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Dick watches Bludhaven burn
Teen Titans Vol. 3 Annual #1
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The Wayne/Phantom Double Date
Dick and Jason decided to plan a double date (it was mainly Dick but Jason was to tired to disagree) what they didn't know, was that their boyfriends already knew each other... Or that Dick's boyfriend was Jason's boyfriend from a fucked up timeline who was currently on, what was essentially, community service.
When Danny and Dan found out though? They did not miss the chance to be the chaotic little gremlins that they are.
Jason and Danny walk into the diner and walk into the booth where Dick and Dan are sitting in
Dick: there you are. Dan, this is Jason and his boyfriend, Danny
Dan, acting angry: yeah, Danny and I have met...
Danny, going along with it: Dan, how many times do I have to tell you, I'm sorry
Dan: Sorry doesn't erase the years of trauma and abandonment that you put me and dad through
Danny: Son, I'm sorry, but your father was a psychopath
Dick and Jason are just sitting there, confused because how the fuck is this twink that looks barely 27 is the father of this 37 year old that's built like a brick shithouse.
Dick: I... Did you know about this?
Jason: Nope!
Dan: he didn't tell you? Typical.
Danny: Son-
Dan, getting really into it, so into it that it's suspicious now: No! You lost the right to call me that when you left!
Dick, realising what's going on: oh my god, they're fucking with us
Danny: Damn it! We had at least another 10 minutes if you didn't get dramatic!
Jason: wait, wait, wait, you're not his dad?
Dan: I mean... In a way, he is, although, we prefer "brothers" we are still debating who's the older one though
Dick: what?
Danny: Dan is me from another timeline where my ghost combined with my godfather/uncle/arch-nemesis' ghost
Jason: that Vlad guy you told me about? He is a psychopath
Dick: that explains the murderous intent
Dan: that's right, Rich
Dick: Dick
Dan: you'll be getting mine later
Danny bursts out laughing
Jason: I see the resemblance now
Dan: hey, be glad Ellie's not here, she would have pulled the "are you my new daddy" card
After this, the double date went well, they all got along, Jason found out he could pull the "I fucked your dad" card on Dan. Danny, unfortunately, figured out that Dan has the same taste in people as Vlad, Dick made the joke that Dan is a Crystal gem.
And for entirely shits and giggles, here's how Dan and Danny found out
Danny: Dan, can't do chores on Friday night, I got a date
Dan: well fuck you, because I've got a date too
Danny: well, I'm meeting my boyfriends brother so
Dan: me to...
Danny:... Who's your boyfriend again?
Dan: the oldest Wayne son...
Danny: mine is the second oldest... Wanna fuck with them?
Dan: Absolutely
#danny phantom#dead on main#dpxdc#dp x dc crossover#Whatever Dan x Dick is called#batfam#It's either first failures or bad humor#first failures ship#bad humor ship
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You're not coming back from shit! Thrashing around in that high-conductivity state of yours, bumping into things and acting like a clown. Who are you kidding?
#dsmp fanart#c!wilbur#revivebur#dsmp#friends? they were only cramping your descent into the abyss wilby-boy! now they're gone!”#wilbur dubois au that's fucked. whats next. tommy kitsuragi#by the way if you saw the wip i un-sillied the ghost. you will stay as an omen of failure. back! back with you!#what if i remake revival arc into a disco elysium freakshow type of healing. holy shit ferb i know what we're gonna do today#today i offer you a dick a rockstar arsonist a pseudoreformed maniac. tomorrow? who knows#hymndraws#disco lazare
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Yandere! Damian x Danny
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The Al Ghul’s did not believe in love.
In strength, intelligence, in power — always.
But love is a word, a title to use, to manipulate and create whatever they wished from another.
This is a fact: the Al Ghul’s did not believe in love, nor did they feel it.
But Damian thinks that perhaps this is close to it. This funny little feeling in his chest that burns and aches in a way that leaves him breathless. That funny little feeling in his bones that itches to hold Daniel close until he is rooted into his shape and scent. That funny little feeling in his throat that wanted to bite Daniel until only the scars of his teeth remained and Daniel’s blood spilled and stained with life turned cold.
Damian knows this is love, because what else is this need to possess and hold, and tear every other inch of Daniel apart from this world and make him his own?
#dpxdc#dp x dc#dc x dp#dcxdp#danny phantom#danny fenton#dp x dc crossover#batman#dp x dc prompt#Damian x Danny#yandere damian wayne#Damian loves his boy failure#Danny is literally just some guy#but with some ghost#not that Damian or anyone else knows.#The batfam are HIGH KEY concerned#they want to separate Damian and Danny#but Damian had already tried to amputate Dick’s legs when he suggested it#Damian: you will live if not crawl#Damian is an unhinged boy#he has not had the best influence when it comes to relationships#even with the Batfam and Bruce Damian still takes que from what the Al Ghul’s do#he will either marry Danny or lock him up in a basement#dead serious
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Pairing Off, in which the Waynes meet the Fentons, just not all at once. 2,443 words
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Damian feels less than positively about the new girl in his grade.
Danielle Fenton has already garnered a bit of a reputation. Her uniform is clearly second hand, and rumors abound about whether she has joined them at Gotham Academy on a merit scholarship or as “one of Wayne's charity cases.” Neither is true; Father has offered no fiscal support to the Fentons, and yet both she and her older brother attend the Academy, leading Damian to believe they've somehow paid their own way.
