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Slowing Down

I’m stepping back from all my Warriors projects for a while, so WCGP is on hold until further notice. Asks and submissions are closed as well. If you have any genetics questions, Sparrowminder and Warriors OC Help are very knowledgeable. And everything you need to know about cat genetics can be found at Messybeast.

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What would the kits for a brown tabby female and black and white male look like? Would there be a chance for a calico female ?

Hey there, Mouse. The most likely possibilities would be solid black, solid gray, brown tabby, gray tabby, and all of those again with white. Since neither parent has any ginger, you wouldn’t see a calico. 

However, if you really wanted a calico daughter, but wanted to keep the parents looking mostly the same, you could have the mother be a brown torbie who just happens to not have very many ginger markings. If that were the case, you could have male kits that are black, gray, brown tabby, gray tabby, ginger tabby, or cream tabby, or any of those with white; female kits could be black, gray, brown tabby, gray tabby, black tortoiseshell, gray tortoiseshell, brown torbie, gray torbie, or any of those with white.

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Hello quick quest what kind if kits would a gray dappled mother and a dark brown tabby father have?

Hello, Mouse! I’m going into this with three assumptions: dappled = spotted tabby, the plain tabby is a mackerel, and dark brown = black-based. With that, I will proceed.

You could most likely have brown (black) spotted tabby, brown (black) mackerel tabby, gray spotted tabby, gray mackerel tabby, solid black, or solid gray kits. As an additional possibility, if both parents carry cinnamon, you could also have cinnamon and fawn variations; alternately, if one parent carries chocolate and the other carries cinnamon or chocolate, you could have chocolate and lilac variations on top of  black and gray.

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Hello I'm working on a story and was wondering what kind of kits a blue-cream tortoiseshell mother and a cream father would have

Good evening, fancycat. You could have blue toms, blue tortie she-cats, and cream kits of either gender. Tabbies are possible, provided that the father is genetically tabby.

If the parents both carry cinnamon, you could also have fawn toms and fawn tortie she-cats. If at least one parent carries chocolate and the other carries cinnamon or chocolate, you could also have lilac toms and lilac tortie she-cats (but no fawn).

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Silverflame

Description: Longhaired blue tortoiseshell queen with amber eyes.

Clan: ShadowClan

Parents: Unknown

Siblings: Unknown

Mate: Unknown

Offspring: Brightflower

Rename? I’ll give a more tortie-implying prefix; Sycamore- will keep the letter S. And as we hear basically nothing about what she was like as a warrior, I’ll assume she was a great fighter. So, she is now Sycamoreflame (or more traditionally, Sycamoreclaw).

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Hey love your tumblr and I have a quick question what kind of kits would a tortie she-cat and a ginger tabby tom have?

Hey, thanks, Mouse! For basic colors, you could have black or ginger toms and tortoiseshell or ginger she-cats. As long the father isn’t genetically solid, you could also have brown tabby toms and brown torbie she-cats.

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Father is a solid black shorthair (oriental) with less than 50% white spotting. The mother is a classic brown tabby longhair (norwegian forest cat) with less than 50% white spotting. What could their kittens look like?

Good evening, Mouse. For starters, no red or tortoiseshell kittens. A lot of what I’m about to say next is really dependent on whether or not the parents carry some recessive genes. Kittens will have either black or blue as their base color, assuming the parents aren’t carrying chocolate and/or cinnamon. They can be shorthaired or longhaired, solid or tabby, with or without white. There is a possibility for more than 50% white in the kittens. As for what exact pattern the tabby kittens will be, it’s hard to say. We know the mother is classic, but since the father is solid, he could be hiding any tabby pattern under there. Based on what’s most common, I would guess that tabby kittens could be classic or mackerel.

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Hello there I'm working on a story and was wondering what what kind of kits a dark gray smokey tabby she cat(Smokecloud) and a black with brown chest and under belly tom (Spidereye) would have?

