#apr 2008

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Bamboozle Left, Irvine, CA // Apr 6th 2008 // Danielle Supola

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Queen – The Show Must Go On

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22 APR 2008 | Chicago Tribune • Fall Out Boy Crib

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they have a point though. you wouldn't need everyone to accommodate you if you just lost weight, but you're too lazy to stick to a healthy diet and exercise. it's that simple. I'd like to see you back up your claims, but you have no proof. you have got to stop lying to yourselves and face the facts

Must I go through this again? Fine. FINE. You guys are working my nerves today. You want to talk about facing the facts? Let's face the fucking facts.

In 2022, the US market cap of the weight loss industry was $75 billion [1, 3]. In 2021, the global market cap of the weight loss industry was estimated at $224.27 billion [2]. 

In 2020, the market shrunk by about 25%, but rebounded and then some since then [1, 3] By 2030, the global weight loss industry is expected to be valued at $405.4 billion [2]. If diets really worked, this industry would fall overnight. 

1. LaRosa, J. March 10, 2022. "U.S. Weight Loss Market Shrinks by 25% in 2020 with Pandemic, but Rebounds in 2021." Market Research Blog. 2. Staff. February 09, 2023. "[Latest] Global Weight Loss and Weight Management Market Size/Share Worth." Facts and Factors Research. 3. LaRosa, J. March 27, 2023. "U.S. Weight Loss Market Partially Recovers from the Pandemic." Market Research Blog.

Over 50 years of research conclusively demonstrates that virtually everyone who intentionally loses weight by manipulating their eating and exercise habits will regain the weight they lost within 3-5 years. And 75% will actually regain more weight than they lost [4].

4. Mann, T., Tomiyama, A.J., Westling, E., Lew, A.M., Samuels, B., Chatman, J. (2007). "Medicare’s Search For Effective Obesity Treatments: Diets Are Not The Answer." The American Psychologist, 62, 220-233. U.S. National Library of Medicine, Apr. 2007.

The annual odds of a fat person attaining a so-called “normal” weight and maintaining that for 5 years is approximately 1 in 1000 [5].

5. Fildes, A., Charlton, J., Rudisill, C., Littlejohns, P., Prevost, A.T., & Gulliford, M.C. (2015). “Probability of an Obese Person Attaining Normal Body Weight: Cohort Study Using Electronic Health Records.” American Journal of Public Health, July 16, 2015: e1–e6.

Doctors became so desperate that they resorted to amputating parts of the digestive tract (bariatric surgery) in the hopes that it might finally result in long-term weight-loss. Except that doesn’t work either. [6] And it turns out it causes death [7],  addiction [8], malnutrition [9], and suicide [7].

6. Magro, Daniéla Oliviera, et al. “Long-Term Weight Regain after Gastric Bypass: A 5-Year Prospective Study - Obesity Surgery.” SpringerLink, 8 Apr. 2008. 7. Omalu, Bennet I, et al. “Death Rates and Causes of Death After Bariatric Surgery for Pennsylvania Residents, 1995 to 2004.” Jama Network, 1 Oct. 2007.  8. King, Wendy C., et al. “Prevalence of Alcohol Use Disorders Before and After Bariatric Surgery.” Jama Network, 20 June 2012.  9. Gletsu-Miller, Nana, and Breanne N. Wright. “Mineral Malnutrition Following Bariatric Surgery.” Advances In Nutrition: An International Review Journal, Sept. 2013.

Evidence suggests that repeatedly losing and gaining weight is linked to cardiovascular disease, stroke, diabetes and altered immune function [10].

10. Tomiyama, A Janet, et al. “Long‐term Effects of Dieting: Is Weight Loss Related to Health?” Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 6 July 2017.

Prescribed weight loss is the leading predictor of eating disorders [11].

11. Patton, GC, et al. “Onset of Adolescent Eating Disorders: Population Based Cohort Study over 3 Years.” BMJ (Clinical Research Ed.), 20 Mar. 1999.

The idea that “obesity” is unhealthy and can cause or exacerbate illnesses is a biased misrepresentation of the scientific literature that is informed more by bigotry than credible science [12]. 

12. Medvedyuk, Stella, et al. “Ideology, Obesity and the Social Determinants of Health: A Critical Analysis of the Obesity and Health Relationship” Taylor & Francis Online, 7 June 2017.

“Obesity” has no proven causative role in the onset of any chronic condition [13, 14] and its appearance may be a protective response to the onset of numerous chronic conditions generated from currently unknown causes [15, 16, 17, 18].