Her lower class status and midwestern accent ought to make Fenton a target, but her response to being cornered or talked down to by other students was an unsettling combination of cheerful and aggressive. She is now mostly left to her own devices, despite her notoriety.
Damian has no interest in the girl. While it is true that she excels in both mathematics and social studies, her performance in English and science are unremarkable, and she poses no challenge to his rank at the top of the class. If he finds himself pushing harder in certain classes this semester in order to maintain the edge, it's no one else's business.
Now if only she would leave him alone.
Damian preemptively slams his sketchbook shut, just as a brash, inconsiderate, annoying girl hops up to sit on his desk. “Hey Dami, what're you drawing?”
“It is none of your business,” Damian seethes. “Remove yourself from my personal space before I-” he isn't allowed to threaten classmates with bodily harm, imply that he has brought weapons to school, or use words that are derogatory to women “-do so myself. By force.” He would avoid her altogether if he could, but Fenton is annoyingly (suspiciously) sneaky. He can only ever seem to sense her when she's just about on top of him.
Fenton merely laughs, high, bright, and joyful, and Damian grits his teeth. “Did you draw me yet?” she asks, and doesn't move an inch.
“No, I have not drawn you. I never said I would, and I have no plans to. Stop asking me.”
She shrugs and kicks her feet. “Maybe you'll change your mind. Can I see what you're working on?”
Damian pulls the sketchbook a tad bit closer to himself (a protective reflex that shows his weakness, he should be better than that by now.) “Never, imbecile.”
Fenton sticks her tongue out at him like a child. “Mean,” she says, still smiling. “I wanna see your art. It's so good!”
Damian tilts his nose up at her. “Of course it is, plebeian, I have standards-” he starts, but is cut off by the teacher entering. Fenton slides off his desk and heads to her own seat. Damian stows his sketchbook in his bag and tries not to think of the unfinished work inside, featuring a girl with dark hair, light eyes, and a mischievous grin.
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There's this brownstone on the outskirts of Crime Alley, an old townhouse recently converted into commercial space. There's a coffee shop on street level, a tattoo parlor down the stairs, some sorta wine emporium on the second floor, and on the third, a little second hand bookshop
It's outside the border of Jason's territory, but he feels sorta responsible for it, given that he frequents the place.
It's a little out of his way, but the atmosphere is nice, alright? Clean, with soft lighting, but not sterile or corporate like the bigger places downtown. The owners are an older couple who Jason has met a couple of times, and they seem pretty happy with the new location. They're collectors, really, who run the shop to make ends meet.
Mostly, Jason talks to their employee. Jazz.
Jazz works in the afternoons and evenings, after her classes. She goes to Gotham U, double majoring in pre-med and psych, on top of a full time job, because she's almost as insane as a bat. She assures Jason that she does alright, gets a little downtime to study on her shifts.
She always makes time to talk to Jason.
Jazz is an interesting person to talk books with. She cares less about plot and literary themes, and more about diagnosing every character with their own personal malady of the mind. She dissects their thought processes and behaviors, ruthless in her analysis.
She's gonna be a brain surgeon someday, open people up and see what really makes them tick. Jason doesn't doubt it for a second.
So maybe Jason is a little bit in love with her.
It's not a big deal. Obviously it's not going anywhere. It's just nice to have something normal, to talk to someone normal, about normal stuff like books and college and sibling antics.
Jazz's stories about her sibling, Danny, rival Jason's own, and his family is fucking disastrous. Jason isn't actually sure if Dan is older or younger than Jazz is, or, for that matter, what pronouns he should use for them, since Jazz mixes it up pretty regularly. He knows that Jazz absolutely adores them, though, and it's heartwarming, the way she smiles as she talks.
All of that to explain why Red Hood is keeping an eye on a brownstone that technically falls outside of his territory.
There's a girl inside that he needs to keep safe.
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“Hey bud, late night?” Dick asks the man lying prone in an alley, a block away from the Iceberg Lounge.
The response is slurred with sleep and muffled by a cheek pressed hard into asphalt. “S'at you, Dick?”
“Sure is. We've got to stop meeting like this,” Dick tells him, and means it.
The guy's name is Dan. No last name offered, which was fair, since Dick hasn't mentioned his.
What was weird was that Dan didn't give Penguin his last name, either, when he signed his employment contract. Just Dan.
Penguin has been trying to expand his influence into Bludhaven, and Dick's been trying to figure out why. Cobblepot is a very Gotham sort of gangster, all wrapped up in the city's ideas of style and respectability; Dick honestly would've thought that Blud was beneath him. He needs to figure out who he's contacting and what they're offering him, and he needs to do it before Penguin can get a foothold on his turf.
Running into Dan was a side effect. Dick didn't mean to keep doing it. It's just that Dan has this weird habit of completely disregarding trivial concerns such as his own health and safety, and doing weird shit like, as a random example, getting tired, laying down, and passing out. In the middle of the street. In Gotham.
The main part of Dan's job seems to be bouncing at the club. It makes sense—if you wanted to hire a guy as muscle, you couldn't do much better than Dan. He's at least 6 and a half feet tall, with a chest wider than Jason's.
