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re: New protest campaign

Hello everyone,

A quick visit back from retirement:

We have been getting some dm’s and messages about participating in the new protest campaign, so we thought we’d better address it publicly.

We agree that Homeland has lost its way in terms of its story and characters. We are still as angry and as sad as ever about what happened and how Gansa and his crew have handled things. We deserved proper closure in 612 and some acknowledgement from Gansa – of the character of Peter Quinn and Rupert Friend’s work – right after the finale and during the Emmy campaign. We, as grieving fans, also deserved some expression of sympathy from Gansa, like he has offered fans of other characters in the past.

We got absolutely nothing.

But this should have been something Gansa wanted to do, not something he is forced into by a fan-led smear campaign. Any forced statement or apology, in our view, is absolutely worthless. 

They know how we feel, as evidenced by the very precise references in LLG’s latest interview, and they simply do not care.

Immediately after the finale, we shut down our blog in protest – as we always vowed to do – to deny the show any unnecessary attention. We wrote a letter to Alex Gansa on behalf of the fandom and sent it to him personally (read it here). Together with other fans, we set up and participated in a petition (here). We have led three Twitter campaigns – #thankyourupert, #emmyforrupert and #noquinnnohomeland.

Through these efforts, we have already voiced our anger, grief and criticism,  and hoped to make Rupert feel appreciated and supported.

We succeeded.

Rupert tweeted his thanks for the EmmyForRupert campaign right after the nomination announcements and has noted the outpouring of support from fans in multiple interviews:

"I’ve just felt since the season finished, this outpouring of love and support, and in some cases fury, from very loyal fans who I think are conducting their own memorial for this character in their own way, which is beautiful." (W Magazine)

We and other fans have been actively building that memorial since day one. To us, it is more important for Rupert to know we love and appreciate him than for Gansa to feel our anger.

This was our contribution.

That said, we will not be participating in the new protest and we do not endorse it.

WHAT WE ENDORSE  

DIRECT donations to organizations Rupert Friend supports OR donations to similar organizations in your own country, bypassing any smear/protest campaigns (the non-Americans among us feel uncomfortable about donating to foreign soldiers/vets).

Voicing our opinion on social media and other platforms, writing letters to Showtime and Gansa, and keeping the #NoQuinnNoHomeland spirit alive.

Cancelling Showtime subscriptions.

Showing Rupert love on Twitter and other platforms.

WHAT WE DO NOT ENDORSE

Collecting money for charities in the name of a smear/protest campaign (even for a good cause)

Asking for money for a campaign of any kind just to get attention from Alex Gansa and Homeland EPs

OUR REASONS IN A NUTSHELL

We, together with other fans, have already made a difference to Rupert, and that's what matters to us.

A funded smear campaign reflects negatively on the legacy of Peter Quinn and the memorial built by fans since the finale.

We believe it also reflects negatively on Rupert. We seriously doubt Rupert would approve of a funded campaign meant to discredit a project he has been an integral part of for the past five years. At the end of the day, these are Rupert’s colleagues and industry contacts. We honestly don’t see how dragging them through the mud would be of service to Rupert.

We believe any forced statements or recognition from the Homeland EPs would be insincere and meaningless.

Given all the worthy causes out there, throwing money at something like this is the definition of #firstworldproblems. No matter how much we couch it in the rhetoric of outrage, we are still just a bunch of fangirls upset because a show killed our fave. To try to frame it as some lofty cause is embarrassing, frankly, even if our points are valid. 

Of course, this is our personal opinion and we encourage everyone to do what feels right for them! We just wanted to be clear about where we stood on this right from the start…

And with that, we are back to enjoying our retirement and hanging out on Twitter @wthomelands, come play with us there!

WTH

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Thank you everyone for your comments and notes!

We have sent this to Alex Gansa personally as well, hopefully he will read it (and probably promptly ignore it but at least we’ve said our piece, and that alone makes us feel a little better).

A Letter to Homeland Creators

Dear Mr. Gansa and Mr. Gordon,

As avid fans of Homeland since season 1, we would like to thank you for such an intriguing show and for giving us characters that we have enjoyed for so many years. So much were we consumed by the world you created that we started blogs and forums to discuss it with thousands of like-minded fans from around the world.

