#where's that post that goes stanning jc and jgy is what happens when you get interested in the politics of mdzs

[travalerray]

ideally what I want from MDZS is an epic length series telling me the details of the Sunshot Campaign (HOW DID JC BUILD THAT SECT UP FROM THE GROUND) and everything that happened in the 13 year gap (JGY and his time being the Chief Cultivator is something that can be very personal actually)

okay maybe what I ideally do want is something that delves into the nitty gritty details of the politics and the war in mdzs because I keep crying everytime I have to comprehend the insane amount of things that Just Happen in canon

[sword-dad-fukuzawa]

on wtf happened yesterday, rant/essay ahead

so here's what i think happened the other day: i'm so incredibly not up to date on the current mdzs discourse (which is apparently a war between wwx antis, who are apparently jiang cheng stans, and wwx fans) that the slightest hint of anything that could be perceived as seeing wwx not as "angel baby boy who has suffered too much!" means the wwx fans pull out their bazooka guns. and lose all of their human decency, apparently.

also, for some fucking reason people are making a novel about "gay dudes with swords solve mysteries and have badly written sex" into some treatise on classism. what the fuck. it's. it's not that deep. it's really not that deep.

i keep seeing weird backlash on twt too? i see people absolutely enraged and foaming at the mouth at "those who believe jgy and xy are misunderstood babeys" because said people are "illiterate," "are live action onlys," and generally "wwx haters."

what?

what?

i have not seen a single person in my life who genuinely believes jgy and xy are misunderstood babeys who have done no wrong. i'm a xy fan! yes! i admit this! but it's because i really like amoral, gay-coded villains with a dramatic streak and a penchant for murder, not because i think xy is a great guy. i just think he's compelling and the donghua made him pretty.

so like- do these people exist, first of all, which goes into "does the backlash come from misunderstood tweets or the hot takes of twelve year olds?" because the people who were sending me gross shit were, according to their bios, fully grown-ass adults. GROWN ASS ADULTS. i'd have expected you all to be less of a piece of shit but apparently not.

dude, mdzs fandom is a trip and a half. like, my post that got shit was me saying that wwx and jc, if they ever properly reconcile, will probably end up in a fight. wwx is probably getting punched.

this, obviously, makes me a terrible person for wanting wwx to get punched.

listen. they're fictional.

do i need to repeat that? fictional. they do not exist. and i know better than anyone how attached you can get to fictional characters! just look at my ao3 account. but if you are so attached that the merest hint of your fave getting smacked or something makes you violently angry then you need to take several steps back.

i didn't explain this in the post because it was a one-off sort of thought i had, but here. here's the explanation, as someone who has watched the donghua and read the book and written fanfic for mdzs.

jiang cheng is a violent person! he just is! lots of repressed rage! and this isn't inherently a bad thing because the cultivation world is inherently violent. he and wwx have a complicated relationship where they've sacrificed a lot for each other but also hurt each other, irrevocably. i can hear you say "wwx didn't mean to hurt him tho-" but that does not matter. good intentions only go so far when it comes to interpersonal relationships.

i've always been a fan of the "beat the shit out of each other and make up" form of reconciliation. it's generally unrealistic, but something about the catharsis of it is something that deeply appeals to me.

hence my post that if the yunmeng bros ever make up properly, wwx is getting punched.

and the mdzs fandom made this innocuous, shitposty hc about classism, called me an abuse apologist, and a bunch of other shitty things.

did we read the same book?

jc and wwx didn't have an abusive relationship? at all? it was jc's parents that were abusive, emotionally neglectful, etc etc. not jiang cheng. i don't know where the "abuser jc" thing comes from.

and i resent people saying i dislike wwx. if you follow my blog, you know he's one of my favorite characters. as in, my favorite mdzs character. i wrote an essay on how much of an impact he had on my life and the way i consumed media.

in conclusion: i'm still fucking confused but at least i had hot takes for the genshin fandom to get pissy about and i have deliberately baited them at least once or twice. mdzs, y'all got no excuse.

if you're in deeper with the mdzs fandom and ~the discourse~ than i am, feel free to let me know what pile of manure i accidentally stepped in. otherwise, if this post makes you angry, keep your thoughts to yourself. this is my official statement that i do not want to hear any of it because i've gotten enough harassment from the mdzs fandom, thanks. just block me and move on.