But Dick has also seen Dan traveling with Penguin before. Add in the fact that it's almost impossible to dig up info on him, and that tailing him is somehow even harder, and a picture starts to come together. A very vague, very suspicious picture.
It's too bad that Dick sort of likes him, and that he's incredibly hot.
Dan has removed his face from the alley floor, and is in the process of pushing himself up. “Not your business, man,” he retorts. “What are you, a cop?”
Dick can't help a wry chuckle at that. “Not anymore.”
“No shit?” Dan asks, hauling himself to his feet. He towers over Dick like that, but it's hard to be intimidated by a man whose cheek is red and pockmarked by little bits of gravel. Dick is legitimately embarrassed that he finds it charming. He needs to get better taste in men. “Yeah, no, that makes sense,” Dan continues, looking Dick up and down. “No way they could keep your ass on the force.”
“Oh yeah?” Dick asks.
Dan snorts. “I can smell the idealism on you from here.” He starts walking, heading straight past Dick, who falls into step beside him. “You remind me of this kid I know.”
Dick gives an interested hum, hoping that if he doesn't interrupt, Dan will elaborate, but no dice.
“So, where're you taking me this time?” the big man asks, still leading, and Dick stifles a grin at how silly the whole thing is.
“Maybe if I take you out for coffee, you won't faceplant onto any more concrete,” he says, reaching up to brush off some of the little rocks. Dan stutters to a stop as Dick touches his cheek, letting him, then strides off again as soon as he's done.
“Don't care, as long as you're paying.”
Dick stops him with a tug to his arm. “Coffee shop's this way,” he explains, pointing, and Dan doesn't hesitate, pivoting to take the lead once again. Dick rushes to keep up with his not-date, a criminal who he literally picked up off the street and who has no idea where he's going. He can't see his own smile, but he knows from experience that it is both delighted and a little manic. He admits to himself, begrudgingly, that he likes his men with something wrong with them.
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The biggest reason that Tim played so much Doomed with Ghost_Boy, a couple of years ago, was that they were the only player he knew who kept hours as weird as his were. There were worse reasons to form a friendship. Ghost_Boy was a great player, and was always funny in chat. They were upbeat when things went well, and they were sarcastic but not bitter when things went poorly. Playing for the game's sake eventually changed to booting up the game to hang out with Ghost_Boy. They talked about how different their lives were, with Ghost_Boy in the midwest and Tim in the crime capital of America, and they talked about the things they had in common, like falling asleep in class. It was Tim's favorite form of stress relief, back then, when being Robin was new and overwhelming.
Then Tim got busy. No, that wasn't true—Tim had always been busy. More like, Tim's life fell to shambles, over and over again, and he stopped making time for stress relief when the very concept seemed out of his reach.
That was over dramatic. Tim fell off the game, and didn't keep in contact with his friend. That's all there was to it.
That was all there was to it, until a few nights ago, when he booted up his old Doomed file for nostalgia's sake and found a message from Ghost_Boy, sent a couple months back, that said he was planning to move to Gotham and, if Tim wanted, he'd be happy to meet up.
Tim immediately replied in the affirmative, and then he freaked out that he'd done that and started cyber stalking the guy. He couldn’t be bothered to pretend to be embarrassed by this behavior. He knew who he was.
Daniel Fenton was, in fact, a real teenager from a real midwestern town (Amity Park, Illinois.) He had moved to Gotham right when his message said he would, and lived with his older sister, Jasmine (who had custody over him,) and his younger sister, Danielle.
And that was where Tim was planning to stop his research, for the sake of his friend's privacy. Once he confirmed that he wasn't being catfished by either a supervillain or a run-of-the-mill creep, he was going to stop looking.
But Danielle Fenton's situation was incredibly weird.
Apparently, she had never lived with Daniel, Jasmine, and their parents before. Instead, after she was born, she'd been adopted by the kids’ godfather, eccentric billionaire Vlad Masters, and he was still her legal guardian. It was only after the Doctors Jack and Madeline died that she moved in with her siblings and started attending Gotham Academy, states away from her adoptive parent.
Vlad Masters was a man of eclectic tastes. The stories about him in the news were always covering some weird investment he had made, like purchasing a cheese castle in Wisconsin, or buying up property in Green Bay just to have a stake in the Packers, or pouring money into experimental forms of alternative energy. He was always refined in his public appearances, but he had the desperate edge of new money wanting to fit in with the old. Tim knew of him, but had never given him much thought before. He'd never made a move into Gotham, after all.
But the whole story was bizarre. Masters had gone to college with the Fentons, the three of them creating their own field of study in “Ectology,” before Masters had been contaminated in a lab accident, bedridden and unable to finish his degree. Jack and Maddie had continued their research, garnering just enough interest in their work to receive the funding needed to keep afloat, until some sort of breakthrough a few years ago added validity to their theories. They were practically celebrities in the niche forums Tim skimmed through. Masters, meanwhile, stopped working directly in the sciences and instead turned to networking, gaining some generous help from the friends he made and playing the stock market like a fiddle, until he was one of the most well known and lucrative investors in the world. He owned a few companies publicly, and managed some others under the table (Tim had to snort at the ridiculous naming of Dalv Co.)