13. Kahn, BB, and JS Flier. “Obesity and Insulin Resistance.” The Journal of Clinical Investigation, Aug. 2000. 14. Cofield, Stacey S, et al. “Use of Causal Language in Observational Studies of Obesity and Nutrition.” Obesity Facts, 3 Dec. 2010.  15. Lavie, Carl J, et al. “Obesity and Cardiovascular Disease: Risk Factor, Paradox, and Impact of Weight Loss.” Journal of the American College of Cardiology, 26 May 2009.  16. Uretsky, Seth, et al. “Obesity Paradox in Patients with Hypertension and Coronary Artery Disease.” The American Journal of Medicine, Oct. 2007.  17. Mullen, John T, et al. “The Obesity Paradox: Body Mass Index and Outcomes in Patients Undergoing Nonbariatric General Surgery.” Annals of Surgery, July 2005. 18. Tseng, Chin-Hsiao. “Obesity Paradox: Differential Effects on Cancer and Noncancer Mortality in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus.” Atherosclerosis, Jan. 2013.

Fatness was associated with only 1/3 the associated deaths that previous research estimated and being “overweight” conferred no increased risk at all, and may even be a protective factor against all-causes mortality relative to lower weight categories [19].

19. Flegal, Katherine M. “The Obesity Wars and the Education of a Researcher: A Personal Account.” Progress in Cardiovascular Diseases, 15 June 2021.

Studies have observed that about 30% of so-called “normal weight” people are “unhealthy” whereas about 50% of so-called “overweight” people are “healthy”. Thus, using the BMI as an indicator of health results in the misclassification of some 75 million people in the United States alone [20]. 

20. Rey-López, JP, et al. “The Prevalence of Metabolically Healthy Obesity: A Systematic Review and Critical Evaluation of the Definitions Used.” Obesity Reviews : An Official Journal of the International Association for the Study of Obesity, 15 Oct. 2014.

While epidemiologists use BMI to calculate national obesity rates (nearly 35% for adults and 18% for kids), the distinctions can be arbitrary. In 1998, the National Institutes of Health lowered the overweight threshold from 27.8 to 25—branding roughly 29 million Americans as fat overnight—to match international guidelines. But critics noted that those guidelines were drafted in part by the International Obesity Task Force, whose two principal funders were companies making weight loss drugs [21].

21. Butler, Kiera. “Why BMI Is a Big Fat Scam.” Mother Jones, 25 Aug. 2014. 

Body size is largely determined by genetics [22].

22. Wardle, J. Carnell, C. Haworth, R. Plomin. “Evidence for a strong genetic influence on childhood adiposity despite the force of the obesogenic environment” American Journal of Clinical Nutrition Vol. 87, No. 2, Pages 398-404, February 2008.

Healthy lifestyle habits are associated with a significant decrease in mortality regardless of baseline body mass index [23].  

23. Matheson, Eric M, et al. “Healthy Lifestyle Habits and Mortality in Overweight and Obese Individuals.” Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine : JABFM, U.S. National Library of Medicine, 25 Feb. 2012.

Weight stigma itself is deadly. Research shows that weight-based discrimination increases risk of death by 60% [24].

24. Sutin, Angela R., et al. “Weight Discrimination and Risk of Mortality .” Association for Psychological Science, 25 Sept. 2015.

Fat stigma in the medical establishment [25] and society at large arguably [26] kills more fat people than fat does [27, 28, 29].

25. Puhl, Rebecca, and Kelly D. Bronwell. “Bias, Discrimination, and Obesity.” Obesity Research, 6 Sept. 2012. 26. Engber, Daniel. “Glutton Intolerance: What If a War on Obesity Only Makes the Problem Worse?” Slate, 5 Oct. 2009.  27. Teachman, B. A., Gapinski, K. D., Brownell, K. D., Rawlins, M., & Jeyaram, S. (2003). Demonstrations of implicit anti-fat bias: The impact of providing causal information and evoking empathy. Health Psychology, 22(1), 68–78. 28. Chastain, Ragen. “So My Doctor Tried to Kill Me.” Dances With Fat, 15 Dec. 2009. 29. Sutin, Angelina R, Yannick Stephan, and Antonio Terraciano. “Weight Discrimination and Risk of Mortality.” Psychological Science, 26 Nov. 2015.

There's my "proof." Where is yours?

