#wewe's soapbox

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El hitting Angela parallels more to what she did to Max with her skateboard. These are rage issues and not really fight or flight responses.

She does it at the cabin too (s2) when she's just about had it with Hopper. She does it with the guy in forest too.

In season 1 at the lake/river or whatever even with lucas with the door locking and knocking him against the car. Or that that supermarket.

She was at no point in time under actual/perceived mortal danger. Henry in the lab however DEFINITELY was.

El was not happy with henry killing the lab kids - her bullies nor was she okay with outing them. She was merciful towards Kali's abuser because he has kids. Her fight or flight is fight. But her response to anger is also fight.

Also the what have you done flashback was triggered by the blood she saw on Angela's face. The dead lab kids having bled from their eyes and nose? Brenner too with a bloodied broken nose.

It triggers the hint of a memory. She's already feeling weird. And then mike just pulls the final trigger with his what did you do line.

El's violence is girlbossified in the show AS WELL AS in the fandom because women are powerful only if they act like men. This is NOT in isolation. Gunslinger Nancy. Joyce getting into fights. Max being into videogames like boys  ("girls don't play videogames") and skateboarding to show her as being totally tubular.

Erica and Robin are the only female characters who've been allowed to be escape this. They're instead quirky fast talking lesbian and sassy black girl and overall tertiary characters used to prop the male characters around them.

woMEN in stranger things

This is not to say women or men can only be/do/like one thing. However the show has a pattern alright.

It's not so much women hating or male worshipping (I hope so, but also it REALLY isn't). It's just that their (writers') ideas of cool and uncool (not good or bad) are very stereotypically gendered.

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I'd love for ST5 to explore Will's sexuality outside of being Mike's lawn chair. Like obviously not a boyfriend. But like crush(es) or talking about boy(s). Ogling at them. Idk. A very heterosexual queer show.

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ST getting 5 seasons and still not being able to tell its story without feature length movie running time episodes is as close to a confirmation as we'll ever get from the makers about their offensive screen time management (lack of) skills.

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Trying to find Byler cute after realising that the state of their relationship is ALWAYS entirely dependent on Mike's mood.

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Let's AI Noah. Let's blur Noah. Babygirl whatever will you do with the Netflix of it all. Blur the logo?

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About the lamest scene. But canon proof that Willel and Jonel are fanon.

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The lack of injuries on ST when it comes to El is funny. Does she have super strength? (Never discussed) Does she not bleed? (All of this minus powers ofc) Cuz she never looks like she's been through it after going through it.

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Many thoughts bt I'll start with this. No disrespect to gifers y'all are doing god's work. But full disrespect to people who pull gifs, strip it off their context, and analyse something which doesn't exist. Well not in that clipped form at least. Now this goes without saying, bt I'll say it anyway cuz no one's been left untouched by twitter, that this OBVIOUSLY doesn't mean gifs can't be used in analyses. However they're to be used a references to a longer scene/plot point/likewise and not as the source itself. Which seems to happen over time the longer we go without watching a show. It's gifs on a good day, screenshots of looks™ on an okay day. Now I say again, this doesn't mean any post with a gif or a pic is automatically of lesser value or something but a lot of posts do lose value when the basis of it is such clipped content. I don't usually see hardcore analysts doing this cuz they probably (definitely) watch the whole show and relevant scenes multiple times. This is more about how fanon interpretations catch on and replace canon in the collective conscious because of the watered down consumption of source material. A 'Chinese whispers' ification of canon. Well the preface turned out to be way longer than my actual observation so I'll get to it on a different post.

[Author is NOT talking about joke posts]

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Say Kali and Patrick were shortchanged. Crickets. Say El should be less on screen (SHE WON'T) in season 5. I've got mail.

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Again those bitches have me blocked. And I know it's not just about ME. But in general. So lemme say it again. You whiny assholes. Go check what virtue signaling means. And then check what strawman means. And after that check what taking things personally means but for that look in the mirror. No need to point fingers at others.

I think it's only fun when you're rallying against miIevens and calling them homophobic and heteronormative. Is that also for appearing morally superior btw? And on the byler tag ffs where everyone already ships byler. Maybe go check out what negativity means too. By asking people who have to read your same posts different words over and over again.

The critiques on writing got your pants in a twist even Duffers can't come up with (old habits, you see). But calling people who've made approx 1/10th (conservative like wheelers) of the cardboard flavour posts y'all make as virtue signaling is not just gross but like dumb af.

Calling you "irredeemable monsters". Bish where? Random accusations of what? I speak as if I know of all the posts cuz it is quite possible that I do. There's only like 4.5 people in their critique era rn. On the tag I mean.

This is very S3E3 Mike Wheeler of you isn't it?

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What exactly is piggyback?(/gen /strange)

So like this is a question and well whatever the hell I'm thinking about piggyback and just in general the logistics of S4 battles.

Rambly. Not even trying not to be.

So. So far when El has "fought" monsters it's been physically. She was in their presence. RU/UD.

For piggyback she is fighting vecna in a middle plane. Okay how?

She resuscitated Max also while not being physically present there.