And then the Fentons had kids, and they raised two of them (seemingly quite happily, if the photos on their memorialized facebook accounts meant anything.) And then, for some reason, they named the third one nearly identically to their second child and gave her straight to Vlad. Masters raised the girl in Wisconsin, until suddenly relocating to Amity Park and becoming the town's mayor. There he stayed, until the Fenton's recent passing in a lab accident of their own.
Tim doesn't know what it all adds up to. But there was something going on, with both Vlad Masters and the Fentons, and if there's something nefarious in Masters’ actions or his wealth, it could be entirely possible that Daniel was a plant—a way for him to get an in with the Waynes. Tim has to be cautious, and he has to get to the bottom of this.
That's why Tim is waiting in a coffee shop, pretending to be engrossed in his laptop while keeping an eye on the door, waiting for the appearance of a teen with black hair and blue eyes.
Tim idly thinks that Bruce had better not adopt this one.
#i wanted to write the next section before posting this but it's been sitting in my wips for months at this point so#hopefully I'll get to it and there will be a part 2 with an introductory segment like this for each of the fentons#because i think it does work better with their context also#I have Dan's done and I love it so much#Damian calls Dani 'Fenton' or 'Danielle' but please know that for the purposes of this au she's 'Dani' because it makes the situation funny#speaking of which if anyone didn't get what jason was going on about#Jazz talks about Dan Danny and Dani to him but has never bothered to specify that she has three siblings#Leading Jason to assume that they are all one person who is gender fluid because he's heard Jazz use he/him she/her and they/them#yes this is relevant to the hypothetical future identity shenanigans#this au is such a mess lololololol#oh shit right I should add actual tags and not just commentary#danny phantom#dc#batfam#dpxdc#dp x dc#damian wayne#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#danny fenton#danielle phantom#jazz fenton#dan phantom#oh boy time for ship names#anger management#brain dead#double edged sword#first failures#my writing
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So you're a go to source for all things Dick&Tim bros and you tend to write primarily from Dick's POV. So, odd question, but if you were to summarize their relationship from his POV in FIVE panels which panels would you pick? Keeping in mind that one specific aspect of their relationship that you love needs to be clearly represented by each panel (loyalty, trust etc). I hope this is a fun challenge and not an annoying question so if you don't want to answer that's cool! Have a wonderful day!
No more talk. The same thoughts run through two minds... (SotB 29) / You're my equal. My closest ally. (RR 1) / I can't stop thinking how much I rely on him. (GoG 3)
25 Feelings Dick Has About Tim
This was such a kind ask & a cool challenge which I totally failed; here are TWENTY-five panels of Dick's POV on Tim sdfdsfds Look, I got carried away! Marcia and Cindy! The boys!!
OKAY SO BEFORE I GET TO THE PANELS A FEW NOTES:
WARNING THAT THERE ARE SOME NEGATIVE EMOTIONS IN HERE because I love conflict but but but you gotta remember those are not the final word!! They are complicated people and sometimes they get mad at each other BUT ultimately their relationship is so hugely important in both their lives & they love each other and rely on each other so much -!!! <3
Also I have CONCLUDING THOUGHTS at the end about what Dick's POV leaves out (mostly: a lot of Dick defending & protecting & supporting Tim, which Dick does instinctively but isn't very self-aware about most of the time)
I have loosely organized my list into 5^5 format (5 categories with 5 examples each!), so if you want to skip to a relevant one, here are the categories!!
Below the cut:
I hate him and find him infuriating (#1-5)
On second thought, he's endearing & fun (#6-10)
Grief is complicated & he's all tangled up in mine (#11-15)
I love him & think highly of him (#16-20)
I rely on him & though it's hard for me, I trust him (#21-25)
I hate him and find him infuriating (#1 - 5)
1) He thinks he’s so smart and can psychoanalyze me and Bruce, but he doesn’t know me at all, he should get lost (New Titans 61)
2) He thinks he’s so smart and can psychoanalyze Bruce but he doesn’t know Bruce at all, he should get lost (Gotham Knights 26)
3) He is so nosy about stuff that is MY business (Robin 0)
4) He sounds like an insincere suck-up half the time... but okay, fine, if you push him he's got a sense of humor about it (New Titans 65)
5) I'm sure he's a better vigilante than me. It's my fault for being a failure, but I resent him anyway. (Nightwing 9 - Dick's having a nightmare)
On second thought, he's kinda endearing (#6-10)
6) He worries too much and gets anxious so easily, but it makes him fun to tease (Robin 67)
7) I'm not that competitive - okay, so maybe I'm a little competitive, I gotta make sure he doesn't get a swelled head (Prodigal)
8) I'm supposed to be his favorite! It is not cool for him to be fanboying over my not-girlfriend's not-boyfriend!! (Birds of Prey 19)
9) We have fun together. I can kick back and relax when it's just the two of us. Plus I get to boss him around a bit. (Prodigal)
10) He’s always trying to reassure me, and I guess it's a little comforting, but also he doesn’t really get it. Or me. He makes excuses that he shouldn't, because he doesn't understand that I suck. (Nightwing 64)
Grief is complicated and he's all tangled up in mine (#11 - 15)
11) He reminds me of everything I try not to think about. Sometimes the memories are so strong it hurts to look at him. (Batman 441)
