#dc judge

[wanderingmind867]

I feel like Two-Face having a third split personality makes some amount of sense, although I also get why it isn't explored that often. I mean… Two-Face is known for Twos. His gimmick is duality. Having a character like The Judge ruins that gimmick. But at the very least, I do like when media with Two-Face tries to add elements of that third personality into their stories.

For an example of that, I love pointing at the Telltale Series games. When you get the choice to save Catwoman from a sneak attack by some crooks or save Harvey from a giant spotlight crashing onto his skull, the game then offers a branching path for Harvey. Both paths end the same way (because he'd already been injected with a serum by the children of arkham that lowers impulse control and makes people more prone to strong emotional responses), but they develop his character in significantly different ways. I suppose I should be worried about spoiling this for people, but I personally like spoilers, so i'm not that bothered.

If Batman saves Harvey, then the drug still works it's magic and makes him a paranoid wreck, obsessed with consolidating power around himself. But it also makes him less bitter towards Batman. His darker side begins to idolize the vigilante justice aspect of Batman, and I believe he even creates a special police force modeled after Batman (I think). In essence, he becomes a fanatic obsessed with the strength of the bat. Elements of The Judge can be seen in how his paranoia makes him try to become a dictator.

So Two-Face without the scars is (if i remember correctly) a lighter shade of evil. He hasn't got the physical trauma to deal with, he's only got the mental stuff. And it's a little easier for him to manage one without the other. He still looks the same, so it's not like he's gotta be scared of being judged for his looks. So that might honestly help his sanity a tiny bit. I remember the scene where you see him in his office before his mayoral portrait is painted. Without the scars, he's paranoid and messing with his coin, but he's not angry and violent. He's more just paranoid and lashing out.

Meanwhile, a Batman who lets Harvey's skin burn and scar over ends up creating the Two-Face we all know. This man spends half the game hiding behind bandages, or phantom of the opera style face masks. He resents Batman, since Batman saved Catwoman and left him to burn! He can't even have a normal mayoral portrait taken, because one side of his face is red and covered in welts and scars! This Two-Face is so deranged that he can't even be reasoned with. Which kind of makes sense. I imagine it's hard to think when your skin is always pained and your mind is full of a drugged substance.

In either case, Harvey Dent gets put through the ringer. He gets drugged. He thinks his girlfriend cheated on him with his best friend. He potentially mauls a criminal to death with his bare hands. He has a psychotic break. But there's two different flavours of psychotic break. There's the version where he's obsessed with bringing batman style justice to the city, and then there's the version where he hates Batman and blames him for Gotham becoming a hellhole that he has to fix.

If you read into all this, it really feels like Harvey develops a different split personality depending on what happens to him. If he isn't scarred, he gains a split personality in the form of "The Judge", an authoritarian obsessed with law and order (at all costs). And if he is scarred, then he gains a split personality in the form of "Two-Face", an angry and violent man who thinks he has to burn the city to the ground to make it better. Both his negative personalities showcase his obsession with justice and order, but they showcase it in slightly different ways. It's pretty cool.

[evelynendar]

I just think he should get a redesign

Don’t get me wrong, is design in BTAS is aight, nice and simple

But also hear me out

Court of owls Judge

Harvey and Two have no idea

Think about it…

[two-many-faces]

Hahaha what the fuck.

Why the fuck do they have tumblr.

YOU FOLLOWED THEM BACK?

IT’S COMPLICATED-

[mysteriousdoll]

Not only did Jonathan die in my verse, but they died to the Judge.

Don’t worry some weird deer goddess lady revived them like a year later.

[kuervosa]

Rumour has it that you and Two Face got something going on? How’s that like exactly? Genuinely curious cause I’m under the impression they’re some sort of system?

im not toooo sure how much they want me to say about them, they're out rn so i can't ask, but i can tell u some things

i can tell you that yes, two-face is a system, they have three alters, harvey, twos, and judge (if you want to know more about said alters they got a blog too, i just dont wanna disclose anything they dont want public)

and honestly? i just got pretty lucky with my situation. i love all three of them, and they love me back. i know a lot of relationships with systems can tend to be complicated, im sure they can vouch for that based on things ive heard, but honestly, i just got lucky. it took a lot for us to get to this point, though, i won't deny that

but to put it simply, it's kinda just like dating three people. but also they're in the same body, lmao. i think this is considered polyamory? i'll talk to them later idk

[noodles-and-tea]

Ok but does adult Dick still get star eyes when he sees Superman, as his hero or does he keep his fangirling low key now that he works along side him, as Nightwing?

