#bc i dont understand it at all

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ok... but like what do you guys think the Founder means when she says "that was Weyoun's last clone" after Garak kills Weyoun 8?

Because like, he's a clone, right? And he's lying right there, it's not like he dematerialized. So you can, well, clone him. That seems to be the entire point of cloning. So like, what is that about?

My theories so far are:

1. There is a predetermined amount of clones, waiting, because they're made in a batch of eight and kept in stasis. That's why they can dispatch them immediately and don't have to wait for them to grow - because 7 is already ready to defrost once 6 is walking about. In this case I suppose she could still make another, but she would have to wait for him to finish maturing and she's just annoyed he won't be done cooking by the time the next season of Keeping Up With The Cardassians is out. Unless:

2. They don't/can't clone from the deceased, but only from some genetic material they already have in a lab somewhere, and that facility was destroyed by the Federation in a war. So they lost the genetic code to Weyoun and can't make another because the dead body lying right there full of genes can't actually be used.

3. Some vague science thing about not being able to clone too many times bc the material degrades overtime? But I don't think that fits - like if the clones are premade or cloned from something they have in a lab, (and they have to he otherwise they wouldn't be able to make 7) - so every clone would be first cloning in that line anyway, and not a clone of a clone.

4. They only clone Vorta 8 times because the number has religious significance or it's some sort of a cultural taboo. The Founders don't seem inclined to mythology or religion, the one taboo they have is one Changeling never hurting another, but the Jem'Hadar are shown having like an ideology or a belief system at least. Perhaps the Founder doesn't think it's worth breaking the taboo or making other Vorta mad about it? (Especially that I think it would be logical for the Vorta to do the cloning, I just don't see a Founder leaving the link for months at a time to make little homunculuses in a vial.) This is a completely blind theory, bc the writers weren't very inrerested in fleshing out the Dominion society at all, so we have close to zero data here.

5. I always thought Vorta are like, 3-D printed, basically - with like sophisticated enough technology that they can just put into a computer "loyalty up 100%, fear of Founders up 89%" and a Vorta comes out of the other side. But it could be that they're just made using in-vitro, they fertilize a Vorta egg cell and then they clone the embryos - making identical twins, basically - and then let them grow in a vat and keep them in statis or a freezer. So it was Weyoun's last clone because they make 8 embryos, and the egg and sperm donors are dead already and the Founder knows this.

6. But it's interesting taking this from a philosophical perspective, because they have memory transfers, so can't they just make a very similar Vorta and put 8's memory in him? Like if their genetic engineering is good enough to make the Vorta in the first place, they can reverse-engineer Weyoun's genes to make one that has his exact looks and specs. Is that not enough? I mean, what makes Weyoun a Weyoun? If 8 was "Weyoun's clone", then who is Weyoun? Weyoun himself doesn't call his progenitors himself, he calls them his progenitors.

7. I personally think this one is most likely - Founder knows the Dominion lost and she is anticipating them not being allowed to run cloning facilities under the Federation. The Dominion picked up faster cloning during the war, to meet up with the demands, so rationally during peacetime they have to roll it back. I wish we got to read the treaty they signed. I mean Federation might demand the Dominion to stop cloning, but that seems overly harsh! Because:

1) I don't think there are Vortas outside of cloning? I mean unless it is in-vitro, but I feel like logically Vortas cannot have sexual functions - if an aesthetic sense is too much of a distraction then being able to he seduced/have offspring would be even worse. So having them stop the cloning would be adjacent to genociding the whole Jem'Hadar and Vorta races.

(this is why I think theory nr 5 is unlikely. Although the possibility might be that the Vorta make sperm/eggs but aren't able to conceive naturally (lack of genitals, only ovarier or testes), or that the little pro-monkeys Vorta come from still exist, and the process is:

little monkey egg + little monkey sperm -> embryo who is genetically enhanced and modified to be infertile and Loyal and whatever -> and that's a Vorta who can then be cloned (but then why does Weyoun speak about the protomonkeys like ancient history?)

2) I don't think the Founders actually do anything by themselves, and the Dominion builds ships, and has trades, and buys/sells weapons and so forth - and it doesn't seem canon-compliant for the Federation to completely wipe out the Dominion, like I think they still would be allow to exist as an union/empire/country/whatever. (Also a Vorta is present at the signing of the treaty, which could imply different things.)

Actually banning producing or collecting weapons is a common clause in peace treaties - which does bring forth an interesting question - are the Jem'Hadar weapons? Like on one hand yeah, pretty much, and on other, they're people and forbiding the production of them is genocide-adjacent.

