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Imagine if Martin had a similar thing with Kevin that carlos had.. Not the same, but similar enough that he starts Kinda Liking Kevin, and what he might do with that. Just an idea that popped in my head looking at your art and i wanted to share!

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Sorry we never got to this, we talked about it several times in group but things just sort of came up for all of us for a while. Anyways, this is something we hadn't really considered because that wasn't Martin's roll; Martin wasn't Jon's Carlos, Martin was Jon's Cecil.

Jon was always supposed to be the one who softened to Kevin because he's a fear feaster himself so despite not wanting to admit it he's more comfortable around them so long as they're not actively trying to hurt him. There is a planned arc that dovey hinted to with this and this where we are going to go into Kevin's obsessive nature, and his all around ability to actually use and discern his powers. At some point Jon is taken to Kevin by the church and he spends time with him there and they sort of a Carlosian thing going on between them a la Carlos cheats on ceecee in the dow. He will, of course, also leave him and come back to Cecil.

That said I hate not yes anding even a little so some of the ways you can get the same fun of Martin falling in love with people he shouldn't can still be found in the fact that while Jon plays the role of Carlos, Martin plays the role of Cecil and it shows in his interactions with the people in Night Vale. Jon will never find a home in there because, like Carlos, he views himself as an outsider. He and the citizens can't manage to get along because he views himself as one with Cecil, but the people fear him and it makes it all feel forced. Like nobody can say no to his being there because Cecil said yes.

Jon and Carlos are both self inflicted outsiders, but Martin being Cecil means anytime you see anyone interacting with one of the boys it becomes more likely for it to be Martin. He's just nice and polite and warm and welcoming. Not to mention he's lonely, and we have our resident fog terror eater Deb. Smth I like to play with but we haven't made canon is that Martin and Deb get along, and have little tea dates where she laughs and introduces him to her many children husbands and wives. Martin is referenced to being close to Earl a few times, and there is a moment of betrayal somewhere s2-3 where its revealed Martin's dating Cecil too, and Earl's soooo upsetties about it. Because they were friends. And he hasn't had real friends in, gosh, since he was nineteen? :^]

Anyways! Little food for thought! We all love Martin so so so much and we love Kevin, so I get where it was coming from, but just imagine a world where Martin can walk the streets and feel welcomed and accepted by everyone. And hes so happy, and gets to go on all his little trips to indie stores and do all his cute boy desires he neglected before because the town accepts him wholesale and LOVES him.

++ Martin wasn't very socialized and has a very "i read it to be like this in a book once, I don't get why its not following the rules??? Its not right!" Mentality from his childhood, and night vale is a really great place to be in for that sort of thing. The oddness of the town sets you off at first, but after a while you learn to like that about it. And in its weirdness it feels very story booky. Martin's out there living his secret garden heroine dream, of being met with hostile that melts away as people get to know him and he never had to cut back on his own character to do it. Now hes a much loved member of the community, and people greet him warmly when he walks by and they mean to do it rather than doing it our of compulsion.

Genuinely, good for him.

- Jovey

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Nightvale is a terrible place

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wtse comic 7.5 hes thirsty martins making him suffer

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he forgor >~<

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notice no ones flirting with me(ben)

sorry, i (keri) posted here on accident and now joves doing it on purpose in solidarity. if you see some nonsense mods are flirting with each other

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update: turns out it was also on accident orz

sorry, i (keri) posted here on accident and now joves doing it on purpose in solidarity. if you see some nonsense mods are flirting with each other

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sorry, i (keri) posted here on accident and now joves doing it on purpose in solidarity. if you see some nonsense mods are flirting with each other

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Your guys Cecil reminds me of Philomena Cunk and I mean that as a compliment

we dont know who that is, but thanks for the compliment!

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So that Martin and Cecil huh

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thank you three beautiful people for making the thing that has made my day. i’m obsessed. can’t wait for more ❤️❤️❤️ i love seeing cecil carlos martin and jon all being cute together

we're so glad you enjoy our little project! this message seriously made our nights too <3

we're actively working on wtse again and will hopefully be putting out more soon!

-keri

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ben and i were on vc last night ironing out some wtse stuff and we got on the topic of what fear rules desert bluffs too and how that all shakes out. and i've talked before about how it's ruled by the flesh but benny finally asked the pressing question: what about the corruption?

and i'm so glad they brought it up because for a couple days i'd been thinking about how, if at all, the corruption fits into it.

in wtse the fears aren't divided and identified the same way they are in TMA,because the fear designations in that universe were just something smirke and his buddies came up with and not The Real Thing and night vale's universe provides different opportunities for the fears to present themselves in different ways. night vale is ruled by an amalgamation of the beholding and the spiral, for example. not the beholding and spiral jon knows, but close enough to be familiar

and while there are slaughter-y elements to desert bluffs, senseless violence isn't a core tenant. the violence is controlled and purposeful, even if it may not seem necessary to someone outside of the culture. it isn't really violence for violence sake, whether it's for food or decor or worship purposes, there is always an identifiable motive or rational for causing harm

and putting aside the fact they worship a big bug, the joyous congregation does have some of the corruption in it, namely the import it places on community and conformity. the corruption is, after all, an entity that works off the power of love, of belonging to a larger process, of being so entwined with it you let it literally eat you alive.

makes me think of a hive of grinning office workers, whose worth is only measured by their productivity.

but also, in it devours when darryl is showing nilanjana the Eleven Stages of Human Education, it seems like the primary figure killed its family to keep them close

