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Hey, I don't normally make my own posts about this, but.
Do not argue with an anti on their own terms.
Don't get me wrong, I get it. You see the hypocrisy. You see the way they take aim at your favorite ships or characters or tropes while enjoying something similar. And you think "if I can point out to them just how hypocritical and idiotic they look right now, everyone will see our argument, they'll see that the anti is wrong and a hypocrite, and then maybe more people will stop harassing the people who like my thing. Maybe the anti will see the light and stop being a hypocrite."
But it will not work. It will not work.
There is an extremely high chance one of two things will occur:
They will double down on their argument, and ignore what you've said. (Ex. They might say "This relationship has an age gap. That's p3dophi1ia. That's dangerous." And you might say "well you ship something with the same age gap. Is it not p3dophi1ia and dangerous when you do it?" And they will just double down and say "This ship is dangerous. The shippers are grasping at straws to make their p3d0 ship normal.")
They will agree with you, but in the worst way possible. (Ex. Someone says "Ew your ship are basically siblings because they're childhood friends and grew up together. 1nc3st apologist." And you might respond "And yet we allow our most popular ship in this fandom to be popular? They grew up together as childhood friends and were inseparable. Why is that not inc3st?" because you think they'll gain a sense of perspective here. But then that person responds "People who ship that popular ship are freaks too then." Maybe they believed that before the convo or maybe they didn't, but the point now is that (while not your intention or fault by any means) some people have gone on to harass shippers of a ship that aren't doing anything wrong. What you think will bring clarity ends up raising tensions between shippers instead)
Do not meet them where they're at on their preconceived notions. You will not make them believe that they are wrong or hypocrites. Do not concede to their heavy assertions of abuse, p3dophi1ia, 1nc3st, etc levied against the thing you like for the sake of arguing that they are a hypocrite, or with intent to make them feel dumb for inadvertently labeling 80% of a fandom with said labels. They will not "see the light". The best thing you can do, if you have to say anything, is double down with "I'm not hurting anyone and it's fiction. I can do whatever I want" or "I don't give a shit what harmless things people like as long as it's tagged and I can filter out what I dislike" (especially if this is your stance). Then block and move on.
Antis, like trolls, thrive on engagement. They want you to argue so they can continue to point at you or lie about you or make you look bad.
It is in your best interest to pick your battles, and to try to sus out the difference between a friendly argument or standing up for yourself versus feeding the trolls. You won't make the right choice every time, all of us are human after all, but I promise you that ignoring and blocking bad faith actors, deleting their hate anons, etc, is not the coward's way out. Sometimes you don't need to fight. Sometimes keeping yourself from platforming bad faith actors and giving them nothing to go on will do the job (because there are more antis that are just small blogs with little power to do anything than you think, the kinds of people whose inflammatory posts will die if no one touches them).
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
#fandom wank#I'm not perfect either. I also fall into those same reasoning traps from time to time#that's why this is meant to be a psa or friendly reminder#I know how easy it is to get frustrated#I know how easy it is to get stuck thinking about how people are being stupid or hypocritical and feeling like there must be some way you#can get through to them#I know how tempting it is to compare other relationships or other characters or other medias people like to your own as a defense in hopes#that it will make things better for everyone (and it's tempting too to believe that people who ship the popular thing or like the popular#character have no problems and never deal with antis)#But you can't fight fire with fire or your reasoning to make people who want conflict stop pushing for conflict#These days (frustrated as I am watching entire communities of people who have committed no crimes get bullied off platforms for thoughtcrim#or for not conforming to the tastes of a pearl clutchy majority who has confused fictional tastes with real crimes and activism#) I have come to the conclusion that the best way to improve things is to just...become someone who unabashedly enjoys things. For me‚ I#think that if a community grows enough publicly‚ people won't be able to do much about it than complain in the end.#It may be scary to attach your main blog or your name to your interests your peers may bully/harass you for. But even if it means making ne#accounts/blogs/emails/etc‚ it's okay to do whatever you need to enjoy something and find your community.