Hi there, Mouse! I can tell you right off the bat that none of them will be red or cream, and none of them should have any white. Beyond that, it gets a little bit tricky. A smoky gray tabby could be a darker blue tabby, or a black tabby with very little rufousing. And a black-and-brown cat like that could be a black cat with sun damage, or perhaps a chimera. 

For simplicity’s sake, I’ll assume Spidereye is genetically solid black, with Smokecloud as a blue tabby (whether she’s black or blue won’t affect things too much). You could have solid black, solid gray, gray tabby, and brown (black) tabby kits, most likely.

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hello there! I'm planning on making three kits for my two cats, gripclaw (a polydactyl fawn tom with green eyes) and cloudbelly (a black she cat with a white belly and tail tip with amber eyes.) would they be mostly black, since it's the dominant gene? i also assume at least one would be polydactyl.

Hello there, ryebreadloaf! Yes, they should be mostly black (or gray if Cloudbelly carries dilute), possibly even all black if she doesn’t carry cinnamon. If she carries chocolate, the kits could be black/gray or chocolate/lilac. And you’re right, it is likely that at least one kit would be polydactyl. It’s also likely that at least one kit will have some white markings.

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Sandgorse

Description: Shorthaired cream mackerel tabby with amber eyes.

Clan: WindClan

Parents: Unknown

Siblings: Unknown

Mate: Palebird

Offspring: Tallstar and Finchkit

Rename? The prefix is fine, but the suffix has to go. I can’t remember anything exceptional about his skills (there’s tunneling, but that’s secret from the other Clans), so I guess he’s a -pelt cat now. Sandpelt it is!

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I just wanna know if I got the fathers appearance right, so my friend found a white cat with very dark brown points, nursing a white kitten with her points, and a black kitten. I guessed the father was black, and carried the point gene. Do you think I'm correct?

Hi there, Mouse! You are correct that the father has to carry the point gene while not actually showing points himself. Being solid black is definitely a good possibility, though he could just as easily be solid gray, or even a brown or gray tabby (carrying non-agouti). It sounds like your friend has found some lovely cats, and I hope they find a good home!

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So i'm making a thing, and there is about 6 cats living in tunnels, and I wanted to know possible kits for two familys. Family 1. The mother is a classic tortoiseshell she-cat with yellow eyes, the father a white tom with green eyes. They will have two kits, one she, one tom. Family 2. The mother is a gray tabby with yellow eyes, the father a white and brown tabby with blue eyes. They will have three kits, two toms, one she. You can also give name suggestions for the kits (if u want)

Hello there, Mouse! I’d be happy to help. I didn’t give any name suggestions, because I wasn’t sure entirely what kind of names you’re looking for, and there are too many possibilities for kit appearances to know what you’ll end up choosing. This got kind of long, which is why I added a read more.

Family 1

I’m not entirely sure what you mean in your description of the mother, if by classic you just mean that she is a black-and-red tortie, or if you mean that she is a classic tabby. I’ll assume the former for the purposes of my predictions, but if you meant something else, feel free to let me know. As for the father, without knowing anything about his parents, I can have no idea what other genes he might carry, so I’ll give you suggestions based on possible kit appearances.

The son could be red or black. If the father carries red, the daughter could be red or tortoiseshell, but if he carries black, then she will be black or tortoiseshell.

If the father is tabby, the kits could be tabbies, but if he is solid under his white coloring, all the kits will be solid as well. Just note that red and cream cats will be tabby regardless of whether or not they are genetically solid.

The kits can be either dilute (cream or gray) or normally colored (red or black), assuming that the both parents carry dilution.

The kits can be solid white, or have no white at all, assuming the father is heterozygous for epistatic white. It is possible that they may have white spotting, because for all we know, his white coloring could be caused by the white spotting gene. Or he could just be carrying it.

Again, because the father is white, there are so many more possibilities for extra genes to be thrown in there, because I don’t know anything about his parents. I’ve only covered the very basics.