12) WHY IS HE BEING IMPOSSIBLE ALL OF A SUDDEN??? THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING (Nightwing 139)
13) We're the same. He says all the things I don't let myself think about. It's like arguing with myself. (Nightwing 139)
14) He thinks he gets to tell me what to do but he doesn’t, fuck him (Battle for the Cowl)
15) Life sucks, so what. I sucked it up so he should too (RR 1)
I love him and think highly of him (#16 - 20)
16) He’s the closest thing to a brother I’ll ever have. If someone hurts him I will hurt them harder. (Nightwing 6)
17) I can't handle the idea of losing him. (Nightwing 97)
17) He’s so good and I’m not. I'm afraid I’m bad for him. (Nightwing 110)
18) He’s better than me, and it’s kind of a relief because I know no matter what he’ll be okay. (Gates of Gotham 3)
19) In my head he’s the responsible one. (Gotham Knights 10)
I rely on him, and though it's hard for me, I trust him (#20-25)
20) I know I have to trust him but I'm afraid he'll make the wrong choices and get hurt (Nightwing 139)
21) I'm sure I know what he should do because I see myself in him - not that I can take my own advice, but he should (Blackest Night 3)
22) I trust him. When I’m losing my grip on things, he pulls me back. (Gotham Knights 10)
23) I want him to trust me (Red Robin 12)
24) He can tell when I'm lying. Sometimes he sees my weaknesses better than I wish he did. (Detective Comics 874)
25) He’s always there when I need him. (Teen Titans / Outsiders Secret Files)
Final rambling thoughts:
TIM: Uhh, okay, so I'm just skimming this list - do you really trust me? you're not just saying that? - but anyway, I'm confused because you left some stuff out? Like some stuff that's kinda important? DICK: No? I think I got everything? TIM (starts counting on his fingers): The time I was having a bad day but then I called you. The time I got captured by Two-Face but then you saved me. The time I fell off a train but then you saved me. The time I fell off a building but then you saved me. The time I fell off a different building - DICK: I feel like you're trying to make some kind of point but I'm not sure what it could be.
SO THE THING IS, I put 25 panels in here and not a single one has Dick catching Tim when he’s falling!!! But I think that's a central motif of their relationship from Tim’s POV, not Dick’s. I love Dick, but in some ways I think he is spectacularly un-self-aware.
And I think he especially has a lot of blind spots about Tim. He kinda intermittently gets that Tim admires him, and he enjoys it in a playful I-get-to-boss-you-around way. But Dick tends to consistently underestimate all of his own good qualities & skills, and he meets Tim at a point in his life when he's especially down on himself & his abilities. And so he's unable to see his own influence on Tim, & therefore unable to fully understand a lot of Tim's priorities and loyalties and motivations, because you can't actually understand Tim without understanding Dick's impact on him. There's a fascinating moment in Bruce Wayne: Murderer when Dick's completely blindsided & upset to discover that Tim doesn't entirely trust Bruce, even though this has been a definitive fact of Tim's whole thing ever since he showed up with his Batman needs Robin theory, and Barbara has to actively remind Dick of the obvious-to-everyone-except-Dick fact that a lot of Tim's loyalty is to Dick, and Tim loves Bruce but feels free to be more wary of him. (And to give Bruce credit: this is not something he ever begrudges.) But anyway Babs points this out, and Dick manages to sorta process it for about five seconds, but he cannot actually accept it into his worldview so instead he discards it at the speed of light and goes off and has an argument with Tim instead sdfsfdsf
All of Dick's virtues - Dick's kindness at the circus and Dick's determination to fight through grief and Dick's rigid sense of morals and Dick's vigilante skills and every time Dick has ever backed Tim up or listened to him or protected him or saved him from something or just been casually kind to a stranger in Tim's presence etc etc etc - all these things loom really large in Tim's mental story of Who Dick Is, and What Dick And Tim's Relationship Is. Tim meets Dick before he meets Bruce, trusts Dick more than Bruce, aspires to be Robin instead of Batman. And so in Tim's default version of the story, Dick is the super-special and admirable hero and Tim is... nobody in particular, a tagalong outsider who's barely managing to be a hero, not part of Dick and Bruce's family and not part of their story, who, if he's VERY LUCKY and tries REALLY HARD, might be able to fight his way to proving himself and offering something to Dick that Dick will value, if Dick doesn't get fed up with him first.
But that's not Dick's version of the story!!!
Dick's version of the story is almost the exact opposite, a story where Dick's an outcast failure black sheep who's screwing up everything he tries, and meanwhile Tim is The Sudden New Perfect Robin Who's Better Than Me And Probably Bruce Loves Him More And Probably They Gossip About What A Loser I Am, mixed with a complicated edge of Tim Thinks He's So Smart But He Doesn't Know Me/Us At All. Dick gets much more attached to Tim over time, and Tim gets unnervingly better at the know-it-all psychoanalysis so then Dick gets to have complicated feelings about him being right instead of just annoyance at him for being wrong, plus Dick's relationship with Bruce improves a lot, so Tim stops feeling so threatening. But Dick never fundamentally changes his basic theory of their relationship in which Tim is highly impressive and capable, and Dick is not so much.