#You're not a coward or bad for being afraid or a lurker. You have reasonable things to fear. But if you've been craving fostering a renewed#community over a ship or character‚ then this post is your sign to take that step and become an avid poster or to publicly engage with the#few people who are posting it. Community starts with us‚ the people. And I think it's better if we decided to like the harmless things we#like publicly and enjoy the life we have than to just wait and hope things will be better and less hostile one day#Things are bleak‚ but they are not hopeless. You are not alone. You don't have to make large steps or be a major player of even be a big#contributing fandom member. You don't have to be anything. But the idea that you have to be quiet and keep silent about your fandom#interests because the antis won is just simply not true. They just want you to feel that way‚ because then they can keep their mental high#of having bullied people into obscurity#Anyways sorry about this. I'll try to go back to regular fandom posting#i just be ramblin
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smilesrobotlover · 21 days ago
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I really hate how comfy people have gotten with saying how much they hate LU. I understand the frustration towards the fandom and stuff, but I feel like almost EVERYONE, the fandom and the haters, forget that this is one person’s au. An au they hold near and dear to their heart. It’s not something created by a big team of people, it’s not something created by a corporation, it’s something created by a single person who has their own headcanons and ideas with the games. I don’t think it’s polite or ok to say how much you hate the au and how much you hate the interpretations of the characters and how much you hate the designs or stupid stuff like that. I do understand the frustration of seeing it everywhere, cuz I def feel that for sure, but that’s not really Jojo’s fault and it’s not ok to suddenly attack her artistic ability or storytelling cuz of that. Because she’s one person who’s passionate about Zelda and wanted to share a story. That’s it.
And it’s not constructive criticism, nor is it really criticism. It’s ok to not like something, but when it comes to this type of thing, it’s just unnecessary hate. Keep it to yourself. Jojo is a human being with feelings. She probably doesn’t see any of the stuff people say, which is for the best, but I know if I saw people saying stuff like that about my au I’d be devastated and would probably give up on everything, cuz hateful words sting.
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rouge-fauna · 7 months ago
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Normally, I wouldn't really say anything about the drama and stuff, because that's not what I'm here for and honestly I feel like a lot of it is just none of my business. But, it just feels so close to home for me that I can't help but say something. Because here's the thing people aren't going to talk about and probably don't even realize, but I think so much of this drama actually has to do with Dream being autistic.
Just notice the themes of what Tubbo said about Dream being weird, inappropriate, not considering the social boundaries, not communicating, coming across wrong… etc these are all things that can be attributed to Dream literally not knowing better because of neurodivergence. That’s not an excuse but an explanation to know the difference between Dream texting Tommy’s mom out of being manipulative versus not understanding how that breaks a social boundary. That’s not to say Dream should get a free pass to do whatever but I think in the same way we take into consideration other people’s ages and their naivety and obliviousness and inexperience into consideration, Dream’s neurodivergence should be considered too. It is valid. It makes a difference between manipulative and malicious intent versus simply not seeing it the same way.
And really the sad thing is, that I think people will always dislike Dream. At the end of the day, I think that will never change, because even if he was the most perfect person people would still dislike him because of an underlying subconscious response to him not being like the rest. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he is made the villain in real life and in the dsmp, because it is simply a psychological fact that people inherently dislike autistic people. It’s not because they are ableist it’s just we don’t act like they do so that makes us weird and therefore unlikeable. And it’s hard to understand us because our brains our literally different and as has been said throughout history what we don’t understand we hate, we fear, we see as evil, we attack. Why does Dream get canceled and attacked over and over again? Not because they are true and it proves a pattern that he’s shitty, but because society is so desperate to find a more tangible reason to hate him other than the fact that they just do. Because his behavior breaks social rules he didn’t realize existed. Because he’s easy pickings. Because in my opinion it all comes down to autism and honestly until that piece is actually taken into consideration nothing will probably resolve.
