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John Lennon & Paul McCartney.

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Interesting comments made by Francie Schwartz

"Paul still hasn't come to terms with the way his relationship with John foundered after John chose Yoko after a life being John Beatle. Which explains, in part, his tendency to distort the role he played in his estrangement from the first great love of his life."

"I think it was as close as he could come to expressing his great envy of Yoko. The truth is Paul McCartney has been twice widowed. The first great love of his life was John Lennon, and the second, Linda."

"That Paul started painting after John's death is no coincidence. That competition, the clash, the ebb and flow of *that* relationship, was so central to Paul's being, the only love that comes close to being a reasonable comparison is his marriage to Linda and the births of his children."

"For a reason to hold a grudge [against Yoko], think about the possibility of this: She took John from him. And she didn't particularly want to share John with his "ex significant other" on certain levels."

"Paul hates Yoko for stealing the love of his life away from him. No, not Linda.... John! Paul has never forgiven her for that."

"When John and Paul split up (think of them as a couple for a moment) their second mates had to stand by them."

Note: Francie commented all of this in the old beatles forum rec.music.beatles

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Here it is, Beatle People! The official 'Insane Things Paul Has Said About John' list, as created by the people of tumblr

Sources under the cut:

“He was a very cool boy” (@javelinbk)

"Whenever other people do that it always reminds me of John" (@javelinbk)

"We put our names next to each other in our school exercise books" (@beatlepaul4ever)

When was Lennon at his best? "When he was asleep." (@didwemeetsomewherebefore)

"A delicious broth of a boy" (@zilabee)

"A lovely little baby, John was" (@mallowedheart)

"Daddy's room" (@pauls1967moustache)

"We’re songwriting together even if we’re not together" (@midchelle)

"John seemed like some sort of emperor in control of it all" (@blondecasino)

"I'm trying to get my son to have a son and call him Lennon, and then he'll be Lennon McCartney" (@peaceloveandstarrs)

“John and I had millions of fabulous little experiences in Paris” (@divine-sphinx)

"We used to have wanking sessions" (@merseydreams)

"You can be heterosexual and be having a homosexual dream and wake up, and think, 'Shit, am I gay?'" (@skylikeaflame)

"It was a place called Menlove Avenue. [Pauses] Someone's going to read significance into that: Paul and John on Menlove Avenue. Come onnnnnnn" (@s-l-martin)

"I slept with him a million times" (@s-l-martin)

"A wild and woolly genius who it was my pleasure to work with, walk with, talk with, and occasionally sleep with." (@didwemeetsomewherebefore)

"In bed" (@i-am-the-oyster)

"Well, I’m sure Brian was in love with John, I’m sure that’s absolutely right. I mean, everyone was in love with John; John was lovable, John was a very lovable guy." (@whenyourbirdisbroken)

"Dear friend, throw the wine, I’m in love with a friend of mine." (@heartsinthebasement)

"We got very drunk and cried about how we loved each other" (@nikidontsurf)

“Then also we were like married, so you got the bitterness. It’s not a woman scorned this time, it’s two men scorned — probably even worse. And I had to make way for Yoko. My relationship with John could not have remained as it was and Yoko feel secure.” (@thefortunateisle)

"If I was a girl, maybe I could go out and…" (@alienoriana, @majinmelmo)

"You just don’t hang around with your ex-wife" (@javelinbk)

"No, I have a lot of dreams about John, and they're always good" (@notgrungybitchin, @skylikeaflame)

"This (painting) is John’s Room. It just looked to me like John, when he had his long hair and then his cloak or whatever this is. Then I just scratched in that, looked like one of those drawings John used to do. You know his funny little men. So then I called that John’s room … If I’m gonna see a face in a painting it’s highly likely to be his." (@foryouwereinmysong)

"I wish I had sat and just hugged John all the time when we were together.’ (…) I’d just sit around and hug him forever. That’s the depth of my feeling for him" (@theoldmixer)

“Here Today - a love song to John” (@javelinbk, @bluewater9)

"So if you've got someone, you want to tell them you love them, just get it said, don't wait" (@lennon-gal)

And honourable mention for the following stories:

Stalking John all over Liverpool until Ivan officially got them introduced (@only-a-northern-soul)

He’s been telling himself and the whole world that nobody cared about writing songs and his music before he met John. He knew George Harrison. (@greatsaladavenue)

Quitting his job to commit to the band aka explicitly picking John over his father (@adriansfrombrooklyn)

Writing "Here, There, and Everywhere" by John's pool while waiting for him to wake up and write with him alone in his attic (@aint-that-kind-of-blog-bruv)

Taking the one photo of him and john from that night with the cursed pictures with jane and then blowing it up and hanging it in his office at apple (@pauls1967moustache)

Taking LSD so he could join John in his potentially bad trip (@scurator)

The time he vaulted over a table because another man was touching John and Paul had to physically intervene (@scurator)

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John, Paul, and Jim McCartney: “—and in the end he chose me.” (a supplemental timeline)

[Paul] liked it with daddy and the brother… and obviously missed his mother. And his dad was the whole thing. Just simple things: he wouldn’t go against his dad and wear drainpipe trousers. And his dad was always trying to get me out of the group behind me back, I found out later. He’d say to George: “Why don’t you get rid of John, he’s just a lot of trouble. Cut your hair nice and wear baggy trousers,” like I was the bad influence because I was the eldest, so I had all the gear first usually.

So Paul was always like that. And I was always saying, “Face up to your dad, tell him to fuck off. He can’t hit you. You can kill him [laughs], he’s an old man.” I used to say, “Don’t take that shit off him.” Because I was always brought up by a woman, so maybe it was different. But I wouldn’t let the old man treat me like that. He treated Paul like a child all the time, cut his hair and telling him what to wear, at seventeen, eighteen.

But Paul would always give in to his dad. His dad told him to get a job, he fucking dropped the group and started working on the fucking lorries, saying, “I need a steady career.” We couldn’t believe it. So I said to him—my Aunt Mimi reminded me of this the other night—he rang up and said he’d got this job and couldn’t come to the group. So I told him on the phone, “Either come or you’re out.” So he had to make a decision between me and his dad then, and in the end he chose me. But it was a long trip.

— John Lennon, interview w/ Peter McCabe and Robert Schonfeld. (September, 1971)

(Note: I originally posted this on Livejournal some months ago, and figured it would be of reasonable interest and relevance here. The circumstances leading up to John’s implicit “Jim or me” ultimatum are as they have been presented in Mark Lewisohn’s The Beatles: All These Years – Tune In (2013), and I have included supplemental quotes from the same. The arguably fannish editorial focus and general contextual embroidery is mine.)

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Khi bố của Paul - James McCartney biết được rằng con trai mình đã trong một ban nhạc với John thì có hơi khó chịu. Hai chàng trai trở thành đôi bạn sau một buổi diễn tại nhà thờ do chung một niềm đam mê với âm nhạc và quyết định sẽ cùng sát cánh bên nhau trong các buổi biểu diễn. Bố của Paul không nói gì trước mặt John thôi chứ ông cũng chẳng thích gì cái ảnh hưởng mà tên kia để lại cho con trai mình. Nên ông luôn gắng sức khuyên bảo Paul và George là hãy ngừng việc qua lại với John đi.

Sau khi Paul tham gia ban nhạc của John - The Quarry Men, anh đã rủ thêm George nhập bọn. Cả ba càng thân thiết hơn và bắt đầu dành nhiều thời gian với nhau. John thì cũng lớn tuổi hơn chút và đã đang học đại học rồi sau đó lại bắt đầu có trò cổ vũ đám đàn em trong band đi nổi loạn =)))

"Tôi bắt đầu có thêm tự tin và đã từng làm ngơ dì Mimi. Tôi bỏ nhà đi lâu hơn, mặc những gì mình muốn. Tôi cũng từng phải đi mượn hoặc chôm tiền vì thời đại học còn chẳng có lấy một đồng. Tôi đã luôn luôn kêu Paul là cứ kệ những gì bố cậu ta nói và mặc những gì mình muốn đi." - John nói trong 'The Beatles Anthology'

John kể rằng Paul sẽ không dám chống

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/paul-mccartneys-dad-wanted-son-fire-john-lennon.html/

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