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I think William didn't want to use them because he's a petty ass and they weren't agony-y enough for Henry to drag back for PizzaSim, but in the era of GenAI running the Pizzaplex, no one had the creativity to come up with new characters so they dug up old ones they had the license to.

After Security Breach: Who the heck are Roxy, Monty, Sun and Moon. I mean they're cool sure but when? Where???

Roxy, Monty, Sun and Moon in SOTM: Don't recite the ancient texts to me, I was there when it was written.

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How William felt after overworking a grieving man just so he can run him into bankruptcy and not only stealing all of his work but also his house while cosplaying as a savior

God I love this man he's such a fucking brat

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something something obedient dog something

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throws sketches at u and disappears for months* made these while watching secret of the mimic lestplay WOOO

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DISPATCH DESIGN

FNAF FOLKSS I BEGG WE GIVE DISPATCH THE SAME TREATEMENT AS PHONE GUY BUT MAKE HIM A 70'S RADIO HEAD INSTEAD PLSSSS I BEGGGG!!!!!

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Literally. He's a fucking maniac. Don't get me wrong I like him (as in: I enjoy dissecting his batshit little brain), but people getting surprised he's evil... did y'all read the same story I did? He's insane and obsessed. An ego a mile long. He only cares about himself and his wants. He's obsessed with Henry, raves about him in what Officer Burk calls 'near worship' iirc, and then drives him to suicide for the lols. I don't understand how anyone still gets surprised he was already an asshole before 4. IF bro had a before, he was probably like three years old. That shit is baked into him. Dude needs therapy decades ago, but it wasn't really a thing in the 60s and honestly by the MCI I think it's far too late for him. You can't fix someone who wants to be broken.

I don't think he's 'one dimensional, evil for evil's sake.' But that's a better description than WillCare by a fucking landslide.

William Afton character rambling (SOTM spoilers ahead)

I see a lot of people complaining that Afton’s character has “changed” and that he’s “turned him from a villain with a backstory to a one dimensional villain who’s just evil to be evil.”

I hate to burst your bubble, but he’s always been that way. The point of William Afton as a character is that he’s a total loser who hides in a fucking rabbit suit. He’s not some overpowered supervillain, he’s a loser obsessed with becoming overpowered and knocking people off their pedestals so he can take it over.

Why do you think he targets children? They are smaller than him, easily manipulated. Adults are mostly killed by him in a secondhand way (possessed animatronics that he manipulated into doing his bidding), but he’s never the one doing that work.

Why do you think he sends Michael to the bunker? Because he doesn’t care if Michael dies. He knows the risks, but he views his own son as more of a tool.

The Silver Eyes straight up describes him as someone who spent a some of his life mistreated (whether that be he came from an abusive home, or something else), and rather than growing from that and being good — he “takes on the bitter mantle of sadism himself.” If you read between the lines of TSE trilogy, the journals are pointing out that he’s so obsessed with Henry’s abilities that it’s essentially just the incessant rambles of a madman. What does he do? He kills Charlie, which effectively drives Henry to kill himself. With Henry gone, William starts ripping his shit from him.

Sounds familiar? That’s literally what happens in SOTM. Edwin is just TSE Henry with a fake mustache slapped on him. William snatching shit and causing downfalls isn’t a new concept, it’s at the core of his character. He’s an evil man for the sake of self-serving to get what he wants. He doesn’t care about what he has to do, or who he has to knock out of his way, he only cares for himself. The people he surrounds himself are just stepping stools he uses to boost himself, and when he doesn’t need them, he rids of them (we see this in the movie with Vanessa. When she stands in the way of getting to Abby and Mike, he tries to kill her).

William is literally a grown up, bratty kid who throws tantrums when things don’t go their way.

He isn’t a villain born from tragedy, William Afton is a villain of his own making because he likes it that way. He gets joy out of destruction and taking things for himself.

And before anyone tries to bring up “but fnaf 4 is showing that his son died!!” I beg you to put yourself back in the fnaf 1-4 era where one of the biggest questions was “why the hell do nightguards keep coming back night after night?”

Because fnaf 4 wasn’t showing William’s motive, it was showing Michael’s motivation and why he goes through hell to try and undo everything. Michael made a mistake that he’s trying to redeem himself for. A child’s death wasn’t what marked the downfall of William Afton, William did it to himself by being a shady, selfish businessman.

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Y'all I'm so normal about SotM, trust.

[Image description: A half sewn white tiger plush, pattern peices labeled www.cholyknight.com, and a hand with white tiger stripe nail polish]

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no guys, william and henry did not steal springbonnie and fredbear. they already created them. they just commissioned edwin to make them into springlock suits. like i thought that was obvious? there's fredbear memorabilia all over the place, so clearly he was already an established character. its like commissioning an artist, you send them your character's reference sheet and they do what you want them to do with it. i'd also like to point out that they didn't even use edwin's prototypes. edwin's designs are water proof and the springlocks aren't faulty. william's design, on the other hand, is the complete opposite. the difference between the two suits is like night and day. the mimic didn't kill your babygirls, i promise.