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owl-nerd-13 · 2 months ago
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So, I’m finally getting around to properly reading Conclave, and Lomeli keeps. insulting. the food. It’s overcooked, it’s dry, it’s congealed. And as someone who has worked in food service, and has had to prepare meals for over a hundred people, I am mentally hitting him with a fucking shoe like BE NICE TO THE NUNS THEY ARE WORKING HARD and STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING YOU ARE EATING FUCKING VEAL AND CHICKEN CORDON BLUE (or something similar) DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS TO PREPARE FOR CROWDS I’M ASSUMING ITS PRETTY FUCKING HARD
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itspileofgoodthings · 1 month ago
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did you guys know that my next year’s roster for my world lit class was so over-full that I had the scheduler come to me and be like “you have to help me decide who’s getting into your class because every time I cut someone I get an email protesting vigorously but there just isn’t room for them all”
#teaching tag#lol#this is a BLATANT flex but it’s been a week from hell so I am indulging#shrug#it’s a combination of the fact that I am not AP#and the course material is a little easier#but also. they want the Experience. and the Joy.#and that makes me happy#does it baffle my principal? who frankly doesn’t get it? lol yes#it’s because I have many layers and people who are not my students (or followers on tumblr)#do not get to see the deepest layer of me caring about literature and speaking passionately on it#and when the kids do see it they want to be a part of it for as long as they can#(not all of them) (lol)#it’s funny because I can tell the principal knows that it isn’t just because I am ‘easy’ or even just ‘fun’ that there’s some other draw#but being a man of no imagination or sensitivity he sees nothing extraordinary in me by any measure#and he stays baffled!#anyway. Will this cause problems down the line for me#undoubtedly#because actually it’s not a power that is going away#and it’s not just accidental buzz. it’s baked into who I am as a teacher. and it only increases as I learn how to use my powers better#and people who are not in the class will stay not understanding#anyways. I’m allowed to say all of this because I can be honest about the fact that in a way (in a way)#this doesn’t make my job any easier#I mean it does. because there is a lot they are willing to do for me.#but the job stays frustrating and is fraught with many dangers#and because I will not run a cult of personality (despite this post) it requires so much work from me
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skunkes · 2 years ago
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Nooooo that sad little smunkler has broken my heart! Wtf Talon stop being so mean to him for no reason!!! >:[
its okay, he just has bad days sometimes
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ohbutwheresyourheart · 2 months ago
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as might be gleaned by the recent tommy crumb posting, I recently started re-reading the mirror and the light and I had completely forgotten how panicked riche is during his first king's council meeting. absolute perfect representation of the "accidentally became important at work" meme. boy does NOT want to be there.
#and also how panicked call-me is from the get-go#for honestly totally legitimate reasons#mantel herself put it perfectly: these characters don't know they are in history#as far as riche and call-me are concerned cromwell was on the absolute BRINK of destruction after anne's death#and the two of them may well have gone down with him#i do feel sorry for call-me in particular because it does feel like he genuinely cares for cromwell too#like yeah yeah he's absolutely self-interested (lions fighting over christians) BUT he obvs doesn't want to see cromwell fall#the scene where he's trying desperately to get cromwell to bring down the old families to the point where he starts crying#he's SCARED#i love his relationship with cromwell so much bc it's such a great mirror (and the light???) to cromwell's relationship with wolsey#it makes me think of the line from wolf hall where cromwell reproves himself for letting wolsey rest so easy#when cromwell knew the court was out for his blood#i think call-me remembers wolsey too and he doesn't want to see his own master fall#and by the end of the novel i think he perfectly understands how cromwell felt right after wolsey's death#they both tried their best but couldn't turn the king from his course#they both had to make a choice: do i go down with my master or do i survive#and i think cromwell understands that; if anything his main frustration with call-me is that call-me won't just admit that to him#and is still trying to get cromwell's forgiveness/blessing for betraying him right up until the end#like yeah cromwell understands what call-me is doing and why but for fuck's sake he's not going to-- wait#oh god it's just#i'm NOT going to call you a good boy call-me you gave the king evidence against me!#anyway. i love these terrible men who have been dead for five hundred years.#wolf hall#thomas cromwell#thomas wriothesley#richard riche#love how i made a post about riche and then word vomited in the tags exclusively about call-me#oh tommy crumb we're really in it now
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opens-up-4-nobody · 4 months ago
