#danny doesnt trust them

[meowalpaca6359-blog]

The Justice League finally caught up to this kid who has helped save the world on several occasions. They really just want to make sure the kid is okay and not in over his head. The last time he helped, he had a hole in his stomach and just ran! What if he dies?! (They are not acknowledging/forget that this is a dead child).

They walk up and this child who doesn't flinch in front of literal armies trying to destroy the world is shaking and trying not to cry. They realize he's terrified of them.

He's sobbing, having a panic attack and they don't know why. Finally someone (probably one of the JLD members) suggests to bring in another ghost, Deadman.

They send in Deadman and the kid doesn't really trust him, but isn't as panicked. The two talk and Deadman comes out looking horrified. He tells them what the kid, Phantom (they finally have a name), told him. The GIW. They can tell he's leaving things out, but they can get to that later.

They pick a few members who can keep calm and are good with kids to go in and talk to him with Deadman. The rest get to work on dismantling the GIW.

Danny doesn't completely trust them, thinking this is some elaborate ploy to get more information on other ghosts. He keeps a lot to himself, but if they really do want to help take down the GIW who's he to stop them..... Maybe they really didn't know. Maybe someone might actually help.... He'll have to wait and see.

I have a special place in my heart for fics of the Justice League trying to look into this super powered kid who shows up at random to help, only for him to avoid them like his life depends on it and constantly vanish, and one day, they finally get to talk to him and realize he’s a half ghost who’s completely and utterly terrified of them.

I love Danny who’s scared to his second death of them, especially of being caught by them, but helps them when they need it anyways because he feels like he has to and runs away at the first chance he gets!

And the more he does this, the more he grabs their attention, and he knows this. He knows he’s getting the second last thing he wants, knowing they’d turn him into the G.I.W., but helps anyways. And then he gets caught and is having a panic attack and crying thinking about all the experiments he’d be subjected to soon. All the horrific acts he’d be put through and be unable to stop it because there actually is a point of no return, and giving into the temptation to help them has just brought him to it.

[kermdoeswriting]

Bruce Wayne's a Foster Parent. Also he avoids death a lot so a dead person can usually tell if a humans meant to have died but didn't.

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"Bruce you know I wouldn't ask this of you if I didn't have to but-"

Bruce just sighed from his side of the phone, pinching the bridge of his nose.

Nobody ever really expects to get a phone call nearing 3 am but exceptions had to be made when you were a legal foster parent and also a part-time secret super hero. If it wasn't one thing calling for him it was the other.

On the other side of the phone, Bruce heard the caseworker, Roni, chuckle.

"It's just for 3 nights and half of the day after, but I need you to be prepared for something before I can pass them off to you."

Bruce sat upright now on his bed, attentively listening to her words. Usually the kids didn't really come with any pre-warnings from the Caseworker themselves, letting anything about each Foster kid be said inside of their personal files that got sent along with them.

But when she gave out this information it was usually important. The last time Bruce had gotten a warning like this it was for Jason which was ages ago it feels at this point.

"What is it?"

"The kids are-" Her voice trailed off, like as if she was still searching for the right words to say. "They've been through what I can honestly only describe as the equivalent to a meta-kid trafficking lab"

Bruce shifted as he heard the driving continue on the other side of the phone.

"They're very guarded because of what they went through and they might display.. unusual behavior. More unusual then a meta-kids behavior after such a situation would be, but don't let it fool you! The kids are really sweet beyond being afraid."

Bruce frowns at the descriptions before replying to her, mentally trying to prepare himself for the idea of these kids and what they might have went through.

"I'll make a note of it then. Thank you, Roni"

"No, thank you, Bruce. I really appreciate this last minute placement. We'll be by really soon"

He was left with a click as he removed himself off his bed and threw the covers to the side of him. Alfred would want to know that they would have 2 new guests in the manor, at the very least to greet them and have rooms prepared even if they didn't need to have them prepared further then what they already were.

It was less then 5 minutes later that Bruce found himself, with Alfred, greeting the temporary fosters at the front door. Roni looked tiredly at them as she pushed the kids front and center.

Bruce could relate heavily.

"Hello Danny, Ellie. It's nice to meet you both, I'm Bruce Wayne."

Danny just stared at the mans outstretched hand for a second before he turned to look up at him, a pinched look on his face. Ellie matched his expression, although being a bit more subtle about it as she looked over Bruce as a whole.

Eerily, Bruce felt like his very soul was being judge the longer the kids stared at him. He also felt a sense of familiarity with these two kids the longer this continued.

They seemed detached rather than afraid like their caseworker had explained earlier, more so viewing the world as if they were outside of it rather then in it in any way.

Danny was quick to glare at him after another moment, "You're a fruit-loop, aren't you?"

Ellie broke from her own scanning almost immediately when she heard Danny's comment, cackling beside him before shoving him off with her arm. The action made Bruce smile as he took his arm back and placed it by his side.

Alfred also looked amused between the pair of siblings before turning attention to the task at hand again. Bruce just smiled at his pseudo-fathers usual fondness over children, knowing he was being reminded of his own grandchildren.

"This is Alfred. He's going to be the one to show you over to your rooms for the next few nights." Alfred greeted the kids in the same polite way he usually greeted all guests before he leaned down and extended his hands towards their belongings. He didn't grab their belongings just remained leaning over them before questioning the kids if they would like help to take their stuff to their rooms.

Bruce only really saw it faintly and if it were any other moment he might have ignored it as a sleepless hallucination, but for some reason he noticed the change immediately. The twins eyes go from a darker blue to a flashing bright green.

As if alarmed by the sudden movement towards their belongings.

Danny was quick to catch his own staring as well, eyes flashing back to blue for only a second before reverting back to green. Almost as if to give off some kind of warning.

Ellie noticed his staring immediately and shoved Danny again, this time more forceful for his attention before turning to whisper something to him when she had him back.

Bruce felt his skin crawl before turning away to face their caseworker, not really understanding anything they were saying beyond hearing a few words and feeling their eyes look between each other and his back.

Death Touched was an especially new description, and one that stuck in his head the second he heard it.

Bruce waited until the kids were guided away by Alfred before talking to their caseworker officially and waking her up from her half delirious tired drop-off.

"Hey Roni? Is there any chance we can extend the Fenton kids stay?"

There was something going on here with these kids and he was going to get to the bottom of it. One way or another.

[danis-artss]

Sooo someone decided to make me THINK (terrible decision, really)

And i gotta write this all up a second time cause apparently my wifi is SHIT

So.