And so asking Dick about Tim is kinda like if you asked George Bailey to tell you about Harry Bailey in It's A Wonderful Life; like, you'll be there for five hours while he tells you how great Harry is, and how accomplished Harry is, and how he doesn't really get how or why Harry does the things he does, and maybe George does feel a little resentful or jealous sometimes, but that pales in comparison to all his admiration and trust for Harry who he loves so much, who's better than him in so many ways, and he's not gonna openly gripe but secretly he can't help but feel sometimes like he's such a failure in comparison to Harry, a perfect person who emerged fully formed from Zeus's head with all the virtues and also all the accomplishments, etc. etc. etc. --
-- and he will not actually remember the part where he changed and saved Harry's whole entire life unless you literally send him to an alternate timeline in order to force him to remember it. <3
#i enjoyed thinking about this so much i wrote a novel with All My Thoughts sorry sdfsdfs#tim drake#dick grayson#somewhat tangential but as i was writing this i was thinking about zahri's post#about how different types of stories offer different kinds of emotional payoffs#and i think for me for dick and tim the main two payoffs are:#1) someone who sees & understands your grief for deaths that will never get fixed or get better#and who will face your ghosts with you EVEN WHEN you're also mad at each other#2) someone who you look at and you see all the ways that you suck & he's better & you're a loser who's failed him etc etc#but it turns out that you're wrong. that you're good enough. not that none of the failures were real or that they were all in your head#but it turns out that it's okay that you didn't always immediately do or feel the right thing#and it's okay that you weren't perfect. you can fuck up six thousand ways & everything you did right will still matter#not because of making excuses or allowances or somebody pityingly trying to make you feel better#but because in the end the things you did right are just Genuinely More Valuable than anything you did wrong#all the times you tried & everything that you tried to give - everything you think wasn't good enough - it was.#IN OTHER WORDS they are both convinced they're not good enough & they are both wrong <3#anyway dick and tim are both INCREDIBLY SIMILAR and also CONSTANTLY misreading each other and i love that for them#and like. they will sometimes totally misread each other & then never figure out the part that they misunderstood#but then they manage to keep going anyway. we love each other on purpose <333#ask tag#dick&tim
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"Jason was the happy robin" this, "jason was the angry robin" that. Let's all be fully honest here Jason was the lonely robin
#It gets worse the more i think about it aiguaoughhh#they pretty much retconned the people he was close to before the crisis. he only interacts with dick like once or twice#ive never seen him with barbara#he had no team#in terms of school he had rena(?) and then 3 friends that show up in an annual and never again#and obviously with the whole secret identity it hardly can be a close friendship. esp with how little theyre shown#in terms of super friends he had Danny and Kid Devil. which. one is mentioned off hand and theyre never seen together#and the other is from a short story and never brought up again#alfred has his praises sung but we never really see him connect with jay#all he had was BRUCE. and the only way to ever be with bruce is to be robin#is it really any wonder he chased after his mother? is it any wonder who chose to trust someone he hardly knew?#dc liveblog#jason todd#i feel so bad for him all the time for forever#ive just started reading comics after his death but before his resurrection. the hallucination jason era#and its seems to be shaping up to be with him written as the angry robin who never listened#which i Know is because of the writers. but in universe? it just feels like jason wasnt understood or known at all#doylist vs watsonian moment as they say#dc comics#batman comics#and he became a symbol of failure to batman So Quickly. not a memory but a reminder#and every trophy from his time as robin was taken out of the batcave. and every moment as jason was removed from (at least) bruces room#he was on call/on a list as a backup titan if they needed help but he wasnt With them. they teamed up twice#i cant remember if he meant it towards blood specifically or in general rn but he fully admitted to not being good/experienced enough#they didn't really know him and he didn't really know them#wait fuck was rena all pre-crisis. devastating. he stopped going on patrols n being robin for awhile when she was his gf#of course by then he was already A Hero who cant fully ignore how he can help so he eventually was like yeah we should stop a little#obviously there was that catwoman arc going on and i feel writers just liked keeping him away alot. but ough. he was so quick to stop when#there was someone There. and robin didn't have ti feel like all he had#anyway crisis got rid of her im sure. like harvey. when does 'pre and post crisis' actually start bc its not at the crisis its issues after
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XII, The Fool 𖤐
𖤐The Black Tarot𖤐
#starkid#moodboard#hatchetfield#hatchetverse#black friday#starkid black friday#nightmare time#tgwdlm#starkid tgwdlm#the guy who didn't like musicals#ted spankoffski#theodore spankoffski#Teddy#Hi criss#I see you#You've been asking for this so I shall deliver#You fool! What have you done!? You've drawn the most disastrous and unlucky card it is possible to pull in this or any other tarot deck! It#cannot be overstated how bad this is. This card represents misfortune self-destruction humiliation and failure. The appearance of this#card could portend bankruptcy earthquakes a stock market crash catching your penis in your zipper getting kicked in the nuts testicular#torsions lots of bad dick stuff bear attacks falling in a time vortex and accidentally killing your grandfather falling in a time vortex#and accidentally becoming your own grandfather and much much worse.
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“I spent years building up respect as Nightwing and now they’re looking at me like I’m one more psycho Batman impersonator. The whole idea of replacing Bruce was insane. And i hate the cape Alfred—the cape was the first thing I ditched when I got out on my own. I’m way off balance.”