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#it's strange to have a self contained perfectionism. i know other people who wish they could control other people out of being chaotic.#people who try to make everything black or white. people who want to always be in control of their situation and the big dangerous vehicles#they travel within. but that's not how my control issues manifest. i think people are allowed to be messy and irratic. i like when#situations and ideas are nuanced. i would rather not be in complete control of my surroundings. the only thing i need complete and utter#control of is myself. i am not allowed to be messy. i want everything about myself to be black or white. i want to have complete control of#this human vessel. my perfectionism is self contained. and its deeply irrational. and deeply frustrating because my perfectionism is#imperfect and lazy. because im getting better and its difficult but easier than i would have expected. and rationally i know thats a good#thing but then all i see is my lack of conviction. if i was more perfect i would be worse. if i was more perfect someone would have noticed#how sick i was or would have actually said or done something. someone would have stopped me. so i wasnt really that sick and im not really#that sick now. and its not a big deal. because it all seems so easy now. so it seems like i was just a slightly odd very quiet kid with#control issues who stopped eating and never learned how to take up any space. and i get so fucking frustrated at every doctor i talk to#because they all treat me so gently and talk to me so cautiously and i know thats their job and i know they're saying the right things. but#its not like i stumbled blindly into this. i did it intentionally and maliciously. i know its a road paved in suffering and ending in death.#that was the point. this wasnt born of vanity it was born of malice. and youre only worried now because im telling you to worry so shut the#fuck up and let me fix my own problem. its just that i never intended to make is this far and that me of the past was trying to poison my#future. so i have 15yrs curroded and spongy from wishing death upon myself. and now that the idea of my box of ashes sitting on my dad's#mantle next to my mom's rips me apart i have to find a new path forward. even when all i can think is that i still wish i was worse#resenting that i have to get better when it feels easier to be distructive. if you hand me a knife my instict is to twist it in my gut. so#what now? its just irritating. because i always was and remain a picky eater so i have to choose to choke down whats on my plate.#anyway. just another adventure in the eternal paradox of internal perfectionism while being a compulsively analytical ecologist.#unrelated
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izzy-b-hands · 14 days ago
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horror movie set on the prairie once again immediately ruined by a lack of historical research into A. the sort of houses that would be out there and B. the protections they'd have with those houses that would keep wolves and other creatures out.
Like, first off, where is the sod house that would be accurate to this time period? And two, I know there's meant to be a supernatural aspect at some point (per the redditors who recc'd this) but like. Those are normal wolves; nothing has been established other than a poor initial storyline with acting that is...acting because it occurred on camera and I can tell they did their best. They're clearly trying and that's good of them bc the dialogue and overall plot aren't helping so they've got a Task on their shoulders (carrying this movie as best they can.)
#text post#this is someone who wanted to write a city based horror movie but wanted to set it on the prairie#how does the husband never have to do literally anything? they aren't trying any of the few crops that they might have gotten to flourish#in the shitty silty soil??#why does their 'new neighbour' that is WAY too close to them have hair and costuming from a later time period than the main character#and her husband who acts like he was raised in at least 2015 instead of ya know. 'olden times' lmao#I'm typing as I watch and they also fucked up the time period for this character being brought out there#if her parents brought her over than based on what I know for those stats in most prairie states#she should be too young to be the main character in this movie#'not enough ppl out here or a church yet'#hooooorse shit lmao; they were building churches w/two ppl in town bc that was Everything#you didn't build community without a church building or some sort of meeting hall to welcome newcomers#like North and South Dakota and all the upper prairie states have resources like this online#easily searchable!! w/pictures and all of the houses and things!!!#I know this is a very particular set of frustrations to have w/this movie#bc I grew up in a prairie state but it's so frustrating bc it's So Lazy#...that is a store bought fucking patchwork quilt that you can tell is a printed pattern more than any actual patchwork COME THE FUCK ON#also she's a first gen German immigrant but she has no accent? none?#that basic German immigrant accent is something even kids now there know abt bc you hear it in your older family member's voices#even my grandparents still have a hint of it; it affects how everyone talks bc they all grew up w/it!!!!#also don't love how all of this revolves around dead babies and failed pregnancies that are all somehow her fault#but like. they never deliver on that#pun unintended but literally they start out w/ppl being angry at her abt it one second then the next 'nah it's fine'#PLEASE choose where you're going w/this#the prairie is large and easy to get lost on despite the openness and this movie is LOST#will i finish this out of spite? we shall see lmao
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yoccu · 5 months ago
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I’m having a straight up terrible time drawing two environments for Dyskrasias AMV but I’m being really brave about it!
