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kastle’s first sex(ual) scene could be Frank (preferably bruised, maybe bloody) dropping to his knees, hands at her legs, fingers grazing the backs of her knees and mumbling that he’ll do anything she wants and making the most intense eye contact while he sways a little bit like he does to the point that he’s a pathetic little supplicant and she puts him out of his misery steps back towards the nearest surface and he goes down on her—definitely moaning about it until they’re both a fucking wreck.
could be. 🤷🏼♀️
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elektra calling matt “matthew” while stick calls matt “matty” in the same conversation… ooh gotta love when characters have conflicting ideas about someone in their head. matthew v. matty, elektra viewing him as someone she can make like her, stick still calling matt a childish nickname to invalidate him… the layers
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matt murdock: ugh i cant believe you have the PERFECT vigilante superhero powerset and you waste it on being a private investigator
jessica jones: ugh i cant believe you have the PERFECT private investigator powerset and you waste it on being a vigilante superhero
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kastle commission by @voidcomett01 ♥ based on hayez's il bacio
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can someone be her fucking friend pleaseeeee
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My main issue with the idea of Karen and Frank together it's that it seems to be born out of a misconstrued notion of Karen's character.
This has anti k*stle discourse, DLDR.
Karen is such a complex, amazing character and more often than not I see her being reduced to what I'd frankly call a prize for another character's development.
The first aspect of this is the fact that people don't seem to understand Matt in the first place.
Matt is the protagonist, and he's on par with Tony Stark on the hall of most complex characters from MCU's universe. First, barely anyone I see online seems to mention the fact that he's a survivor of child abuse and he was groomed by an elder figure into being a literal child soldier after the traumatic death of his own father.
Matt was looking for someone to guide him and to be a father figure and what he got instead was a pos that couldn't handle his own shit so he decided to further traumatize an innocent child. If we think of that and the fact that Matt also blames himself for his father death and I'd say he'd have enough abandonment issues and trauma to last him a lifetime.
There's a reason why Matt gets involved with Elektra and then Claire (kinda) and then Karen and then Jen. I saw someone say that Matt would be fine without Karen because he is handsome and has multiple women all over him and he'd move on and Frank wouldn't and that's a take I have an issue with for multiple reasons.
First being that Karen isn't a consolation prize for whomever suffered the most. She's her own character, she doesn't deserve to be held with accolades of being with a man because poor him, didn't he suffer enough as it is? Karen is more than an after for a character that doesn't want an after in the first place. Frank literally just said he still hears his child telling him to kill, does that sound like a man ready to move on? Ready to love? Ready to stop killing?
It's been 10 years, 10 years of Frank still being the same character we left him with and I get it because he did lose his family horribly, but this isn't a contest on who had to suffer through most shit so therefore they deserve to get the girl.
Both Frank and Matt had been delt terrible cards, both of them went through terrible losses but they're both handling those losses completely differently. If you look at Matt and honestly think that because he sleeps with multiple women and can have various relationships, that means this part of his life is fine then I seriously don't know what to tell you because that's and I'll be even more blunt here, bullshit.
If you think that Matt that clung onto Elektra for years because he truly cared for her can just move on, you don't understand or know Matt at all.
I honestly don't care who Karen ends up with, but I do care about people getting these characters.
Matt doesn't let just anyone into his life or his heart. The fact that he canonically let Karen in without knowing much about her tells her about how important she is to him, the fact that Karen is willing to accept Matt as Daredevil and Matt Murdock even if all that entails says even more.
This isn't about who loves Karen more or who went through more shit so they deserve her, Karen has such a fucking amazing arc and to see being reduced to that is appalling.
I do not care for the love triangle, I don't ship anyone and before y'all come to me saying I sound biased against Frank because of my rant, I don't care. I love Frank as a character and I do wish him happiness, but I can't entertain the idea of forgoing the entire story and character arc of everyone involved just because Bernthal and Deborah have good chemistry and because Frank loves Karen.
He might love Karen but can we honestly say he doesn't love the idea of burning everything to the ground more? Would he be willing to compromise for her? To lay his weapons down, to call off the war he started to wage against those who commit heinous crimes?
Is Frank willing to listen to Karen?
