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I'm one of the anons screenshot and called hilltrash. I was just trying to explain what the anon she posted earlier mean about catfishing & where it came from. After all this today and especially after that I don't think I'm going to be looking at her blog anymore. I guess I just wanted to let people know she's lying about her anons and that they're not from the same source cause they aren't.

It’s because she’s lying to make it seem like less people disagree than really do, just like she’s doing about the catfishing and bullying. I’m pretty sure she used to claim a bunch of anons were the same person when she posted about ouat too.

Do people actually believe that ALL the anons she gets that contradict her are from that one person? That’s ridiculous.

Anyway, if you do, here you go. She’s lying through her teeth. If she blocked that one person like she said she did, they wouldn’t be able to send her anymore messages and some wouldn’t magically ‘slip through’.

A friend pointed out those alert screenshots aren’t even from the right day, time, or say who they are an alert for. You can see the word yesterday half cropped out of one of the pictures. Like geez Melinda, did you even TRY? It’s basic logic here, people.

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lol I sent zumpie and ask about her catfishing and she wouldn't post it

Is any reasonable person surprised? 

When she gets her ass handed to her ((like just happened with those messages calling her out for posting shit that’s going to spread rumors for no good reason)) she either flips out and spews as many insults as possible, or she shoves it under the rug like a guilty little child so one on sees it. 

Let’s just be clear again: What zumpie did, no matter what reason she conjures up, is catfishing. That’s something she’s specifically stated in her own opinion is bullying.

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FUCKING THANK YOU, LUV!

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coming out of retirement just to point this out:

And:

Previously on Zumpie is a liar:

........But, you do kiss and tell...?

BUT YOU’RE MISSING THE BEST PART, KIDS

Psssst THAT’S CATFISHING DUMB FUCK

Before Zumpie goes all ‘but you catfished!’: Yes, I briefly did that to HN and I realized it was wrong and stopped. I only shared what little information I got with Zumpie under the pretense of her now debunked “I don’t kiss and tell!! bullshit and I never posted it publicly ((but she did, didn’t she?)). 

Pretending to be someone’s friend when you’re not for info is catfishing.

Now IDGAF about closeyoureyesandbelieve and this ‘source’, but hasn’t it been, like, proven repeatedly that talking to Z is a really fucking dumb idea because she will stab you in the back the second you say something she doesn’t like? It was stupid on CYEAB’s part to ever think this would stay between her and Z, a lesson some of you might want to learn from.

How much do you want to bet some of the things Z cut from this conversation were also CYEAB making it clear the things they told Z would stay between the two of them, like it was also hinted at in the parts I skimmed through ((this was boring and I couldn’t get past skimming part 2))? It’s funny she cut out a bunch of the beginning where that would have been established, no?

So to all of you Zumpie apologists: This is exactly what is going to happen to you if you disagree with her. She saves her conversations with people and edits them in her favor and does, in fact, catfish people when she feels like it.

Ok back to retirement, just wanted to make all this a little clearer. Zumpie, don’t bother trying to twist this, it’s as black and white as it can get. ETA: Nothing is more sanctimonious, as you constantly say, as trying to justify you catfishing someone about stupid fandom bullshit as by comparing it to ‘revealing a murderer’. I can’t stop laughing, how fucking stupid are you? Buh bye now.

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Did you know Zumpie and her daughter don’t support the black lives matter movement? It’s all on her daughter’s facebook.

WTF? So is she also a closet racist on top of everything else??

Edit: Omg you weren’t kidding...

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Ooooh nooOoooOOo not old hacked up and half missing chat screenies of me being mean to someone I created a whole blog about to be mean to! feigns horror! ((also note how what she posted doesn’t make sense and is cut off in several places. That’s Melinda trying to be clever and hide the entirety of the convo for a reason.))

This is your final ditch effort to drag out this tired ‘I 180ed’ claim? I know this is all you have left to try to play, but God, get over it. 