#I really hate how they’re coming out LMAO#I’m gonna put all my frustrations here bc not talking about it feels like dying#I am spending way too much time on both bc that’s how I respond to not knowing how to draw something#and usually my solution is to practice until I feel good enough to make the final product#but dyskrasias AMV is ALL ABOUT just getting it DONE even if I don’t like it much#getting it good enough and LEAVING IT THERE#but it’s agonizing knowing I will Not Like It later#the only thing more agonizing is spending all this much time on it already and not finishing at all#so I keep!!!!! Going!!!!!!!#it will be real!!!!!#I’m also definitely proud of enough if it that I’m Okay with some parts just not being as good#i just would be less embarrassed by being not proud of this work if it took less time?#does that make sense.#I hate being like no this isn’t good yes it took four hours :^)#but it’s ok bc it will! be! done!!!#im also very scared of the animation at the end for this reason#I’d like it to be Good but well. listen.#I’m not gonna learn animation for less than a second of AMV. I’m not. I’m not gonna practice.#it’ll turn out how it turns out.#I’ll save that part for after I’ve drawn something I’m really excited about#ride that wave of self esteem straight into the gutter#but those are my frustrations and they are forgiving enough!!#I’m still happy I’m working on this it just can’t be helped that some parts of the process#are less fun. or lacking in fun entirely.#If making things was only easy and fun many more things would exist!!
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rustedhills · 6 hours ago
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My opinions on genAI are too complex to write in a snappy tumblr post BUT if my university just, say, updated its AI policy and released its OWN AI PROGRAM
And also values its reputation as an academic and research university (I hope)
And generally wants its student body to do Good Academic Work
Then THIS
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Is a WILD thing to say when the AI is supposedly SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STUDENT BODY
"Oh yeah we released a new does-work-in-an-academic-setting machine"
"It's just got a significant error rate and shouldn't be trusted lol"
"lmao"
"Also we're laying off a bunch of staff and instituting budget cuts university wide"
"But tuition's still 50k a semester"
"ppppbpbbptpbpbpbpbpttttt"
#I'm actually pretty interested in llms as tools and ways of experimenting with information#but the amount to which they!ve been embraced as search engines is quite annoying#and imo promotes disinterest in the /act/ of searching for and making connections a#between pieces of information#which is basically my entire field's research component#(not that I believe they're making the kids stupid or smth)#(I remember the moral panic about iphones and I'm not gonna believe that gpt kills braincells or whatever)#if anything I wish there was a way to teach that research#in itself#could be a fun and rewarding thing--that the journey of finding and interpreting information#free of external interpretation#bias#or potential censorship#is worthwhile#but given that both the school system and internet have seen a fair amount of enshittification#yes I believe that the hyper-standardization of academia is harmful to passion)#I can also see why students are drawn to easy#and seemingly well-articulated information which doesn't require additional work.#the big issue for me is that we can't see the innards. we don't get to make choices about the nature of the program beyond prompting it.#it imposes a surprising passivity upon students#when the best research is often active to the point of disruption#also yes I know that saying the ai can be untrustworthy is not some blanket condemnation of its functionality#but#it' still frustrating to see people get so excited about something which is known for lying to users enough that it's an accepted caveat#at least in historical research we're taught /how/ to critically process and analyze text!