Family 2

This group is a lot more straightforward. Since both parents are black-based, all of the possibilities described can apply to both sexes of kits. I’m assuming that the father is a black tabby, not a chocolate tabby, but again, feel free to correct me.

It is likely that all of the kits will be tabbies, but it wouldn’t be surprising for at least one to be solid.

The kits could be black or gray.

Given that the father has blue eyes, I would imagine that he has quite a lot of white on him (though not necessarily), meaning that he is probably homozygous for white spotting. If that is the case, I would expect all of the kits to have low-to-medium amounts of white.

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Regarding Family Trees

Many of you are probably aware that Su Susann’s “Missing Kits” have been officially declared non-canon. That said, I am probably going to still keep most of her additions, in part because I’m too lazy to go through and change a bunch of stuff in my family trees, but also because much of what she’s said (about family trees, but no comment on the Dark Forest) has been reasonable. I may change some connections, if I find any problems, but then I never had any issues with changing stuff that is confirmed canon, to begin with.

I don’t know where I’m really going with all of this. I guess it’s just because I’ve been asked about Su before, when most people thought her stuff was canon, and now that it’s not, I just wanted to make sure all that was clear, especially regarding how it relates to this project.

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If Sasha were homozygous dominant for ticked tabby, wouldn't all of her kits be ticked tabbies? If so, would Hawkfrost also be a ticked tabby alongside flame point? Also, what would Tadpole look like if he were genetically correct?

Hi there, Mouse! Yes, all of her kits would be ticked tabbies, provided they inherited a copy of the agouti gene as well. Otherwise, they could be solid cats carrying (but not showing) ticked tabby. Assuming Sasha is a flame point (if you are the same person who asked about Sasha’s family before), yes, it would make sense for Hawkfrost to be a flame ticked point. The only bit of his canon appearance that Tadpole can keep is his dark coloring, so I would guess that he would be a red ticked tabby, and not pointed.

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What would Mothwing and Hawkfrost look like if Tigerstar was his canon description, but Sasha was a flame point?

Hi there, Mouse! Hawkfrost would have to be ginger. If he was to keep his blue eyes (which don’t make sense in canon anyways…), he would be a flame point like his mama, assuming Tigerstar carried the pointed gene. Mothwing would be a tortoiseshell or torbie of some flavor.

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Rooktail

Description: Shorthaired black smoke tom with green eyes. I made him a smoke for the sake of passing on the silver gene, and swapped his blue eyes for more realistic green ones.

Clan: ThunderClan

Parents: Unknown

Siblings: Unknown

Mate: Daisytoe

Offspring: Goosefeather and Moonflower

Rename? Nah, he’s good.

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Robinwing (ThunderClan)

Description: Shorthaired chocolate mackerel torbie queen with white paws and a small white patch on her chest. Her eyes are amber. And yes, she is quite different from her canon appearance; I made her a tabby and added in white markings for the sake of future generations, as Fuzzypelt is solid and without white.

Clan: ThunderClan

Parents: Unknown

Siblings: Unknown

Mate: Fuzzypelt

Offspring: Cherrypaw, Chestnutkit, Frostfur, Brindleface, Longtail, Dustpelt, Ravenpaw, and Graystripe. Longtail has shifted from being Patchpelt’s son, because honestly, Robinwing randomly shifting from Fuzzypelt to Patchpelt doesn’t make sense for the monogamous kitties of Warriors. Graystripe’s parentage has changed entirely, because originally it was just gross (Patchpelt and Willowpelt are siblings). He is still a brother of Longtail, just a full brother now; and it makes sense for him to be Ravenpaw and Dustpelt’s littermate, since they were all apprentices at the same time.

Rename? Her prefix still fits. As far as I’m aware, her skills were never discussed much in the books, so she gets the benefit of the doubt. Unless you want a more strictly traditional name (i.e. Robintail), her name is fine.