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Updated link

Full interview under cut:

Mikey Way & Shaun Simon Expand on Collapser, Young Animal’s Newest Series

By Steve Foxe  |  April 10, 2019 | 12:00pm

Main Art by Ilias Kyriazis

Just a few short hours ago, Paste helped break the welcome news that DC and Gerard Way’s “pop-up” imprint Young Animal will be ending its hiatus by launching a brand-new slate of comics. In addition to a new volume of flagship title Doom Patrol, now titled Doom Patrol: The Weight of Worlds, Young Animal will introduce an original Green Lantern series called Far Sector and a brand-new concept known as Collapser. 

Co-written by former My Chemical Romance bassist Mikey Way and The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys writer Shaun Simon with art by G.I. Joe: First Strike contributor Ilias Kyriazis, Collapser introduces struggling DJ Liam James, whose anxiety-ridden life gets a lot more complicated when he opens a package containing a black hole—which quickly takes up residence in his chest. Collapser stands apart from the wider DC Universe, but Way and Simon have big plans for addressing mental health, early adult melancholy and that whole power/responsibility thing with their cosmically powered protagonist. 

In advance of Collapser’s announcement, Paste chatted with Simon and Way to learn more about their long friendship, tackling mental health via superpowers and why Collapser protagonist Liam sports a pea coat.

Collapser Cover Art by Ilias Kyriazis

Paste: Shaun, you worked with Gerard Way on The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, and Mikey, you obviously spent years growing up, and then making music, with your brother. But how did the two of youcome together for Collapser and how long has the project been in the works?

Mikey Way: It’s crazy, me and Shaun go back a long time. He was in a band called Pencey Prep, that My Chemical Romance shared a practice space with, and we just became really close friends through so many similar interests—we all like the same music, we like the same comics and movies, we have the same points of reference. When Pencey Prep kind of dissolved for a bit, Shaun had come out on the road with us. He was selling merch and helping out and hanging out, and I vividly remember us all trading comic books around. We were in a van at the time. We’d be talking about which comics we were reading, and everyone borrowed our graphic novels. There were no tablets back then and you had to physically bring the issues with you. I remember all of us having really heavy backpacks full of graphic novels and whatnot. But yeah, we’ve known each other a really, really long time.

Paste: And how long has Collapser specifically been in the works?

Way: Two-plus years, I think?. 

Shaun Simon: I think so. Mikey had done an issue of a Batman Halloween special for DC, what was it, 10 years ago, Mikey? 

Way: It was a decade now. A decade ago. Initially, there were a few projects that I was working on with DC and then life just happened. Do you know what I mean? Different things pulled me in different directions. At the time I was really bad at multitasking. I would always write pitches or have series ready to go, and then My Chemical Romance was so consuming, that I honestly—it falls on me, I’m bad at multitasking. So I was like, “I’ll do this when we have a break, I’ll do this when we have a break,” which is what I would say—and then we never really had a break.

Paste: Mikey, It’s pretty common knowledge that your brother pursued a comic career before My Chemical Romance got off the ground. But are you also a lifelong fan of the medium, and is Collapser a story that you needed to tell with or without Young Animal?

Way: Yeah, I think comic books—I mean, it’s how I learned how to read. My brother got into comics at a really early age and so I did I. We would walk to this store that was a couple of blocks away that was an old newsstand, and we would go and buy comics there and eventually, you know, as we got older, comics shops became really important to me and him. They became like our clubhouse. It’s kind of like your home. We played Dungeons & Dragons there on weekends and it became your home away from home really. We met lifelong friends that we still talk to at the original comic shop that we hung out at in Bloomfield, NJ, called Metropolis. We still talk to those guys pretty regularly. But yeah, it was just always there for me. I was always interested. I always kept tabs, even when life got busy and I would fall in and out of following storylines, I would always be aware of what was going on too. I’m almost 39 now so that’s probably 36 years of comic books.

Paste: Getting to the book itself, what can you tell us about Liam James and how he gets the abilities that upend his life as a struggling musician? Are we seeing the birth of a new hero, or is Liam planning to stay pretty far removed from capes and tights?

Way: I think he stays away from the tights. [Laughs] He finds his own costume of sorts.

Simon: He prefers pea coats. 

Way: Yeah that’s the thing. Me and Shaun, we’ve always been pea-coat enthusiasts. I remember like 15, 20 years ago, walking around Willowbrook Mall trying to find one. We were like, “Yo, we want a really good coat!” and me and him, we’re both really skinny, so we’d get a small and it’d be draping on us.

Simon: Yeah, we’d get women’s coats that actually fit. 

