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dkskaoaalal · 2 years
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I'm so tired. I feel like I'm nothing to the one person in my life who was supposed to be there with me through everything. It's all over. It's still over. Nothing is changing, especially how I feel. It hurts so much every day. I'm so tired of feeling like this and idk how to change. The number of nights I end up crying thinking about us, and about you, and about your new life, and the future we don't have anymore and will never have. Wondering what I'm doing and why I bother. I do it for you, and sometimes I find some motivation to grow and heal from the fact that I'm here, so I may as well try to stop suffering. But when I'm up too late, I wonder why. You made me promise, and I did because I love you, but if you don't feel the same way, why am I trying?
Why couldn't you just talk to me? Why didn't you want to try to make things work? I know you tried, and things were hard for you, but I tried so hard to make them easier, and instead of working with me, you just quit. And now I'm the guilty one for making you try so hard for so long and not getting anything out of me and it looks like I never tried, but I asked you so much and so often to help me in specific ways that you just. Wouldn't. You wouldn't listen to what I needed, you just tried to help in your own way, which is something of course, but at a certain point, is it?
And now. I keep trying to ask for help, and you always say you'll be there for me, but you never text me back. I keep making an effort to make plans, only for you to cancel again and again. I'm so tired of being ignored and blown off for days at a time only for you to turn around and worry that I'm mad at you when I can't respond to the text you sent me two hours after I went to bed until noon because work was busy. I'm tired of feeling stupid. I keep trying to ask if you'll go to this movie with me, and you can't even tell me yes or no. Every time I bring it up you just stop texting me back until the subject changes. I know I should take a hint, but you always turn around and tell me not to put words in your mouth. How am I supposed to not do that when you won't speak to me? I have to make some sort of assumption.
I'm so tired of not knowing what to do and always always always being wrong and never getting an answer when I ask you for help and guidance on what to do. You keep hovering in my life, making me feel stupid and leading me along just to watch me trip and fall so you can pick me up and tell me how much you care before you go home and ignore me for another week. I know you don't know what you want, but it's clear that it's not me, so why keep doing this to me?
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rodrigueztha · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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elenaturnerge · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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lindasharonbn · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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mariaajameso · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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miettawilliemk1 · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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evanstheodoredqe · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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janiceclaudetteo · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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wendyjudithqe · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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miettawilliemk · 6 years
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Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
https://ift.tt/2kNVSUK
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mariathaterh · 6 years
Text
Don’t Ever Trust Google With Your Life
So for those of you don’t know, I have a 3-year-old daughter (her name is Harper). Here is her hand:
When she was an even littler girl then she is now, she got pink eye. Bekah and I spent a bunch of time googling and calling around doctors offices and urgent cares trying to find out where you take a tiny kid, with pink eye, at 5 pm on a weekday. After spending a few minutes searching around, in total dad mode, I said fuck it and just took her to the ER at Hoag hospital. First kid, first time I didn’t know what to do -> first ER visit. But I will never forget struggling trying to figure out what I should do via the internet. And I’m pretty good at the Google.
So imagine how many scared people, parents or otherwise, turn to a Google search to get quick, accurate information so that they can make informed choices about their medical care. Sadly, all those people are misplacing their trust, just like I was.
Your Money or Your Life
As many of know, Google has quality rater guidelines for the people who go through and manually rate websites. These guidelines, which you can find here, have a callout section for “Your Money or Your Life” search queries. Here is what they say about pages that target users money or life:
Apparently, the type of pages that require a “very high Page Quality” don’t include Google My Business profile pages, because the profile pages and local pack results for emergency medical services (EMS) are often a dumpster fire.
If you are going to provide users with local businesses for EMS searches, then you have to be on it 99.9% of the time. IMHO, some of the results I’m going to show you are the most ethnically and morally negligent thing to come out of Google in a while. And I say this as a Jew who doesn’t think holocaust denier sites should rank #1 for “Did the Holocaust happen?” and related queries.
Alright, enough of the soapbox, on to the evidence.
Exhibit 1: ‘Pediatric Hospital’
A few weeks ago this was the local pack result for the search term ‘pediatric hospital’ when searching from my house:
This is the vaunted jOE’s pediatric hospital
Yes, you see this correctly.
The #1 search result in a local pack for “pediatric hospital” is a spam listing for someone’s house.
But it’s even worse, as the second result isn’t any better. Dr. Timothy K. Flannery, MD is probably a fantastic pediatrician, with rights at a pediatric hospital; however, that result is entirely useless for someone looking for the nearest pediatric hospital.
And Nexus Children’s Hospital, despite having ‘hospital’ in the name, is a small practice that doesn’t provide emergency medical services.
This SERPs is a complete strikeout in terms of providing relevant search results for something more precious to a lot of people than their own lives, their kid’s life.
Now, on to the chaser. I live in Orange County, CA. We have an award-winning pediatric hospital (Children’s Hospital of Orange County aka CHOC). Where do you think CHOC ranks here?
If you guessed in the #4 spot just outside the pack, well, get yourself a cookie, on me:
And check out those distances. Google displayed further, less relevant search results, then the top tier pediatric hospital less than 8 miles away from me.
Let’s not even get into the fact that Hoag (my local hospital) isn’t even in the results at all.
That would have been a much more relevant result then any of the 3 Google decided to surface. Big shout out to The Hawk aka Joy Hawkins for helping me get jOE’s hospital removed so an actual pediatric hospital can be 1/3 of the results.
