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everytime I think I block pucchicho (or however you spell his name) he keeps coming back 😭

(blocked bc he has some...interesting opinions on otherkin. Not because he's hateful. He just thinks it's like for little kids)

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being angelkin is so awkward because i’m both the sun of god and atheist 😔

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I miss my scales, my golden, glorious scales. Dotted with flecks of silver and gold and spots of deep, rich, red.

I miss how my wings could lift me off of the mossy jungle floor with such ease.

I miss how my claws could slash and tear through my prey and make marks on mountains.

I miss how my tail would sway through the sky, trailing behind me as I spiraled through clouds.

I miss my body.

I want it back.

-a very sorrowful wyvern.

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my alterhumanity is so isolating but so freeing? im too human to be animal, but im too animal to be human. im in this awkward middle ground and i know that neither group will ever fully accept me for who i am, but i feel like i get the best out of both worlds (to an extent.) i love my humanity even though im glad im not 100% a part of it. in the same way, i love my creature features but im glad i dont get all of the struggles that come with being a wild animal. i love the perks that come with being neither both or in between :3 /ref

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here is a glass of water for your inbox, since its dry :3 /silly

apologies for the blurry quality rah

thank you :3

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More should be understanding of fictotherians. Like, we're beasts too :(

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I hate shifting. Literally despise it. It makes me feel so awkward and just…not human, ig. But in a bad way. I don’t mind feeling different, but the shifting kind of different is just too much.

sorry that this was kind of a rant lol

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pspsps come here our inbox is dry

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I have trichotillomania. I view it as a form of stress plucking and over preening.

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I wish I experienced shifting more often than I do. I feel really weird having multiple theriotypes while also only experiencing shifts for 1-2 of them and my natural behaviors tend to align with only one of my main theriotypes. I feel less valid for some reason not experiencing the same thing other therians talk about.

But at the same time it's also super frustrating trying to figure myself out when I need to sift through a bunch of people who think being a therian is just some kind of roleplay.

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The therian community could be the weird and bizarre safe haven for animals that it was meant to be if folks learned how to block people they don't like. The therian community needs to learn what a block button is.

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In response to last anon about paraphilias.

I understand where your concern comes from and I know you also have the best interest of kids, animals & anything else that couldn't otherwise consent for one reason or another. However I do want to give my own response and opinion to it, as I feel like they fundementally misunderstand a lot of this.

First I want to reiterate that zoophilia is NOT the same as bestiality, and is referred to as such in the field of psychiatry. Licensed professionals make the distinction between zoophilia (The sexual or romantic attraction to non-human animals) and bestiality (The act of sexual contact with an animal.)

I do truly feel like the therian/otherkin community should be opening itself to other forms of expression such as species-affirming packers, and such as exploring therianthrophy in kink. Yes, it is important for many people to remember that bodily we are human. But I do also want to point out that zoophilia or bestiality is genuinely not as clinical as an issue as many therians/otherkins/furries make it out to be. There may SEEM like these communities has a "huge" zoophile problem, but in reality, they are the severe minority - and most zoophiles who DO proudly advocate for bestiality are not in either community. (As somebody who has been around all of these communities. There is sometimes an overlap - As in, zoophilic bestialists are likely going to look at furry art, feral art, and have furry characters. But this doesn't mean that every zoophile is going to be prevalent in either community. They tend to have their own little circles.)

Another point that I want to touch on is the aspect of thought crime in your post, Anon. I notice you specifically use an example of a fox therian being attracted to real life foxes and equating this as an "issue" despite, in your example, Beatrix clearly stated they do not intend on actually harming a real fox. I just want to raise the question why you believe this is an issue regardless? I totally understand thinking the attraction is "icky". It's not the norm after all, so a lot of people are going to misunderstand it. However I do want to say that Beatrix thinking real life foxes are hot, is a non-issue, because Beatrix explicitly stated she does not intend to hurt a real fox. The thoughts in her head cause no harm to the fox, and the fox is physically incapable of even beginning to understand, process, or care about the fact that she is attracted to them. Somebody's thoughts don't always define their moral standpoint, and many of us have thoughts we would never act on. Have you ever worked in customer service, Anon? Or had any experience dealing with a bothersome person and ever had thoughts like "Wow I wish they'd fall off a cliff right now." Notice how you didn't actually intend to or act on those thoughts of hurting another person, you only thought them. Have you heard the saying "What I don't know can't hurt me"? Even if the fox had the same cognitive ability as humans and COULD process the fact that somebody was attracted to it, there have been many, many cases of humans in the same position, and simply asking to just Not be told about it. They would rather not know if somebody was jerking off to them, or their art, or whatever else. THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR EVERY HUMAN IN EVERY SCENARIO EVER, But it is an often scenario that I see in real life and online.