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pangzi · 1 year ago
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can we just talk about how incredible wandee goodday is with their narrative devices though? the foreshadowing is incredible. there's symbolism everywhere. the oyeicher/yakdee juxtapositions are so good. even though their words and actions might contradict each other, everything gets spelled out for us so clearly, it's beautiful.
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zackcharine · 7 months ago
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I need to try harder to get out of bed but augh
#🤖.txt#aghhfjg i really need to catch up on sleep. but i also want to do stuff but idk. this is dumb but nothing i do really feels worth the effor#anymore. Thinking like this is sad bc drawing is one of the few things i like doing and make me happy but idk#i might just go back to the way things were before. Just wait for the weekend and spend as much time drawing then#genuinely dont want to do anything at all this is so frustrating and im so tired and sad all the time#i know i should be using my break to focus on studying but with what time#Idkkkk i just really hate living like this#thinking about dropping out again but that would just mean house chores + babysitting full time while job hunting and idk if i can handle#that. I cant handle anything anymore and this is making me so sad . I want to be useful and do so many things but i reached my limit months#ago. I just wanted a week or two to just rest its all i need . But i know im never gonna get that again and at this point i might as well#just die but i cant do that neither bc i have shit to do#Everyone is always talking about how i have it so easy and how things are just gonna get worse bc they think me being home = me not doing#anything and idk. I cant take anything anymore and i think the most upsetting part of this is that i know theyre right#im not doing barely anything and i dont know. How to do more im just useless and ungrateful for the things i have#Really stressed and tired and literally nothing happened. Its gonna be 2pm soon and im supposed to wake up Earlier#But yeagh. this wasnt supposed to be this wall of text i just wanted to say that i might give up on art again for a while#aughhh i dont know how to do anything right idk how to live or take care of myself how am i supposed to raise someone .#this is. too much i think. I reallyyyyy need to relearn how to just talk to myself . I cant keep dropping these everyday and being . This t#evsryone around me. Everyone in my life deserves so much better than ill ever be#vent
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ambrosiagourmet · 1 year ago
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I enjoy Mickbell as a character but WHAT is up with the propaganda going on about lately. He and Kuro aren’t just people who don’t know how to communicate but secretly mutually respect each other. And Kuro definitely Mick’s older brother or dad. He might think is. But Mickbell is 4 year older than Kuro, and he comes from a race that ages faster. Kuro doesn’t speak common or have enough context to understand or easily learn that Mickbell is an adult.
Like imagine if it turned out that the troubled 17-year-old paying you in scooby snacks turned out to actually a 30-year-old man.
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beevean · 1 year ago
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Lenore: [Carmilla] showed me her maps. I made her angry, I think. She showed me maps of the world. Hector: I know, I know. A giant human pen from here to Braila. I've had the lectures. Lenore: Not anymore. Hector: She's been scheming. Lenore: And she showed me maps of the world, Hector. Hector: The world. Lenore: The pen was about securing our survival and safety for centuries to come. It was an insane idea, but we could stretch and make it work. But now she sees weakness everywhere. And we were a strong and stable community in a world that lost many of its vampire leaders at Braila. Hector: So what you're saying is if it's there, she's going to drink it. Lenore: She said she had one plan: to annex land from here to the sea. She promised me that was her plan, and then she was left alone, and then I made her angry and she showed me her maps. I think she lied to me. Hector: Just the way Dracula lied to me.
So this is another way S4 forcibly pushes a connection between Hector and Lenore for the sake of making us sympathize with her.
Lenore is panicking about Carmilla's new plan. In theory, she's worried about the kingdom's stability and Carmilla's sanity, but I'll come back to her true reasons for protesting. For now, the point is that Lenore, in her circular reasoning, somehow went from "we left her alone, and she started scheming beyond her original plan" to "she was lying to me, and only revealed the truth when I made her angry: if I didn't, she would have kept the lie". Now, this doesn't make sense in any way: why would Carmilla lie to one of her closest allies? Even if Lenore is useless to her plan, she is still an ally and a friend (allegedly), and it would be both disadvantageous and impractical to keep her in the dark. The framing is very much that Carmilla went mad and got hungrier for power and her plan morphed in those six weeks between S3 and S4, and she just happened to choose that moment to rant.
