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the star wars fandom is really a hellfire send help
if people could stop vagueposting me I would appreciate it
someone talking about how they have a different interpretation of a ship than me, probably spurred by my post because of the timing and wording: sure go nuts!
someone dismissing my 'tusken massacre is not a genocide because Words Mean Things and that is, objectively, not it' by stringing together screenshots and a clearly misunderstood google definition: can I leave?
it's just not fun to randomly stumble across digs about you on the internet about serious topics you actually know stuff about
like it's the silly pew pew movies if you have a different interpretation to me that's fine but like. what is with all the hostility? it's really tiresome and not fun
#like#I know I'm informal on here but I do know my shit when it comes to law politics social structures etc.#like of course I get frustrated with people who refuse to see that the jedi are flawed!#but I don't directly interact with people#I just#hm#not sure if the star wars fandom is exactly great for my mental health?#it makes me irritable because people are so so rude#and do not engage with the text in good faith#and refuse to see nuance#I have found all the adults with below sixth grade literacy they are in the star wars fandom#apparently#star wars#genocide#well mention thereof
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So like, y'all know that popular Star Wars fic trope of Time Traveling Obi-Wan Kenobi where he dies and then wakes up in his 11ish year old body back in the Jedi Temple? You know how usually he wakes up, has a few minutes/hours of confusion, and then goes about trying to act like he was at age 11 while slowly fixing everything wrong with the Jedi Order? Personally I think he would not do that.
I think that Ben "Lived As A Wizard Hermit For Two Decades On Tattooine, Left, And Then Died Immediately" Kenobi would wake up as an eleven-year-old, have a panic attack, attack the nearest adult Jedi while accusing them of Doing Weird Sith Shit To His Brain, fucking flee, only then realize he has time traveled, steal someone's ship, go flying out of the temple to god knows where, continue panicking, crash into a random moon while distracted, nearly die, build a survival camp out of his broken ass ship and eat whatever bugs he can find, get kidnapped by pirates, overthrow said pirates, steal their ship, and then very calmly return to the Jedi temple like nothing happened.
Then and only then do I think he would start trying to act like a normal human person (while also dodging questions such as "what the fuck was that" and "where were you" and "is that a pirate's ship?"), except he'd be bad at it due to having lived as an Insane Wizard Desert Hermit for the past twenty years who has experienced enough trauma and time that he doesn't super well remember the details of his childhood, what with all of the wars and death and wars and such.
His acting convinces nobody, but nobody is sure what exactly to do about All Of That so he's for the most part left alone (after very vehemently refusing sptherapy), all the way up until he catches a glimpse of palpatine out of the corner of his eye and then its On Sight
#mads posts#star wars#obi-wan kenobi#specifically i see fics where he gets blasted back to the past and he genuinely acts like he's 11 or whatever age again#and im like NO thats some fuckin weirdo inhabiting the body of an eleven year old#thats a fiftyish year old dude who looks eighty and thinks the best way to train Newly Discovered Force-Sensitive Luke is to blindfold and#shoot at him#he spent twenty years fucking around in a desert and left the planet one (1) time to go rescue leia#he cannot in any way act like a normal child are you kidding me#he was only ever 'normal' during the clone wars because he was standing next to Anakin 'hey watch this' skywalker#actually i think if obi wan were to try to act like a normal kid of the age he appears he would either wildly over or undershoot#he'd be like. huge eyes and babytalk and innocent expressions OR he'd forget he doesn't alr know the nuances of the Alderaanian government#but he couldnt pull off 'totally normal guy dont mind me'#obi wan doesnt manage to oneshot palpatine btw. that would be too boring#he steals the nearest available lightsaber and Goes For It and obv is stopped due to being shaped like a baby and having the strength of on#and then again refuses to answer any questions
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actually some more on this: i think this is an incredibly smart choice to make for the pitt. we liked Langdon and we were meant to! but its often people who fall into addiction arent people youd expect. its very often genuinly put together friendly and respectable folks. and Langdon is very clearly not who a lot of you picture when you picture an addict and thats SO clear with these reactions
and like Santos? yes shes kind of an asshole but shes only ever been cocky and insensitive. but the thing to realise is shes NEVER been malicious. she is so clearly set up to be someone to dislike at first. but outside of her very clearly built to be deconstructed façade she was never a villain and she very much did always have reasonable cause to doubt Langdon. And she was RIGHT! and he was treating her badly even when she was correct btw!