She only made herself visible to Will before in S1 in the void. And afaik he is the only one who could actually interact with her in the void apart from the demogorgon. So maybe we can say anyone connected to the hivemind can break into the void and set up 2 way comms. Also Terry. But she could herself also void walk I'm supposing.

An outlier is Heather. Who says help me and is then taken under into a bottomless bathtub. (Probably showing her getting sucked by the mind flayer journey) But how did she see El? Or did she see her precisely cuz she was mid turning? Then why did El not see Billy around? Maybe he wasn't. Also El never sees the flesh monster in the void. Always face to not face.

In other cases it's El being a spectator. There was the one line about Mike "sensing" her in the void. But it is neither here nor there. He was holding a walkie. He did say Eleven before she said Mike but I'm still unsure of how much relevance that has. GENUINELY. Clueless.

Her and veccy have a mind fight which affects her physically while vecna himself is not affected physically until the Hawkins crew molotovs his ass and shoots him. He does FEEL pain in his mind lair through the hive mind but physically he's still doing aerial yoga until the crew double fries him.

Also seen in s2 that what happens to the hive mind can affect you in that in can make you feel pain but it does not PHYSICALLY harm you. Everyone burns you feel the burn but you don't actually burn. As they were trynna get the shadow particles out oh his body. They first try to boil him or whatever. But b4 that he felt pain when the military/police burned the vines n he fell on the field. Now towards the end. The vine burning started way before the shadow monster was out of Will and it seemed like it got out once the tunnels started burning. Which begs the question why was Will boiled at all? Or why did his paladin not give a fuck after making a whole show and dance about how if the hivemind dies will dies. Which again. Makes no sense. Cuz Will's still in there? So either you wait for the monster to detach itself fully before you start burning the tunnels or it does not matter and the monster would've left anyway. Did not save Will from any pain AT ALL.

Mike went in to save his bbygal El. Sorry but Will was not even on his mind. He wanted to be a hero. As he usually does and if he doesn't get to do that he gets pissy. But bro your soulmate or whatever could've died. Hoes before other hoes I guess.

Anyway. Back to the piggyback. Veccy started losing his hold on the hivemind after a multipronged multinational attack on the hivemind. And El too blasted him with the power of turu lob. But it was only when he was flambed and tandoored and flung like a rumali roti was he physically damaged. (Not destroyed tho cuz of his trace mineral rich diet in the UD)

So now another question. I've lost track. How tf did El restart Max's heart in the void? Max was not even present mentally. Deadest of dead. N then through the void here comes El giving her life because.... because.... erm .... hea.....

Also unrelated. Did max not lose her eyes cuz El blasted Veccy off before he could perform the world's worst lobotomy? Or? What's the difference? Since that's the last/2nd last in the sequence. Even her jaw is spared. So I guess yeah he was interrupted. He could take her life but not her jawline.

Sooooo. Any help is appreciated.

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When the sci-fi horror show is actually a superhero show. 🤯

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This show has so much inescapable bad acting. What's it with people sucking up to the directors and the casting department. Casting is not about finding lookalikes but people who can act. I wonder why the ones that manage to ACT consistently had already been discovered by Broadway and Spielberg. Looking at you ****, ***, *****. Honourable mention ****.

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Condolences to the people anticipating a good TFS and ST5.

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It is kinda cute how the Duffers' writing is rated on here. Cuz like that isn't how shit works at all. But ya guys, make it work. And also be patronising as hell while you're at it. The treatment of POC characters or homo-sexuality/phobia (yes that too, sowie) and war and cop worship and sexism and classism and mental health (people not named Max exist) are not exceptions to what is otherwise stellar writing. What the hell are y'all on about? Especially treatment of POC characters.

Ya cuz I'm only keeping my eyes peeled open to see where they falter and ooh POC. Bad Duffers! Everything else is dope I say. Like that's a compartmentalisation that even works. It's not a gangrenous arm that you get to cut off n then be like.....woah now you're gangrene free. Nope it's part of the whole show. You can't discount it to rate the writing. Hello. How's that the only thing you discount (cuz other stuff is considered good writing in most circles)? And then say: the Duffers are great writers but....... No the duffers are mid writers because.......

That's how the sentence is supposed to start bitch. That's how stuff's rated. Go take a course on haterism. It's more holistic. Holistic shitting >>>>>>>>>>> compartmentalised dick riding.

Roger Ebert would have 4 starred everything if he had the foresight y'all have. Just forget the bad parts exist. Four stars that it ended right? Be for fucking real.

P.S. I see who RBs what from where and how the tags differ depending on who is RBed and lemme just say the call is coming from inside the circlejerk cuz you bitches dunno how to dial a number that's not listed in your faves. Tell me you care about Tumblr celebrity without telling me you care about Tumblr celebrity.

P.P.S. I'm POC in that I'm brown. But also not in that my wholeass country is brown. But yet there's shit desis from the des are understanding better than people living in multi-cultural (in terms of countries) / multi-racial race obsessed countries. Which is 🤯

P.P.P.S. Not thinking that one sensitive plotline will be handled well because another sensitive plotline barely exists or is fumbled over massively is perfectly sensible. (Re: homophobia)

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The ozone hole when people realise that Mike was NOT a direct/indirect victim of Troy and the gang's homophobia..........

not anymore than Lucas and Dustin were.