(hilariously, the dialogue is extremely contrived too: Lenore just says "Please, would Dracula have kept [Hector] around in his own castle if he were that dangerous?" and that spurns Carmilla to completely forget about the issue of Hector behaving suspiciously and talk about the castle she didn't get, which wasn't even remotely Lenore's point. yeah no she didn't reveal the plan out of anger, but out of writing convenience lmao)
Now, I could concede this as the character being wrong. Lenore is allowed to be wrong, and the bias she's expressing make sense: the situation is making her feel insecure, unneeded and perhaps unwanted. Remember: this is the same scene where she appreciates Hector for not making her feel bad about raping him into slavery "wanting to listen to her", unlike everyone else in the castle. She is lost and confused and can't trust Carmilla anymore, and as I pointed out she is incredibly self-centered, so fine, I buy that she interprets her behavior as malice against her.
But the framing is not that. Because then Hector remembers he is a human being with a brain and says the only meaningful response to Lenore's rant.
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And this is bullshit.
The two situations are not comparable from this angle. Carmilla is being set to be Dracula 2.0, that much is true: an insane old woman who has lost her way, consumed by pain and hatred, and is no longer thinking about the consequences of her plan, risking the safety of her underlings. But that's the extent of it. Carmilla actually cares about her sisters, in her own way, even if she makes fun of Lenore for her love for animals. Lenore perceived Carmilla as getting angry at her, but in reality she simply got worked up, and had nothing against her if not her incompetence in making Hector work, which got resolved anyway.
We don't know how the other three got roped into her council, but there is zero indication that Carmilla ever used bold-faced lies like when Dracula promised Hector that they'd work to cull mankind when in reality he wanted to exterminate everyone, something he even admitted to do because "he's easy to lie to". He did not change his plan between his hiring of Hector and his death! He deliberately lied to him from the get-go!
Hector and Lenore have the similar situation of being considered the weaklings of the group for their softness and misguided ideas of mercy. They could bond over that. But Hector's situation was still far worse: he got taken advantage of precisely because of his softness and his pathological need to be loved, something Lenore cannot share because, even with her soft façade, she is too cunning to be tricked, lives her comfortable life as one of the queens, and she was considered integral to the group until now. Hector was betrayed by Dracula, only the first of many instances: he got convinced that Dracula planned to kill him too, and we don't know if he would have done it, but the story seems to believe so. And that's not mentioning how this betrayal was the catalyst for all the hell Hector went through, which incidentally included Lenore. We see with our own eyes that Hector's reaction to being powerless is fawning and clinging, while Lenore's reaction to feeling powerless is exerting her power over creatures beneath her.
You don't get to pull the 🥺 face on me, Lenore. You don't get to create a "you're just like me fr fr" moment by twisting the narrative to look more of a woobie than you are. Especially not right after you shushed Hector down when he dared to complain about being raped. You are not the victim here, you can't fathom the heartbreak Hector went through because of Dracula, Carmilla and you, and the relationship between you two is built on nothing but lies, both of your telling and of the disingenuous story itself which at this point is a bigger liar than all three of those characters.