1. I ABSOLUTELY support the "cutie marks disappear at death" thing, and sam ABSOLUTELY has to redraw dannys cutie mark each day before school. Having a blank flank as a foal is okay, but it would be VERY obvious if a young stallions cutie mark suddenly up and disappeared ! Lets just hope that dash isnt planning any pranks on danny which involve water :|

And 2. My headcanon is that jack fenton, the moment jazz and danny received their cutie marks, had them added to their hazmat suits (just like how he and maddie would have theirs on their suits). Just like the rest of the suit, dannys cutie mark wouldve just gotten inverted.

But as to how it changed.....

Lil stallion got no clue why she did that, he was to focused on having WINGS

Thank celestia that sam is the one in the trio having the braincell...

Another drawing from september ! Or was it still august ? I srsly got no idea....

I like danny phantom,

I like my little pony

Boom

Have a cute lil pony danny

[bluebird8683]

dc x DP familial hanahaki idea

Tim gets familial hanahaki, for the batfam, but no one notices since he lives alone and it starts off v mild.

Then he runs into Danny who catches him puking petals in costume after patrol and offers support, since he had the same issue, but with his parents… and it didn’t turn out well- he had to get ghostly intervention (Frostbite) to save his life. So he offers Tim a fall back- he comes clean to his family about the situation and if it doesn’t go well, Danny now knows how to remove the flowers without surgery- though the feelings/memories will still be gone. Tim doesnt know why he trusts Danny, but he does, so he spends the night at manor, packs up the last of his things ( just in case ) and goes on patrol with them for the last time before telling them and coming clean. Except they don’t react to the news. Stunned/shocked they stare at Tim as he shares his predicament ( in horror) uncaring. So Tim flees, promises he will get it fixed and runs off to meet with Danny, who gives him a small smile and knows. The bats are unable to cat ch up to Tim before Danny takes him to the Realms to make sure he got everything, leaving only a bouquet covered in blood for his frantic family to find.

[phiniusandjelly]

Please help me find a post T^T

I cant find this one danny phantom prompt where danny is a superman clone (?) or at least assumed to be a superman clone.

Not sure if he’s reincarnated or if it was actually a GIW lab or what

Anyway, when he is saved from the lab he automatically gets thrown into young justice without anybody asking if thats what he actually wants to do. Hes a superman clone, of course he wants to be a hero!

I think with all of his general knowledge of earth and fighting they assumed he knew what professional hero work/the justice league is.

SURPRISE! He definitely doesnt.

He thinks hes been more or less trapped by a superpower group and is being used as a solder.

He keeps his family, his ghost status, as many powers as he can, and all of his questions a secret.

He tries to appeal to his ��captors”

To the adults he is kind, respectful, and always does what hes told. He acts excited about everything, trying to project this childish innocence so they dont suspect him of anything.

With the kids he’s a lot more friendly. Hes too scared to be honest and be himself but he jokes around a lot more, trying to get them to like him, hoping they will report back to the adults that he is worthy of trust.

He hides his injuries, not wanting to look weak or worthless. He doesn’t want to know how they punish soldiers, especially sense they know he is very durable. Plus, getting treatment means getting attention, and he wants to fade away enough to escape without notice.

He doesnt know this world or the powers and technology these people have. He cant just run if they catch him immediately, especially if he tries to get into contact with sam/tucker/his family and puts target on their backs.

He needs information, and to get that, he needs their trust.

So he us breaking his back jumping at every chance he gets to prove he can be trusted enough to earn even the smallest scrap of freedom.

Every dangerous mission. Every training session, every meaningless task.

And nobody notices anything is wrong.

Untill on a mission with young justice where miss martin connects their thoughts so they can best communicate and hear him freaking the fuck out.

I cant remember how it goes from there.

Ive been looking forever please help me find it i dont know what to doooo

[andy-15-07]

Random Joaquin x reader fic au idea

Can you do one where Joaquin is assigned as a bodyguaff to the reader but he doesnt know that the reader is an undercover agent until he catches her going somewhere dangerously quiet cuz hes worried and sees her talking to her handler then he asks about it

Or maybe he thought shes gunna get attacked so he quickly jumps in to save her only to realise its a misunderstanding

Layers of Smoke

PAIRING: Joaquin Torres x Reader 💋

WORD COUNT: 1433 ✍️

REQUESTS: Open! 💌 (send yours my way — I love writing them all!)

🌟 Danny Ramirez Masterlist 🌟

If anyone asked, you’d say you didn’t need a bodyguard. Not that your opinion mattered , the agency made the call when your cover got close to blowing. So now you had Lieutenant Joaquin Torres at your back like a shadow you never asked for.

You didn’t mind him at first. He was easy on the eyes , warm eyes, sharper smile. He knew how to stand three steps behind you in public, sunglasses on, voice quiet in your ear when he checked the perimeter. But you could feel it every time you slipped , every time you needed to not look like you could kill a man with your bare hands.

It was easier when he didn’t talk too much. Which, unfortunately, was never.

“Ma’am,” he said , with that teasing edge that always made you want to smack him , “you need to stay inside tonight.”

You spun your phone on the marble bar top in your kitchen, pretending to check messages. “Says who?”

“Says the guy with the bulletproof vest who gets yelled at if anything happens to you.” He was leaning against the doorframe, arms folded over his broad chest. His holster peeked out under his plain black jacket. “So, me.”

You rolled your eyes. “Relax, Lieutenant. I’m just getting fresh air.”

“In a back alley behind a bar at midnight?” He raised one dark brow. “Real fresh.”

You smirked, pushing off the stool. “Try not to follow me this time, okay? I’ll be ten minutes.”

“Not happening.” He straightened, all business. “Ten minutes where?”

You crossed to the door, slipping your hand into the pocket of your hoodie to check for your burner phone. “Don’t worry about it.”

“Reader,”

“Lock up behind me,” you called over your shoulder. “Or don’t. Up to you.”

You didn’t have to look back to know he was cursing under his breath.

It wasn’t that you didn’t trust Joaquin. You just didn’t trust anyone. Not with this. Not with who you really were , or who you were supposed to be.

You slipped out the service entrance of the building , hood up, sneakers soft on the concrete. The handler said two blocks over. Quiet, no eyes, no listening devices. One dead drop. In and out.

You cut through the alley behind a closed coffee shop. A flickering streetlight cast your shadow long against the brick. You checked your burner again. Three minutes early.

