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i brought up the term enban/enben to someone who said they felt enby was infantilising, and someone else (also nonbinary) commented in response "sometimes i feel like folks just get off on having their own secret codes" and that they wouldnt know what it meant if someone said it to them without an explanation

like a. wtf??? and b. i don't think its that hard to figure out what it means? its just the start of enby + the ending of man/woman

Yeah unfortunately that's a reaction a lot of people have to nonbinary neologisms.

And like. I do understand it somewhat. But I honestly can't help but feel that part of people's resistance to new nonbinary-specific terms is exorsexism. Like... yeah. You won't know it what it means until someone explains because it was just invented. Every single word relating to nonbinary people that we have invented, we have at some point had to explain. To say that a neologism is bad because it's not immediately fully intuitive to you with zero explanation is like. Yeah friend! That's how making new words works! Especially when the word is trying to describe something who's existence has been completely excluded from our culture for the past forever!

I do understand people who personally dislike using enby (I'm not big on using it for myself either, I prefer enban), but I think people will very uncritically call any given nonbinary term "infantilizing" and say stuff like "just call me a slur instead!!" without realizing where that impulse can come from. It's similar to how anything that becomes associated with women develops a reputation for being stupid and shallow and annoying—people have ingrained biases against nonbinary people, so when something reminds them of nonbinary people, they feel an aversion towards it.

People will come up with every single possible reason why every possible neologism won't work (too long, too short, too latin, too germanic, too cringe, too boring) and the end result is that nonbinary language never is able to move forward. Our language will always require explanation and seen abnormal as long as we do not popularize their use, and in order to popularize their use we have to get over our aversion to our own language.

It's not about wanting to be special or "having secret codes," it's about having the basic linguistic visibility that binary people already have. It's about being able to discuss ourselves and each other with ease and clarity and specificity. If you are fine just being called a "person" and using pre-existing gender neutral language for yourself, that's fine. But we deserve so much better than binary people's linguistic scraps. And that means we have to confront what it looks and sounds like to not just casually gender neutral but actively, blatantly outside of the binary in a way that makes people confused or uncomfortable.

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t4t lesbian appreciation moment.

i think clocky transfems are hot and should get more love.

transfems with more masculine features are absolutely stunning.

transfems with stronger bone structures are breathtaking.

transfems with stubble are wonderful.

chubby transfems are amazing.

tall transfems are pretty.

intersex transfems are beautiful.

I AM A PROUD TRANSFEM LESBIAN 🫡🫡🫡 I LOVE TRANS WOMEN AND TRANSFEMS ❤️❤️❤️

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yknow what. fuck it. shoutout to nonbinary trans people and gnc trans people and intersex trans people and people who identify with xenogenders. shoutout to people who fuck around with gender and people who dont use labels to describe their gender and people who are pronoun non conforming. yall are amazing and im tired of people saying otherwise because you dont fit peoples expectation of what they think gender is

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Some of you haven’t fully unpacked the Gender Traitor view of trans men and transmascs and it shows.

You may not be calling us gender traitors outright but then you act as if we’re uniquely more likely to be misogynistic (including transmisogynistic or lesbophobic) than cis men. You imply that by transitioning we’ve escaped misogyny, as if that were the point in the first place. You’re quick to prescribe things like male entitlement to us with zero attempt to understand what might lead us to the decisions we make. You pull us aside to lecture us about how we have to watch ourselves to make sure we’re not misogynistic and how we as men have to use our male privilege to protect women (hey, why do you think the women need the men to protect them like that? It’s a bit patriarchal imo), all while never giving cis men the same spiel.