And you just proved my point, idiot. I know this is a hard thing for you to wrap your head around, Zumpie. But after doing something mean like catfish messaging someone a few times for information that was already publicly available and finding myself messaging you about it, I realized I had truly sunk to your level of petty and gross. 

It’s called a moment of clarity, not a 180, and it happens to people with a conscience when they realize they’re being needless assholes. It’s obvious practically your entire life revolves around drama and bullying people online who think differently, but I’m still young and wanted to avoid becoming as bitter and rude as you, so I changed what I was doing and left. I don’t know why you couldn’t just accept that and leave me alone, but look where we fucking are.

But here I am talking all about myself! Melinda, I think we should all be giving you a round of applause, after all, you actually legitimately cyber stalked someone to the extent you found their real life personal information, and not only showed it to anyone who asked for it, but ALSO posted it ON YOUR BLOG. 

So I’d really quit clutching my fucking pearls if I were you, pumpkin. Catfishing, especially to the harmless extent of this, isn’t illegal. Trying to blackmail someone with the threat of doxing them, which you did several times to HN, and then actually fucking doxing someone, is illegal.  

Oh look, here’s just one of the times you threatened to dox her via blackmail:

So again Melinda, for the fourth time, here are a few points you’re still avoiding answering: 

You blocked me because you know I’m right and are butt hurt you can’t do anything about it. You’ve called basically anyone who blocked you a coward...so ergo...?

HN’s not tag invading anymore - and me talking with her made that happen. Her reblogging something with tags isn’t tag invading. You can’t come up with a real screen shot that she is after you lied several times about it and you’re pissing yourself over it now. Repeating it over and over again isn’t going to change the fact you don’t have proof because it doesn’t exist. Quit trying to pull a 1984 on your followers.

You’re trying to equate fairly harmless catfishing which the subject already knows about to actually blackmailing and doxing said subject.

Yesterday you mocked and degraded someone clearly emotional and who’s mother just died, all because you disagreed with them about a fucking TV show. Shows exactly what kind of person you really are.

You tagged me to start all this and have brought me up several times prior just to whine and mud sling because I’m not helping you bully someone anymore. Tack on some lame af nickname all you want. We chatted like 4 times and we were never friends. Facts are facts.

I can’t believe you stayed up till 3AM fuming and scrolling through an old chat for screen shots over this. I’m just...that is fucking hilarious. I think that gives me triple ‘bet she’ll stay up past midnight over this’ points, don’t you?

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Awwwwww Zumpie bwocked me

Look who can’t take what they dish out! 

How many times has she bagged on people for blocking her? Answer: FUCKING SO MANY TIMES. Like, an insurmountable number of times. Guess she didn’t like someone passing out the facts.

HOWLING WITH LAUGHTER

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So like she’s psycho and doesn’t understand how tumblr works so she thinks no one else does, she went after me for posting something celebrating bh’s breakup and all that, and was like having a go at me for not “properly tagging my hate” when the only tag was rd spoilers bc it was a liveblog and I used the anti name for BH like she had to be looking for it to get mad.

I’m personally not going to celebrate a BH break up, but if you used the anti bughead tag that’s all your business! After tonight it’s beyond clear she doesn’t know how to use tags or understand how other people use them. ((but I do think BH should have been apart longer for legitimate dramatic tension and payoff))

She’s just looking for drama.  I think that’s what her life completely revolves around. She’s on here constantly looking for someone or something to be offended by. Fuck, she @ed me like an ass and I haven’t even been around for months.

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Just wanted to let you know to anyone with basic reading comprehension everything you said makes sense, you rebutted all her points, and why you left makes sense. The problem is that’s not what she wants to hear, she wants you to say HN dug up some massive secret on you so no one sees your rational “this is kinda evil” point and think maybe there’s something wrong with a 52 year old cultivating a bully culture of children to bully children. So she’s not the bad guy. That’s all it comes down to.

HOLY fuck thank you. 

It’s like talking to an infant or like…a plastic spoon. I felt like I was being really clear? But the infant screeches like a banshee incoherently and the plastic spoon folds back around under even the slightest reasonable weight so it’s up it’s own handle.