(I love your art OP thank you for sharing your art with us!)

He keeps it professional on the field but the second superman is out of sight he reverts to fangirling.

[indelibleills]

Nightwing has been bringing red robin with him for the weekly welfare check on Jason. It’s going SO well.

[brucedefender4eva]

To a new Justice League recruit

Batman: That’s so interesting

Batman: Also stupid as hell

Batman: But so so damn interesting

Batman: …

Batman: Have you been tested for autism?

Batman: I’m only asking because I also have autism and you remind me of myself in uncomfortable ways

Batman: …

Batman: Let’s get you tested

[livinghalfway]

Lex Luthor's personal assistant is Tim's clone?

As much as Danny hated his job he made sure to be the best of the best at it. He had to be; one misstep and he could be hauled out of here. That would make investigating Luthor's possible involvement with the GIW much harder.

Danny unfortunately wouldn't be able to look around the building today as Luthor has a meeting in Gotham with Bruce Wayne and Tim Drake-Wayne. Just two more fruit loops he has to deal with.

When they arrived the first thing Danny noticed was how everyone seemed to be staring at him. He knows he looks fine, Luthor would not have allowed Danny to accompany him if he didn't. So all this extra attention is really starting to make him nervous about what he's walking into.

It's not until he's standing face to face with Tim Drake does he finally understand. It feels as if he's standing in front of a mirror with how alike they look.

[wickedsmille]

Jason: You've heard of elf on a shelf, now I give you-

Jason with a dramatic arm flourish to Tim in the batchair: Tim Drake still awake!

[on-the-clear-blue]

Down in the streets of Gotham, in the side alley next to Express Urgent Care run by one Leslie Thompkins and that was funded by the Martha Wayne Foundation was a soup kitchen.

Well...a soup kitchen of sorts. Not in any way official but if you were hungry in Crime alley you knew that the food would be safe and warm...and it was a place where *you* could be safe and warm.

Danny had left a week after his parents found out that he was Phantom, a week after he had seen their grief, the regret and pain in their eyes. The week had been spent in suspense, he knew that they needed to talk about what had happened but neither of his parents were ever able to even start bringing it up before they were sobbing.

Danny knew his parents loved him, thst his father felt soul crushing guilt, that his mother spent hours staring at herself in the mirror, as if she didn't even know who was looking back at her.

And to spare them both, Danny left.

It wasn't hard to do, not when he could turn invisible and phase through walls, a final text to Sam and Tucker to say his good byes (he knew that they would break and tell his parents where he would be going) and a particularly hard hug to leave from Jazz, Danny flew off with only a back pack.

He had traveled across the US for a few months, occasionally snagging a post card from a super store to send off home, paying only when he had the excess funds (Sam's rants about mega rich corporate billionaires let him know just which stores wouldn't miss the few bucks the cards sold for)

He had met up with Dani a few times, when she was in the country, handing him Vlads credit card and telling him to keep it (though he never did) only ever using it to book a room for a few nights at a hotel to clean himself up and sleep in a real bed.

He settled in Gotham after a while, he had briefly stayed in Faucett but that place didn't have nearly enough ecto for him to live comfortably.

Gotham on the other hand? It had everything, cops that don't question why a teen is on the streets, natural ecto up the wazoo and well...a crime rate that would dissuade his parents ever looking for him there.

He had set up a more permanent shelter in an abandoned apartment building (after chasing out the low level drug dealers that were using it) and found that he kinda liked the vibes of the place under the blatant crimes being committed in broad day light.

Sure people could see you getting mugged and look the other way, but if you were still alive and there 5 minutes later, they would come back, hand you something to clean up your now bloody nose and point out the bodega that had the best sandwiches.

It was a sense of community that Danny didn't know he had missed for the many months he traveled.

His first "cook out" wasn't even supposed to be a cook out, his apartment building was mostly wood and he didn't trust himself to not burn it down, so he came outside, setting up a portable stove and setting up a pot filled with some, water to boil up a soup mix.

As he waited for it to come to temp, he saw the group of homeless rubbing their hands together, watching him with curiosity, though that quickly turned to hunger as the smell of the soup spilled out into the alley.

Instead of turning the others away Danny only shrugged, pulled out his spare paper bowls and handed them out, taking a few bites first to show that it was safe to eat.

