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Before I begin, @therese-lokidottir, @ripfic, I have read and understand your interpretations. I'd like to make clear I don't think Thor was a great brother: neither of them were, to be honest.

First, I will address ripfic's comment and clarify myself: “Thor has changed into the brother Loki has always wanted” I understand from the first and second movies that Loki wanted Thor to be more responsible, smarter, and more cunning (and more understanding of Loki). I believe Thor did change in these ways, making him a more appealing brother to Loki. This is the context of my statement. "Loki became more empathetic person” After the events of Avengers, Loki works with Thor to save his girlfriend. When he takes the throne of Asgard, he's not a dictator like he was on Earth, and during Ragnarok he comes to help when he could have escaped. He isn't fully redeemed by any means-- he's a trickster (antihero?) and we love him for it-- but he is arguably more empathetic than in Thor, when he literally tries to kill his brother and commit genocide.

Now, I'll try to reply to therese-lokidottir as concisely as I can.

"so what your saying is--" I could cut you off at the pass here and say "no, that's not what I'm saying" and leave it, but I'm going to approach your points in good faith.

"Thor didn't see Loki because it would have been hard and Thor didn't want to deal with that. Well, Loki went to see Thor knowing it would be hard and still offered to help." The problem here is the two scenes are taken out of context. Why was Loki in prison? Because he'd led an army to invade a world, resulting in the deaths of many people. Thor had an emotional connection to the reason why Loki was in prison, so he has a dilemma about visiting him. Why was Thor in prison? Because their sister had thrown them out of the Bifrost onto Sakar, and Thor had been forced into slavery while Loki hadn't. Loki has no emotional connection to Thor being in prison, so he has no dilemma about visiting him. Why is Thor mad at Loki while in the Sakari dungeon? Because he just found out Loki is alive (again), sort-of banished their father, and now Odin has died. Loki isn't outwardly sad about Odin's death (which is fine, he was a bad person), but Thor is mourning and has little patience for Loki.

"Loki went to see Thor in the hope that maybe he understand the pain of being lied to his whole. Life has proved to Loki that he is loved conditionally and yet in the end he'll always help Thor." I saw that as a bit of a sardonic line, but you make a good point. I agree that Loki has struggled with where he belongs and being loved, as many adoptees do. "In the end" indeed. I don't think that could be said about Avengers Loki, but I do think Loki has grown as a character, showing love for others and Thor even though they might not in return. That's a good character arc.

"Why does the odinfam get credit for "loving" Loki even though didn't provide the care he needed but Loki never gets anything even though he's proven time and again that he really does love his family."

I don't give them credit. The whole family is flawed, it's a Shakespearean tragedy. I would argue they do love him, but none of them show it well. I do want to point out, that Loki's tragic past does not justify his actions as a villain. And as a villain, he does need to be punished for the pathos of the story (including jail time). But I'm glad Loki got a redemption arc (which he did need) because he's such a compelling character.

"Loki is willing to put in the work Thor just wants Loki to do what he wants." I contest that both brothers have put in work. The whole point of the first film was Thor learning to be a better person. When Loki tries to kill him, Thor apologizes. Both brothers are trying, but not in the way the other wants them to, which causes conflict. What I've always liked about the Thor and Loki dynamic is I can always see where both of them are coming from.

"Thor suspects that someone else is behind Loki's actions," Citation needed. I rewatched that scene in Avengers: neither Loki nor Thor suggest a third party behind the scenes. Loki only says "it can't be stopped."

"but when Loki says he can't stop Thor doesn't even bother looking in to it," "But when Loki says he can't stop"-- Thor smiles and says they can do it, together. Then Loki stabs him.

"not even as a strategical move in case the person behind it might cause more problems." That is one of Thor's flaws: not planning ahead. You see him get better at it over the films, an improvement Loki likes, btw. But again, I don't think Thor had any idea Loki was working for someone in Avengers. Maybe he should have, but he didn't.

"Nope, just leave Loki on the floor to rot and never talks to him because it might be hard and so why bother."

"Never" is a bit strong. I think Loki is in jail maybe 2 weeks before Thor breaks him out. Is 2 weeks long enough to process a beloved family member coming back from the dead, committing war crimes, and trying to kill you, all of which they are outwardly unrepentant for? To be fair to Loki, I don't think he expected Thor to forgive him without a little persuasion.

Loki does go to visit Thor immediately on Sakar but, again, Loki isn't angry with Thor at the time.

Before I conclude, a short explanation of my understanding of Thanos and Loki. From the films (I'm not counting supplementary material or interviews), we know Loki ended up working for Thanos and Thanos is not nice to him. We don't know to what extent. We see in the Avengers he can cause pain from afar, not that he can control Loki's actions. From what I can remember, Loki took a lot of joy in attacking Earth, and expected to rule it. And I haven't seen all of the Loki show, but I don't think he ever tells his family that Thanos hurt him, and they didn't know to ask. Thor doesn't even know Thanos exists until Infinity War. So I can't say they neglected Loki in this way, because his adopted family literally had no idea it happened.