Way: We’d have to go in the women’s section, we’d try it on. I remember we’ve always been into pea coats, so the fact is that our hero, the pea coat is kind of his Superman shield. That’s his costume. It’s funny. That’s something from our past that has come up in the story.

Paste: Well, aside from his fashion choices, what can you tell us about where Liam’s life is when the series opens and how he comes to possess these powers?

Way: He’s kind of in a strange spot where he’s like—it’s the second coming of age when you’re done with high school, and there’re some people, they don’t quite know what they want to do yet. 

Simon: They’re in a limbo.

Way: Limbo, yeah. And they’re trying to figure it out. They know what they do like, but they don’t know how to make a living doing it. Like for instance, Liam is very into DJing at his local club that all his friends hang out in. And he knows he loves that, but he doesn’t know what that means necessarily. Until he figures that out, he’s got to have a regular job; he works at a nursing home. So yeah, it’s about that in-between, like Shaun said, it’s kind of like a limbo. He’s in that second coming of age, a second adolescence of sorts where he’s trying to grow up. He’s trying to figure it out. But he is very much struggling to find his footing in the real world. He’s also apprehensive to give up this stuff that, you know, some people would say is childish or it’s like a pipe dream. He doesn’t want to give that stuff up quite yet. So it’s like one foot in the door, kind of dipping his foot in the pool kind of thing—he doesn’t know how to attain his dreams.

Paste: And about the actual event itself that kicks off the book—is there anything you want to tease to readers about how Liam gets his powers, or is that a surprise that they’re going to have to pick up the book to see?

Simon: I think we could we could say that. Liam also suffers from anxiety, which is something that I know a lot of people, Mikey and I, friends and this generation has to deal with. That’s kind of a driving force in his life, that he has to deal with this anxiety, this voice in his head nonstop. And when he DJs, the music kind of calms that voice down. So right in the beginning of this issue, he gets a package from his mom, his mom who he hasn’t seen since he was little, and in the package is a black hole. And the black hole takes up residence in Liam’s chest.

And then the story goes: how does this affect him and what does this mean for him? You become this superhero and does that help you when you have an issue like anxiety, or is that just a distraction from an issue like that? And is the real solution to it something other than what he’s doing at this point?

Paste: I’m glad you brought that up because I wanted to ask—you’ve both worked with mental health issues before, Mikey with My Chemical Romance, Shaun, with books like Neverboy. Was it important for you to bring a theme like that into the pages of a superhero comic?

Simon: That was one of the first things we talked about, like who’s this main character? The music, the kind of Goth music and the New Wave stuff is stuff that Mikey and I grew up with. And also dealing with issues like anxiety and depression and all this kind of stuff, I mean this is all where we came from. So it was no question—how then would someone like this deal with becoming or getting these powers that he’s about to get?

Way: I feel like this generation is very open about their internal struggle, which is cool. I think a lot of our parents, growing up, they were told to repress that kind of thing, or it wasn’t classified what some of it was. Medicine wasn’t there yet, things weren’t diagnosed properly yet. I feel like this generation, they kind of wear it like a badge of honor, which is cool.

Simon: They’re not afraid to get help. 

Way: They’re not afraid. I know some people probably think it’s a bad thing, like a stigma. But I feel like the way the world is evolving, that it’s not seen that way anymore. But yes, it was super-important for us to get that in because, again it’s something me and Shaun and so many people we know struggle with. I see it being brought up in comic books, but this is another opportunity. I can’t remember the comic I saw it brought up, but there was a comic book a couple years ago where one of the characters had some kind of anxiety, but I don’t remember it. But I feel like it’s something that will probably become more commonplace now because it is such a big problem. I don’t know many people without anxiety. I talk to friends and people about it and everyone can kind of relate. 

Paste: Yeah, it’s not an easy era in which to feel relaxed and carefree.

Way: Yeah, you’re plugged in and you’re told to be scared all the time and you’re told all these awful, terrible things. And it’s hard to not take some of it to heart. There’s a degree of shellshock. With the news and world events and tragedies, it’s a lot of process. Especially, I can imagine a young kid having to absorb some of this stuff.

Paste: I do want to talk a little bit more about the plot of the book and the new cast of characters, because based on the art in the first two issues, it seems like Liam’s story is full of new faces, not necessarily familiar DC characters. Can you give us any teasers about the supporting cast or anyone who might be making Liam’s life even harder?

Simon: There is no one from the DC Universe—this is pretty much a self-contained story and universe on its own. However, there will be people from Liam’s own life making appearances, old friends, new friends, stuff that really affects him in very personal ways. 