What followed was a sort of tradition, Danny would come out a few times a day, take out his hot plate and pot and set up a soup, others started asking if they could pitch in, and well...Danny would have loved to keep providing it freely but his food was quickly dwindling.

So his soup got add in, some jerky that Crazy Tom had got tossed in, a few herbs (re:weeds) were added in by Miss O'Connor, and Danny didn't even know where Lady Dimond pulled out some spices from, but he wasn't about to question the her, he had learned never to question where the working girls hid their things.

And it sort of grew from there, who ever was around came by, some came out of their way to share a meal, but it became a meeting place of sorts "Come by the Kitchen at noon, Tom got his hands on some steak! And it ain't even smells bad!"

Sure gangs tried to pull up on the meeting place, tried to intimidate the people there or coerce them into doing something...well that was until the host, some punk teen with hair darker than black and blue eyes that were so light they were white came up, and dished out a heavy handed fist into their jaws and sent them packing.

And so the Kitchen became a safe space, if you were hungry, if you were in danger, come by the little alley way, right next to the Express Urgent Care, the Host will take care of you there, if your willing to share, to stay peaceful with the rest of the gathered people, then you were welcome to grab a bite and relax, because the Kitchen was always safe.

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It would be a few years since the Kitchen started, since people had brought chairs and tables, since an old grill of questionable origin was left out side it, since tarps with only a few holes were hung up to keep the place dry when it rained, since rugs covered the ground and the the alley it was in was swept clean of any needles or cigarette butts.

But for one boy it had only been a few short days since his Mama died, since he had found her cold and dead in the bathroom, a belt tied around her arm and a needle still in her hand.

Jason was miserable, he had stayed with her for the a single day before he knew he would have to leave, the body of his mother would start to decompose soon, so he did what he had too, calling the police with his mother's phone that didn't have a lot of minutes left on it, telling them the address before hanging up and leaving it there so he couldn't be tracked.

He couldn't be there when the cops showed up, foster care would do shit for him, and at least his Mama would be buried, and not left to rot in their bath tub.

So a young Jason Todd, scared, alone and hungry came to the Kitchen, as his mother had told him to many times before, had told him to seek out it's Host if anything ever happened to her...and well...at the very least he would get something to eat...

[wanderingmind867]

Two Face explores the dichotomy of violence and corrupted justice better than I think most characters ever could. I'm not gonna say every version of him does explore it. But i think that it's always a possibility. Because Harvey Dent is a good man who wants to work within the system to achieve progress. He wants to do good by the world, and have it do good by him. He probably donated his campaign funds to charity. He probably ran on a progressive platform. He seems like he'd be gotham's equivalent of a US progressive politician. Which is to say: he'd probably be considered centre-left outside the United States, because that country has a truly backwards political system (as i know from my many politics hyperfixations).

Anyways, Harvey represents the centre-left or the left wing more broadly, right? In that case, i'd say two face represents the ideals of the law and order, fire and brimstone style conservatives. Angry, bitter, obsessed with dishing out vengeance at gunpoint. i know that anger can fester and lead to hatred. And I know that hatred can lead to shootings and riots and all those awful things. Law and order quickly becomes vengeance and oppression, especially when you start thinking of criminals as lesser than you. So you could really explore the mindset of a crazed right wing fanatic with two face.

But let's add the judge too, just for good measure. To me, The Judge symbolizes paranoia and dictatorship. Two Face is anger and violent retribution. The Judge is a paranoid nutcase who thinks only he is fit to decide the rules. He wouldn't deal in politics. He would deal in martial law and power consolidation. I expect half his villainous schemes would revolve around trying to get martial law declared in Gotham, with him as the head of the armed forces. A strong hand to guide; an objective hand. The hand of justice herself.

Edit: Great. I redact most of this, because I just realized I could've just said: "Harvey is Lawful Good, The Judge is Lawful Neutral, Two Face is Lawful Evil." They all embody the law, but their interpretations of it...ah, those vary quite a bit. Also, I kind have wish i'd just written this. Instead, i spaced out and rambled about nothing, just writing for 20+ minutes.

[evelynendar]

Thinking bout the Judge….

[two-many-faces]

EVERYONE SHUT UP JUDAS DREW ME

And Flip. He drew me and Flip. I’m actually so friggin proud of him. Bro labeled his markers.

[jesncin]

Detective John Jones tries Bantu Knots! He feels very pretty in them.