In conclusion, I love the Thor and Loki dynamic. I love them both separately, but they're at their best when they're together: and not with Thor ruling over Loki or vice versa, but as equals. I hope we get to see more of that in live action somehow. While Odin was a bad dad and Frigga was arguably passive, Thor's flaws are presented as flaws and he grows through them, as Loki does. Though he's not great at it, Thor tries to love and forgive and understand Loki. Loki also loves Thor, and though he doesn't always show it, when he does he does it with a grand gesture for all to see, which is cute.

TL;DR: Loki and Thor are flawed, fun characters. Loki has a tragic past and becomes a villain, then a hero. Thor is raised as a warrior, becomes a hero, then undergoes immense amounts of tragedy. I don't see the point of pitting them against each other, especially when the characters themselves don't want that.

Dark World: Thor presumably doesn’t visit Loki in solitary confinement for a year, until he absolutely has to. He blames him, cuts ties of bonding over lost mother, threatens him, and is just there to use Loki’s skills because there was literally no one else.

Ragnarok: Loki visits Thor in his populated jail cell on day 1 at risk to his own reputation, bonds over lost father, offers Thor help at the cost of his own safety…

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https://www.change.org/p/department-of-land-and-natural-resources-protect-pololu-valley

I saw this on Tiktok and thought it needed to be passed on. Pololū Valley is sacred land currently at risk of being developed into yet another "scenic tourist attraction" for profit. Activists like @/melemaikalanimakalapua on Tiktok are fighting to have this petition seen by as many people as possible in order to prevent the senseless destruction of this land.

Note that the petition says not to donate to change.org--donations to change.org do NOT protect Pololū Valley.

I hope that by spreading this to tumblr, I can help it reach more people. Please sign this and reblog it if you can!

https://www.change.org/p/department-of-land-and-natural-resources-protect-pololu-valley

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Apple of Discord!Eve: I’m going to rule the world!

AoD!Flynn: No, I’m going to rule the world

AoD!Cassandra: I’m going to kill a bunch of people because science

AoD!Jacob: those paintings are in the wrong order and it’s bothering me

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I do this (wear eye shadow and lipstick w/o foundation) and literally no one has called me out on it. I only ever get complimented on what i have done. And I don’t have great skin.

Wear makeup how you want.

I wish it was socially acceptable to wear makeup but no foundation. Like I want glittery eyelids and pretty lipstick and blush but foundation is sensory hell for me. If I feel pressured to I will put on a very very light layer of bb cream or something, and even that feels kinda blech. I only ever see it considered acceptable to skip the foundation process if your skin is clear on its own and it's like... man what about us chronically broken out bitches. You want us to lather a layer of liquid or powder onto our skin to temporarily make our imperfections less noticeable which in turn will clog our pores regardless of how well we wash our faces and make us break out MORE? If makeup really is, on a widespread scale, "empowering" by nature, then why are there rules based off the preferences of men? Why are there tips for toeing the line between "natural" and "glam"? Why is it an expectation to completely alter your face and still be able to pass it off as your natural state?

The fact that women are expected to look like they crawled out of the womb of photoshop is screwed up as it is, why do we have to have these weird arbitrary rules about the "right" way to wear makeup? This is why gnc men generally have so much more fun wearing makeup than the average woman - the fact that they're wearing makeup in the first place is already considered out of the norm, which gives them the freedom to actually pick the FUN parts of it. On a broader scale feminine men aren't expected to have perfect contour and invisible pores, they get to walk out with tigers and shit drawn onto their eyes and like mint green highlight. But perfection is already expected of women, which is miserable all around but especially if you're a gnc woman, and even if you enjoy makeup you still don't have the freedom to explore anything beyond the boundaries of what men find conventionally attractive.

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tag yourself; I got Pelagianism

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Without saying your actual age, write the age you LOOK in the tags

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<3 <3 <3

ELISABETH CAST BOARD

음 텀블러 내생각엔 안할거같은데^^ 일단 만들어두고 올리고싶을때 와서 올리는걸로 

죽음 금발단발 짱~

i love blonde hair der tod . Although this picture is black and white.

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"zuko is the only valid redemption arc" artEMIS FOWL THE SECOND DID NOT SACRIFICE HIS LIFE FOR HUMANITY AND FAIRYKIND TO BE SLANDERED IN SUCH A WAY

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These are beautiful! I love the lighting.

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We don’t appreciate Butler’s job enough. Best man.

Heads up!

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Is it an Unpopular Opinion that Twelve was sexier in his hoodie than in his Pertwee-esque suit?

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I was looking at the Artemis Fowl wiki page and... i had no idea that NANNI was considered Artemis child. Im not sure how i feel about this

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The assassin you sent after me is part of my found family now

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What happens when you leave me alone with my laptop for too long. 

This will be my reaction to things that kill me.