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WHEW quick cover, Melinda!! SPAMMING accusations at me with ZERO evidence and more ‘nuh uh followers, I’m right because I want to be!” Really a good clean Trump move if I say so!

Don’t forget to read the notes on both my posts though, kids. It has Melinda crying over me ‘not answering questions’ to suddenly ((after I spelled it out even more simplistically for her)) ‘threatening me with the only thing she can thing of!! Just you wait till I wake up tomorrow!!’, which is old info and really pretty much a sad move.

Truthfully, again, I’m just sorry she feels this way...Don’t worry if she deletes those comments or back pedals, I have real screenies, not reblog screenies that are created to make you think something else is going on when it’s not. Really sucks when someone comes at you with facts, doesn’t it Zumpie?

She still can’t come up with an excuse for digging at me months later, lying about PT actually tag invading, or going after someone who’s mom just died.

So quick, Melinda! Get you’re deflection on! I answered all your questions. You’re just grasping at fucking straws now.

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SKSksksksks hahahahahahaha look what post just got suggested to me. 

Good lookin out, Tumblr.

ZUMPIE wins the title for Riverdale Fanbases Biggest Fucking CuntRag.

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I haven’t even gotten through reading Melinda’s response and I’m already laughing at her conceding. “Feel so sorry for you!” “You sound unhinged!” Oookay, Melinda. Notice how she hasn’t addressed anything I provided actual evidence for? Her whole response is back peddling and deflecting. She’s a habitual liar, guys.

I answered all her questions directly and now she’s saying I didn’t? Here’s her ‘Trump’ move as predicted! ‘Nuh uh you didn’t cause I SAY SO!’

Was it the catfishing question? Because that’s like the only thing I didn’t address. Yeah, stop trying to hold that over my head like it will implode the agreement, PT knows all about that two day joke hun. I wanted to know what PT’s secret posts were and BOY was zumpie eager to find out as soon as I mentioned it. It’s something I’ve moved past and you probably should by now too.

You’re just a mean person, Melinda. You are ‘nice’ to people as long as they support everything you think or as long as you can use them, and then you do exactly what you just did to me. It’s clear as day after your last response. 

And you think I ‘wanted you’re approval’? Since you’re doing the whole my dick ((blog)) is bigger than yours, uh, my actual blog is bigger than yours, that’s why I had no problems leaving this one in the first place after I ACTUALLY got something done about tag invading ((something you’re conveniently ignoring)). Are you that desperate for sympathy that THAT’s what you’re going with now? Yiiiiikes...

Again. You came at me after I was gone for months. So please, cry it up a little more dramatically when someone actually comes down on you for your bullshit.

So followers reading both sides, expect this from Zumpie upcoming:

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I've missed you and your sass so much. Please come back.

Thank you kindly anon! It’s unlikely, but I miss sassing it up with you guys as well!

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Nope, it really wasn’t tag invading at all. Reblog tags are not tag invading, how don’t you know this?  

And I presented you with actual facts, and you’re just ignoring them ((all the times you’ve brought my name back up and trashtalked me months later for no reason ((just search 2low on her blogs guys, don’t worry they’re screenshot when she deletes them)), the fact you can’t come up with AN ACTUAL SCREEN SHOT OF PT TAG INVADING LIKE YOU’VE CLAIMED which proves you’re completely lying, saying I haven’t explained my agreement with PT ((in plain easy low count syllable words, may I add)). 

You call people coward for coming at you on anon and you call people coward for facing you front on. So, you calling someone coward is pretty meaningless, let’s be real.

But we’re all clear now that Zumpie is a tad illiterate, right? 

Because I just explained the whole thing twice, broken down into simple sentences. Coward for what? I just told you what happened, you sad reaching idiot. PT hasn’t tag invaded since. You clearly have no real evidence showing this, or you wouldn’t be lashing out like a small child at me.