“As I see it, your parents were show business people master Richard. Those are your roots. Try to think of your Batman not as a memorial—you and I know he’d hate that—but as a performance…and play it to your strengths.”
“Don’t ever let me forget the golden rule Alfie. The show must go on.”
After Damian storms off to find a teacher he respects because dick scolded him for going too far in a fight, dick vents his frustrations to Alfred. Damian is gone. No one believes he’s Batman. And all the years he’s put into getting respect as Nightwing were for nothing. Hes not Batman and trying to be was insane. Alfred tells him to stop trying to be Batman and to make a performance of it instead. His parents were in show business after all.
Batman and Robin #2
#dc#dick grayson#nightwing#dick and Alfred#dick and Bruce#Damian and dick#dick and failure#dick grayson batman#Batman and Robin#stressed dick
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Excerpts of "Querelle of Brest" by Jean Genet/Scenes of Solomon Tozer from S1 of The Terror
#solomon tozer#the terror#jean genet#web weaving#genet would have died of acute heart failure if he ever met tozer from the mammoth gush of blood rushing to his dick at the speed of light
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Dick Grayson and Dan Fenton are two sides of the same coin
drawn together by the overwhelming force of their shared anger, yet tempered by their differing ways of dealing with it.
Their personalities mirror each other, with subtle but significant differences in how they react to their emotions and the world around them.
Dick Grayson is a person who, despite carrying an intense inner rage, has spent years learning how to mask it, constantly suppressing his feelings because of the responsibility he feels toward those who rely on him.
His anger is like a volatile storm beneath the surface, always simmering, always ready to boil over.
But Dick keeps that storm contained, partly out of a sense of duty and partly because he cannot afford to lose control—not when there are people depending on him, especially after everything he’s experienced.
When Dick does snap, it’s explosive, a red-hot fury that consumes him and everyone around him.
His anger comes from a deep sense of betrayal, loss, and frustration, emotions that are often triggered by his inability to fully heal from past wounds. His guilt over not being there when others need him can push him to the edge, and when he finally lets go, it's intense and uncontrollable.
Dan Fenton, on the other hand, carries his anger like a weapon—he doesn't mask it, doesn't suppress it, and most importantly, doesn't care who sees it.
His rage is a direct expression of his complete disillusionment with the world around him. Dan feels trapped in a cycle of pain and self-loathing, and his anger is a response to that helplessness. His anger is his shield, his way of saying, "I'm not going to be ignored. I'm not going to pretend anymore."
When Dan snaps, it's not just explosive—it's total annihilation. There’s no restraint, no second thoughts, just a primal need to destroy whatever is in his way, whether it's physical or emotional.
Dan’s rage isn't a mere outburst; it's a reaction to everything he sees as wrong in the world, and he doesn't try to control it because, for him, the control is gone.
He feels like he's drowning, but instead of letting others help, he isolates himself, pushing away anyone who might try to get too close, afraid that he’ll drag them down with him.
The bond between Dick and Dan is magnetic because they see themselves in each other.
Dick wants to help Dan because he sees his own unresolved rage mirrored in him. He recognizes that same fire, that same inability to fully trust the world around him, and he can’t help but want to pull Dan out of the abyss that he himself struggles to stay out of.
However, Dick's optimism—his belief that things can get better—clashes with Dan's complete loss of hope.
Dick can't help himself, but he tries anyway because, deep down, he’s terrified of losing someone else.
The fear of someone dying while he wasn’t there for them is something Dick struggles with every day.
This fear pushes him to try to “save” Dan, not just because of his own guilt but because he can’t bear the thought of letting another person slip away, consumed by their anger and pain.
Dan feels the weight of his anger and self-isolation.
He recognizes Dick’s attempt to help, but he feels unworthy of that help. He fears that anyone who gets too close to him will be consumed by his darkness.
Dan feels like he’s already too far gone, that any attempt to fix himself will only result in dragging others into the chaos.
In that way, he isolates himself, pushing away anyone who might care, even if they’re offering a lifeline.
They are drawn to each other because they are two halves of the same broken whole.
Their anger is the bridge that connects them, even as it drives them apart.
Dick’s attempts to help Dan are ultimately a reflection of his own inner turmoil and his fear of being alone in his anger.
Meanwhile, Dan's response to Dick is a reminder of the path Dick could go down if he allows his rage to consume him fully.
They are both fueled by bitterness and anger, but where Dick’s anger is tempered by a relentless hope, Dan’s is an all-consuming darkness.
The fundamental difference is that Dick still believes in the possibility of change, while Dan is resigned to his own destruction.
In many ways, Dick and Dan are forced into a complicated, tense dance. Dick wants to fix Dan, but Dan resists, unsure if he even deserves the help.
But, beneath the resistance, there’s a quiet understanding between them, a recognition of the same pain, the same anger that keeps them from moving forward. They see themselves in each other, and that’s what makes their connection so powerful—and so so difficult.
But Despite the pain, despite the anger, despite the near-constant push and pull between them, Dick Grayson and Dan Fenton would still end up drawn into something deeper. They would love because of the pain as much as despite it.
Because see, most people see what Dick and Dan project—Dick as the golden boy who has everything under control, Dan as an unstoppable force of destruction.