And then we’re stuck dancing around your assumption that we hate women because we’re trans men! We can’t just say we’re not women without going off about how womanhood is great even if it’s not for us, even though it’s perfectly reasonable to imagine we might have a lot of negative feelings about having been forced to live as girls and women when we aren’t women, even though the type of person who expects this out of, say, people who were raised Christian but aren’t as adults is generally someone most of us can agree is an unreasonable douche looking to convert the person back. And when anything about us makes women uncomfortable, regardless of whether it’s reasonable, we’re the ones who are supposed to accommodate you at our own expense. Trans men get forced into a separate waiting room at the gynecologist’s office because cis women “feel unsafe” about there being a man in the room. We ask to have our voices heard in the conversation surrounding abortion access and reproductive rights and we’re scolded for “making a women’s rights issue about men”. We find historical figures who show every single sign of fitting the description of trans men and cis women crawl out of the woodwork to yell at us for “erasing women from history.”

And with all this in mind, all I can think is that you just see us transitioning as a betrayal towards women. We turned our backs on the Sisterhood or whatever and now we’re the enemy. But as a trans man myself, all I’ve wanted was to just exist in peace as a man. I don’t see any gender as being some opposing force. It’s like hair color to me, just something different about everyone. It’s not my fault I was assigned the wrong gender at birth. It’s not my fault I was born with primary and secondary sex characteristics that give me gender dysphoria. It’s especially not my fault that for thousands of years women and those forcibly assigned as women were regarded as property and treated as such. And yet, somehow, it seems that I’m expected to apologize several times daily for all of this purely because I’m a trans man.

It’s so fucking infuriating. Just let me live, damnit.

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sex chromosome mosaicism flag

[pt: sex chromosome mosaicism flag]

chromosomal mosaicism is a phenomenon which describes someone who has more than one makeup in the number or orientation of their chromosomes for any given pair. sex chromosomal mosaicism only affects the 23rd pair in humans. the most common types of sex chromosome mosaicism that we know of are XO/XX, XXY/XY, and XX/XY, but many different combinations are possible.

the flags background was chosen from the intersex flag. the inner circle is made of a "mosaic" of colors from common stains used to create karyotypes, primarily giemsa dye, which is primarily indigo, blue, and purple, with hints of magenta.

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Its kind of ridiculous how difficult it is to find critical intersex literature if you don't know where to look.

That said, here are frequently cited things I've found. For the one's that are behind paywalls, I have a Google Drive folder set up to hold them for access. The only things I leave behind a paywall are books by individual authors. They are not organized at all, I'm sorry.

Intersex Variations Glossary by InterACT

Narrative Symposium: Intersex—Narrative Inquiry in Bioethics (NIB) Volume 5, Number 2, Summer 2015.— Trigger warning for intersex genital mutilation (IGM), sexual assault, and medical trauma—it's honestly a lot but incredibly important. (Drive)

A human rights investigation into the medical "normalization" of intersex people - A report of a public hearing by the Human Rights Commission of the City & County of San Francisco

Surgical Progress Is Not the Answer to Intersexuality - Cheryl Chase. - TW for IGM and images of genitalia (Drive)

The Intersex Roadshow, a blog of Dr. Cary Gabriel Costello - Costello is an intersex trans man and tries to bridge the gap between trans and intersex issues

Beyond Binary Sex and Gender Ideology - Cary Grabriel Costello - Chapter 12 of The Oxford Handbook of the Sociology of Body and Embodiment (Drive)

Transgender and intersex: theoretical, practical, and artistic perspectives (book/textbook) (Drive)

Intersex: Stories and Statistics from Australia (Book) (Open Access)

Fixing sex: intersex, medical authority, and lived experience (Book)

The harms of medicalisation: intersex, loneliness and abandonment (Open Access Article)

Intersex: cultural and social perspectives (Open Access Article)

Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) - Technical Note on the Human Rights of Intersex People. Basically, if you want an easy way to say that doctors are going against human rights by performing IGM.

An experimental philosophical bioethical study of how human rights are applied to clitorectomy on infants identified as female and as intersex (Open Access Article) - People were more likely to support the same surgery on infants labeled as intersex than they were on infants labeled as female.

Caught in the Gender Binary Blind Spot: Intersex Erasure in Cisgender Rhetoric by Hida Viloria - About how cisgender often doesn't accurately express the experiences intersex people have. Costello, mentioned earlier with Intersex Roadshow, coined Ipsogender for this reason.