You heard the footsteps before you saw him.

Shit.

Joaquin rounded the corner like a nightmare in tactical boots. His gun was holstered, but the look on his face said he wished it wasn’t.

“What the hell are you doing?” he snapped. His eyes cut over your shoulder like he expected an ambush. “This is not fresh air, mija. You trying to get killed?”

You sighed. “I’m fine. Go home.”

“Not happening.” He stepped closer, dropping his voice. “Who’s meeting you out here? If someone’s threatening you,”

You saw your handler then , dark ball cap pulled low, eyes flicking between you and Joaquin. His posture stiffened, and you knew exactly how bad this looked.

“Joaquin, stand down,”

But he didn’t hear you. He moved so fast you barely registered it , stepping between you and the handler, one arm out, the other going for his gun.

“Get behind me.” His voice was calm , cold, efficient. The soldier. The part of him you almost forgot existed under the warm smiles.

“Lieutenant Torres,” your handler started, voice low.

“Don’t move!” Joaquin barked, pulling his sidearm, eyes narrowing. “You got five seconds to tell me who you are before I put you on the ground.”

You stepped forward, your palm pressing flat to Joaquin’s chest. “Joaquin,”

He didn’t take his eyes off the handler. “Step back, Reader,”

“I’m undercover,” you snapped, louder this time. “He’s my handler. Stand down.”

The words hung there , echoing off brick and metal and the buzz of that shitty streetlight overhead. Joaquin’s jaw twitched. His grip on the gun loosened , just a fraction , as his eyes flicked to you, searching your face like he could find the truth there.

“You’re what?” His voice cracked, just a hair.

You dropped your hand from his chest. “I’m not a civilian, Joaquin. I never was.”

The handler cleared his throat. “Lieutenant Torres, stand down. She’s telling the truth. She’s been deep for two years. This was a need-to-know detail. You didn’t.”

Joaquin’s eyes snapped back to him. “The hell I didn’t. I’m assigned to protect her life,”

“Which you’ve done fine so far,” you cut in, your tone sharp. “So let’s not screw it up now.”

Joaquin lowered the gun , but didn’t holster it. His shoulders heaved under his jacket. “So what, you lied to me?”

You crossed your arms, pulse still pounding. “I didn’t lie. I didn’t tell you. There’s a difference.”

“That’s bullshit.” His voice was low, raw now. “I risk my ass for you every time we walk out that door. I check your windows, your food, your mail. I stand between you and a bullet , and you couldn’t tell me this?”

Your handler gave you a look. Wrap it up. You nodded once, tight.

“I didn’t want you involved,” you said, softer now. “You weren’t supposed to be involved. You were just the cover to make me look weak. Untouchable. Nobody would think the girl with the government babysitter was running her own op.”

Joaquin laughed , but there was no humor in it. “Well, mission accomplished. You fooled me good.”

“Lieutenant,” the handler tried again.

“No.” Joaquin’s eyes never left yours. He stepped in, close enough you felt the heat of him under the leather jacket. “You could’ve been killed tonight. I thought I was stopping an attack. And I was, wasn’t I? You were gonna meet in the open, alone,”

“Because you wouldn’t let me do it any other way!” you snapped back, heat blooming behind your eyes. “You follow me everywhere , you don’t trust me to cross the damn street alone. I had one job to do tonight, and you nearly blew it!”

His hands flexed at his sides , like he didn’t know whether to touch you or shake sense into you. “You think I wouldn’t have helped? You think I wouldn’t have covered you if I knew?”

“I didn’t want you covering me,” you hissed. “I wanted you safe.”

Silence. Heavy. Almost unbearable.

Your handler cleared his throat again. “The drop’s done. I have what I need. I’ll take the back exit.” He jerked his chin at Joaquin. “Clean this up, Lieutenant. And keep her head down.”

When your handler disappeared into the shadows, Joaquin didn’t move. His eyes stayed locked on yours, dark and sharp and hurt in a way that made your ribs squeeze tight.

“You lied to me,” he said again , quieter now.

You stepped in, fingers brushing his knuckles. “I didn’t want you in danger for me. I wanted you to be the normal part of this.”

He huffed out a sharp, humorless laugh. “Normal? Me? This?”

You didn’t know what to say. You pressed your forehead to his chest instead , a silent please you didn’t dare say out loud. For a moment, he didn’t move. Then his hand lifted, settling warm and heavy on the back of your head.

“Next time you have an op,” he murmured, voice low by your ear, “you tell me. You let me stand where I’m supposed to stand. In front of you.”

You pulled back just enough to look up at him. “You’ll blow my cover.”

“Then we’ll figure it out. Together.” His thumb brushed your cheek, rough and gentle all at once. “No more shadows. You got that?”

You nodded , once, tight. “Yeah. Got it.”

He walked you home after , silent but close, his hand brushing yours every time you drifted too far. When you reached your door, he didn’t leave right away.

He leaned in, voice soft but still edged with that iron that said he meant every word. “I’ll protect you from the whole damn world if I have to. But don’t you ever protect me from you again.”

You smiled , small, tired, honest. “Yes, Lieutenant.”

His mouth curved just enough to let you know he forgave you , or that he would. Eventually.

“Good girl,” he murmured, softer than any bulletproof promise, before he stepped inside behind you. Because that’s where he’d always be now , at your six, in your shadow, guarding more than just your life.

Guarding you. All of you.

[the-s1lly-corner]

How would follower!bishops react to a disciple!reader who's very giving and accommodating to them when they first join the cult? As in giving them care packages and showing them around, doing it out of their own free will. The reader knows who each of them are too maybe?

