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Grimm books would honestly be valuable both on the level of wesen and grimm community information and simply as historical books of what would seem like fairytales. With entries signed by names like Rudyard Kipling and talking about things like the voyage of the Beagle, however fictional the story itself would appear, it would absolutely be of interest to kehrseite scholars as well. I'll bet there's a few in museums and private collections that no one involved in keeping them knows is anything more than simple historical curiosities. They are often stolen by grimms and wesen when they're seen on display or a collector starts asking around to try to find out what they've got. Alexander has probably liberated one or two for the wesen council. They're talked about as something of an urban legend in antiquarian book circles, since few collectors that share the fact they have one ever get to keep them for long.

I like to think that if the series had gone on a few more seasons, we would've eventually met one and gotten a few answers about what's actually normal for grimm brought up in the tradition/community.

Even just a loose guideline might've gone a long way. Especially since they started out with foreshadowing elements. There was the key and the mellifer queen's vague warning of trouble on the horizon. Renard in the early days is so hard to figure out. He's shady and seems to have his fingers in a lot of pies, but beyond getting his hands on Nick's key, what even are his goals? Even a little later when we find out he's a literal royal bastard, what are his goals? He wants Nick on side and is in conflict with his family, but what does his endgame look like? Enough power to fend off family interference? Unofficial rule of Portland? Or is Portland ideally a stepping stone on the way to returning to Europe in a position of power? Plotting the downfall of his family from a safeish distance? Any of the above that he thinks is achievable at the time? We never have a very clear picture of his priorities and how they shift. His opportunistic alignment with Black Claw is pretty much as clear as it gets. And that always seemed a bit out of character to me. Renard's never gonna be a morally white hero, but he's never been all bad before now and I don't see him being happy under Black Claw/Bonaparte's thumb. He should've been scheming to take over. He could've been more believably turned by the lure of getting to raise Diana and then feel like he had to play ball to keep her/keep her safe. Or perhaps he should've gone with their plans as a double agent at first and then goes rogue later. Like maybe they find out and pressure him into playing triple agent. I could also buy him starting out on board because of the promise of power to himself and the threat of power used against him if he refused, then soon regretting it and turning again when it became clear how little power he was actually going to be allowed to have.

But I digress. Juliette suffers from a degree of Inconsistently Written Love Interest Syndrome before the whole hexenbiest plotline tbh. Even the hexenbiest power corruption idea they try on doesn't fully wash. Adalind tries to blame that for her past actions, but she's lost her power before and it didn't change her character or behavior one iota. You could argue that things are different next time because she chooses to give it up, but why would she if she's in the grip of a corrupting influence? She's backed into a corner, sure, but that should only make her more reluctant to neuter her best natural defense. It's way too soon for her to trust Nick and co to be her sole line of defense. And why wouldn't the bitch have come back with her powers when the mom juice wears off? I could buy it being something to do with Juliette being artificially hexenbiested rather than born that way. Sudden, scary amount of power blasted into a body and mind not prepared for it does make sense. Maybe being born into 'biesthood is important because you're literally built for it in ways a human isn't. Juliette's fighting it because it's not a natural part of her and she doesn't want it and it fights back. They could've explained it as hexenbiest power feeding the negative aspects of a person's psyche. On overdrive in this case. Foreshadowing could've made her actions more believable as resentments and mixed feelings she wouldn't act on in her right mind but don't come out of nowhere either.

The lead up to HW and Black Claw with shadowy FBI agent trying to recruit Trubel for nothing they explained even to her and then just dropping it for a long stretch is clunky. Kidnapping someone off the street and not even being willing to tell them what you want them for is a truly shit recruitment pitch. And by the time they do know what they're about with that, they never adequately explain how Trubel came around to trusting them after being literally kidnapped more than once? I wouldn't easily believe anything they told me, much less willingly work for them. She gets a cool bike and body armor but everyone working there lives in a cell like concrete box. It looks like Juliette was pretty much beaten into becoming Eve and everyone just seems cool with that? There's something a bit cult compoundy about the whole thing on top of the expected shadowy government op vibe and it's never addressed beyond some disturbed looks when the gang is initially introduced to the whole thing.

I really do love the show, bitching aside. They got so many things right, which makes the things they got wrong that much more glaring. Wasted potential is much more painful than something that was crap at conception, you know?

So what are everyone's theories on the origin of grimms? We have very little backstory/lore on grimms themselves. Are they simply human with some extras, evolution's answer to the predatory wesen species? Were they created in some magical way? Perhaps by humans seeking a way to fight back against enemies they couldn't recognize until they attacked? Or maybe by wesen who either wanted to give humans a sporting chance or maybe use them as tools against other wesen? Perhaps the royals wanted a group that could help keep the wesen under their thumbs? The grimms, of course, ultimately turned out not to make great pets and went off to do their own thing. Or grimms could be wesen that happen to be much more human-like and don't really woge (except for the involuntary eye thing when another wesen woges).

One possibility that makes a lot of sense to me is that they're a kind of off shoot of wesen. Monroe and Rosalee said that when a wesen and a human have children together, the odds are about 50/50 on the offspring being wesen. And it seems that some species, like hexen/zauberbiest, can have kids who are not all one or the other. So, there's gonna be some folks in the human population who are sort of wesen lite or don't manifest any wesen traits, but do have a wesen bloodline. I presume that any of these folks who marry a wesen will likely have better than 50/50 odds of having wesen kids. But what happens if a human with a wesen parent or grandparent marries another human who also has some wesen in their family tree? Maybe nothing a lot of the time, especially if they don't have similar species in their background. But what if you had maybe two or three generations of wesen bloodline humans? It makes sense to me that the kids would start to develop some not so human traits. That could easily turn into something like a grimm, which then develops into it's own thing. The stronger grimm families are ones who (mostly unknowingly) have more marriages with wesen bloodline humans.

There are probably a ton of different origin stories from various groups and cultures, with some similarities and many differences. If Aunt Marie's book collection is anything to go by, the grimm don't keep any information or lore on themselves. It's probably a topic of much debate in scholarly wesen circles.

So what are your thoughts and theories on the origin of grimms?

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I'm all for freeing the smells, but I have to ask what exactly is oppressing them?

i thought all smells were free…?

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Artist!Nick AU with Monroe and/or Rosalee as life models. Bonus points for woged views.

Oooo love this one!

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You start dating a shifter, thinking he's all tough and rugged. All is well until the full moon comes and you're faced with...

a teacup pomeranian

Okay, I'm drawing a werewolf right now, and a funny concept popped in my head.

What if like just how real-life wolven ancestors were bred and tamed into dogs, as modern times came along more and more werewolves interbred and slowly to "fit in" they became like dog equivalents

So once a month, you'd have someone turn into a corgi variants or a labrador or poodle 😆 🤣 😂

You'd still have classic werewolves, but you know now with adorable tamer cousins.

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sure, werewolves are "scary" and "bloodthirsty" and "about to kill me" but have they ever received a little kiss between their ears

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I know people aren't here for the news, but trans folks, I'm thinking of you tonight and how you deserve better.

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Lucifer Mark Pellegrino in Grimm.

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Monroe knows all 👻

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She is judging me so hard rn

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I can’t, you know, say goodbye to everybody.

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Monroe | season one

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Don't worry, you're still not right, it's just one of those ways you could describe it that's technically not too far off, if you know the kind of thing I mean lol

Quick, somebody who's never seen Grimm explain what's going on in this picture

People who have seen Grimm, wrong answers only