In regards to your system posts about alters and fictives and whatnot - I have little input there. But I will say that I have never seen these scenarios happen, ever, throughout my many years around these sorts of communities. I do also want to point out that if anybody DID ever use these examples to actually harm a minor in real life, then it would be the PERSON'S fault and NOBODY else's. Like, let's place the blame correctly here. If somebody sees cub art online and then goes out and decides to hurt a child, who's fault is that? The person who harmed the child, or the total stranger online who simply posted their art and had no involvement in the interaction at all? Blaming the artist for what people do after seeing their content, especially artists who specifically note and warn that their art depicts fiction and should not be endorsed IRL or taken seriously, is VERY unfair.

There should be a line drawn, but it should be drawn carefully and we should also take the time to look at different situations and scenarios differently rather than trying to apply a non-foolproof guide of logic, morals, or whatever else to every situation. Because the fact is that not every situation and person involved is going to be the exact same. What we should really be doing is asking ourselves, is this person harming anybody? Is this person advocating for harm of beings? Do they intend to harm beings?

There are already plenty of zoophiles who do advocate for bestiality. And I do not support the endorsement or action of bestiality, I do think it's bad, and abusive to practice or even endorse. BUT what I also believe is that we should be doing our best to educate these individuals, instead of shaming them, abusing them, backing them into corners, and cutting off their support systems. We should be trying to educate bestialists about why bestiality is bad. No attempt makes them worse, and I am saying this from experience around the zoophile community. I am also saying this from experience as I have somebody very close to me who used to be okay with the idea of bestiality, whom was educated by a person who genuinely cared, and reformed their beliefs. Now they believe that bestiality is bad, and that we should try to educate those who still think that way.

Touching on the pedophile argument, I truly believe we should be doing the same for pedophiles. The fact is that pedophilia and zoophilia are simply attractions by a clinical definition, and many situations arent inherently linked with the desire to carry out harmful acts on a non-consenting being. Many pedophiles become isolated, anxious, depressed, and end up taking their own lives because of the stigma around pedophilia - Many pedophiles who never want to offend, who never would, many who are terrified of their "secrets" getting out to those close to them. I know of pedophiles who were outed to their families, who have lost all of their friends, family, support system, and more, and end up taking their own lives. Many of them who have never actually hurt a child, who ahve never been inappropriate with a child at all, many of them who are even SCARED to be in the presence of children because they believe themselves to be irredeemable monsters. The fact is that we cannot be isolating these people from the world around them, it does nothing to help. We should be working to get help for these people and erase the stigma. That way, more pedophiles and zoophiles are able to seek out professional help without the fears I highlighted above. And I know you will be asking - What about pedophiles and zoophiles who have offended? Professional help, resources. They should be rehabilitated, and maybe not thrown into jail for the rest of their lives. Maybe they should be temporarily isolated for a while WHILST being rehabilitated with the professional help and resources that they need to get better. We as a society should be focusing on prevention, NOT LETTING IT HAPPEN AGAIN - Not justice and punishment for the abusers. That's not to say that we shouldn't have justice, punishment (to a fair degree, not cruel & unusual punishment) and that victims have to forgive their abusers. But it should primarily be about prevention, not punishment.

Anon, again, I know you have the best interest of kids, animals, and whatever else in mind. I truly know that you wish against the abuse of them, however I believe you are sadly uneducated and misunderstanding of paraphilias, and these incredibly complex and nuanced topics. As somebody with a fascination in the science of sex, these studies are relatively new (as in the last decade or so). I would wholeheartedly encourage you to look into resources, read studies and articles about this, challenge your own beliefs, and do some self reflection. I can even link some resources if you'd like.

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from an unrelated person to the initial anon- First of all, I AM a cat in real life, not a human, and I am deeply hurt and insulted that you would imply otherwise for any therians. Please reflect on your words and refrain from invalidating all therians and otherkin in the future.

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only problem with that is the emojis wouldn't match the theme anymore lol

maybe every few months I should switch up the account's theming to some of my other theriotypes. That might be fun.

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maybe every few months I should switch up the account's theming to some of my other theriotypes. That might be fun.

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Wish there was more discussion about theriotypes that aren't canines or felines. Where are all my reptile therians at

mod has multiple theriotypes, including alligator and tho not a reptile, sharks :)

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[ cw: discourse, zoophilia/beastiality and pedophilia mentions. Maybe more. Cw as you see fit but I feel like these r just . The big ones. ]

For the record, I have no malicious intentions with this and am genuinely curious (and concerned) when I say and ask the following.

As the community opens up to the ideas of animal packers, petplay/otherkinity through kink and attraction to animals, where is the line drawn between being harmlessly affirming of your kintype and being harmful and predatory?