Follower!bishops x kind!disciple!reader

Anon you don't know what you've done because this is exactly how my main cotl OC is I'm about to get silly

Also I could NOT find a decent gif ignore Danny

Notes: reader is GN, you are a disciple of the lamb, you're one of the few people in the cult who knows who the bishops are (something something its been a very long time since theyve all been taken down, passage of time)-- implied that reader is either immortal via a gold skull necklace or other means OR they just keep up with history, follower bishops, more platonic than romantic, crushing if you squint

CWs: none

LESHY

if youre a bit of a pushover he might put some of his chores onto you- will grumble and mutter to himself if you put your foot down though... average youngest sibling activity who had a taste of godhood blah blah hes spoiled

genuinely doesnt know if he feels offended that youre putting so much time aside for him or loving that youre doing your best to make things as comfortable for him as possible- are you doing this for pity or for something else?

will get jealous if you apply the same energy to his siblings, youre his buddy!!

probably thinks hes swaying your faith before you just outright say youre doing all of this out of the kindness of your heart- still teases the lamb about it to stir some drama

HEKET

feels she doesnt need a caretaker or a friend, shes not going to let anyone think that shes gone soft after falling from grace- she takes the longest to warm up to your kindness

either lashes out at you or the lamb due to feeling that youve been assigned as a babysitter to make sure she doesnt do anything- sure, the lamb has no reason to trust her or her siblings to behave themselves in the cult BUT that doesnt make it any less humiliating!

she does get used to your company with time- youre stubborn... talking together is easy because youve taken the time to learn sign language and youre more than happy to teach her

you leave her baskets with various teas and medicines to help soothe her throat on days where it hurts more- due to strain or weather or its simply one of her worst days... shes thankful for your effort but she shows it through guiding you on what works for her and what she likes

KALLAMAR

torn between him expecting you to tend to his every need and him being too nervous to push things and risk punishment from you or the lamb- you are a disciple after all, you can do things other followers arent permitted to do - and... oh youre... spending time with him because you genuinely want to?

he doesnt know what to make of it, too scared to really try anything to risk you leaving him alone

i personally headcanon that hes hard of hearing, probably deaf in one of his ears... he can still hear just barely- he takes you up on any offers to teach him sign to help minimize problems down the line

loooooooves the little care packages you leave for him- treats, goodies, and generally stuff he can use to upkeep himself- its nice still receiving "offerings" after everything!

SHAMURA

you... actually come in handy in helping keep them on track as well as reminding them of things they need to do or things that have been said- things have gotten so much harder since theyve lost their crown so your help is appreciated

one of the things you leave for them is ink and journals so they can keep track of things on their own when youre not around as well as generally granting them a space to put down their own thoughts in a private setting

your kindness makes you easy to talk to, you both do a lot of that... well... actually its mostly you doing most of the talking. shamura does a lot of listening but they prompt you to keep going or tries to find a subject to fill the silence

even if you were sent by the lamb to keep an eye on them theyd understand- if they were in the lambs place and decided to spare them theyd have someone to keep an eye on them... not really that offended about it plus they get a companion!

[kaidatheghostdragon]

Had this idea while replying to a bones prompt, that danny joins the justice league out of desperation or as a protective measure.

I've seen ideas where danny:

1. Doesnt know about the justice league because amity is cut off

2. Thinks the justice league ignores amity because its already got a hero

3. Resents the justice league for ignoring amity

4. Is grateful the justice league never showed up because they'd get overshadowed

5. Doesnt trust the justice league on the principle of being government sanctioned

6. Stright up believes the justice league supports the giw because of their inaction

But all of these hinge on the justice league acting first, instead of danny. What if danny is the one to approach the league? Maybe he wasnt going to at first, because of any of the reasons above, but lets face it, just because the league doesnt know about or is ignoring amity doesnt mean that everyone else is too.

Danny is, for good or ill, extremely fucking powerful. That alone is gonna turn a lot of heads. Gone are the days when danny's parents were the only ones targeting him. Hell, danny would consider narrowly escaping the GIW as simpler times. Put simply, there are a LOT of individuals and organizations that would be interested in danny, including, but not limited to:

- his parents

- vlad

- the observants

- the giw

- a large number of powerful ghosts

- possibly some demons

- random death cults

- dark sorcerers / anyone involved in dark magic

- lex luthor

- amanda waller / cadmus

- ra's al ghul / league of assassins

- court of owls / talons

- anyone involved in meta trafficking

- the reach

- darkseid

- other warmongering aliens

- probably plenty of others

Basically, danny is literally everyone's white whale, and he's sick of it. With all these different parties interested in danny, its kind of surprising that the justice league hasnt caught wind yet. Then again, if all of these organizations are covering their tracks, then thats like a dozen information walls erected around amity park.

(Put this way, crowning danny as the ghost king might be considered a mercy, because at least the threats that are aware that attacking him would bring the wrath of the infinite realms upon them would back off. Probably. At the very least, danny has an army to defend himself.)

Team phantom put together their brain cells and realized that with this many threats, danny's best defense is to make himself as publically visible as possible. Thus, he needs to join the justice league, get himself a (better) support system, and improve his public image. That way, if he disappears (again), someone other than sam, tucker, and jazz will actually notice.

[th3lightyougaveme]

okay hi. for the ten billionth time. still thinking about jontim so im going to link them to the other fears they encountered because. augh:)

i think the spiral and the stranger have the strongest affect on both of them. the fear that the world you know is lying to you and that something isnt right being the ENTIRE REASON jon does the things he did in s2. and obviously on tims end of things he loses both sasha and danny to the stranger and its the entire reason hes at the institute to begin with. onto the actual like. connection part

the spiral can be tied to the lack of trust between the two. jons in s2 with again. the whole stalking thing and outright SAYING he cant trust anyone. and tims in s3 when jon starts to know things. the entire creeping sense that neither of them can trust each other anymore for entirely separate reasons is VERY spiral to me.

the stranger can also be linked back to how tim VERY clearly starts to think worse of jon once his connection to the eye grows stronger. the uncanniness of something wearing your ex friend's face and having it pity you. having it apologize over and over and having it say it doesnt want to lose you. believing so thoroughly that this isnt who they were that something isnt right.

and while it isnt DIRECTLY stated that tim ever encounters the desolation IM counting the explosion as an encounter because of how well it fits. the loss jon has to deal with when he gets out of that coma, the pain of knowing that tim is dead and that he was never forgiven, tims self destructive tendencies leading to his literal end and the destruction of something greater than himself. he destroyed with a cause, sure, but it fits so WELL otherwise.

and of COURSE the eye fits them. obviously it fits everyone. the desire to know more about each other. and the different ways it manifested. tims through concern that he hid behind anger after a while, jons through paranoia and stalking and compulsions. having secrets exposed, brought into the light, and the effect that had on both of them. jon getting a form of relief and it only strengthening tims distaste towards him.

broi have so many thoughts IMSORRY

[n1hilistic-mystic]

Admin here!!

I figured I'd share some 'fun' facts about Laine since all of you seem to really like my little loser boy :3

Tw: abuse in various forms, self-harm, hypersexuality, mentions of conversion therapy, religious trauma, etc etc just some real nasty stuff

- Laine has undiagnosed NPD, BPD, HPD, PTSD, and Autism

- Laine also is trans and gay

- he's very distrustful of therapy since the only therapy he's had has been via fundamentalist religious therapists or conversion therapy

- he really only wants to take over the world so he can have control of his life and nobody else can hurt him

- his older brother forced him to watch gore tapes/snuff films when he was younger and now he forces himself to watch them until he starts having panic attacks. His brother is also the reason he got into heroin.