Exhibit 2: “Children’s Hospital”
Here is what I get for ‘childrens hospital’
Hey, at least CHOC is the first two results, right? Wrong! The first result is excellent, the main campus of a renowned children’s hospital should rank #1 for “childrens hospital.” The second result is a clinic that doesn’t provide emergency medical services, so not a good search result.
The third result again underscores the problem with an algorithmic ranking of EMS providers. It’s the St. Jude’s fundraising office. It shows up in the search result instead of an actual medical provider. This is likely because it is attached to a relevant entity for ‘children’s hospital’ and is slightly closer to me, regardless that it provides 0 medical services (emergency or otherwise).
Oh, also it’s categorized as a Children’s Hospital despite not providing medical services at the facility:
Add medical providers to the list of businesses that don’t have to follow Google’s Guidelines for Representing your Business
It sucks that I couldn’t get emergency medical services for my daughter, but hey, at least I could choose a locksmith with confidence, amirite?
Exhibit 3: “Hospital Near Me”
Here are the results for “hospital near me”
Literally, none of these are hospitals.
This is the Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine:
I’m sure it’s a good holistic doctors office, but it’s a terrible search result for “hospital near me.”
In fact, the nearest full-service hospitals to me (Hoag & South Coast Global) are both under 5 miles away and are sitting pretty at #5 & #7 in the local finder:
The third closest hospital to me is 4.5 miles away and not even in the finder top 8.
But what’s really important is that Google could monetize this SERP by selling ad space to an urgent care up top. Because priorities.
Again, this one has a chaser. Of those eight results in the local finder, 3 of them are fake/spam listings:
House Call Physicians
Long Beach, Memorial Ca
The Heathers B&C
So let’s recap. When I search “hospital near me”:
There are no EMS providers/hospitals in the pack
The closest hospitals are ranking #5 & #7 in the local finder
There are three fake listings in the top 8 results in the local finder
There is an add for an urgent care at the top of the local finder
It’s pretty obvious the opioid epidemic has hit both the humans and algorithms in charge of these SERPs.
Exhibit 4: “Hospital”
So look, the search query “hospital” in my area is just as borked as all the other queries I have shown you. The nearest and second nearest full-service hospitals don’t show in local search results. Rather than dumping more of the same on you, I wanted to branch out and show how this query is performing in a different geographic area.
This one is a doozy.
My brother-in-law is a swank, sexy murse who diligently provides medical services to the residents of Flagstaff, Arizona at Flagstaff Medical Center (a full-service hospital). I asked him to do a search for ‘hospital’ while at work and send me the results. They are totally craptastic:
The children’s department ranked #1 for the generic query of “hospital” while in the actual main hospital itself is nowhere to be found. On top of that, the second result is a rehab center, and the 3rd result is totally equipped to help with all those x-ray’s & MRIs and CAT scans…
Too bad none of them can provide emergency medical services.
Shawn’s (my BIL) takeaway is pretty on point:
Seriously, never thought of it but that’s a social safety issue imho
You know who nails this search? Yelp! And Flagstaff isn’t even a major metropolitan area. It’s a sleepy mountain town with a public university.
Yelp also has a better result for ‘hospital’ when searching in Cosa Mesa as well. Two actual hospitals (though they aren’t in proximity order, Hoag is about half a mile closer).
So, at least when it comes to EMS search queries, Yelp has Google beat in both major, and minor-outlaying, metros.
WTF, MATE?!?!
Google has a responsibility to fix this.
They have employees who know that these search results are bad, and they also have employees that understand that people rely on these search results. They are actively monetizing them, despite them being objectively horrid search results. All while claiming that they have special scrutiny regarding peoples money & lives.
They can do better than this.
The problem is there is no real meaningful financial incentive for them to fix this problem. There isn’t a lot of ad revenue to be had unless they radically change their local product around. That single paid position on top of the local finder (and a smattering of pack ads and local service ads) aren’t even a drop in the bucket for their yearly earnings. They would have to radically change their local SERPs to increase their ability to monetize.
On top of that, a lot of the problems I surface are a direct outcropping of using programmatic methods to solve potentially life and death search queries. All of the work Google is doing to make the internet “safer” revolves around HTTPs and the migration to a secure web. They are pure homo economicus, they are operating where solving a potential social problem can make them huge windfalls of cash (or protect their dominant market share around paid internet ads and search). There are no windfalls to be had here, just scared people turning to search results looking for information about emergency medical services.
There are potentially two ways they can effectively deal with this:
First, they could disclaim their EMS local search results (and frankly all emergency medical search results) by telling people:
If you think you have a medical emergency stop searching and call 911
Their emergency medical search results are not referrals to EMS services.
If they can put up a message about insecure webforms, or not let you access sites with invalid HTTPs certificates, then they can certainly prevent you from visiting not-a-hospital by telling you that these results are not to be trusted (rather then that they get special scrunity.)
Second, is making hospital and related categories a “protected” category where there is manual verification required. This is relatively similar to the advanced verification process but would deal predominately with existing businesses. I think this would be pretty effective as a lot of the problems with the results I’m pointing out could be dealt with by making sure businesses are properly categorized (and deprioritizing the importance of hospital in the business name). The only problem is this is a manual solution, which Google doesn’t really like adopting.
Whatever they do, they need to figure it out.
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