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do you think toby ever got inspiration from his fans

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Every Deltarune artist rn

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DELTARUNE CHAP 3/4 SPOILERS

SPOILERS DONT LOOK THESE ARE DELTARUNE SPOILERS DELTARUNE SPOILERS ONLY LOOK IF YOU'VE FONE THROUGH 3+4

dessknight believers and carolknight believers and gasterknight believers are probbaly killing eachother with rocks and sticks right now. its a bloodbath down there.

i, for one, believe in i guess.. assimilationknight? allknight? where the knight isnt a single person but some form of collective or force manifested.. maybe taking in parts and traits of those its already gotten a hold of. it has the gaster stigmata, holiday antlers.. heck, its even kinda papyrus shaped if you squint. the sword both looks like a bat (which, from what we know of dess, would be quite the fitting weapon for a rough and tumble rocker) and a katana (which we know carol holiday has) whoich also plays into this.. we still don't have a proper motivation, though.

what does anyone gain from starting the roaring? is it a belief that the darkner world is a better world? sokme kind of mass-destruction plot? are they even aware of the roaring? (probably, considering they summoned a fucking titan!)

plus, i feel like susie, even if this is pure coping on my end, will survive. in some way. she's a wildcard. she's bent the rules of the prophecy enough already - ralsei is meant to be the healer, has tried to enforce this - and yet, is shaping up to be very very good at that. she literally shattered the glass that said that she'll probably die as a final sacrafice. plus, with the jackenstein encounter, she seems to udnerstand something about healing magic that does something more than help superficial hurt. pretty much all of chapter 4 is saying that straying from the prophecy might just be a good idea and something is special about susie.

prophecy-bending is probably going to happen in both paths, weirdroute and not. the Methods of bending it however differ. snowgrave breaks the story in half over its knee, thrashing against the cage of the plot and burning everyone stuck in there with you. water is a huge motif in deltarune, ice disrupts and stops the flow of it. (i think, in the end, snowgrave route will not lead to a proper ending, but a straight-up intentional softlock. you literally broke the game.) normal route, however, might take the path of instead carving a new river from the earth. susie defies the story, not through the violence she's been raised to believe is her identity, but through bettering the lives of others around her and finding hope. and maybe, through wading through the ocean, we'll find the deepest deaths and dig up the bones of those who drowned before us.

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i know its been like less than a week but does anyone have a clean sound clip of YOUR TAKING TOO LONG

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My thoughts on Deltarune chapter 3 and 4:

-It's very well designed and I appreciate how forgiving the mechanics are. I am NOT a skilled gamer and I am very out of practice with video games in general but I was able to complete it with minimal frustration. It was challenging as I am terrible at dodging but most fights were fine. I only really struggled with Jackenstein, Old Man Gerson (I did not complete the secret boss fight version) and the Titan pretty much due to lack of healing ability. I expected to be redoing fights constantly but the mechanics are setup in a way where you can be strategic about your heals if just suck at dodging. Unfortunately I do rely on that strategy heavily so once it's not an option I suffer but those fights were meant to be difficult. After like 6 attempts I would look up tips online and every time I found out I was far closer to beating the fight than I had thought which made it a lot more bearable to keep doing it until I finally got it.

-Toby Fox is so fucking good at making you feel the absence of characters so naturally. Dess and Asriel both haunt the story in ways that they just keep getting brought up through both dialogue and flavor text. We are constantly shown that Kris and the whole town misses them both. Dess's absence especially hits hard because there's a probability that she's dead but no one wants to say it. Finding Kris's childhood dragon drawings under Dess's bed made me feel shrimp emotions.

-I feel fairly confident that Asgore is Carol's bumbling idiot of a minion. It's been brought up a few times that Asgore's flower business is basically a failure and that Carol funds it in exchange for his help. Also if you look in his basement window there's conspiracy board stuff going on and that partnered with his flowers that resemble the souls from Undertale, I have to assume he's doing weird soul research with Carol and suspect he may be competent in that despite his pathetic appearances so far. Seeing how obsessed he is with getting Kris's family back together and "normal" for Asriel's return from college, I have to assume he is somehow motivated by family. Carol may also be seeing how Dess is missing and her husband is sick. Rudy did mention that she has been colder since he's been in the hospital and I have to imagine she wasn't always like that for someone as joyful as Rudy to marry her.