After the season 6 finale, however, we can’t help but feel devastated. The callous way in which Peter Quinn, a character we have come to love so dearly, was killed off has left us reeling with sadness.

That we’ve become so attached to a fictional person, of course, speaks volumes of the quality of writing and acting on Homeland. We were equally invested in the journey of Carrie Mathison, the protagonist. Her arc, we thought, was one of personal growth, with Quinn – a man with a strong moral compass – as her partner.

We were invested in Quinn because we were invested in Carrie. With Quinn gone, we’re not quite sure what Carrie’s journey will be, but if Quinn’s relentless suffering is any indication, we expect it will end badly. Forgive us, but we can’t invest eight years of our lives on rooting for a character whose suffering will never be rewarded. We invested five years on Quinn and the result was unabated heartbreak.

Real life hands us enough tragedy, we don’t need to seek it out in fiction. Times are bleak, as you well know, and we turn to artists for some hope, optimism, for a way to put into words and pictures the things we are feeling. We turn to stories for things to make sense and for good people to triumph ultimately over evil.

Homeland was bleak, but we willingly endured the bleakness awaiting a payoff. We got none. Quinn was a fighter and we expected him to overcome his demons and prevail. What we got this season was the exact opposite. He died full of self-loathing; that, we cannot forgive. With no reward for Quinn, the Dar reveal on the dock and Astrid’s tragic death feel entirely gratuitous, not to mention the two years of physical torment he suffered.

And what kind of a message have you sent to depressed and disabled veterans and stroke survivors around the world who saw themselves in Quinn? To victims of sexual abuse? That they’re better off dead? What an abominable message. The unceremonious manner in which Quinn was killed off, with no vicarious closure for the audience in the form of a ceremony or proper displays of grief from his friends, was just cruel.

We are sorry to say that we feel utterly betrayed and manipulated by the way you chose to portray Quinn’s journey over the past two seasons. The season 5 fake-death cliffhanger in retrospect feels like a cheap way to bait Quinn fans into sticking with the show for another season. So does the way you developed the Carrie/Quinn romance arc, which you yourself said was the emotional center of the season. Another story lopped off carelessly without resolution or payoff.

We also find Homeland’s message to be antifeminist. A woman with drive and determination destroys everyone in her path. A woman with a calling has to sacrifice her personal life. These are harmful stereotypes and we urge you to consider the special responsibility you bear by having a female protagonist.

Is your intended message one of utter hopelessness? The fight is futile and the bad guys will win? We are sorry, but nihilism is not the same as realism. Ambiguity is not the same as artistry. Your commitment to ambiguity now comes across as an inability or unwillingness to commit to your stories or characters; building the plane as you fly it, as a lack of vision and planning. Ambiguity has become your go-to excuse to avoid criticism: when “anything goes” is the name of the game, there is no accountability.

Finally, having no comment or statement from the showrunners following the death of a much-loved character like Peter Quinn has made things even worse. 

What the Homeland

[wthomeland]

Please sign this and leave a comment if you’d like. Only takes a minute! This could be a great fan-led rebuttal to Sunday’s season finale and also help us get some answers from Homeland’s team.

Peter Quinn deserves some fan love. Thank you. 

EDIT: You can sign this petition anonymously too!

[wthomeland]

A Letter to Homeland Creators

Dear Mr. Gansa and Mr. Gordon,

As avid fans of Homeland since season 1, we would like to thank you for such an intriguing show and for giving us characters that we have enjoyed for so many years. So much were we consumed by the world you created that we started blogs and forums to discuss it with thousands of like-minded fans from around the world.

After the season 6 finale, however, we can’t help but feel devastated. The callous way in which Peter Quinn, a character we have come to love so dearly, was killed off has left us reeling with sadness.

That we’ve become so attached to a fictional person, of course, speaks volumes of the quality of writing and acting on Homeland. We were equally invested in the journey of Carrie Mathison, the protagonist. Her arc, we thought, was one of personal growth, with Quinn – a man with a strong moral compass – as her partner.

We were invested in Quinn because we were invested in Carrie. With Quinn gone, we’re not quite sure what Carrie’s journey will be, but if Quinn’s relentless suffering is any indication, we expect it will end badly. Forgive us, but we can’t invest eight years of our lives on rooting for a character whose suffering will never be rewarded. We invested five years on Quinn and the result was unabated heartbreak.