You scare people into agreeing with you because you are a bully and cultivate a bully environment --- and because you do that, you make a BIG SHOW of  exactly what will happen to your followers otherwise: 

You will try to discredit or vilify them like you JUST did me and many other people on tumblr. You just lied about me and made claims with absolutely zero evidence. For instance: I didn’t send you anon hate, but you’re sure going to try to play it up like I did because YOU say so with no evidence ((or another misleading or faked screenie)). And funny enough, that’s exactly like you say about PT, your followers should believe it ‘because you said so’!!!

Reblogs don’t show up in tag searches. That’s not tag invading, the end. I haven’t seen any original post about PR or couples or drama that have tag invaded. None of those posts zumpie is referring to are original, which means those tags don’t show up when you search the tag in the tumblr search bar. Facts. If I put #zumpieisdesperatetodiscreditmebecauseimfuckingrightaf and you search it on tumblr, you’re not going to find it, because this is a reblog. It’s super easy, guys.

I fixed when-they-go-low’s tag invading by no longer posting mean shit about her, and zumpie is bitter as fuck about it. 

I disagree with practically everything HN says, but I’m not zumpie’s little minion chuckling in her shadow anymore, and zumpie is bitter as fuck about it. 

I’m saying something about her after she came at me because frankly she is absolutely, without a doubt, a mean spirited human ((like, you just fucking brutally mocked someone who left tumblr in part because her mother just recently died, all because you and she disagreed on things. That’s one of the worst things a person can do, a truth that can’t even be argued.)), and zumpie is bitter as fuck about it.

So stop dragging me into this shit that you’re bitter about, Zumpie, because I just proved you wrong on every thing you mentioned and you’re still going to complain about it and pull a Trump and claim I didn’t.

God, grow up.

@zumpie​ It’s been brought to my attention you’ve commented on me several times today, and apparently they were fairly rude in nature. I have no interest in sludging through all your posts, so I’ll take what I was told with a grain of salt and presume you meant someone else.

Unless you can screenshot me an example of where @when-they-go-low has, in her tags, ‘tag invaded’ since June, ((which she hasn’t aside for a handful of posts not related to couples or PR, such as when she posted that Mads got hacked, or rarely when a anon puts it in an ask)) I really don’t think there is any reason for you to @ me, or subsequently make any comment on my decision to leave PT alone in exchange for her no longer using the main cast’s names and the Sprousehart tags and post occasional reminders it’s just her opinion.

Again, she hasn’t, despite your unbacked claims, tag invaded, and I would know because I and several other people keep up on it. She didn’t terrorize me for shit. A bunch of our mutual followers rightfully complained about her tag invading, and I actually did something about it.

She’s been particularly chatty, I agree, but it’s her blog, her tags, and it’s not my problem.

So don’t try to insinuate foul play regarding something you know nothing about. Thanks.

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You can’t even get your story straight right off the bat.

Apparently an anon mentioned me and you decided to elaborate on me in your response ((1)), and then in another post later you brought me up again completely unprompted claiming PT ‘terrorized 2low with that (sic) made her-oh-so-defensively change her tune” ((2)) *** see below. 

 A+ for sentences that make sense btw  

So counting is hard, I know, but that would be twice you brought me up today, both times, as stated, rudely. 

I ‘seemingly have just been waiting for the moment’? Turns out you’ve also mentioned me several times previously, all of which were you randomly slinging mud about me for no reason long after my last post and I haven’t said anything about it. So...uh...incorrect again.

It seems names and dates are hard too, because no, ladies and gentlemen, this is not a screen shot of PT posting using one of the cast’s names or ship tags. 

None of when-they-go-low’s blogs have tag invaded in the parameters I’ve described since June. It’s really easy guys.

This is a screenie of her reblogging it to another blog, which doesn’t show up in the tags ((uh, duh)), it just shows up searching that blog. If she starts making original posts with those tags then it’s an issue. That being said, SINCE JUNE -like I fucking said the first time- according to you she only would have ‘tag invaded’ via that method 3 times, all of which were on KJ’s tag. So big fucking whoop. 