#i <3 nuance and critical thibking#trinity santos#frank langdon#ppl complaining it came out if nowhere but like no it didnt#you were just blinded by your hate for santos you refused to see she actually had a point#so like SUCK ITTTT#the pitt
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none of y'all can be normal abt fictional poc i swear
#NBH just saw a stupid twitter thing.. and it reminded me of another thing..#not even rlly selfship related. more so how. ermmm#everyone sees non white charatcers through their americanized lens and refuse to either understand or 100% take into consideration their#cultural background. like that is So important. but yes ok sure think of it as if they were a white american. they just look a little diff#qtalks#pet peeve sorry to bring this up out of no where..... i don't think ppl understand how important culture and location and everything abt#being a person of color is!!!#and of course yada yada nuance n all that but you get what i mean right#hopefully i don't sound hypocritical in the other way.. i'm afraid some ppl think i reduce andre to just his asian american immigrant self#but i don't i swear...#circling back. not to water down this term but you're literally like. white washing them 😭😭😭😭😭😭
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cannot get over lately the realization that while repcomm is widely criticized for being 'anti-jedi', it's WAY kinder and more understanding to all of its force-using characters and the jedi order as an organization than actual anti-jedi fans are
#verp talks#and at this point im just over in the corner eating popcorn#dont worry im sure i'll feel like getting into essay-length fights about this 20 year old book series again soon#its just really funny to see posts going around that are WAAAYYY more critical of jedi than repcomm has EVER been#karen traviss just has this miraculous talent for making absolutely everybody mad while imo being quite reasonable#like everything about jedi in repcomm is NECESSARY if youre going to actually address the ethical issues with the clone army#which is the sort of book that she writes and was hired to write#she really did pull a lot of punches actually#all of repcomm's 'criticism' of the jedi order seems to me like it was unavoidable if you're doing a military realism take on the clone war#it was really quite sympathetic towards the political nuances of the situation and how individual jedi also feel trapped and#how hard it really is to be the first person to stand up and say No We Can't Do This#meanwhile you have some fans just flat out saying that every jedi is a slave owner no nuance do not pass go do not collect $200#how hard it is to be an individual trying to stand up to a system that you know is wrong is a huge theme of repcomm#even kal looks back and is like 'why the hell didnt we all just say no on kamino. we could have all refused.'#'we could have taken all of tipoca city by force if we organized'#and thats the point with the jedi order too#in theory they all could have refused. but it just isnt that easy. it doesn't work that way. organizing individuals against a system is har#and thats not even accounting for the super evil incarnate BBEG who is actively and directly manipulating both sides#so like a major point of repcomm and specifically of bardan's character#is that you cannot wait for everyone else to organize around you#you individually have to say no to things that you know are wrong and YES that is virtually impossible to do but you have to TRY#bardan was INCREDIBLY lucky and fortunate to be in a position that ALLOWED him to walk out and it took him over 2 years to reach that point#anyways im begging people to read repcomm and forget about everything theyve ever heard the fandom say about it#just come at it with an open mind#buckets and buckets and buckets of nuance in this bad boy if you're ready for it#and if you can put aside the Moral Polarization Tumblr Brainrot for a bit#you just have to take the series as it is and not try and sort everything into Bad or Good as you read it
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Art dump for my old b&w practice sketches
Dami has died officially four times (Batman Inc. #8, RSOB #13, Teen Titans (2016) #41, Robin (2021) #1) while on duty, during which he was introduced three potential love interests (Emiko Queen, Djinn, Flatline, in comics) before he reached 13.
These excluding those deaths from elseworld versions, and Mari Grayson (Kingdom Come, fiance), Raven (DCAU, dating), Kami Garcia (Teen Titans & Robin, kissed).
