the shapes always feel so soft and warm, it is BEAUTIFUL. thank you for giving them a bit of fat too, that’s my favorite part :)

thank you!! i’m real glad people like how i draw the robots cuz i LOVE big n chunky shapes…. it’s so FUN to play with posing and perspective and stuff with these guys honestly

AND YES CHUBBY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART…. i like drawing squishy and it carries over to my robots and i’m immensely glad ppl enjoy it X]

[mechncheese]

got inspired by that other ask

OH MY GOD THEY HAVE ICED COFFEE AND WATER FOR ME.. YES THUNDERCRACKER, YES JETFIRE.. I WILL. I WILL LOCK IN..! I WILL !!!

[filthyguts2]

seeker trine + bayverse robert valley nachos

[cosmogii]

Did I promise I wasn’t dead last time? Yes. But I mean it now 😅

Female thundercracker anyone?

[kurokuroku]

'good morning frags'

IDK WHY THEY JUST REMINDED ME OF SCREAM QUEEN CHANELS 😭😭

This is the original picture I used as a reference:

[sjincer]

idk but drawing silly little chibis brings me immense joy

[papaquesito]

they both need therapy

[2taric0]

Get kicked out the house by your ex

Takeover the local retirement home

…Profit?

[lexicorp]

Right! Omg the trine lore is my FAVORITE fanon shit to have stumbled upon istg. Those sorta situations rlly need to be shown more fr. Modern She-rah kinda did it, but then also they gay so it's hard to say sibling lore there XD (tho ppl are so divided on what tf the trine is there too ngl.)

E x a c t l y, in the comic oml. It rlly is an "everyone sucked here" situation. TC really tried, and it's not like he can read Star's mind on how his well meaning words are interpreted either. Then even Warps instinct to throw what he meant to be a lighthearted jab just exploding more than they thought, is like nah they rlly should have read the room better on the sensitivity, buuuut they didn't. And Star has a right to be hurt and pissed about it, but not justified in lashing out in a violent manner. Both of em just over here thinking they can predict the other but failing because of that dissonance created by Megatron.

And ah man, am glad the last panel was really able to hit that note because it rlly encapsulates that divide to me in so many unspoken ways. The third empty seat, Star being distanced even from Soundwave and Megatron in the background when he was talking with sound before, the sharing of passions that Star isn't a part of to persist that closeness in casual conversation, and the final quote between them leading from TC and Warp interaction of "I'd like that"-- just lingers that sense of longing for something dangling out of reach on all angles to me. Everyone has a different perspective lens, and there's just so many factors corrupting the divided visions amongst them leading to TC and Warp not understanding Star's behavior while Star just feels more isolated the more they don't seem to understand or disregard something he thinks they know and just don't care about. (Or just other angles that would be so much to list-)

XD Warp will forever be the pranker menace- but yeah uh that would /not/ have been a good idea at all. It rlly shows how they still don't get why how they responded to Stars voice in the beginning wasn't right. And TC is just /so/ tired-- they all got their ways, whether it healthy or not fr

Lmaoooo and yeah omg dude the kids just being like "man that guy sounds like an aft!" And Star is like " Yeeessssss, *cue maniacal laughter* VALIDATION!" XD

Speaking of coping mechanisms :D ✨revenge✨🔫

*insert very real [not click bait] gif of Arcane splitting TFOne Sentinel style--*

I just had a huge realisation yesterday and I wanted to share this after going through some pretty horrible stuff over the weekend: Something I've always asked myself ever since getting into G1 Transformers was "why do you like Starscream so much even though he's a narcissistic bully? Why are you, someone who is a victim of narcissistic abuse, taking comfort in a narcissistic character?" Well, I think I finally figured it out. Because Starscream is also a victim of that very same abuse. I mean, he's beaten, called names, bullied, unappreciated, abused, and put through the wringer…and he internalised all that abuse because he knew no other way. He had no one to turn to, and the few bots who did support him, he treated like dirt. Once he had that freedom and power, he abused it and became the very thing that abused him. I have no doubt he was always self-centred, selfish, had a huge ego, etc. before all that but honestly? I think Megatron's abuse caused him to turn out the way he did. I could have turned out that way and it's a little scary, some of the parallels I'm drawing with him.

@ichbinmeltdown wrote a great analysis on Starscream that I want to share here:

"Megatron was abusive as hell to Starscream. He treated him horribly, and I legitimately almost cried a few times watching it. There's an episode called Starscream's Brigade that introduces the Combaticons, and I think that perfectly demonstrates the cycle of abuse. The entire world is against Starscream at pretty much every turn throughout the series, but none more so than Megatron. Every word out of his speech synthesizer to Starscream is to berate him, and he's constantly throwing him around, beating him, even ripping out his speech synthesizer in a scene from a previous episode (Hoist Goes Hollywood, IIRC). His own teammates don't like him, and even his brothers- Skywarp and Thundercracker, going off of the idea they're brothers- just... allow Megatron to abuse him. (Not to get into headcanons here, but I personally believe that Megatron's abuse fractured the Elite Trine's family dynamic. They are still brothers and love each other, but they're all too afraid of Megatron to really... stand up for each other as they did in the past.) And Starscream seemed to just snap in this episode. He treated the Combaticons poorly, and even when teaming up with Shockwave, he subjected him to a lot of the same ridicule and torment that Megatron put him through. He failed to realize Shockwave was the one of the only bots who would give him a chance- and unfortunately lashed out at him, which ruined his chances of Shockwave ever being a true friend and ally to him. Once Starscream had finally gotten a taste of power and not being under another bot's boot, he too became the very thing that he lived in fear of. And that really is how the cycle goes- when you're finally free from abuse, it can be tempting to overcompensate and take back all the power you were robbed of, at any cost whatsoever. Starscream, like D16 in Transformers One, snapped up this opportunity."

And the sad thing is, I've seen this in real life and I've internalised some of the abuse I've dealt with too. I'm not proud of it. Like the Seeker Trine, my own family dynamic has been fractured by similar abuse. I know there's traces of narcissism in my behaviour too, and I'm NOT proud of it. Maybe this is why I can forgive Starscream for being a narc, because I can see a little bit of my own personality/attitude/behaviour in him. Maybe it's because I know where it came from, I get why he acts that way and it's not just random and out of the blue. Maybe it's because--and I know this is a bold statement--I don't think he would do some of the stuff my own family did to me (blah blah blah he's a fictional character).

I didn't mean for this to turn into a long rant, so

TLDR: I finally figured out that part of the reason I love and relate to Starscream so much despite him internalising some of the abuse I went through, is because he was the victim of that same abuse.