It's easy for Frank to do what Karen asked after the fact, to fix what he broke with empty promises and blown up hospitals. Y'all hold Matt's mistake hostage over his head, act like he's the Devil for pulling away because he was hurt and that's what Matt does when he's scared. But Frank has put Karen in danger multiple times, seemingly not caring if he could or would save her, in situations where he couldn't control the outcome.
Does that make him worse for Karen? Who tf knows? All I know is that it happened and I'm tired of watching people pretending it didn't.
Matt is evasive, he pushed her away, and that's who Matt is and always have been. A hypocrite, someone that lies and evades but holds everyone to standards he wouldn't hold himself over.
Matt is a an eight that goes into 2 when experiencing growth, in my opinion. He's someone who can't let himself be blindsided, he was a kid that grew too quickly and was taught young by someone he trusted that he can't trust anyone and anything.
He's someone that won't afford himself to trust others, he's someone that won't let anyone in, because he can't afford to be left, to be abandoned. He's broken, bruised, he can't let others to see what he has to lose, he can't grasp trusting others to do what he can do.
He wants to trust people, to trust God, to trust in goodness but it's hard because of the armor he put around himself. He's terrified of being proved right about God, about humanity, he wants to trust that there's goodness in everyone but he's terrified that he might be wrong.
He drowns in self hatred, in low self esteem and he wants to see in others what he feels he lacks in himself. He fights for the innocent, for those who can't fight for themselves, for the vulnerable, he shows up for them because he sees as his calling, as his responsibility.
He, like Karen, doesn't believe he gets to have good things, soft things, nice things. Even without meaning to, he internalized Stick' teachings because Stick was yet another person that taught Matt to not let anyone get close to him.
Most of what happened between Foggy and Matt was because he couldn't trust Foggy to stay, he might've trusted Foggy more than he trusted anyone else but he still didn't trust him enough to talk about his senses, to talk about his dad, to talk about Stick or Daredevil.
Hell, DDBA reminds us of that at every single turn. He's barely been vulnerable at all, he put everything into boxes and "moved on" but it's all a lie. It's a facade.
Matt is an extremely broken, ragefull individual that in spite of his anger and self loathing, still tries at every turn to be and to do better. It's one of the things I love about him because he knows his own flaws, but he's still a good man, a good person, that despite all the shit that has happened to him, has an unwavering sense of justice and of what being a good person is.
Karen knows this and she is her own character too. She's flawed, she's human, she isn't some blushing virgin and she doesn't see things even if they're right in front of her (cof Foggy asking her out and her not noticing it was a date and asking him to touch her as if he was Matt cof).
This love triangle is more than "Oh look how miserable Frank is! Here Frank, have your Karen cookie and I hope you feel better in the end!"
And honestly, I don't think Frank's rage is going to die down. If even after years after all of that he's still operating under the same basis, if he's still using violence and murder as tools, he won stop. And what would that mean for Karen?
As I said, if you're giving Frank this much grace, where is this energy for Matt?
And for Karen for that matter?
This honestly feels like the Gale and Peeta discourse, with Gale in Frank's role. Because no matter what happens, Karen will always be tied to Matt (that's what the narrative set up). She'll always come back if that means helping him, saving him - even if she's angry or hurt.
It wasn't by accident that they had her decline Frank's coffee order. It wasn't by accident that he looked so dejected. I think the main difference between Frank and Matt is that Frank is hopeless, where Matt - even if he wavers - still believes in people and still believes they can do what's right. He believes in Grace and mercy.
His path to growth has partly been about learning to trust others, learning that we are all each other get. Him as a religious man had to reconcile that believing in God also meant believing in others and not setting himself up to be like those he tries to stop.
He's finally coming to a point in his arc where he can be vulnerable and open, where he can trust that there are people out there (even if they're few) that will fight for what's right.
Another part of his arc was learning that even with so many lives at stake, taking even one life is too much. "Just one life" is never just one. And once you start justifying as "just one life to take" you never stop.
But Matt started and continued to have meaningless relationships with people because he can't trust anyone to stay and because he couldn't anyone that got he needs to be Matt Murdock and Daredevil. He needs someone who sees him and loves him as both.