So yea there is a reason I immersed myself with DC fanon ✨
#Didnt add Maps Miyaguchi even if they hold hands all day coz i see them more as cat and dog friendship#Maya Ducard is his sister forever so also nope#Damian wayne#Dc comics#Dc robin#Platonic opposite sex friendships are real and anyone who says otherwise dont know how to treat the other gender as humans imo#or are heavilly projecting their insecurity to the general population imo#i refuse to interprete any romantic nuances when there is none so yep#Fanart
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also like I've listened and watched the I am the one scenes and their reprises and like here is my thing: dan goodman though flawed is clearly a father who tries and yet has his frustrations and exhaustions in doing so. How is that a 2008 musical got this Emotionally Struggling But Trying Father archetype right than its supposed spiritual successor in 2017-
#look there are psrts in deh that i will defend to death such as Evan as a flawed protag and his entire journey and the escapism he found#in Connor and his family#and dare i say requiem is an excellent piece of work like that piece is so fucking underrated#but i cannot for the life of me defend connor's dad and to break in the glove like#for me it was trying to bring a more jaded version of dan goodman through the astute refusal to grieve and the resentment and all that#but the thing is in i am the one and its reprise i can FEEL the fucking love dan goodman had despite everything#i absolutely do not feel the love within connor's dad i'm sorry gjxkskf#but yea when i finally get to watching n2n i feel like most of my analyses posts will be 'HERE IS WHAT DEH TRIED TO DO AND FAILED AT DOING'#despite me actually liking deh for what it is like this is not me being deh hater mode i genuinely do like it BUT YEA#n2n provides a level of nuance in family dynamics that i did not truly see in deh (except in requiem)#for me#anyways#next to normal
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in light of recent discourse
#doctor who#you cannot perfectly map real life politics onto doctor who#yes the optics of this episode are flawed#yes unit has serious issues#but like#this isnt real life#and because it isnt real life we know that unit are the 'good guys' more or less#within the world of doctor who think tank ARE wrong and ARE putting people in danger and DO need shutting down#and seeing unit#the FICTIONAL ORGANISATION which has no proper real world comparison because aliens arent real#as the bad guys here is massively overly simplistic#i do think the messaging is messy#and tbh this episode should have been different if rtd and mctighe wanted to criticise disinfo campaigns like this#but i will defend unit because they have characters i like and they protect the earth and most importantly theyre NOT REAL#and cannot be a complete parallel to any real world org because aliens are also NOT REAL (or at least not on earth)#i think it relates to a fundamental problem in the fandom#where people see the doctor and kate and the brigadier as Bad because they can be morally grey#like no actually people who mean well dont suddenly become bad and awful and unlikeable when they arent perfect#its nuance its always nuance the lack of nuance is killing fandoms and leftism in general#and its killing me that its happening!#we cannot win if we refuse to see beyond a simple binary good and evil#im digressing but god the discourse on this is hitting all the right notes to drive me mad#ive blocked so many people and im not sorry#yeah anyway tldr i will block you for defending space info wars. grow a brain
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"He left unstated that some might survive awhile longer here by eating the bodies of the dead. He also did not mention that he, Dr Harry D. S. Goodsir, had decided that he would not turn cannibal to survive, nor help those who found need to. His dissection instructions at the previous day's muster assembly were his last words on the subject. Yet he would also never cast judgement on the men here at Rescue Camp or on the expedition south who did end up eating human flesh to last a short while longer. If any man on the Franklin Expedition understood that the human body was a mere animal vessel for the soul - and only so much meat once that soul had departed - it was their surviving surgeon and anatomist Dr Harry Goodsir."
#Very intrigued by this today#That's one thing I will say slightly in favour of the book#I think it does often manage to offer at least a tiny bit more nuance about the subject than the show does?#If I remember correctly it's actually Crozier who's one of the first in the book to contemplate the notion of cannibalism#Long before we hear any specific talk of it from Hickey et al#And here we see Goodsir refuse to indulge in it himself but understand why others would do so#There is still morality assigned to it but it often seems more related to the way that the act is done rather than the act itself#(if that makes sense?)#Just some thoughts anyway#The Terror#Rereading The Terror#Harry Goodsir#Random Observations
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thinking about ace, bev, and sandy being friends when they were younger. just. ough.
#idk after melody said bev was friends with sandy my minds going 500 miles an hour#likeeeeeeeeee#thw ideas are there my wheels are turning#sandy i think about you so so much#she cheated on soda and got pregnant then her mom forced her to get an abortion and move#she never should have cheated but god there’s something so tragic about her#i think she’s one of those morally grey characters people refuse to see nuance in#but she has a lot of it and i think it’s good to recognize#anyway#i be yapping#the outsiders broadway#the outsiders#the outsiders musical#beverly jitney bush#bev jitney bush#ace the outsiders#the outsiders ace#sandy the outsiders
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I mean this in the nicest way possible, but why do so many people think that criticizing the Jedi is bad? The Jedi are and were never perfect. They can never be a perfect order who does everything right and never makes mistakes. Frankly, I can write an entire essay on their flaws.