Real life hands us enough tragedy, we don’t need to seek it out in fiction. Times are bleak, as you well know, and we turn to artists for some hope, optimism, for a way to put into words and pictures the things we are feeling. We turn to stories for things to make sense and for good people to triumph ultimately over evil.

Homeland was bleak, but we willingly endured the bleakness awaiting a payoff. We got none. Quinn was a fighter and we expected him to overcome his demons and prevail. What we got this season was the exact opposite. He died full of self-loathing; that, we cannot forgive. With no reward for Quinn, the Dar reveal on the dock and Astrid’s tragic death feel entirely gratuitous, not to mention the two years of physical torment he suffered.

And what kind of a message have you sent to depressed and disabled veterans and stroke survivors around the world who saw themselves in Quinn? To victims of sexual abuse? That they’re better off dead? What an abominable message. The unceremonious manner in which Quinn was killed off, with no vicarious closure for the audience in the form of a ceremony or proper displays of grief from his friends, was just cruel.

We are sorry to say that we feel utterly betrayed and manipulated by the way you chose to portray Quinn’s journey over the past two seasons. The season 5 fake-death cliffhanger in retrospect feels like a cheap way to bait Quinn fans into sticking with the show for another season. So does the way you developed the Carrie/Quinn romance arc, which you yourself said was the emotional center of the season. Another story lopped off carelessly without resolution or payoff.

We also find Homeland’s message to be antifeminist. A woman with drive and determination destroys everyone in her path. A woman with a calling has to sacrifice her personal life. These are harmful stereotypes and we urge you to consider the special responsibility you bear by having a female protagonist.

Is your intended message one of utter hopelessness? The fight is futile and the bad guys will win? We are sorry, but nihilism is not the same as realism. Ambiguity is not the same as artistry. Your commitment to ambiguity now comes across as an inability or unwillingness to commit to your stories or characters; building the plane as you fly it, as a lack of vision and planning. Ambiguity has become your go-to excuse to avoid criticism: when “anything goes” is the name of the game, there is no accountability.

Finally, having no comment or statement from the showrunners following the death of a much-loved character like Peter Quinn has made things even worse. 

What the Homeland

[wthomeland]

Please sign this and leave a comment if you’d like. Only takes a minute! This could be a great fan-led rebuttal to Sunday’s season finale and also help us get some answers from Homeland’s team.

Peter Quinn deserves some fan love. Thank you. 

EDIT: You can sign this petition anonymously too!

[wthomeland]

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A final hooray for the fandom. Enjoy!

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ATTENTION ALL QUINN FANS!

PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION:  https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/bring-peter-quinn-back.html

 Thanks to @keepcalmandquarrieon!

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Peter Quinn fans!

We will be having a Twitter Trending event in honor of Peter Quinn on Friday, April 14th.

The trend will last ONE hour, we’ll be trying to trend the whole time. Anyone who has a twitter or is willing to make one, please be there. It’s important to show that Quinn/Rupert is loved and appreciated.

Tips for our trending event:

Tweet the hashtag #NoQuinnNoHomeland only at the trending time! NOT BEFORE!

Only one hashtag per tweet! Retweets do not count.

You have to add additional text to the hashtag perhaps adding your favorite Quinn line, Rupert quote, your favorite scene or just your thoughts/feelings! (and a gif or picture if you’d like) Here’s a gif you can all use, just download it to your desktop: http://imgur.com/a/i3cT6

Do not use numbers, emojis, special characters or jibberish to your tweets

Liking a tweet does not count toward the trend

If your account is private, you will have to unlock it otherwise your tweets won’t count

You can tag @SHO_Homeland and/or @rupertfriend if you like 

Keep tweeting as fast as you can… we need to get as many as we can!

In order for the trend to succeed, it’s really important for the word to be spread. The more people that tweet, the faster and longer the trend will last. So reblog this post, and inform your friends on all social media platforms!

[wthomeland]

Please sign this and leave a comment if you’d like. Only takes a minute! This could be a great fan-led rebuttal to Sunday’s season finale and also help us get some answers from Homeland’s team.