- he kins Snufkin from the Moomin books/series he just doesnt know what being a kinnie is yet

- on a semi related note he also age regresses, but this is usually triggered by extreme stress or him having a panic attack so those moments are typically filled with him having a full blown meltdown

- his hatred for the Catholic church started when he got scolded in front of the whole congregation for eating an entire thing of communion wafers(he was 4 or 5 at the time)

- When Laine was in 8th grade, he got blackmailed by a highschooler into letting him take nude pictures of his body. The highschooler ended up putting the photos on the junior high's bulletin board for the whole of the school to see, and when Laine tried to speak out about it the highschooler assaulted him. This is why Laine got so upset whenever Danny pinned him to the wall and also why he's so unhygenic.

- if it wasn't obvious Laine does have extreme trust issues

- he's very embarrased about liking Moomin so much because he feels like it ruins the facade he's worked so hard to maintain

Will probably add onto this, but now you know a little more about the boy!!

- his first language is Spanish, specifically Castillian Spanish as his mother is from Spain.

[stuck-in-the-ghost-zone]

hi!!!! kicks my feet id like to see ur wiwi first death thoughts pls

- @suckinitup

MY BELOVED MUTUAL SUCKINITUP HOW ARE YOU. HEAD IN HANDS. I LOVE WILLIAM WISP. FUCK. i think abt him constantly but i almost never write down my thoughts because if i think abt him for too long i make myself sick. like fr. i love him too much. ouuguhghhg going to just straight copy paste this under a cut because it is SO LONG sorry for any typos or sentences that sound weird out of context bc these were originally discord messages:

ohhhhhhh wiwi first death. god . i have so many fucking emotions about wiwi first death. before i get into this im going to say fork found in kitchen to myself because so much of how i view wiwi comes from a VERY SPECIFIC type of dp fanon that it would take me 12 years to actually explain in detail so im gonna say just trust me and understand that william wisp is literally just a fuckign. walmart rebrand of a type of danny characterization i really wish people would just oc-ify (thank you charlie slimecicle for doing this for me)

okayyyyyy okay okay okay. i love there being like. a STARK fucking difference between william before the fall and william after the fall. william before the fall was so much... brighter. in every sense of the word. he looks ALIVE because he is! hes just a . regular fuckign 16 yr old boy. that weird kid in your math class. and yeah he has . suuuuper undiagnosed untreated depression but like its a small rural town thats normal i think. hes got his little group of friends to spend hours with going on cool hikes and reading about the paranormal at the library and sitting in circles talking about conspiracy theories and things. i think UPP is. awesome. i hesitate to get too attached to them in headcanon world just because i dont want bizly to then introduce us to them in s3 and i have to reframe my whole mindset . whatever. i have vague ideas of who they are but the important bit is like. i just think theyre really good friends. and they spend a lot of time together. and william is kind of their defacto leader because... he is the only one of them who actually has truesight. they all believe in ghosts and monsters and stuff but william is the only one who can actually SEE THEM. like. constantly. and thats a lot. and even though they believe him they dont really like.... understand. which kind of makes william feel disconnected from basically everyone around him at all times. i dont think truesight is probably a well-known thing?? so when he was little and started crying to his parents about monsters they thought he just had bad night terrors and then he just................. hes 16 now and still talks about it (less so now, hes learned the horrors of middle- and hihg-school Shame and not to be Super Weird All The Time) so its more like. hmm theres something Wrong here but we dont know what and we dont know how to help. other people (you included ros) have said this better than me but goddddd you knowww the dynamic btwn william and his parents is rough. they love him! so much! and they want to support him! and william loves them too! but they dont GET IT they dont UNDERSTAND and its like. you know what i mean. when you get a mental health diagnosis and suddently everyone is treating you like youre made of glass and nobody really knows what to say around you anymore or whatever. you know what i mean. that.

ANYWAY ALL THIS IS FUCKING. PREAMBLE. GOD. the fall. man. i think there is a STRICT UPP rule of "dont go into the whispering woods alone" and thats the case for the ENTIRETY of their friendship. DONT go into the woods alone. william knows exactly what kind of shit lives in the woods and he knows hes the only one that can reliably see them and he doesnt want anyone to get hurt. MINIMUM of two members for whispering woods investigations. (this is not a town rule or anything. i think the adults of deadwood are aware that its a weird place but it all gets brushed off like . aha everywhere has quirks! and the UPP are like. the conspiracy kids that know the Real Stuff going on. very..... house of anubis is the closest Real Media vibe i can think of rn. UPP pre-fall is like the closest u will get to . scooby doo style monster of the week shenanigans that arent really super serious because theyre safe as they can be about it! bunch of kids doing a ouija board. you know how it is)

uhhhhhhh and then william starts acting weird! i think all of them are on a whispering woods investigation together and theyre all walking together and then william starts lagging behind, staring out at something none of them can see, kind of like. zoned out. tranfixed. and when theyre like "will what do you see?" he shakes his head and snaps out of it like. huh? what? nothing lets keep walking. (it was a wisp btw. obviously) and there are a couple more incidents of him doing this same thing on that one hike until eventually they decide to call it because theyre not finding anything else and tbh william youre kind of freaking us out here. will you be okay? and hes like yeah of course i will guys its nothing i swear. and then they all go home.