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the line "had a toothy smile—or possible snarl?" always reads to me in the same tone as when people comment about kevin "is that a smile," and given kevin founded the church and stephanie muses they use fox imagery because kevin likes foxes it makes more wonder about kevin's own beliefs about keeping his loved ones close

which then makes me wonder about what someone (i think it was bulk) said to me about kevin not being interested in carlos' work, only the results. more importantly, that kevin wanted carlos to keep finding results, he wanted to keep carlos busy, and he wanted to keep carlos busy to keep carlos in the DOW

one of the first faults carlos has to over come in WTNV is being a workaholic, it's the first complaint cecil has when they start dating. but when carlos goes to the DOW kevin pulls that fault right back out of him, encourages and enables him to keep working. and work is the excuse he gives cecil about why he can't leave. a toxic dynamic forms between kevin and carlos where kevin brings out the worst in carlos in order to keep him there

and thats what the joycon does: it encourages working yourself so hard you have no energy left for anything else and encourages you to keep yourself ignorant except for what the pastor spoon feeds you. and all of this is for the good of the community, the good of the collective

anyway, i'm at that point where i either need to stop or i'll start really getting on my soap box. the point is, dbt is flesh-corruption aligned

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this ones older but i never posted it and its always been a fave

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my, @sm0kebreaks , and @game-warden 's tma-wtnv crossover au! we only have the summary for act 1 finished right now, but i'll update this document as the other acts get fleshed out and finalized.

**spoilers for tma and wtnv**

a foundational piece for this au is that, like jon was mainly touched by the beholding and the web, cecil is mainly touched by the beholding and the distortion. jon and cecil have a psychic connection due to their eye link, both tapped into the same well of knowledge. jon's role for the eye is gathering information (the archivist), cecil's role is distributing information (the voice). jon's role was influenced by the web, leading him to act on information he has. cecil was influenced by the distortion, leading him to...distort obviously. jon takes the truth and makes things happen, cecil takes the truth and makes it into a pretty lie you can live with.

Act 1

we start off immediately following the events of mag200, with martin killing jon and they and the fears teleporting out of their reality. martin's still fully awake, clutching the knife, with a limp jon in his arms. cecil was out and about before work, and since he Knows immediately when new people come into town and can Feel that jon is Like Him, he seeks them out. jon eventually wakes up and Knows cecil is Like Him too, and is able to convince martin that they should trust cecil. and besides, they should be dead anyway so if cecil plans on killing them at least they got see each other one last time.

being cut from the eye zapped jon of all his reserved power, and cecil can See that he's in really bad shape. cecil takes them to the station so jon can go into the tape archives and have a snack, and cecil had a show to do anyway. he also pulls aside an intern and tasks her with looking after them and fetching them whatever they need. martin ends up sleeping the entire time while jon goes on a feeding frenzy.

after the show cecil offers them either a hotel or his guest room, and jon picks cecil's place without hesitation and martin's too tired to care. cecil takes them home and they end up sleeping for basically three days straight.

that first week in night vale is spent mainly with jon and martin trying to acclimate to what's happened and actually introduce themselves properly to cecil and carlos. cecil shows jon around town using mainly the eye on the water tower. at the same time carlos draws up a map of the town with all the most dangerous places highlighted and teaches martin how to survive here.

see, cecil grew up with leonard, the voice before him, and trained under him for an uncountable number of years. leonard has only been dead for 40, meaning for most of cecil's immortal life he's had another like him to lean on. meanwhile, jon has only had these powers a few years and it wasn't like jonah was doing anything to help or support him. cecil's happy to not be alone anymore, and jon's happy to have someone who actually knows what he's doing to help him come to grips with himself and what he's been through.

carlos and martin on the other hand are still clinging to normalcy. while martin is himself touched by the fears, he hasn't been consumed beyond recognition and often forgets that he honestly isn't human anymore either. and in him carlos sees himself: a regular man who was seeking knowledge about the unknown who wound up in a relationship with the source of it all. he's fascinated by martin's real-world experience, especially since he's seen how the fears operate from start to finish. he's been able to collect more data than carlos' entire team has!

so while cecil and jon teach each other about their powers, and cecil realizes just what a wreck jon is, carlos takes martin under his wing.

their first few months in night vale jon tags along behind cecil, learning how he can still be a person and be himself while still being able to feed. he learns how to keep from being compelled into action, and, frankly, cecil just teaches him a lot about self-care. they spend a lot of time talking about fate and freewill, and work through jon's belief that everything that happened was entirely his fault. jon can't let go of the fact that he had a plan to set his world right, make it fair, make it so the fears and humans could cohabitate and he wasn't able to execute that plan. and if he'd never come to night vale, maybe he could have lived with the peace of mind that at least he removed the fears from his own world. but seeing what cecil has, he now knows his plan could have worked. he could have fixed it. cecil has to explain to him that they were dealt different hands and did the best with what they had, and slowly cecil gets jon trust himself and the eye again.

and while jon is doing a lot of trying to have fun and relax, carlos gets martin a job at the lab. martin took some time to recuperate, but mostly he's uncomfortable sitting around the house, he needs to feel like he's being made useful. carlos is in love with the simple categories martin has for all the fears, using his experience to help them group the weirdness and start finding correlations and determining meaningful differences. before, his team was just scrambling to predict whether something was dangers or not and if so how much. night vale is so overwhelming and never ending, there was no way to actually understand anything. and martin can give them a shortcut that enables them to start getting some working hypotheses going.

martin feels so good actually studying the paranormal, you know that thing the magnus institute was supposed to be doing. and not even just studying it but contributing to the understanding of it. he's not only being useful, he's being successful. and plus, carlos is 13 years older than him and it's nice having an older-brother figure who claps him on the back and tells him he did a good job.