-Kris also is working for Carol and I could see them doing whatever it takes to bring things back to "normal" like Asgore has also mentioned wanting. We know how much they miss Asriel because it's pointed out constantly in every chapter. I could see them going through great lengths to do something to bring him and potentially Dess back. Those two families are heavily intertwined, going as far as to both be present together in Tenna's flashback.

-Susie…..I love Susie so fucking much. I love how vocally supportive and caring she is towards her friends and how she's become the more optimistic one of the group. The comment about her smile seeming to light up the dark…. she's just so noticeably more cheerful and it's a stark comparison to her bully facade at the start. I'm so happy she's learning to heal and her conflict with Ralsei trying to do everything has been so interesting because because she's desperate to help too. I can't wait to see how that progresses

-Ralsei seems to be on the verge of a mental breakdown and there's definitely more he's not saying and he's openly admitted that but auugh his comment about how he knows too much against his will and how he doesn't want others to carry that too. The way he considers himself as just a tool and having conflicted feelings once he realizes that he has desires of his own. I have a feeling that once things are revealed the first two chapters are going to seem very different and I also support Ralsei in whatever crazy endeavors he wants to do with his realization that he can do stuff because he wants to

-I really want to know what that prophecy ending is. I have to assume it has do with Susie specifically seeing how Ralsei seemed most concerned about her. My guess is it has to do with her dying or betraying them. With Susie's history of always being the outcast and labeled as trouble there is so much angst if the prophecy DOES say she'll betray her friends or implies the only thing she's good for is dying. I can't wait for that reveal to wreck me! Some of these theories may be proven wrong because I'm not as deep into the deltarune lore theories as others but regardless I am really enjoying things so much. This story is told in such a unique way and it's so good at setting tone. Almost every scene feels so intentional in what it wants you to feel and it's so good at it too from everything down to flavor text and even game mechanics. It's a story that could only be told through the video game medium and it utilizes that to it's fullest. Both Deltarune and Undertale get a lot of praise but they genuinely deserve it. You can feel the care in every detail of them

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Deltarune ch4 spoilers

I CANTTTTT HES SOO CUTTEEEEEE I LOVE YOU JACKENSTEIN

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where's all the love for jackenstein???? ik he's only a mini boss but :(((( he's so silly goofy full of love and friendship :(((((

him frainds :(((((

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IS there more evidence for the Susie theory I keep calling "Blood Theory"?

(My thoughts were all over the place for this so bear w/ me. I wanted it to be a thorough theory/essay post but it's more like a collection of thoughts sorry)

spoilers for the new chapters under the cut

So first things first, we need to establish where this comes from.

During chapter 2's release some dataminers found this unused animation where she BLEEDS.

this on its own wasn't enough for people to question it, as the two running theories for it being scrapped were that it was

1. the blood on her sprite was a continuity issue; as monsters dust, which is why it ended up unused

2. monsters actually bleed in deltarune since it's in a different universe from undertale.

Both of these are WRONG now that I've finished chapter 4.

The second floor in the library has a new interaction with a book on monster funerals, it is exactly the same as the book from undertale's library on the same subject; this one was not written for a school project though.

Throughout chapter 4 we interact with Gerson in the dark world, and Susie treats him like any other lightner, despite the fact that he's a shopkeeper and magically disappears and reappears around her several times in the chapter.

When Susie finds his hammer covered in his dust in the light world, she realizes he's dead and became a darkner. But take a look at her dialogue for just a second.

How come she refers to monsters in the 3rd person when she could have included herself, and she initially doesn't understand why somebody would keep the dust of a loved one. Why? Ralsei refers to her as "the monster" in the original prophecy, and obviously she isn't a human. She doesn't look like anything other than a monster, and she doesn't have a human soul - that's why she asks Kris at the end of chapter 4.