So like, regardless of what the Federation actually made them do, the Founder assumes they won't be able to clone (because that's what she would do) and therefore mourns Weyoun? Could be true but I'm not 100% convinced.

Anywa this is driving me crazy lmao. I know this was absolutely just a throwaway line to give the audience some closure but like *shakes the writers by the shoulders* WHAT DO YOU MEANNNN LAST CLOONE??

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go loud

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Being someone who read Under The Red Hood and came out with the firm belief that, for Jason, it's not about killing Joker, it's about Jason wanting proof Batman would choose him over the Joker (bc shelia chose the joker). Makes seeing any other media where it's all about just wanting the Joker dead is a teeny bit frustrating. to be honest

Jason could've killed the Joker himself, really, really easily. Jason kidnaps the Joker before the confrontation. I can't open my comic for a reference right now, but it felt like he had the Joker for quite a bit before the confrontation. He had him. He beat him up with a crowbar. He had every single opportunity to kill the Joker himself, but he didn't because that wasn't his goal. Make no mistake, he did plan for the Joker to be dead by the end of it, but do you see what im trying to say here

Edit: If I knew this post was gonna get 1000+ notes I would've tried to word it better or something, this was a rant I made on the way to the grocery store 😭

It's not about making Batman kill either. When Batman says he won't kill, Jason adjusts and goes, 'Let ME kill the Joker or kill me to stop me' instead. The test is all about Batman choosing him. The whole final confrontation is Jason's first death again. The parent, The Joker, and the explosives. It even ends with Jason unable to move as a bomb goes off right next to him again because the parent didn't choose Jason. And instead tried finding an option that'd benefit them and (consequencely) letting the Joker walk, again, lol, lmao <-in agony

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my campaign hiatus has gone on for too long so to cope ive combined my interests at their maximum potency and had some dnd-strawhats thoughts

thoughts in depth under read more... :)!

this is SO self indulgent. their designs literally did not change. but i am a firm believer that dnd doesnt have to be european high fantasy. and also one piece literally IS fantasy. no changes are necessary to fit into dnd. ive already imagined plenty of campaign/oneshot ideas inspired by one piece. so this was basically just an exercise of trying to replicate their canon abilities in dnd 5e as much as possible without totally homebrewing everything. well. aside from luffy. you just cant take away or change his stretching.

LUFFY: (human monk. drunken master subclass. outlander)

the only plain human of the crew to balance out with the fact that he still has rubber powers. obviously a monk. but drunken master subclass specifically because i think the flavor(not the fact that its about being a drunkard) and abilities both fit him really well. this line in the subclass' flavortext especially fits him: "A drunken master often enjoys playing the fool to bring gladness to the despondent or to demonstrate humility to the arrogant, but when battle is joined, the drunken master can be a maddening, masterful foe."

ZORO: (tiefling fighter. samurai subclass. bounty hunter)

a fighter with the samurai subclass is so very incredibly obvious... but i actually had a lot of fun geeking out while comparing the abilities to what he can do in canon; Fighting Spirit, Rapid Strike, and Strength Before Death especially! tiefling is also pretty on the nose for his demon pirate hunter shtick and asura form, but i thought he'd be really human-passing for a tiefling and theorized about his tail getting cut off at some point or another before joining the strawhats. initially wasnt gonna give him a feat, but i gave sanji a feat so i thought itd be unfair to not give him one as well, so sentinel fits the bill pretty well i think!

NAMI: (tabaxi rogue. arcane trickster subclass. criminal)

cat burglar -> full grown literal humanoid cat. this one is INCREDIBLY self indulgent... i love... cats... theres nothing deeper to this and no other reasoning. i took cat burglar and ran with it. can you tell that i love izutsumi dungeon meshi? rogue for the aforementioned burglar-ing as well, and the arcane trickster subclass for when she picks up climatact! the mage hand will be very useful for her pickpocketing. in the future as she levels up with timeskip, i can totally see her multiclassing into wizard as well! weather wizard!

USOPP: (lightfoot halfling artificer. artillerist subclass. urchin)

I HAD SO MUCH FUN THINKING ABOUT HIS CHARACTER SHEET. halfling's Naturally Stealthy ability lets him hide behind his crewmates since theyre (almost) all bigger than him, so its perfect for hiding behind zoro or sanji all the time. Lucky is also perfect for him, and I think Brave fits pretty well too when he puts on the sogeking mask. artillerist artificer is also very fun! tinkering and making magic items for his crew, and i think Eldritch Canon or Arcane Firearm could both be easily reflavored as kabuto or any of his inventions. for emphasizing his sniper-ness, the spell sniper feat was also necessary. i think hes my favorite of all the concepts. big ears and long nose combo is so cute to me.

