#(very samcoded of him tbh)

[angelsdean]

thinking abt the AU that lives in my mind where john is azazel's vessel again. like jdm literally played azazel in the pilot and mary would Know what her husband's silhouette looks like, she thought that was john because that was john. john-as-azazel feeding sam demon blood. john-as-azazel killing mary. and that's why he's SO hellbent on avenging mary and curing sam + protecting sam from the supernatural, because he remembers and he feels so much guilt. he's the reason his whole family got torn apart that night. if he'd been stronger, if he'd been able to fight the demon....so, he dedicates his life to avenging mary and saving sam. but he goes to extremes, he takes things too far. he lets these quests consume him because he feel he needs to make up for what he did. he neglects his sons to the point of trauma but paints himself the martyr. he's doing all this for them. he's doing all this to make things right.

[billiewena]

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samcoded in that evil spn women are my weakness, I got a complicated history with religion, and I love bullying dean (still love him tho)

I do got the destiel and casgirl brainrot but politically align with sam tumblr on most topics

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[1989doolittle]

okay cat. demanding your opinions on the dynamic between the members of tfw and mulder and scully. xfilesnatural real.

ok. oooh ok. I'm assuming when u say tfw you mean cas sam and dean and not jack so I'm just gonna do those three. something crucial to these dynamics: are we assuming, if they met, that the show xfiles exists in the supernatural universe? If so, it changes a lot. I'm going to make the assumption that it does not, and Dean and Sam have no prior knowledge of who mulder and scully are.

ok im pretty sure we've talked before about that mulder/scully and destiel would see too much of themselves in each other and feel called out. so yeah there's that.

dean and mulder: ok but here's the thing mulder is sorta Dean-coded to me and vice versa so i think they'd absolutely HATE each other. It'd be like a dog looking at itself in the mirror and barking and growling at it's reflection. That's Dean and Mulder. Dean would develop a complex about outperforming mulder in like masculinity or whatever and mulder would just. not care.

Mulder and Cas: Like I said I think mulder would be kinda amused by cas like he'd make some sort of stupid pop culture reference like Dean does all the time and Cas would do his confused head tilt and squint and mulder would laugh a little at it but overall he'd like him

Mulder and Sam: I think mulder would really hit it off with Sam like he's not enough like him to be ticked off by him but they've got enough in common that they can bond over it. they'd be weirdgirl freaks together I think. I bet Sam fixated on UFO sightings at some point in his life and researched the hell out of them and i think they'd talk about it.

Scully and dean: I think at first Dean would do his performative routine of flirting or whatever but he'd drop it very quickly. Scully would inevitably at some point flex her nearly genius levels of smarts and he'd be a little intimidated by it but he's also smart and he talks about some super ingenuitive thing he did growing up or something and she's kinda impressed. She'd also get along with Dean because she'd know it would annoy mulder. She'd also also maybe slightly piss Dean off because of how skeptical and critical of everything she is.

Scully and cas: BEST friends. Scully thinks he's fun and also she asks him philosophical questions about religion and fate and the universe. He'd find her conversation sooo compelling I think. She's insanely smart and he's got the knowledge of like millions of years of existance so they'd bond and bounce right off each other. Obviously scully would have to get over the hurdle of believing it all but im not getting into how she would handle being thrown into supernatural's insane universe shwigsishsjs

Scully and Sam: scully is sorta Samcoded tbh and I think it'd be a similar situation to the dean and mulder one but less overt because scully and sam aren't as confrontational about it. Like they'd see so much of themselves in each other that it'd make them uncomfortable but they wouldn't actually butt heads about it. Shared traits of theirs include but not limited to: past of having bodily autonomy invaded, inner religious conflict, feeling inherently "wrong", etc.