Peter Quinn deserves some fan love. Thank you. 

EDIT: You can sign this petition anonymously too!

[wthomeland]

Goodbye from Sense Misapplied

Hi guys, I came by to say goodbye. 

Sorry for the silence. This has been a devastating week for us. Not only losing our beloved Quinn - again - but also realizing that this hobby we've dedicated so much time and energy to this past year was just a big waste of time. I'm so angry at the writers that my immediate reaction was to move on as soon as possible and not give them another ounce of my time. I deleted my blogs and social media accounts except Twitter. I haven't been on Tumblr since, mostly because seeing images of Quinn brings me to tears. 

I know some of you are angry at us at WTH -- and at me, in particular -- and I don't blame you. As you know, I like to think about stories and how they're structured. I think my mistake in this case was to assume the rules of storytelling apply to TV shows when there are so many cooks in the kitchen. Obviously all those other factors that we refused to talk about on the blog -- BTS drama, network politics, disagreements in the writers' room, etc. etc. -- because they were so "unknowable" were actually much more important than the story itself. So if you're wondering why we are not answering questions on the blog it is because we don't have answers. We can't explain torturing Quinn with no respite, bringing him back after a fake death only to torture him some more in S6 and then killing him without fanfare. To me, it looks like fan baiting and going for shock-value over story. 

I spent a year and half defending Gansa and his story choices. Clearly I gave him too much credit. I won't do it any longer. We were grateful for the Facebook Q&A and the interviews that Rupert has done since because clearly he was as dissatisfied with what they did to Quinn as we were. It made us feel better, as I'm sure it did all of you. In any case, I just wanted to come by and say goodbye and apologize for acting so authoritative and snarky. We were really just trying to have fun and keep the blog light and let our personalities show (we are a snarky bunch). I guess we chose the wrong show for that LOL. I'm still semi-active on Twitter @sensemisapplied if you want to come by and chat. 

Take care everyone, 

 Vivian (speaking for the entire WTH team)

(you’ll also find the rest of us on Twitter @heartthrobbiest, @ellietonkinn, @elviiraros, @crux65, @CPQA_Unofficial, @niloofar_s)

P.S. The forum is also now open to everyone

[wthomeland]

Thank you. And goodbye. 

[wthomeland]

Last review by @sensemisapplied-deactivated2017, and her way of saying goodbye. 

From all of us: 

We are really sorry if we led you on, but we genuinely felt hopeful. We loved Quinn like he was a real person, and we loved the Carrie and Quinn relationship, and thought we were watching a beautiful love story unfold. We were wrong. Peter Quinn was the purest of souls, and we were sure his sacrifices would be rewarded. We were wrong. 

A lot of sad and scary things are going on in the world, and many of us turn to art and entertainment for comfort and some hope. We thought we would get that from Homeland.  They didn’t want to give us that, and I guess that is their right. But it still breaks our hearts. 

We were here for the story, and for the characters, not to support the network or the producers, writers, directors or even the actors. We were a blog from fans to fans. The blog will stay up, but we won’t be coming up with new content or taking any asks. We just can’t bring ourselves to do it. I guess we were a one season wonder. The forum will stay up for now. Some of us might stop by, and most of us are still on Twitter. 

We want to thank all of you for following, it was fun while it lasted. Sorry to end it on such a sad, sad note. 

But we’ll always have memories of Peter Quinn, may that beautiful man rest in peace and have eternal happiness!

WTH team

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homeland rambling/spoilers ahead:

Keep reading

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Important information for Quinn fans (SPOILER!)

We are so sorry everyone, but Peter Quinn is dead. We won’t be blogging anymore. Thank you so much for following. 

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I've recently been rewatching Homeland from the beginning. I am currently on season 3, episode 8 A Red Wheel Arrow. Mira mentions how her and Saul have been married for 35 years which completely contradicts what she said this season about them being married 27 years. No big deal just found it interesting! As we know, continuity and Homeland done always go hand in hand.

Did she? LOL I didn’t even remember. Dumb show, smh.

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In the CBS interview this morning, Rupes mentioned a squib of blood burning his right face. I wonder if it's the scene where he kills Pot Belli. You can see how red his right cheek is.

LOL no clue. There are plenty of bloody Quinn scenes to choose from this season.