And yes, this is a lie from the story, because this feels like a deliberate retcon! Lenore in S3 was a complacent cog in the machine. She agreed to help Carmilla, she admits in that very scene in S4 that she saw the original plan as a way to secure stability which is what she cares about the most, and all of her gaslighting, manipulations and sexual abuse were for the main purpose of turning Hector into the perfect tool to proceed with that plan (the pet part was a nice bonus). There is the theory that she didn't like the plan much based on one frame where she frowns, but as usual, other expressions of hers betray her:
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She seems quite happy with it! She just apparently didn't like Carmilla's "self-replicating food" joke, for reasons I don't understand - she too treats Hector like an animal, so I don't see why she'd be miffed at the dehumanization. Sure, Carmilla's joke darkly implies the humans would be forced to breed, but why would the residential rapist care? Or maybe it's just her being not very amused at Carmilla's sense of humor in general. the joke was pretty stupid, tbh - all organic food is "self-replicating", your evil speeches need some serious work girl
Even if I believed that she is acting here, and was always secretly uncomfortable with this livestock plan and all that it entailed, she clearly did not protest much, and accepted to go along for the sake of the security that the plan would grant her. In fact, resorting to abuse and rape for the sake of a plan she didn't even approve doesn't make her much better.
Actually, while I'm at it, it's very noticeable to me that Lenore, who was introduced to us as such an animal lover that she'd tear up the castle to find a splinter for a spider, shows absolutely zero compassion for all those "animals" bound to be caged and bled to death for her survival, and only makes it about how useless she'll be. In fact, let's go back to how she introduces her new subject of whining!
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It's one thing to point out how diplomacy would be dead in Carmilla's vision of the world, which would be all based on conquest and subjugation, which is a reasonable, selfless concern. Were she mainly worried that the times of peace are coming to an end and she's scared of all the needless bloodshed and misery Carmilla is going to cause, I'd buy this - she does say, in S4E2, that "I will never be comfortable with the idea that the best way to end war is to kill most of the people and cage the rest" (notice, however, the word "uncomfortable" in this context. Not that it's morally appalling, just that it makes her upset. mhh). But clearly, her main issue is that she'd be out of a job and she'll feel useless in the council. It's all about her and her poor feelings.
When we humans hear about animals being slaughtered, like baby seals or elephants, we tend to be horrified for them. This is the equivalent of hearing that slaves in Congo are dying en masse to mine cobalt, and only being concerned that the prices of iPhones might go up. Much kindness, many morally grey.
And say what you want about Hector's own lack of empathy for humans, but his reasoning did stem from his love of animals and seeing his own species like animals as well, animals who deeply hurt him and therefore needed to be controlled, while also providing food to vampires who to him were yet another species of animals! It's a terrible reasoning that he should have grown out of, but it is a twisted form of compassion! Lenore just wanted the comfort of easy food and an easy job! Lenore is boohooing now because her self-esteem is on the line, but she's not saying anything that can be equated to Hector shouting that he doesn't want to paddle in the blood of children, a moral concern he had once he started to realize Dracula's plan entailed more bloodshed than he wanted!
Unlike Hector who apparently didn't think much about the aftermath and honestly thought he would do a good thing in his naiveté, Lenore was fully aware of what Carmilla's idea entailed and went along with it for her own comfort. Carmilla just expanded her view later on! But of course, if we now say that Carmilla lied to Lenore and the story doesn't stop to remind us of what happened one season prior, Lenore suddenly becomes innocent, because see? She's better than mean Carmilla! She only raped Hector for his own good, but she didn't mean to harm mankind! It's literally the same logic that neutered the ring: everything must be sanitized to paint Lenore as this innocent, tragic figure.
Again, what irritates me is that the parallels are there. Carmilla is going insane like Dracula, yes, and she is endangering the kingdom. Lenore feels the black sheep of the group like Hector was (although he never realized it, even though Isaac always talked to him like he itched to call him the R-slur). They have traits in common! Use them! But no, this plotline is nothing more than the writers yelling "PLEASE FEEL SOWWY FOR THE WIDDLE RAPIST SHE DID NOTHING WRONG IN HER LIFE LOOK AT HER CUTE FACE 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 CARMILLA IS THE TRUE MEANIE HATE THAT BITCH NOT OUR LENORE WHO IS JUST A POOR GIRL AND NOBODY LOVES HER 🥺"
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owlyspirit · 25 days ago
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just realized that maybe being constantly tired for years to the point I have no free time and the only time I am awake is when my adhd meds work isn't normal and can't just be attributed to my depression since I did try out a ton of anti depressants with it..............
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