Way: Initially the allure to kind of scratch the itch of wanting to use some of the beloved characters we all grew up with—the temptation was there, [but] we kind of felt it would be best to go our own route, that this is actually an opportunity to create all our own stuff. We got excited at the idea of getting to mold the whole universe. Kind of almost like the ‘90s Vertigo stuff where nothing else existed around it, that’s kind of the vein we wanted to hit with this.

Paste: And is there anyone from the supporting cast that readers should keep their eye out for? Or would you rather keep that closer to the vest for now?

Simon: I’ve been saying that this dude is a late-night DJ, suffering from anxiety, getting a black hole in his chest—I feel like that might be enough for now. [Laughs]

Paste: Before we go, let’s talk about your artistic collaborator, Ilias Kyriazis. How did Ilias get attached to the book, and what’s it like working with him to bring Collapser to life?

Simon: He’s great. We were looking for artists for a while and a big part of it was finding the right tone because there is comedy in this, there’s drama in this, there’s horror in this. So we needed someone who would kind of tick all those boxes. We were looking for a while and then I believe Ilias got in touch with someone at DC and was just like, “Hey, you know, I’m available to do stuff,” and I had seen his stuff, his Dirk Gently stuff, which I was really drawn to, the art in that book. And then we got an email from one of our editors and it was like, “Hey, this dude is available and he might be great.” And Mikey checked out his stuff and he got on board and he’s been fantastic. 

He brings a whole other level to this whole thing. He makes things look lived in. [Liam’s] apartment has been lived in by people for generations, and that stuff is all important to us. Not so clean and crisp but lived-in and like it’s really happening to this guy, which is important for Liam because he’s such a ground-level character when he starts out.

Way: What I was really taken aback by with Ilias is how fast he is. I have tons of friends in the industry and they tell me stories—I’d be like, Oh, how long does something normally take to draw, etc., etc., and he’d be finished in days and it would be amazing. He’s really fast and really good which is getting to be his currency.

Simon: He’s very excited about this book too, so I feel like that adds to it. And he’s very involved in character design and the design of the world. It’s very good to be working with someone like him who is as invested as you are.

Way: He got all the references, any time we would send him references or a quick description. He was always right there with us where we were, Exactly, that’s exactly what we were thinking, and he got the vibe right away.

Paste: Collapser helps kick off Young Animal’s return this July. Shaun, like you said, a black hole in the chest is a pretty great hook, but are there any final teases you want to give fans to tide them over until this summer?

Simon: Hmm, that’s a good question.

Way: I think what’s cool about this story is it’s kind of like science fiction/horror. Anything I do has a horror element to it—no matter what I try to do it ends up having a horror aspect to it. As I grew up, all I did was read Stephen King. [Laughs] 

Simon: There’re some Twilight Zone elements to it. Stuff like that inspired us. I think overall, the whole process has just been a blast. Mikey and I are really great friends and we know each other so well, and we connect on so many things, getting to work together on something like this has been like we’ve been hanging out every day even though we’re across the country from each other. It’s just been a really great experience. 

Way: It’s a dream come true. The funny thing is, what we’re doing with Collapser, we kind of would do with other things anyway. Whenever you had a story idea, you’d be like, “What do you think?”

Simon: Oh yeah, all the time. 

Way: Or back when I was doing all my pitches, I would send them to you. It’s like a bullshit detector—is this good or does it suck? And we know from the reaction of the other how it was. Getting to finally do that with something that we’re both working on—I don’t know, it seems like a powerful combo.

In advance of Collapser’s announcement, Paste chatted with Simon and Way to learn more about their long friendship, tackling mental health via superpowers and why Collapser protagonist Liam sports a pea coat.

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˖˙ ᰋ ── emilie autumn - sheffield uk (apr 18 2008) ˚*

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Thrinacodus gracia* was a stem-elasmobranch – a cartilaginous fish related to modern sharks and rays – living in what is now Montana, USA during the mid-Carboniferous around 324 million years ago.

* previously known as Thrinacoselache gracia

Although the cartilaginous skeletons of chondrichthyans rarely preserve, the exceptional preservation conditions of the Bear Gulch Limestone fossil deposits mean we do actually have full-body soft tissue impressions of this species. It was about 1m long (3'3") with an unusually slender eel-like body, a pointed snout, no dorsal fins, and an elongated tapering tail.