And Karen needs someone who sees her as more than just the mistakes she's made. She needs someone that trusts her judgment, that doesn't question her motives and judgment, that gets who she is and why she does what she does.
She doesn't mind the anger, she doesn't care for the danger but she deserves someone that gets who she is, and what she believes in.
This isn't about who deserves Karen's love or who should be with her because they suffered more. This is about who cna grow, who can change, how violence affects these people, about the masks they wear but also about those who can see through them and love us regardless.
This is about what Karen wants and deserves, too.
This is about their character arcs and who they are as characters and how somehow most of the fandom misconstrued that.
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Just pointing out that Elektra went to Matt's apartment when she was rediscovering herself In The Defenders, and it was the only place in the world she could associate with someone actually loving her. She sleeps in Matt's bed, dreams about Matt, and finds a memento from her memorial service which says "In loving memory of Elektra Natchios". Being loved by Matt made a difference. It changed her. She remembers that, if nothing else matters.
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That one scene him saying 'sweetheart' has me in a chokehold istg
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honestly for me matt murdock is like the epitome of cripplepunk and i’m super tired of folks infantilizing him and i’m equally tired of folks only acknowledging how fucking angry he is in the context of the batman “i am darkness i am the night” thing he has going on
matt murdock is literally just this angry punk fighting back in all the ways he knows how, all at once, even when they contradict each other, and i think if folks considered him for the bitter fucking cripple that he is he wouldn’t be thought of as a hero quite so much
like, matt is pissed. he’s fucking furious. he’s furious in a way that doesn’t fit quite so well with this chibi MCU fandom model of superheroes. and everything about daredevil is mild-mannered matt murdock fighting back against the bullshit he has to face every single fucking day. he’s told that he’s helpless and that he’s weak and he might smile politely but then he cracks skulls and he defends his goddamn city. there’s a lot more in that than vengeance and the stereotyped origin story and all of that is wrapped in disability and how matt lives in it
matt turns to vigilantism when he realizes that there are battles he can’t win fighting crime under the law, sure. but i think he also turns to vigilantism when he realizes that no matter how much he succeeds, he’s never gonna be enough for the respectability politics game.
(you can’t tell me that part of him doesn’t want to be caught at it, incidentally. you don’t have the worst-kept secret identity in the entire marvel universe just on accident. i think part of matt murdock is tired of doing all of this and still being called weak and i think part of him wants the world to know he’s daredevil in a self-destructive, righteous kind of way)
matt uses his cane as a fucking weapon and he wears bloody lips and broken bones like they’re t-shirt slogans and matt murdock is not your good-natured, kindly, ever-patient inspiration porn. he’s fucking terrifying, and his experiences are disability experiences. he should make you uncomfortable, i’m claiming him in the name of cripplepunk, fuck off.
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DAREDEVIL 1.12 | The Ones We Leave Behind 2.10 | The Man in the Box 3.01 | Resurrection
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Love how early Daredevil EPs are just Foggy and Co. wondering where their beloved blind friend is and assuming he couldn't have gone far only for it to cut to Matt dragging his mangled body through some blown up warehouse
Peak secret identity comedy that other superhero shows wish they had
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What if you were a little girl who lost her parents and you were abducted by a cruel white man to be trained to fight by his bullshit pseudo-mystic orientalist martial arts cult and they say you're not human and you're built for killing even though they're the ones honing you into a weapon for purposes that they're keeping from you and the white man lets them hurt you until one day (when you're about nine years old, by the way) one of the members of the cult breaks into your room to do something horrible to you and you snap and kill him to defend yourself so they cage you like an animal and discuss killing you right there in front of you like they're talking about putting down a dog and the white man gets you out of there but then he ABANDONS you for reasons he will not explain and everyone expects you to grow up like a normal girl and be a well-adjusted adult despite everything. Happened to my friend Elektra Natchios.
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thinking about this quote in connection w/ frank and how he wore the mask of a u.s. marine with a wife and two kids and their picnics in the park to obscure the internal struggle of reconciling the family man (married maria after three months because he got her pregnant like any good man™️ would) and the soldier that enjoyed the violence
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Kastle, after Klimt
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