While she does seem confused about a lot of things surrounding monsters and their culture (commenting on gingerbread monsters after asking toriel what they were for example) but this is probably due to her homelife.

She's lived in multiple towns and if King is supposed to mirror her own father, than he certainly isn't going to care enough to spend time with her and show her gingerbread monster cutters or even get her cool monster costumes, etc. So of course she's going to have trouble relating to other monsters.

The first time Susie is ever shown proper love and care is in the dark world! (yes dw i did not forget about toriel and the bench, but it's not relevant for my next point) Chapter 3 focuses on the importance of Darkners as objects, contrasted with how they feel. This obviously impacts Susie since these worlds and these people are so near and dear to her, and it shouldn't matter whether or not they're "real" they're alive.

In chapter 4 once Gerson finds his study, there's a plaque above his fireplace that describes a mythical axe. On my first playthrough I went out of my way to find this axe for Susie, I had no clue it would unlock the secret boss. I do think that this is important information for Susie and her character arc (which I'll come back to this)

Gerson and Susie get so incredibly close this chapter. It is such an unlikely and yet incredibly sweet friendship.

After defeating Jackenstein in the dark zone, Ralsei tries to heal him multiple times, which doesn't work. Susie, having already been told that she doesn't need to heal from Ralsei, walks away. Gerson is the one who encourages her to heal him. Gerson encourages her to grow and improve her magic from Chapter 2!

Speaking of Susie's magic ability; in my old post I went over her odd magic abilities. In the alternate ending for chapter 1, Susie can learn pacify BY HERSELF to use on the king. In chapter 2 Ralsei teaches Susie to heal. And in chapter 4 Gerson's fight helps her healing incrase dramatically.

Susie's magic use has intrigued me for the longest time, especially since she has all these other oddities; her room in the dark world for one.

Unlike Kris' room, Susie's (I'm assuming that's her room) in the light world does not match the dark world other than her bed being mirrored (which is also true for Kris). She gets a brand new fridge, her window is shaped differently, and she gets a dresser and lamp. Meanwhile her room in the light world is completely empty.

Susie has this carpet with the ACT symbol on it, which relates to not only her magic use, but it almost foreshadows Susie learning how to ACT?????? from the MAGIC MENU????????? in chapter 2.

Susie's room is also littered with all these crowns. Despite Ralsei telling her that she's supposed to wear ribbons, Susie has never been feminine? The only reason I'd assume they'd be there is for that reason. Susie DOES refer to herself as a king on a few occasions in ch 2 though, such as during the trash scene and in tasque interactions.

Going back to the prophecy in ch 4. This looks nothing like Susie.

Especially compared to her drawing from the legend Ralsei tells; The statue based off this illustration is even compared to Susie directly. While the silhouette looks nothing like Susie (even wielding a sword???) the story beats match hers, like finding love and supposedly whatever happens at the end of the prophecy.

What this figure does kind of look like is a princess! And seeing as this whole chapter is focused on stories and prophecies, I think this kind of checks out.

Why and how would she be a princess though? - if this is even really her in those images. She's literally a regular monster not only in deltarune but in undertale too. The only mention of her and her family in UT is that they live in the same city as clam girl - who just so happens to be a goner. Hell she has a couple of other odd connections to Gaster and the overall idea of darkworlds.

In chapter 2 if you enter the diner to talk to Catti about Noelle she'll say "She is the light, but lately she strays too far into the darkness" and then she clarifies she's speaking about Susie. While we know she dislikes Susie and is jealous of Noelle's romantic interest in her, this still really intrigues me just based on wording alone.

There's only a few activities that are available after sealing the fountain in ch 4, and one of them is sitting by the lake with Susie. After a certain period of time passing she'll ask Kris if they can hear anything; which we can't. She says it sounds like somebody is playing music on the other side - something Onionsan mentions in the earlier chapters.

Water imagery is absolutely associated w/ gaster and the dark worlds. From the gonermaker background using an ocean image + the fountains using that same image texture, it's no wonder the lake has dark world associations too.

What was interesting was that another character seemed to have alluded to this song earlier in ch 4. Gerson. Before his battle with Susie begins he tells her "Can you hear it? Can you hear its song, singing from the deep...?" this immediately reminded me of the song of the sea.