Preserved gut contents show that Thrinacodus gracia preyed on shrimp-like crustaceans and smaller cartilaginous fish such as Falcatus and Harpagofututor. It would have inhabited a shallow tropical bay environment, and may have had a similar sort of lifestyle to the modern eels it resembled, hiding in crevices or burrowing into sediment and ambushing passing prey.

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References:

Frey, Linda, et al. "The early elasmobranch Phoebodus: phylogenetic relationships, ecomorphology and a new time-scale for shark evolution." Proceedings of the Royal Society B 286.1912 (2019): 20191336. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6790773/pdf/rspb20191336.pdf

Ginter, Michał, and Susan Turner. "The middle Paleozoic selachian genus Thrinacodus." Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 30.6 (2010): 1666-1672. https://doi.org/10.1080/02724634.2010.520785

Grogan, Eileen D., and Richard Lund. "A basal elasmobranch, Thrinacoselache gracia n. gen and sp.,(Thrinacodontidae, new family) from the Bear Gulch Limestone, Serpukhovian of Montana, USA." Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 28.4 (2008): 970-988. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/213771568_A_Basal_Elasmobranch_Thrinacoselache_gracia_n_gen_spThrinacodontidae_New_Family_from_the_Bear_Gulch_Limestone_Serpukhovian_of_Montana_USA

Wikipedia contributors. “Bear Gulch Limestone” Wikipedia, 28 Apr. 2025, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Gulch_Limestone

Wikipedia contributors. “Thrinacodus” Wikipedia, 04 Jan. 2025, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrinacodus

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Monthly Comic Rush (月刊コミックラッシュ) / Jive (ジャイブ) / Apr 2008 issue

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Katerina Belkina (RU, Samara, Apr 16, 1974)

Hieroglyph, 2008 [installation photo] 250 x 250 x 30 cm Edition of 3 plus 2 artist's proofs inspired by Leonardo da Vinci’s “Vitruvian Man”

pictoralist photographer and painter, manipulates her photography

thnx bellsofsaintclements

https://www.belkina.art/artworks/categories/6-hieroglyph-2008/

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mar. 08, 2007 - apr. 29, 2008

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Agora, Cleveland, OH // Apr 22nd 2008 // Em

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Your girl is cheating on you You finna go to jail Now you just lost your job Your house is up for sale Your friend just passed away Before you said goodbye Your son going to war...

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ok here's my timeline of egyptian koopa/king tut Notable Events, mostly to sate my own desire for one

AUG 2000: paper mario is released for the n64, debuting the character tutankoopa

SEPT 2002: adrian barritt & richard horrocks found fuse games (later renamed silverball studios)--not long thereafter, they pitch mario pinball land (aka super mario ball) to nintendo and are greenlit (source)

AUG 2004: mario pinball land launches in japan, followed by an autumn release elsewhere. the boss of its desert world--a pharaoh-themed koopa (video)--goes unnamed in the game. a page (author uncredited) on the official japanese promo guide site for pinball land calls it ボスノコノコ ("boss nokonoko", i.e. "boss koopa"--this follows a similar convention to the jp names for big bully, sunshine's wiggler, petey piranha, & others)

SEPT 2004: a walkthrough on gamefaqs by user qqwref refers to that boss as "tutankoopa"--afaict this is the first time anyone has publicly referred to this character by any name in english!

OCT 2004: a japanese licensed guidebook published by shogakukan (akiharu tsuchida et al) uses the name ファラオノコノコ ("pharaoh nokonoko", thus "pharaoh koopa"). everyone say thank you mariowiki for cataloguing the image. (i verified the book's release date via the final photo on this sale listing)

NOV 2004: nintendo power issue 185 features a mario pinball land guide (author uncredited, probably one of the names on this page) which refers to the boss as "egyptian koopa". note also the "piranha pete" error on the same page & the "spikey" error on the preceding page. the same month, a gamefaqs guide calls the boss "pharoe (sic) koopa troopa"

DEC 2004: (possibly earlier?) the american & australian mario pinball land promo flash pages (author uncredited) feature a(n unpreserved) video titled "king tut", presumably in reference to this boss:

JUL 2006: tutankoopa's mariowiki.com page is updated to add the claim that he is the boss in pinball land

AUG 2006: the first version of mario pinball land's mariowiki page calls the boss "tutankoopa"

some time before MAR 2007: the mario characters guide on gamefaqs by user spacepope4u conflates tutankoopa with the pinball land boss. sadly the version history is not very robust so i can't verify when this was added. references to the "egyptian koopa" name from np are also included:

MAY 2007: the first version of the boss's mariowiki page is created under the name "king tut" (probably taking the name from the site above, albeit without citing it). a revision the following day adds the name "koop tut" as well. around the same time, conflation of "king tut" with tutankoopa is removed from both the tutankoopa page and the pinball land page. the "king tut" name begins to gain traction

FEB 2008: "koop tut" is removed from the mariowiki page

DEC 2009: on the wiki's talk page two users very briefly discuss whether this character should be considered the same as tutankoopa

2012: silverball studios is bought by barnstorm games (source). not really relevant but i thought it was interesting

APR 2015: a "citation needed" template is added to the "king tut" page

NOV 2015: a thread is created on super mario boards to discuss the "king tut" name situation. the name of the wiki page is changed to "egyptian koopa", following the nintendo power name above. that name proliferates on other platforms, such as this beautiful forum thread:

SEPT 2019: a singular japanese deviantart user uploads fanart & refers to this character in the caption as ボスカメック ("boss kamek", thus "boss magikoopa"--notably, this is the jp name for kamella) as far as i can tell, literally nobody else has ever used this name for this character

OCT 2023: i post a video on the subject. lol

NOV 2023: warioware: move it is released: a microgame in 9-volt's stage, "mario pinball land", features an appearance by "egyptian koopa" (video). it continues to go unnamed

JUN 2025: the flash site from 2004 is rediscovered by mariowiki users: the page is renamed back to king tut in accordance with this new information

to recap the names that have been used, in the order of first extant public usage:

boss koopa (ボスノコノコ): comes from the official japanese guide site in 2004. a cursory search suggests that it's the most common name used on the japanese web (ex: pixiv, nintendo wiki, niconico, wikipedia, twitter)

tutankoopa: unofficial conflation of this boss with the paper mario character. earliest known recorded use is in the 2004 gamefaqs guide above. what the boss was called on mariowiki from 2006 to 2007. a variety of other sources have (possibly independently) furthered this conflation (ex: youtube (1, 2, 3), khinsider, gamefaqs (1, 2, forum), lemmy's land)

pharaoh koopa (ファラオノコノコ): comes from the licensed japanese shogakukan guidebook in 2004. appears in some of the "boss koopa" sources above, but only as a parenthetical. used only once in english in a fan guide, probably without referent

egyptian koopa: officially printed in nintendo power in 2004, used as the primary name on mariowiki from 2015 to 2025. widely used on the english web (ex: youtube (1, 2, 3, 4), deviantart, fandom.com, spriters resource, tvtropes)

king tut: featured on the official flash promo site in 2004. the name on mariowiki from 2007 to 2015, and again as of june 2025. can be seen online in some sources from 2015 and earlier (ex. fantendo, giantbomb, blogspot, datacrystal, youtube)

koop tut: unofficial, appeared in the body of the mariowiki page from 2007 to 2008. may have been pulled from a super show episode. not used anywhere else afaict

boss magikoopa (ボスカメック): unofficial, used by a single deviantart user in 2019

[nyaa]

Sunday Best Tokyo, Japan - Apr. 2008 / Growl location unknown - Apr. 2008

[preseriesdean]

for @spnficrecfest day nine: vintage fics 🧡 (published pre-season six)

by CANDLE_BECK

Last Day on Earth 10.8k words, rated E, published july 2009 A list of things to do if you only have one day to live, presented in inconvenient non-list form.

Eight Things You Should Know 7.7k words, rated T, published dec. 2008 Being in love with Dean is the most annoying thing.

Speechless 11.2k words, rated T, published oct. 2008 Dean loses his voice and their rapport is only moderately impaired.

Second Map of the World 13.9k words, rated E, published sep. 2010 They're on a lucky streak, and then Sam does something ill-considered, and the plot thickens.

American Myth 11.5k words, rated M, published nov. 2007 As long as you have a car, you are free, and other lies my country taught me.

by WHEREUPON

Breathing Hard 9k words, rated E, published aug. 2009 The day Dean figures it out.

Love Letter 4.8k words, rated E, published sep. 2009 It's almost fall and Sam hasn't said anything about leaving.

Head On 8.3k words, rated M, published june 2009 And then, just like that, Dean falls.

by SEVENFISTS

Wear Him Like a Habit 2.2k words, rated M, published march 2008 Their first kiss isn't an accident. It's anticipated well in advance, discussed for weeks, argued over, second-guessed.

Someone Else's Blood 6.7k words, rated E, published aug. 2006 The first time, of course, was an accident.