Like, I'm supportive of people doing this that are self-affirming , I am otherkin and I am trans and it'd just be horribly hypocritical of me Not to be , but I feel like it's important for us to remember that physically, we are human . Which, isn't meant to be a statement meant to harm physical otherkin but , I mean . Animals just . Don't have the same cognitive capacity as . We do , a lot of which are comparable to human children . As well as that, animals . Cannot consent . They cannot .

Im no zoologist but Like . You get the point im trying to make .

Being attracted to something that cannot consent ( and Is often comparable to a child in terms of brain capacity, ) is . An issue !

Like, let's compare it to . I don't know , John on twitter who's posting anime children on his account and saying "But GUYSSSSSSS she's not REALLL!! Finding fictional kids Hot isn't the same as fucking REAL kids!!!!!!"

There is a very clear problem here. John finds the kid hot. The kid isn't real, but it looks like a kid, and acts like a kid, and even if John's family says "he's a kid at heart ^_^" or something like that , he is an adult man with a job and taxes to pay .

Now let's Go to . I don't know Beatrix on tumblr who finds a fox hot . The fox is an animal , it looks like an animal, and acts like an animal . And it is real . Now Beatrix is saying "GUYS !!!!! This fox is HOT but its okay Because I'm a fox too and im not REALLY Going go fuck it!!!!"

The problem here is that like John, Beatrix finds the fox hot. The fox is an animal in Every way. Beatrix is not. Beatrix is human in Some capacity. Beatrix is an adult who also has a job and taxes to pay.

Now let's take a system. Boogie Woogie collective. I'm pulling these names out of my ass don't question it. The body is 13 years old, but they have alters that are adults. Their alter, Simon, is 30 years old. Now cue Quentin, bodily 27, who is In love with Simon.

The problem here is that Simon is physically 13 years old. The alters are both adults but Simon is 13 physically and Quentin is physically 27. They cannot date or fuck that would be pedophilic.

And what about , uhhbn. Benjamin, who's fictionkin of ... frisk undertale, and their in canon age is like , 8 , but they're bodily 17. Now cue Albert, who's 7 years old. Benjamin has a crush on Albert. But it's okay because their kin is an 8 year old, right?

NO!!!!!!! Benjamin is 17 years old. In school, probably, maybe working a part time job. Albert is 7. He is drawing pictures with crayons and playing dinosaurs. Just because Benjamin likes to draw with crayons and play dinosaurs doesn't mean it's okay for them to date. You get it by now. Surely.

can you see the point I'm trying to make.

( and before you ask "Anon, equating zoophilia with pedophilia" Yes i am, next question. )

As we open up to these things, I ask you . Where is the line drawn between harmless and harmful? Is there a line? Are we expected to accept zoophiles into our community now? Is this going to lead us into having to accept beastiality because, well, they're an animal too!????

I love not having strict boxes But there comes a point where we have to say "no, wanting to fuck animals is Bad", just like we say "no, just because their alter is 30 years old doesn't mean you can fuck the 13 year old body" and "no, just because she's not real it doesn't make you any less of a pedophile."

And in a hypothetical world where we accept zoophilia

- how long until people try to bring acceptance to beastiality?

- and how long until pedophiles start using that as leverage? I mean, they're already trying to worm their way into lgbtq spaces, making flags and alternate terms to seem less horrid (ex. "M.A.P"), so, who's going to stop them from being like "well hey, we're similar!!!!", and who's Gonna stop them from trying to get into otherkin communities?

- what about CHILDREN. One-way ticket to GROOMINGSVILLE !!!!! We need to think about how many kids have beeb groomed into believing zoophilia (as well as other paraphilias) is okay and normal, inevitably leading them into extremely dangerous situations !!!

- What about Humans , who identify as humans , who are zoophiles . Do we accept them???? Where is the line there? What's stopping someone from saying "well actually I'm a wolf so it's fine!!!" . What stopping someone from saying "well you said it's okay for THEM so why isn't it okay for ME????" which just.

- What about the community as a whole??? I'm not one for watering down identities to appeal to outsiders But what about people who are suddenly being called zoophiles (if not more often Because this HAPPENS ALREADY) when they're just, not????

It all feels like a horrible segway to endangering the entire community. We need to draw a line and I say it's drawn at Literal Zoophilia.

( small bonus : even if you and your partner are both otherkin, comparing that to zoophilia is Weird ... why would you do that .... )

But yeah, this isn't meant to be malicious towards anyone but we seriously Need to think about this and its implications . We really do.

( and personally, I'm not comfortable being a part of a community that's accepting of paraphilias like this, in any way. for those of us that dont, for those of us that dont want to be associated, or dont want the opinion of "zoophilia is bad actually!!" To land them in Big fucking discourse. Where do we go??? Where do we go. )

Thanks for reading.

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