Going back to my first point about their close relationship; Gerson tasks Susie with writing a letter to his son, because he knows he's deceased, even though he never says it outright. He's unique in the sense that the dust of a lightner can be mixed with an object for them to come back as darkners. Mind you, when Susie creates a dark world his suits of armor (objects → full darkners) are seperate entities from him.

I dissected how blood is supposed to work in deltarune so I'd assume instead of dusting (he's already made of dust) Gerson probably bleeds in the dark world, despite having the full appearance of a lightner.

Say that upon shattering glass, one of our hereos starts to bleed.

Even though it shouldn't be possible for them to bleed. Let's just say that they can and not elaborate any further.

Let's also say maybe somehow, someway, somebody found a way to have a child who was both a lightner and darkner.

Let's also look at how interesting it is, that they share the same attack. Those who are created from both the light, and the dark :)

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random undertale + deltarune doodles :-) (+ objectified. for some reason)

+ gross kerdly comic based off the fact that bluebird’s mating ritual includes flapping their wings

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real face

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How to defeat Jackenstein

SPOILERS FOR DELTARUNE CHAPTER 4

(This guy was a pain in the ass to beat though, so I thought I'd give some tips.)

GENERAL:

The whole party should defend on the first turn

After this, have Kris and Ralsei defend and Susie use "treasure hunt" until you have enough tp to use Kris's "Unleashed," which costs 60tp.

Whenever a party member's hp gets halfway or lower, use an item.

The house's have different set ups. I'm not sure if it's random, but they're all a similar deal.

Take your time to avoid getting hit by the ghosty things while collecting as much tp pellets as possible. Jack WONT get you until you collect the key. After getting the key, book it even if you get hit.

Try to move in sink with the ghosty's like you would in chapter one when avoiding the dancing creatures in field of hopes and dreams.

Despite the heart lighting up next to the ghosty's you CAN NOT farm tp this way. (Atleast not on Original Switch)

The items themself don't matter. I'd recommend anything that heals more than 100, in addition to some revive mints. Don't use Ralsei's heal prayer. You NEED that TP.

After using "Unleashed" there's either "You're long" which isn't that different from the normal attacks or Jack will be a "really nice guy" it'll be a house that also has an exit through the chimney. You can leave through the chimney without collecting the key, (and summoning jack) but then you'd lose out on some sweet sweet tp. :(

ACT TIPS:

Don't use treasure hunt on the same turn you use Kris's “unleashed”, there's no point.

Kris’s "Scaredy cat" looks good, but I think it makes Jack come sooner. That, combined with the lowered defense, it's not really worth it.

To my knowledge, Ralsei's abilities are useless in this battle. Keep him alive to farm TP with his defense, but if you're low on healing items and have to choose between party members, let him stay down.

After using “Unleashed” a second time, there will be a “ultimate humiliation” or something like that. It’s like the other attacks, but the soul has to collect a tutu instead of a key. You will drop this tutu on the way out of the house, do not go back and get it, Jack will give it to you. Once you have it back, RUN FOR THE DOOR. Otherwise, Jack will get you.

Use “Unleashed” three times to beat Jackenstein.

EQUIPMENT:

I don’t think what you have equipped matters that much, just use the best ones you have. When I beat him, this is what I used:

Kris: Spookysword, ChainMail, Waferguard

Susie: AbsorbAx, RoyalPin, JevilsTail,

Ralsei: FiberScarf, Dealmaker, FrayedBowtie

Good luck.

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a cutie pootie

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[Deltarune Spoilers] TOO TOO

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I don't know what possessed me to make this so fast but cassandraa asked for more trick or treat (jackenstein x dalv) on her twt and I just popped this out somehow .. I haven't even played/watched deltarune 3&4 yet...

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new favorite character dropped Oh my god

oouhhhhh jackenstein..: my babey …..

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I’ve been watching @saltydkdan play deltarune chapters 3&4 and he mentioned drawing jackenstein

So I drew him in under 3 hours and 30 minutes

Hope you have fun white boy!

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