Life As We Know It 13.7k words, rated M, published apr. 2007 On the morning that Sam woke up, Dean ran five red lights on the way to the hospital, his half-empty coffee cup sloshing in the holder.

Just Reach Out 1.9k words, rated E, published apr. 2006 Sam wakes up slowly. The dull hum of noise in the distance resolves into Dean's voice, quietly singing along with the radio. Sam's face is stuck to the leather seat. He's been drooling a little; the corner of his mouth is wet. He moves his hand tentatively, feeling it prickle, heavy with blood. The window's rolled down.

The Art of Manly Hugging 1.6k words, rated E, published aug. 2007 Sometimes, you know, Dean just needs a goddamn hug.

by COYOTESUSPECT

Odysseus, American 10.1k words, rated M, published feb. 2010 Dean finds Peter O'Toole's recording of the Odyssey in a bin marked “Audio" in Casa Grande's only used bookstore. The place smells like cigarette smoke and old books, and it reminds him of Sam.

Divine Intervention by coyotesuspect 3.8k words, rated T, published aug. 2008 "Dude," says Sam. "I think Castiel just hit on me."

by ASTOLAT

Leader of the Pack 14.9k words, rated E, published dec. 2007 Teaching old dogs new tricks.

Inseparable 6.7k words, rated M, published jan. 2008 It was just plain sense, so Dean didn't understand why something about the way Dad said quietly, "It's time you had your own bed," made him feel guilty and confused.

Unasked 15.3k words, rated M, published june 2007 Sam doesn't ask.

Worth The Wait 4.4k words, rated E, published jan. 2008 Sam couldn't remember a time when he didn't want Dean.

Generosity 1.7k words, rated E, published may 2007 John had traded the gun; he'd have traded away more, and he was still feeling the cold dread of the moment when the demon had cocked its head like a pistol and said, "You know, I'm feeling generous today," because if it hadn't taken more, that was only because it figured what was in store was going to be worse.

by MOLLYAMORY

North of Wednesday 3.5k words, rated G, published feb. 2008 Coda to Mystery Spot.

Open Road 2k words, rated T, published may 2010 Sam's old enough to know what's good for him.

by FLESHFLUTTER

whose wings, though tattered, shall carry me home (dean/cas, sam/dean) 2.2k words, rated T, published march 2009 There is a breeze moving across the field. It stirs the long grass in lapping waves like the sea. Castiel runs his fingertips through it and remembers flying.

I'll take my chance on a beautiful stranger 3.9k words, rated M, published june 2007 If Chase were a better friend, he might try to end the game now, before Brendan loses even more money. But if Brendan is a dick at Stanford, it’s nothing compared to how he is on break.

by others

The Last Outpost Of All That Is by gekizetsu 59k words, rated E, published feb. 2008 The world ends while they’re asleep.

a journey of a thousand miles by killabeez 2.3k words, rated T, published aug. 2006 Sam spends a lot of time being afraid, but it's not the things that go bump in the night that scare him the most.

Almost At Home by balefully 24.3k words, rated E, published july 2008 Sam graduates from high school in early June in rural Tennessee. He and Dean start the summer with an all-nighter of celebration; the day after, while both fight hangovers, John calls to assign them their first hunt by themselves.

State of Love and Trust/As I Busted Down the Pretext by cormallen 2.9k words, rated M, published jan. 2010 When you know exactly what your brother's thinking, there are some chances you just don't take.

[heroesriseandfall]

It’s so amusing to me when characters within comics use the fun-trivia-for-fans maps. Like technically that’s a perfectly good canon map. But when Jim Gordon uses it he feels like a tourist to me.

Eliot Brown’s map from Batman: Gotham City Secret Files & Origins #1 (Apr 2000), in Commissioner Loeb’s office in Detective Comics Vol. 2 #25 (Jan 2014)

It’s more funny when it’s shown on a computer though. You’re telling me Oracle and Batman have super highly sophisticated computers but the maps of Gotham on those computers use a numbered legend, instead of anything more technologically efficient and helpful?

Batman: Gotham Knights #55 (Sep 2004) — how is she supposed to find the CCTV if it’s not on the legend? :( lol

Batman Vol. 1 #683 (Jan 2008)

Robin Vol. 2 #178 (Nov 2008) / Titans Vol. 2 #15 (Sep 2009)

Batman Vol. 2 #24 (Dec 2013)

Absurd. And hilarious. This is a very ineffective map for them to quickly identify deep details of the terrain. But it IS an effective way to get me to laugh in the middle of a comic intended to be high stakes and serious. Important mission who? I only know fun background map.