and thennnn without telling anyone a couple days later, william goes on a walk in the woods alone. he broke his OWN rule . on that hike he saw wisps and they were just too far away to see clearly off in the distance between the trees but he just Kept Seeing Them and the curiosity was just nagging and nagging away in his brain so much he had to know what they were (thats wisp magic babyyyy you know the mythology around them i dont need to explain that to you) . (and also there is a fair amount of. lack of self preservation because of the previously mentioned untreated unmanaged depression but if i start talking about that in detail i will overshare and also be soooooo emo forreal. know that that is an EXTREMELY important part of this decision but im also going with a little more of the teen mystery angle with this rn. bloody gory mental illness is for after he falls) so he packed his monster investigation backpack and he just. left. didnt even tell his parents he was going he just walked out of the house after school and went into the woods. and he saw the wisps again, but now that he was alone they were Closer and Brighter and they would move whenever he got close and then there was a trail of them ! like they were Leading him somewhere

and i think with some of the monsters he sees he can feel whetehr or not theyre out to hurt him . and the wisps dont feel like that. they feel... well. cold,becaue theyre ghosts, but also warm at the same time? inviting. they dont want to hurt him (they do) they just want to show him something and william "too curious for his own good" wisp wants to know what that thing is! i think he knows the woods really really well because he spends a lot of time out there. so somewhere far away in the back of his mind he kind of knows what theyre leading him toward. but he still jsut Has To Know, so he keeps jogging, keeps hopping over fallen logs and around low branches and theres always a little blue flame juuuuust out of reach so he keeps going . and then he gets to the cliff. its like a full on. burst out of the trees there is a wisp juuuust on the edge where the ground falls away. i think he trips on a root and falls flat on his stomach before he can completely just run off. it gives him a second to catch his breath, to look out and See where he is. for things to kind of come crashing down on him. if he hadnt tripped he wouldve run right off the edge and fallen and it was close enough of a near death experience for it to scare him. but the wisp is still there, and its the biggest brightest one hes seen yet and if he looks around he would see it looks like the entire forest behind him is glowing with tiny blue fires like theyre all watching him. i dont think hes really. thinking coherent thoughts at this point he just kind of. realizes now that hes out here he doesnt really want to go home. he doesnt want to go back to school, doesnt want to eat lunch in the bathroom and think about his brothers empty bedroom across the hall and have his parents look at him with such a weird mix of love and awkward pity and he knows his friends say they believe him but he can see it in their eyes sometimes that the things he says scares them and he really just has been a freak his whole life.... and he realizes as hes thinking all of this he's gotten to his feet and walked toward the wisp on the edge of the cliff. and hes just standing there feet on the very edge staring at it. its floated away now, hanging over the drop at eye level with him but its probably still close enough he could just... reach out.... and try to grab it...... and his feet slip on the rocks and JUST as he closes his hand around the wisp it almost feels like something pushes him (probably just the wind.. right?) and he falls.

he does Not remember hitting the bottom thank god. he remembers falling, and falling, and in the fall he realized he was still holding the wisp he grabbed in his hand and so he pulled it close to his chest as he fell and it almost felt like it was burning him but it was *cold* and .. then he woke up! he woke up in a misty foggy field in what looked to be the middle of the night but if he looks at the sky too long it looks *weird* its just black and empty and there are weird bluish swirls in it that could be clouds but look different, and there are trees in the distance but whenever he tries to walk toward them it feels like theyre moving the same distance away so it never really feels like hes getting anywhere.. and he trips over what he thinks is a rock and lands in the foggy grass and looks behind him and realizes *oh my god thats a gravestone-* and then he wakes up again, for real this time !!! (<< that scene is like. thats His Island. thats his lair or whatever. remember when mal first took him to the spirit world and they were in the graveyard and mal told him that was his. im going with dp style spirit world lairs and this one is williams. hear me out)

aaand. when he wakes up for real. he is at. the bottom of the cliff. EVERYTHING hurts. everything hurts so fucking badly but also everything is like... weirdly numb? and he doesnt really remember that weird dream with the fog and the trees and the grave its all kind of fading as he wakes up more and more and ... his hands are empty hes not holding the wisp anymore. he doesnt know how much time has passed. was any of that even real or did he just have some kind of nervous breakdown and jump off a fuckign cliff? i think he fucking sits there and cries about it for a loooooong time. and everythihng hurts but its gonna start getting dark soon he NEEDS to go home before it gets dark, his parents will start to worry about him and he doesnt want to do that to them. also he might need to get to a hospital or something but hey! he can move! he can stand up and walk! so he must not have any broken bones or anything he just. is bruised and sore probably. and so he. sooooo slowly. so slowly. makes his way back up the cliff (theres. a path. he doesnt have to climb i promise) and back home. alone. no wisps or anything, just william alone with his thoughts. which is . goddd its bad. thats why it takes him so long. ohhh my god what am i even gonna fucking say when i get there. hi mom and dad sorry i needed to clear my head and follow some weird ghosts and in the process i tried to kill myself and it didnt work? fuck?

so by the time he gets home... huh. the door is locked thats weird. its not fully dark yet and his parents know he stays out late with his friends a lot of the time so they usually leave the door unlocked for him. so he knocks. and his mom answers the door and takes one look at him and just fucking breaks down into tears. and so his dad comes in from around the corner to see whats going on and he starts crying too. and william is so. freaked out by this. guys whats wrong what happened. turns out he has been missing for. two weeks. nobody knew where he was or what happened and the woods are alive and weird and anyone who went out in a search part just ended up getting lost themselves and came back like an hour later with nothing. they thought he was dead. (which. i mean. he was. but like. not in the way they thought). so theres this big huge emotional family group hug or whatever with william all dirty with leaves and twigs in his hair and torn clothes and mud on his hands and feet and his mom and dad are just like oh thank god youre alive thank god youre home what happened to you and... man. euguhhhhahghhhh. emo. sorry. god. head in hands .

i thiiink. he kind of ends up telling them what happened. he leaves out the wisps though. his watered down version is.. i just needed to clear my head, i went out into the woods, i got lost, i tripped and fell. (remember how william downplays it for dakota when he asks. i tripped and fell) he doesnt tell them about the wisps but like. that almost makes it worse becuase they KNOW about his bad mental health even if they dont fully understand it and.... this version makes it sound suspiciously way more like it was just a direct suicide attempt. which. william IMMEDIATELY regrets as soon as it leaves his mouth. but thats his story now. so everything kind of... goes back to normal? normal ish??? as nrmal as they can i fucking guess?? for a couple days and he has to go back to school and. god it fucking sucks. gossip . you know how it is. hey that kid tried to kill himself and got lost in the woods for two weeks what a weirdo he freaks everyone out . that kind of stuff. so hes more isolated than EVER and even his friends wont really talk to him although theyre more... sad. than anything else. they just dont really know what to say. theyre teenagers. idk. uhhhhhh then one day he reallyreallly REALLY doesnt want to be somewhere so he hides in the bathroom and.. doesnt realize it at first but he goes invisible. and its not until a couple other kids come in and leave and dont acknowledge him at all that he notices something is weird (he feels bone chillignly cold but like. its a shitty old school building in the very beginnings of winter of course its gonna be cold) and he looks in the mirror and realizes he cant see himself. and after that more and more of his powers kind of. slowly manifest? and he is VERY bad at controlling them and he plans not to tell anyone at first (hes already enough of a freak) until one day his dad finds him like. halfway through the floor in his bedroom and its this . kind of funny ridicuous but also really scary moment. and william has a realization at some point like. oh. i think i *died*. and auughhghg. i think thats all i ahve for now. but . man. when i tell you i think about this soo fucking much man.