Overall as a group I think they'd start out like. not able to even function as a group they're completely uncoordinated and none of them can deal with Other People that aren't the ones they're used to being with. maybe at first. I can't believe I just wrote this all out btw

[casmick-consequences]

okay um sjdghs yeah thank you for not being mean or thinking I was mean cause I really wasn't! I do really like your blog (we are mutuals and I *think* you know me by name) but zjdgsh jack still isn't Cas coded for me, tbh. He might LOOK like Cas but sjdgsh his literally story was based on his powers othering him (sam), killing his mother (sam) and eventually being manipulated into doing something bad by accident and no bad intentions (sam). he is also infused with very obvious daddy issues (the sam kind more than the Cas kind) and if you thjnk about it I prommy there's not a lot of similarities between his and cas's personalities (except for that they're both wonderful and I love them but that's beside the topic) like Cas plotlines usually go like: huge sacrifices for love, hugely misguided attempts to make everything right, loss of powers leaving him abandoned. while sam (and jack) plot lines are the opposite because it's the ABUNDANCE of power that leaves them abandoned (by Dean, cough, cough) and while cas's powers are seen as desirable throughout the show (when they ARE seen, of course :/) sams were evil and Jack's were evil and they were supposed to be thought of as evil (by us, the narrative and dean) for using them ! So...yeah? also sjdgshs I hear you on the Dean not being a John girl just because he wanted his affirmation so bad and would do anything he said for it — but the jack Dean situation is not exactly the same because the moments that they use to show us that jack loves Dean aren't ones where dean has any expectations from him to be/do good per se???? it's things like fishing and being a dork on a case and they "make jack the happiest he's been" so...? (Plus I DO believe that jack really wanted Dean's approval and Dean to think of him as good, and family but it just...isn't in the same way as John. Dean WAS a dick to jack and it might johncode him but Jack's behavior doesn't s1-dean code him 🥺) so im gonna stick with jack being a samcoded deangirl who looks a lot like Cas actually ajdgshs (also yeah Dean is both a samgirl and a casgirl, he has the range, although you saying he HAS to be a samgirl cause they're blood is kinda weird because I really do think he loves and stans sam as family (in a COMPLETELY non incestuous way oh god) and not just because he has to cause of the script (like some bloggers these days think...which just. what show did you even watch bestie) but yeah. also, if we had to choose, I'd definitely choose sam as a casgirl. Because he appreciates him and looks up to him and cas's opinions really matter to him and he believes in him and wamts him to come home and thinks of him as best friend and family :)

Listen bestie. I get your points, I'm willing to say that Sam's a Casgirl bc he loves his bestie and always tries his best to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe even more than Dean's done.

HOWEVER. Let's go back to the part where you don't think Jack is Cascoded because their plotlines don't match. (Also; Sam didn't kill his mom. Azazel killed her 6 months after his birth. As for the manipulation thing; that happened to all three of them at some point.)

Let's look at your namings of Cas's plotlines:

huge sacrifices for love

Jack literally gave his life/was ready to give his life to save the Winchesters&Castiel on multiple occasions. He kneeled down before Dean's gun because he felt he deserved it, he wanted to kill himself in 13x23 to save Sam and the others, and his entire arc in season 15 was about sacrificing himself to kill God and Amara. So that Sam and Dean could finally be free.

hugely misguided attempts to make everything right

point I mean; this speaks for itself. Things go wrong and Jack always tries to fix it, even if it doesn't turn out well. A GREAT example is everything that went down with him and Dumah; him trying to make Heaven a better place (making angels, killing non-believers, etc) because he believed it'd make Sam and Dean happy, and it would redeem him from killing Mary. In fact, his soulless arc was pretty close to Cas's Godstiel arc. I could even pull up a few parallels for you.

loss of powers leaving him abandoned

He lost his powers in season 14. And yes, he wasn't left on the streets like Cas was. HOWEVER, he felt just as lost and abandoned as he did. Not physically but definitely emotionally. He had no one to connect with and felt useless and hopeless. He stole someone's grace afterwards, though, just like a certain angel we all know and love.

I get what you mean and Sam and Jack do have similar story arcs. But Jack has similar story arcs with all three of them, and he shares all their characteristics because he's their son. All three boys are his dads, but he only has one father and that's Cas. I just think he happens to share more of Cas's personality because he has the same squints, the same awkwardness around humans, the same confusion about specific trivia and the same love for the Winchesters.

Let's just agree to disagree at this point sjkfjsdklf we could go on and on about this.

I enjoy this, though <3 this is fun. I love getting to talk to you ppl about this stuff :D