SANJI: (half-elf monk. drunken master subclass. guild artisan (cook!))

race was mostly based on vibes i wont lie. squints. and that vinsmoke balogna or whatever too ig. but mostly vibes. along with the idea that i think a dwarf zeff raising him would be really funny and cute. monk is also obvious, and same subclass as luffy for mostly the same reasons. though the flavor fits him much less, i think the abilities still fit him perfectly, and this blurb specifically; "Your martial arts technique mixes combat training with the precision of a dancer." i really wanted to give him a different subclass from luffy, but i dislike all the other monk subclasses a lot and i found none of them fit him as well anyways, so to try and give them SOME differences, i gave him the crusher feat.

CHOPPER: (awakened deer(shifter statblock) cleric. life subclass. hermit)

this ones definitely a mouthful im sorry. awakened deer for obvious reasons, but due to magic instead of devil fruit stuff. when i was struggling with his race, i looked a lot at shifter because of his forms, but it occurred to me that itd be super cool if he could shift between all of the different shifter options instead of being stuck with just one to replicate his rumble balls. something like heavy point/guard point=beasthide, horn point/arm point(?maybe?)=longtooth, walk point/jumping point=swiftstride, and brain point=wildhunt. hed definitely need some kind of nerf though to balance out that homebrew... and cleric for class. duh.

ROBIN: (high elf wizard. order of scribes subclass. criminal)

robin is definitely the one i struggled the most with just because of her class. elf came pretty easily- shes very elegant and i think shed look cute with super long ears- and i landed on high elf instead of wood elf for the int-based abilities. i was really on the fence between sorcerer and wizard for her because i knew shed be a full spellcaster, but i didnt feel that any of the subclasses really fit her. i ended up going with wizard for order of the scribes since it focuses on texts and knowing everything. but also because robin with a flying talking sentient book would be crazy cool. it could also be similar to how she spawns mouths and eyes places to talk to or watch people. my "fuck it, why not. this would be rad. its my house" mindset kicked in with her i will admit. also the One with the Word ability made me cackle out loud when i read it. thats the funniest ability ever. anyways, i cant really think of a way to replicate her powers, but maybe we could just reflavor a bunch of spells to be her limbs or clutch; hold person, maximillian's earthen grasp, or evard's black tentacles. thatd probably work okay, and theres a handful of spells to replicate her ability to spawn eyes or mouths. unrelated, but i imagine nico olvia to be a drow. why? her hair is white. i am a simple man!

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i Need there to be smthn a little sinister abt her.

2 colours bc i like the green but the blues the og

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I will never get over the fact that rick riordan's favorite way of uplifting other characters is to tear percy jackson down

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rarepair post ive been mentioning. surprise its PETALPRAWN 😟😟

these next 2 i am a little obsessed w i think theyre soooo funny

very last doodle is lowk inspired by this post ,, go follow bird theyre awesome

the petalprawn fandom is dying !!!! reblog to make it die faster !!!!!

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You know they say "Virginia is for lovers" but, Kyle... I am going to be rough with you. I am going to smack you, I am going to bite you and I am going to AUSSIE OPEN YOUR ASS and put these ostrich leathers HEEL DEEP.

[boarloved-art]

Wei Wuxian should be able to get drunk for once. I think he'd either be singing bawdy drinking songs on the roof of the Jingshi or he'd be getting irrevocably lost no matter where he is. He's found in the bushes behind the mountains like a cryptid, and then he's like "I can't believe you all got lost" (extremely slurred) as if he didn't get embarrassed by something Lan Wangji had said and just somehow disappeared when everyone looked back at him

oh ABSOLUTELY im walking with u and nodding and agreeing, i can see him becoming an absolute menace to keep track of at his drunkest.

anyway heres wonderwall The Gang (Wangxian & their fave group of ducklings) in a city known for its STRONG wine and wuxian being like well. ur all grown now, youre technically not juniors anymore. we have to see whos lasting the longest against this stuff!, smash cut to a suspiciously wei ying-less group of the worlds drunkest cultivators being wrangled through the woods by designated driver hanguang-jun, with at least 2 of them clinging to his robes at all times.

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a different deadly sin

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maybe if these people spend a lick of their time creating for the media they love instead of harassing other people with what they enjoy, they'll be less miserable.

if you're wondering why there's less fan content here over the years.... it's this. this is why.

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matsushima married au from the vault bc i am sickk anyway let me know if ya wanna see more of this au ETA: HES THE #1 FAN OF HER MANGA just fucking realized that fan is missing and the fact the font turned my hashtag to "No." does not help me here

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abigail and sams reactions when you start dating seb!!! no his family do not give a shit lol

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Cover art for A Reign of Shadows which you can find here!

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