[starry-bi-sky]

the moment im able, Danny and Bruce are going to be annoying each other On Purpose SO much in WTNS. I have an arsenal of non-bat related nicknames for Bruce on standby (that is steadily collecting more as i come across them) and ready for my disposal

Danny: Batman. Batman. Bruce: oh we’re going full name now. Danny: Batman. Bruce: hm. Danny: lean down for me Bruce, doing just that indulgently: hm? Danny, grabbing him by the shirt collar: dont start throwing stones in glass houses, batboy [Bruce was teasing him about wearing flannels]

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Danny: mind you, i have unmitigated access to your closet Bruce: ah. i see. of course

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Danny: sir, you are dressed as a bat, choose your next words carefully Bruce: 🤨 Danny: trust me i have nothing but respect for your commitment to the bit, but Danny: you are still dressed as a bat Danny: and i am not above taking potshots

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Danny makes a point to thwap Bruce on the ankles with his cane when he's being annoying/a dumbass/because it's funny. Sometimes it lands, sometimes Bruce hops out of the way before that. Bruce hopping away leads to Danny continuing to try and thwap him until he succeeds

Playfighting is also a thing. And by playfighting i mean Danny is trying to bop Bruce, and Bruce is blocking him via batting his hands away. Danny will not stop until he's successfully poked Bruce in the ribs

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bruce:…what are you doing danny, faux-punching bruce in the side. and by that i mean he is poking him the side/arm with his fists and quietly making "pow-pow-pow" noises. it doesnt even do any damage he's pr much just tapping him: danny, still faux-hitting him: bothering you danny, pausing: is it working bruce, trying not to smile:…no danny: damn danny: [goes back to faux-hitting him]

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Danny: [playfully putting his hands up defensively] Bruce: thats not how you do that Danny: you think im going for accuracy? [one-sided slap fight ensues]

[cat-autism-wizard]

five times danny's english class learned that he was phantom (and one time he had to reveal it)

3 - Mr. Lancer

it was after a big ghost attack at casper high. it was sadly during mr. lancer's lesson. he didnt know what those poor kids would do in the exams if their educations kept on getting interrupted by the ghost attacks. but right now they had bigger problems to dealt with, like running for their lives.

lancer made sure everyone in his class made it out of the class and making sure everyone was out of school. it was a procedure he had to use so much that everyone knew what to do. of course it didnt mean he doesnt follow it. he still makes sure he follows it line by line. and no matter how many ghosts attacked the school, kids were always terrified which made it harder to count them. lancer didnt blame the kids of course. he was feeling bad for them if anything else. those kids were just teenagers and they shouldnt live through this again and again.

lancer tried his best to keep the terrified ones calm and lead everyone to outside. it was the hunter ghost attacking and phantom was already fighting him. no matter what those lousy ghost hunters say lancer trusted phantom to protect them. he saw him saving his kids countless of times.

after everyone was outside he counted his students. only one was missing. daniel fenton. when he spotted one of his friends he decided to ask her.

"ms. manson, i couldnt see mr. fenton do you know where he is?" just for a tiny second lancer saw a little panic flash in the girl's eyes.

"uhh yeah he is with tucker." sam blurted out. lancer could tell she was lying. he was a teacher for almost 15 years, he could tell when a student lied to him.

"great then you wouldnt mind accompanying me see mr. foley and mr. fenton right?" sam cringed to herself probably scolding herself for her bad lie.

"sure" she said with a fake smile.

they walked towards tucker as he was dealing with his phone. no fenton to be seen.

"mr. foley have you seen mr. fenton anywhere?" lancer talked before sam ever could.

"uh yeah he was with sam." tucker said without looking up his phone. only when he heard sam cleaning her throat tucker decided to look up. sam glared at tucker.

"uh did i say sam i meant to say pam" tucker tried to play it off.

"we dont have a 'pam' in our class mr. foley." lancer sighed.

"if you kids didnt know you couldve just said so. he might still be inside im gonna check before he gets hurt." lancer said as he start to head back inside. when both sam and tucker tried to stop him or run inside before him but lancer stopped both of them.

"ms. manson, mr. foley i understand that youre worried about your friend but if you step inside now, you will be suspended for a week." did they really care? no, but they were both smart enough to know that could damage their school record and neither of them wanted that.

not getting a reaction, lancer went back inside to look for danny. he searched almost everywhere but he was nowhere. the only place he didnt check was the hall of his class which had a fight going on. lancer carefully headed to his classroom. then he heard phantom saying something about 'souping the ghost' which meant it was probably safe for him to go there and thats what he did.

he expected to see phantom, yes but what he didnt expect to see was phantom looking so worn out. he looked like he was about to pass out. as lancer was about to thank him and ask him if hes alright glowing rings appeared around phantom's waist. then he transformed into danny fenton.

what. lancer couldnt believe his eyes. he was terrified. he was terrified of the fact that wes was right. what he was more terrified was that danny fenton, a 14 (soon to be 15) year-old kid was fighting and protect them all from the ghosts while trying to pursue his education as well. lancer wasnt easy on him either since he would always be late or fall asleep in the class. now he knew why.

danny was barely staying on his feet. he was tried. before he could fall lancer caught him. a fear set in danny. as lancer realized that, he started to scold him.

"so you were here. youre so lucky that phantom was around mr. fenton. you cannot wander around the school when theres an attack. if i catch you next time like this there will be consequences." with that danny was relieved. he was stressed about the next time because there will be a next time but at least lancer didnt know his identity right?

lancer forced fenton to stay in the infirmary for a few classes. danny whined at first but he was fast asleep as he relaxed when lancer made sure he wasnt going to be called absent in the attendance.

after that day lancer tried to give danny slightly more time on his works and when in detention, he gave him somewhat of an extra class knowing he fell asleep in those lessons.

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[joker-daughter]

I've had to accept that as a Tom fan, he will always attract chaos and controversy without even trying to, lol.

He reminds me of Sisyphus rolling a boulder up that hill. His path for respect will always be a struggle, especially now "Hollywood" wants to knock him down a peg. He has to build back trust again for audiences and just consistently star in great projects.(I was going to write good projects at first but I think because he is so famous, his good is always judged or ignored so he has to be in great projects.)