It is okay that they were flawed. That doesn’t mean you can’t root for them. I root for them. I deeply love them and their lore. The Great Jedi Purge was a tragedy that they didn’t deserve. But acting like they’re an untouchable institution is not only just straight up wrong, but also just really boring?? The imperfections of the Order and those involved give the Jedi nuance and make them feel incredibly real and interesting. Things are not black and white in Star Wars. Let yourself feel conflicted about the Jedi and wish for them to succeed anyway. It’s more exciting that way, I promise.
#Star Wars#jedi order#the acolyte#kicking a beehive with this post I know#but seeing so many people refuse to give acolyte a chance because it might be ‘Jedi critical’ is just ????#how do y’all enjoy watching anything genuinely#much less Star Wars as a whole#if you’re not willing to engage in nuance and criticism within a piece of media#that is where all the fun is gang#no one is telling you you can’t love and root for the Jedi at any point#but they 100% without a doubt had some issues
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The reason this fandom hates IDW Optimus isn't because he's a cop (plenty of people are fine with Prowl) or because he's a bastard (most characters in IDW are) but because he commits the crime of being an actual person who's messy, flawed, and makes a shitload of high stakes mistakes fitting for the intense situations and pressure he's put under constantly.
But we can't have Optimus actually react to his situations by lashing out or being unpleasant, no, he has to have the personality of a cardboard cutout of G1 whose only defining personality traits are "dad, funny, nice," and if he ever vents negative emotions it can only ever be #relatable depression or him being sad on his own without ever letting it show during the important parts of the story. If Optimus dares do things like be angry or frustrated or bitter it's just a sign that he's a bastard and LITERALLY the worst Optimus ever. If Optimus ever makes mistakes or does wrong things in the heat of anger/frustration/stress it's because he's just an evil bastard with no redeeming traits.
God forbid Optimus go through an unending gauntlet of war, politics, atrocities, near-complete loneliness, and a seemingly endless cycle of violence for his entire life and come out of it kind of bitter, angry, and tired of dealing with people's shit. He's not allowed to be a realistic person, context doesn't matter, sympathy doesnt matter. IDW Optimus doesn't fulfill the fandom's fantasies of Father Figure or Perfect Cultural Icon or Twinky Fucktoy and since that's the only reason most people care about Optimus in general, the fandom collectively trashes on IDW OP.
All because he can't fit into the overly simplified and childlike double standard the fandom has where if any other character is messy and flawed, that's good writing and interesting and compelling, but if OPTIMUS is messy and flawed, he's Literally The Worst and he's an asshole for no other reason than He Sucks, context be damned
#squiggposting#ive been here too long and seen the same shit too many times#i'm tired of going 'maybe it's just a difference in taste' nope#the issue is literally just double standards and people not reading the text or taking things out of context#and the worst part is if this were just something OP haters did i would get it#after all if you just dont like OP then of course you arent gonna find anything interesting or compelling#but i see this shit from literally other MOP fans who supposedly love M and OP#but their OP takes are shit and i can count the no. of people who write IDW OP on one hand#i kind of thought that at least among other OP fans there would be deeper readings but if anything it's worse#fandom OP content is 50% haha funny dad jokes g1 knockoff OP and 50% yaoi uke twink sad baby OP#so unimaginative. so fucking boring. so immature#to style yourselves some sort of mature TF fans and then viciously reject the One OP who#dared to be written a little darker and more flawed than any others#it's literally just people refusing to give a chance to any nuanced take on OP#they just want him to be There and Nice and for his biggest flaw to be Being Annoying About Equality or something#might delete later might not
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Never been keen on Mooney as a critic, so many of his reviews are just long and rambling essays in disguise, but lately they just seem to be posting their most obvious braindead bait in order to boost engagement. If the film was seriously embarrassed by the Thing's catchphrase you wouldn't hear it at all, it would be cut completely rather than have it so overexposed in-universe that Ben feels like Alan Rickman in Galaxy Quest. Mooney's seen enough media to know exactly what the film is doing here and just posted this to stir shit and get clicks. It's as shameless as it is pathetic.