Introduction for Intersex Activism - A guide for allies

Sex, Science, and Society: Reckonings and Responsibilities for Biologists (Open Access Article)

Contesting Intersex: The Dubious Diagnosis by Georgiann Davis - TW for medical trauma

Spectacles and Scholarship: Caster Semenya, Intersex Studies, and the Problem of Race in Feminist Theory by Zine Magubane (Drive)

Owning Endosex Privilege and Supporting the Intersex Community: WPATH, Intersex Genital Mutilation (IGM), and Sex Variant Bodies by Margo Schulter

The Spectrum of Sex by Hida Viloria and Dr. Maria Nieto

A long way to go for LGBTI equality from the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights - Before the UK left the EU

If anyone wants to add, feel free! This was the non-medicalized stuff I had saved in Zotero, and definitely not all that's out there.

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I think it’s important for femme’s to remember that you don’t need to be hairless, wear a bunch of pinks or dresses all the time to be considered femme.

You don’t need to look a certain way. You don’t need to weigh a certain number. Or do your makeup every single day or even at all. You don’t need to have long hair or perfect skin.

You don’t need to follow a bunch of rules on how to look to be considered femme. It’s so much more than your appearance.

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it is. it literally is. it's basic transmisia 101 "But What's In Your Pants?"

it was criticised years ago. it was mocked up and down because it's lame, creepy, and deeply transmisic and intersexist.

i don't understand why and how it become acceptable to demand to know someone's agab, to make guesses about someone's agab, or assume someone's agab because of their behavior and then bully them using this assumption. it has been considered terfs' thing.

(agreeing with previous posts)

we as a community need to start considering the act of speculating on a persons agab as an act of transphobia

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I acknowledge, respect and feel connected to trans people who’s transition “begins and ends w changing pronouns” for a lot of reasons but one is that I have watched countless queer + trans ppl be disowned, made homeless, abused and even killed for asserting a change of pronouns.

Social transition comes with countless consequences, which now definitely includes the fact that if someone doesn’t immediately work to physically transition other queer and trans people will start calling them a fake trans predator desperate to steal oppression. Lol.

Personally I want to live in a world where all kinds of trans ppl are allowed to exist comfortably. I embrace what’s called “contradictory” because it shouldn’t be. Be a bearded trans woman getting vaginoplasty. Be a trans man getting 800cc silicone breast implants. I want it all.

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i love being transneutral i love not only being constantly excluded from things in my everyday life by virtue of being nonbinary but Also excluded from trans spaces and discussions bc i dont want to be 'aligned' with the gender binary in any way its awesome

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i love you intersex people with disabling variations. i love you intersex people whose variation was found occasionally. i love you intersex people without specific diagnoses. i love you intersex people whose variations are undescribed. i love you intergender intersex people. i love you intersex4intersex people. i love you cistrans intersex people. i love you transfemmasc and transmascfem intersex people. i love you intersex people!

Show a little more love to intersex people please. I love you ftmtf and mtftm intersex people. I love you afab transfems and amab transmascs. I love you shi/hir pronoun users. I love you people who don't feel "intersex enough" even though you know you are. I love you people who are proud of being intersex, and I love you people who aren't proud yet. I love you intersex people.

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also i hate that people who go stealth are all assumed to like it. as if someone goes stealth it's always because it's what they wanted.

and while some people do want to go stealth and it's their right and perfectly valid desire, we shouldn't forget that some people who go stealth do it not because they really want to. some people go stealth because it's only way to stay relatively safe (stealth ≠ complete safety, but it may be safer than open genderqueer life). and some people who go "stealth" are more like in opposite closet (they're nonbinary but it's unsafe to be genderqueer and they choose to hide under other binary gender role).