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The fact I had a white tiger plush as a kid but lost it in a fire is CRAZY considering I'm a FNAF fan now and white tiger plushes and fires are both very symbolic. What are the odds..

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aww so cuties

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One of my favorite FNAF movie crack theories is that, like Charlie having a secret twin named Sammy in the books, Vanessa has a secret twin in the movies. We don't see him because he's busy self medicating with weed and touring the world with his dog and his totally-not-a-polycule friend group trying to make up for his father's actions by stopping other evil businessmen.

It's Shaggy, I'm talking about Shaggy from Scooby-Doo, Shaggy is secretly an Afton. My evidence is, like PJ Heywood voiced father and son in the games, Matthew Lillard plays father and son in films.

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Michael Afton greatest fictional character ever. His actions are the catalyst for the entire story. He's riddled with guilt. He's a mirror image of his father who is also the villain that he spends his life hunting. He was manipulated into being an accomplice to said serial killer father. He is dead and rotting and still alive. He is empty inside both literally and figuratively. He's a pretty good artist. He has a dry sense of humor. He's plagued by nightmares. He's an arsonist. He likes soap operas. He spends his life trying to fix the pain his father caused and doesn't even get the satisfaction of being the one to finally end it.

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michael afton is fun as a character reason #2397437: I feel like so much of his mindset and his trauma and also the specific ways he's been abused all ultimately tie back to The Bite ('83), which was his fault, which makes it really hard for him (or anyone else) to detangle What's Up With Him, mainly on the basis of his mindset that he doesn't "deserve" to make that moment About Him.

Like, he was traumatized by witnessing the horrific death of his brother firsthand. And he knows on a certain level that that's affected him deeply. But does he deserve to acknowledge (even in his own brain) that him killing his brother negatively impacted him? It surely impacted his brother more. So that moment can't be about him, he would sound horrible if he told anybody that that moment hurt him.

And of course he's grieving his brother, except it's hard to grieve, because why on earth would he be allowed to think things like "I wish my brother were here" or "I miss my brother so much," when it's his fault that his brother is gone?

And his dad is always telling him about how he's a bad person, and rubbing salt in the wound by bringing up how he killed his brother, and on a certain level Mike understands that that's wrong. Like, he knows his dad shouldn't be doing that. But does he deserve to acknowledge that, when everything his dad is saying is true? Does he deserve to say "It really hurts me when my dad calls me a bad person and brings up how I killed my brother, and it's messing with my ability to process that event in a healthy way?" Wouldn't that be a selfish thing to say?

And so then we get all these issues of like, because Mike's perspective on what he deserves and what he's allowed to think or feel is so skewed, it's hard to get to know him and hard for people to understand him, because the way he presents situations is not the way they really are--like, he'd easily tell someone "Yeah, I'm a bad person, I'm really awful to people," and if they take him at face value... that's the end of that! And also internally, he has like a mental block against processing so many things that just keeps piling up, because he keeps having this mindset that he doesn't deserve to process those things or feel those feelings. So he doesn't have a super good understanding of himself or things that have happened to him, either.

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Honestly the best headcanons are one like these.

"But what evidence is there?" None, lol. But it's NEAT, and the lore isn't solid anyway. FNAF is a sandbox, we're here to build castles and dig for treasure, not try to make it perfectly smooth. 🤷‍♂️

michael afton who after getting scooped slowly starts replacing his body parts with robotic prosthetics as his body starts to rot

not on purpose, but he knows more about working with machinery than with the human body, so like, when the flesh on his arm starts to fall off, it's just easier to build a metal casing for his arm than to try and fix it some other way. what's he supposed to do, go to a doctor?

slowly his body stops actively decomposing, slowing down to a stagnant state--not healed, but not getting worse. and he's like half metal at this point.

yeah idk the point of this other than it would be fun and cool

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People getting mad at Gregory but defending Vanessa are wild IMO.

He's like eight guys! Even if he WASN’T possessed at any point most of his actions (in the games) would make sense.

The animatronics are LITERALLY trying to kill him. Does he go overboard decommissioning them? Maybe, but again he's a CHILD.

In Ruin, when he drops the elevator? I still think the subtitle issues point to that being Grimic again (also why would he give her directions to the elevator just to not let her use it?), but even if it was him, he is, again, a literal child.

Meanwhile, Vanessa seems to know about Vanny ("I've compartmentalized him!") and yet doesn't do shit to lessen damage done or take accountability? "I'm occasionally possessed by a child killer. A child is trapped in the building. Should I take him to the exit? No no, I'll lock him in a room and wait. Surely this will go well."

I'm not a Vanessa hater by any means. But I feel the need to contrast the two because Gregory hate is wild to me. I don't think anything an eight-ten year old does in a life or death scenario should be used against them, personally.