***   ((You keep using ‘we’ in your response. You’re literally the only one bitching about this. So to clarify, you’re referring to yourself as ‘we’. A few followers deafly nod along as usual, but you’re the only person actually offended by this situation, minus the ones as pissed off as I am that this is back on their dash.))

Also...here’s the thing...I’ve explained all this several times. Just now, in that top part of that post, under my name? Do you see those symbols? They’re called letters and the spell out exactly what happened in like three sentences.

I implore you yet again, try to read what I posted about her and my agreement above, but since you’re having trouble: I terrorized her so much, she took a bargain from me to again: ((should I type slowly for you?)) Stop using main cast name tags. Stop tagging SO or Family member hate by name. Stop using the Sprousehart tag and some other popular ship tags. Post disclaimers after long posts making it clear it’s her opinion((which I’ll admit has been hit or miss but that’s slightly less of a concern)). In exchange for me to stop posting about her and clear my tags of her tags. It’s really fucking simple. 

Also, did you seriously just use a screenie showing her tagging you as an example of ‘tag invasion’ as something I should care about? Again, that won’t even show up when you search your tag, because it’s a reblog, you bright crayon. Feel free to show me an actual post and not a reblog she’s made since June tagging you ((or any of the cast)). Idgaf if she tags you, speaking of which:

I’ve also explained more than once that I don’t know why you think I would talk to you about this. Like I need to get a form stamped by you in a one on one chat to do whatever the fuck I want. 

I’ve already made it clear, we chatted like 4 times, why would I need to discuss anything with you? I clearly haven’t been active in months, why do you keep trying to drag me into anything especially when HN is holding up her part of my agreement with her? 

Would you rather she start tag invading again? Because I’m sure I can make that happen. No, scratch that, you would like that. You just want more of a reason for drama.

@zumpie​ It’s been brought to my attention you’ve commented on me several times today, and apparently they were fairly rude in nature. I have no interest in sludging through all your posts, so I’ll take what I was told with a grain of salt and presume you meant someone else.

Unless you can screenshot me an example of where @when-they-go-low has, in her tags, ‘tag invaded’ since June, ((which she hasn’t aside for a handful of posts not related to couples or PR, such as when she posted that Mads got hacked, or rarely when a anon puts it in an ask)) I really don’t think there is any reason for you to @ me, or subsequently make any comment on my decision to leave PT alone in exchange for her no longer using the main cast’s names and the Sprousehart tags and post occasional reminders it’s just her opinion.

Again, she hasn’t, despite your unbacked claims, tag invaded, and I would know because I and several other people keep up on it. She didn’t terrorize me for shit. A bunch of our mutual followers rightfully complained about her tag invading, and I actually did something about it.

She’s been particularly chatty, I agree, but it’s her blog, her tags, and it’s not my problem.

So don’t try to insinuate foul play regarding something you know nothing about. Thanks.

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@zumpie​ It’s been brought to my attention you’ve commented on me several times today, and apparently they were fairly rude in nature. I have no interest in sludging through all your posts, so I’ll take what I was told with a grain of salt and presume you meant someone else.

Unless you can screenshot me an example of where @when-they-go-low has, in her tags, ‘tag invaded’ since June, ((which she hasn’t aside for a handful of posts not related to couples or PR, such as when she posted that Mads got hacked, or rarely when a anon puts it in an ask)) I really don’t think there is any reason for you to @ me, or subsequently make any comment on my decision to leave PT alone in exchange for her no longer using the main cast’s names and the Sprousehart tags and post occasional reminders it’s just her opinion.

Again, she hasn’t, despite your unbacked claims, tag invaded, and I would know because I and several other people keep up on it. She didn’t terrorize me for shit. A bunch of our mutual followers rightfully complained about her tag invading, and I actually did something about it.

She’s been particularly chatty, I agree, but it’s her blog, her tags, and it’s not my problem.

So don’t try to insinuate foul play regarding something you know nothing about. Thanks.

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No really @zumpie where are the points I missed? I screen capped your responses. I answered them word for word. What points?

I'm waiting.