#fantastic four#the thing#ben grimm#fantastic four first steps#marvel#he's one of many critics i see online now who refuse to have any kid of nuanced view of superhero movies#because their pandering to a specific crowd who hate them
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“Leftist” antisemites will be like, “Hamas didn’t kidnap or murder children, Israel made that up because Jews—I mean, ISRAELIS—are dirty liars. Okay maybe Hamas did do that but it’s okay because they’re freedom fighters and also more Palestinians have died than Israelis so how dare you be upset about dead Israelis it has to be one or the other! And also maybe Hamas DID take hostages but they’re treating them really well. Okay maybe hostages including children died but if they did it was only ever because of IDF air strikes because Jews—I mean, ISRAELIS—are monsters who don’t care about their own people. And yeah if you’re mourning the murders of two Israeli children who were returned home with the body of a woman who wasn’t even their mother YOU’RE the problem because just like all Jews—I mean, ISRAELIS—you only care about your own people.”
And then they’ll post a fun “punch Nazis” meme and continue to feel morally superior.
#the hypocrisy is mind boggling honestly#leftist antisemitism#antisemitism#cw antisemitism#cw death#and btw I am AGAINST the Israeli government’s actions#I also just happen to be able to see some fucking nuance#which a lot of leftists fully refuse to do
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Ik people talk about the tragedy of the Spinjitzu family, but i mostly see it focused on Lloyd and Garmadon which isnt bad, but also you’re sleeping on the tragedy for Wu and the FSM.
FSM -> Was a dragoni child raised in constant war who had to choose between family. Probably was a child soldier himself if we’re being real honest. Chose none of them and ran away. Idk how you come out of that w/o trust issues.
Hell, the trust issues was implied with Nineko and the way he doesn’t tell his sons much. Why would he? To do that he needs to tell them about his past, which means trauma dumping on his kids. He’s emotionally constipated. Can’t say it but does love his sons and the land he created. He fights to defend it and despite his past, longs for a world where he doesn’t have to fight anymore. Longs for peace.
However, his eldest son is hit with a poison he can’t cure (probably due to the overlord’s interference now that i’m looking back on it.) but he does his best to find what he thinks may work. He helps him through his episodes and tells his sons where he thinks the cure may be. But it still ends in disaster.
Wu -> Raised with high expectations. Probably under a lot of stress to keep up. I’m thinking gifted child/burn out. Loved his father, looked up to him but unintentionally copies his father’s unhealthy coping mechanisms because he thinks his father is the best. Doesnt realise his father probably struggled with his own internal issues with trauma. Did therapy exist 1000 years ago? Probably not.
Anyway, he watches his brother fall victim to a poison and blames himself for it (ignoring the fact he was what. 9???) Makes a lot of mistakes (Aspheera) but tries his best to fit into the mould of expectations.
Probably represses a lot of emotions. Anyway, he goes on to watch his brother descend into darkness (watches him go for chen at some point) and fights along side him for ninjago until suddenly he’s fighting alone against his brother after his friends in the elemental alliance slowly leave.
He falls in love, but shes also someone his brother loves. His brother marries her and he tries to move on. He raises Morro until morro leaves.
At this point, he’s lost his brother, father, friends and now a boy he raised. Then he gets a nephew only to find said nephew has to fight his father.
#i see a lot of character bashing in this fandom#but honestly i refuse to bash characters#nuance is fun!#ninjago#ninjago first spinjitzu master#ninjago wu#sensei wu#ninjago garmadon#lord garmadon#lloyd garmadon#ninjago lloyd#lego ninjago#i know i didnt add garmadon and lloyd to the list#but the tags are there because they’re mentioned.
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Funny yet sad how people (Christians) can look at Iroh and Zuko’s hug and call it a prodigal son story when it’s the total opposite. It teaches middle-class teenagers to rebel against “evil dad” to follow their own desires. That’s exactly what got the prodigal son in trouble. lol




“Iroh encourages Zuko to walk his own path rather than care about simple honor.” Anyway here’s the Bible telling us to honor our parents (both of them) and follow God the Father’s path.


#avatar the last airbender#atla#uncle iroh#prince zuko#prodigal son#christianity#daddy issues#yes independent thinking is important#but see how it can be twisted into rebellion against authority#which is a common and tired theme when the authority figure is a strawman without nuance#like the fire lord who the writers refused to give depth to#maybe because they just don’t like obeying fathers
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