I hope in 5 years the tables will turn, but my fear for him is that he doesn't really play the hollywood game, if that makes sense. He doesn't mingle with her his peers of goes to fashion shows. Outside of work, he's a homebody and reclusive unless you meet him playing golf. I hate to compare, but Glen and Timothee know how to play the hollywood game because they genuinely want that fame and godlike hold on audiences and peers. Regardless of what happens in their personal lives, the work will always come through. Glen has like a bunch of films coming out this year and the next, same as Timothee. Timothee didn't win the oscar, but as someone who was a casual observer in his campaign, I realised want he was trying to di with those antics. He was divorcing himself from the artsy fanbase and trying to build up his dudebro fanbase. That's why he went on game day and theo von and other platforms that appeal to guys mainly. He was smart, and it's worked in his favour now. His next film he will win that oscar. For Tom, I don't want him to win an oscar per se, but I just wmat him to be in movies of quality and aim for a Tom Cruise like career, but I fear Glen has that in the bag.

Tom has projects in developments without directors attached, which I still find so silly. This mysterious pr route his team is leaning in on is not helping him at all. He needs to be more earnest and try harder. Hes in close proximity to great directors because of Z, him having agents and industry friends, yet he doesn't want to pitch any role to them or take an supporting role, which I find silly, because it feels like he doesn't want to come across desperate. I'm sorry, but he needs to let this passive approach go and embrace the American egoness of wanting to be the greatest, lol😭. The Rock had to pitch a role to Martin Scorsese and reach out to Benny Safdie to change his trajectory, and from a financial point of view, he doesn't need to, he's achieved alot. But he wants to.

Tom's team should want him to work with Tarantino, PTA, Denis Villeneuve, Edward Berger, James Mangold, Joseph Kosinski, Julia Ducournau, Barry Kenkins, Jordan Peele, Danny Boyle, Alex Garland, Trey Shult....I could go on.

He can make money doing anything if he wants to. His attachment o bug franchises doesbt make sense causr he doesnt need them. One of the reasons why he created Bero was because he didn't want to be a shill for any product he wasn't 100% invested in and I agree with that however, outside of the MCU and Uncharted, what's stopping you doing great roles in mid budget projects. Ppl say his personal life, and I disagree with that cause when it comes to his lad's golf trips, he's putting the time and energy to go to that. He's not stupid, and he has a great team, Austin Bulter shares an agent. I understand wanting to be a reclusive artist, but like Sade and DDL, in order for you to be reclusive and deserve that role, you have to be pumping out great films/products.

It's not too late he's 28, but right now, he's fragile cause you got a lot of younger and older actors who are working a lot more than Tom just to get his place in the pecking order. He lost his grit when he gained his lifestyle. When it came to Spiderman, he was working nonstop, and it paid off.

Forgive my rambling, but this whole week has been a lot as a fan.Although I hate how much he gets hate, I can't lie and say he's innocent to this. He has to fight against this. Otherwise, it's over him. Like, I don't think ppl will care that much if he goes away cause they can replace him. Nolan gave him a chance cause, honestly, I don't know where he could go from what happened last year.

End of rant.

thoughts?

[phiniusandjelly]

Fenton tech + Hex tech ( Arcane Hexcore ) HEAR ME OUT

I absolutely need danny phantom to make some off the wall inventions, specifically weapons, and for all of it to be run on condensed ectoplasm.

Its like Vals huntress suit, but more handheld weapons, and all one needs to do is pop in this little chunk of ectoplasm and BOOM! now it doesn’t obey the laws of physics! Lets fuck up some ghosts!

He mostly makes it so his friends can be safer fighting ghosts. It also works as a general clean energy source and powers most of the fenton house.

Its pretty stable (not really, but it usually listens to him if its his own ectoplasm) and he doesn’t really plan on other people getting their hands on it because he doesnt trust people not to use it for evil (or for it not to blow up in everyones faces)

Its found out eventually, and people start wanting ones of there own.

But danny doesnt want people to harvest ghosts (specifically him) as a powersource and DEFINITELY doesnt want more people making portals to the ghost zone.

So when people start looking into his weapons he lies and says that he found them, and that he was trying to find a way for non magic people to use magic.

This gets a TON of attention. Some good, most bad. And lots of people want to monitor his work to make sure he doesnt accidentally end the world.

People are lecturing him about “human limitations” and hubris and “going too far”

and he just has to be like “look at me! Totally mortal human messing with powers beyond my comprehension! Wow i hope this doesnt go wrong!!! :)”

His friends are laughing at him. His parents think its incredible. And most people are trying to get him to stop.

People think hes SO LUCKY nothing horrible has happened yet

Them: “someone could have died!”

Danny, thinking of the portal incident: “…”

Danny: “oh noooo that would suuuuuckkkk…Wow i guess im just soooooo luckyyyyy”

Not sure where to go with this but i thought having danny phantom crossover weapons be similar to Arcane would be awesome.

I think people realizing that it has something to do with death and freaking out about it would be funny.

I ALSO think that people seeing danny accidentally reveal some ghost powers and being like “no! Its already infected him!! How do we save him! He might be too far gone! T^T” would be so funny.

This also applies to the fact that ghosts are visible and sometimes tangable in danny phantom. If people think “fenton tech” did that then people would FREAK

I need someone smarter than me to try to continue this because I have no idea what to do next

[hoodienanami]

"You're very damaged- which is a very good thing."

another clip from Danny Boyle's Pistol that i wanted to share, again of Sangster and Wallace as Malcolm McLaren and Steve Jones because they really are the stand outs of the series

im as fascinated by this scene as i am with the last one i highlighted, the implications for Jones and McLaren's relationship here are pretty striking. McLaren plays into the role of father figure that Jones has begun to view him as and the confused obedience Jones shows in response is very interesting. i like how Jones flinches when McLaren tries to put the guitar on him, its such a great little detail

if youre wondering what the 'real son' comment towards Joe Corre is about, it doesnt have anything to do with Jones im sorry to report. a line or two before i started the clip McLaren calls Ben Westwood 'other man's child' due to Ben not being fathered by him. tho ofc you can easily read into that exchange happening right in front of Jones

also, this is the only time we ever see the New York Dolls in the series. which is very disappointing bc i quite like the New York Dolls. but seeing them pop up here serves an interesting purpose, a reminder to the audience of where exactly trusting McLaren is going to lead for Jones