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i insist that 100% full-time passing 100% stealth trans men with every possible gender-affirming procedure done still don't have men privilege because men privilege doesn't come with necessity to hide like 80% of your life and experience.

also because all this 100% pass 100% stealth 100% procedures and legal and social changes don't come overnight. even if someone lives in country with trans rights protections and starts their transition early. they have some "before" life and have a long long phase of "some steps done, but not all." they have to fight against medical transmisia, against legal transmisia (at the very least weird requirements like "you have to be on hormones for x years to get surgery/docs change/whatever"). they may have lost some people in their life because transmisist exist even in best places. and even if their whole life was sunshine and rainbows, they still have to know about transmisia and be afraid of it. because it's something that can affect them directly. pericis man doesn't have to worry that if conservative leader wins, all their life can be in danger. their treatment may be stopped, their docs may be overturned, etc. they don't have to read another trans-fearmongeting article and think, "wow, these people hate me."

and even if at the some sunshine-and-rainbow fantasy every single conservative politician was outvoted from the government. they can't forget the fear.

when someone goes stealth, all their previous life doesn't just wanish.

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1) take your time. figuring things out may be difficult and time-consuming. don't rush yourself.

2) transition basically consists of a lot of actions. you may look at every step and ask yourself, "do i want this?"

3) research medical transition options. low doses of hrt (usually give slower changes and they may be less prominent than with full doses). starting hrt, getting some permanent changes you need (for example, voice lowering or bottom growth), and dropping it (some changes will reverse, like fat redistribution or lack of periods if you had them). using dihidrotestosterone inhibitors (they prevent some changes like bottom growth, balding, facial & maybe other body hair growth, etc). using both testosterone and estrogen. surgery options if you are considering surgery. mastectomy, breast reduction, breast augmentation. vaginoplasty, falloplasty, metoidioplasty. preserving surgeries (when your organs are preserved + new are constructed). nullification surgery. hysterectomy, gonadectomy, prostatectomy. know your opportunities, it's more than "this or that binary pack."

4) take it easy #2. you don't have to decide your transition completely, right now, and forever. you know now that you want testosterone? cool, get it. you may think about other steps later.

5) basically, you may think of it by parts. "ok, i have that body part. do i want to have it? do i mind to have it? do i want something instead? if yes, what is it? is it possible to get it, and if yes, how?"

6) don't believe in fearmongering. especially don't believe in exorsexist fearmongering that you only have two binary options and can't change them even in the slightest. transition has a lot of flexibilities.

7) talk with nonbinary people who are willing to tell about their transition. they may give you some examples of what transition may look like and maybe you'll learn about some options you've never heard of before.

i hope something will be applicable!

I'm unsure where I want my transitioning journey to go. I want testosterone and I want the binary world to see me more masculinely, but I also want a "non-binary body," and even I don't know what that means. How does someone transition when they don't know what they're transitioning into?

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Basic info

Perisex means non-intersex. If you do not have an intersex variation you are perisex.

Hermaphrodite is a slur for intersex people.

Contrary to popular belief, it was actually used for intersex humans long before its adoption into zoology to be used for cosexual & dichogamous animal species.

It is being phased out of zoology due to its vagueness and derogatory history.

This movement is still in its infancy, so plenty of sources and communities still use this term. Intersex activists are trying to change this.

Reblog for reach, furries especially!

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my 4 week old kitten Breezy from Real Life was confirmed intersex today by the vet and she has ambiguous genitalia! she's also kind of bald and tiny

Breezy from Real Life is intersex, and she has ambiguous genitalia! ... she's also kind of bald and tiny for whatever reason. Hope she recovers from being Bald and Tiny soon!

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Are there places or organizations to go to when you have evidence you are intersex and need to learn and confirm if so?

I have evidence myself of a past surgery as scarring but can't find any records and had the query tossed aside when I asked my PCP.

What places could I go to if my own Dr won't clarify of an infant surgery and I can't change primary providers? Does an organization like Planned Parenthood do something like that or are there diagrams on the website to an intersex organization that I could cross reference scars to?

i don't know if any organizations do confirmations like this, but @gonyadaldysgenesis created infographics with possible scarring locations, it's here: link (clickable)

if someone knows any relevant resourses, feel free to add. i hope you'll figure things out!