But they both recognize the truth beneath the masks. Dick sees Dan’s pain, the raw vulnerability buried under all that rage, and Dan sees the exhaustion behind Dick’s carefully maintained control. There’s no need to pretend with each other, and that honesty is intoxicating.
And Both of them are angry—but with each other, they don’t need to justify it.
Dick doesn’t have to hold back his frustration and grief, and Dan doesn’t have to pretend he doesn’t care. They understand that part of each other instinctively, without having to put it into words. They can be angry together, and instead of it being destructive, it’s relieving—like finally having someone who just gets it.
Neither of them is built for something soft and easy.
They could have quiet, peaceful relationships with people who don’t challenge them—but they don’t want that. They’re both drawn to the fight, to the sharp edges, to the constant tension between destruction and salvation. With each other, love isn’t calm—it’s a storm. But it’s their storm, and they can’t walk away from it.
Even in a room full of people, both Dick and Dan carry a deep, persistent loneliness.
Dick is surrounded by people who love him, yet he always feels responsible for everything, always afraid of letting someone down.
Dan isolates himself because he’s convinced his presence is a threat. But with each other, that loneliness eases, misery loves company, they say
When emotions run too deep for words, physicality becomes their outlet. Whether it’s a fight, a touch, or just sitting next to each other, their connection is tangible.
Dan, who keeps everyone at arm’s length, finds himself unwilling to let go of the warmth Dick offers.
Dick, who usually holds himself back, allows himself to hold on.
Their relationship is a mess of passion, fights, comfort, and raw honesty.
They crash into each other like fire meeting gasoline, but somehow, they don’t consume each other completely. Instead, they ignite something new—something neither of them fully understands, but neither of them can walk away from.
They love in spite of the pain because they are the only ones who can truly see each other, the only ones who can hold on through the worst of it. And even if they hurt, even if they struggle, being together is still better than being apart.
#dick grayson#dan phantom#dan fenton#dp x dc#dpxdc#bad humor#bad humor ship#batman#dan phantom x dick grayson#they're my babies#dick x dan#danny phantom#character analysis#maybe#Angry Boys#hurt/comfort#not sure abt thz comfort#They Break Each Other and then Put Each Other Back Together#Mutual Destruction But Also Healing#Fire Meets Gasoline#They Burn But They Don’t Burn Out#They Shouldn’t Work But They Do#Toxic but Not Really#Savior Complex vs Self-Destruction#first failures ship#first failures
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Tim: Do you know what it's like to feel this stupid?
Jason: *Starts to laugh from behind the door*
Dick: *Goes up to said door and pushed it back hard, hittin Jason*
Jason: *From behind the door* Ow!
#source: Golden Girls#be nice Jason we know you had it rough but give the poor guy a break when he feels like a failure from a case or whatever ya bully#dc#dc characters#incorrect quotes#incorrect dc quotes#incorrect dcu#jason todd#red hood#Dick Grayson#Nightwing#Tim Drake#Red Robin#incorrect Jason Todd#incorrect dick grayson#incorrect tim drake#incorrect batbros#incorrect batboys quotes#batboys#batbros#Dickie Bird#Timbo#jaybird
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Big Willy / Evening in Brisbane
#1 william st#the one in the middle#is the QLD state government building#however in a case of Shit You Just Can't Make Up from most angles it looks like a dick#You can see it almost everywhere in the city in ways that are so comical it gives the air of an unsolicited dick pic#it GLOWS in the afternoon and LOOMS over West End to the point where you'll turn a corner and it'll come at you like a jumpscare#anyway uh this piece didn't turn out how I wanted#like chalking it up as a failure but learnt a lot#brisbane#illustration#queensland#australia
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Ok not to be weird but
Dick and Bruce = Daughter and Dad issues
Jason and Bruce = Youngest Son and Father issues
Cass and Bruce = Eldest Daughter and Mother issues
Tim and Bruce = Middle Daughter and Mom issues
Damian and Bruce = Youngest Child and Father issues
#labeled as such because#dick and his desire for independence and autonomy going against Bruce’s overprotective father instincts#jason and his desire for bruce to DO SOMETHING to show that he’s his child (badly worded I hope u get the gist)#honestly dick could go both ways. like his desire to be as seperate from bruce as possible despite being so similar? mommy issues right ther#cass could also go either way with her desire to emulate bruce and follow in his footsteps without following his failures#tim and his likeliness to Bruce— especially in terms of emotional reactions#I don’t think I have to explain damian#batfamily#dick grayson#jason todd#cassandra cain#tim drake#damian wayne
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Today fucking SUCKED.
I’m restarting my Final 40 again, because of a mistake I made.
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Some of the calls we had today were horrific.
AND
Lt ???, who I’ll be working with on back half nights, is no longer a mystery. He’s a DICK. He acted like a dick when he came in for his night shift, and Burly Man admitted that he’s always like that when he’s not hiding out in his office.
It’s the trifecta of suck!
It hasn’t led me to an “I don’t want to do this anymore” moment, but it definitely led me to an “I don’t wanna do this right now” moment. Very glad to be at my house, not on a channel, not in my uniform, not answering to anyone except myself, not keeping track of any details other than the ordinary ones.
On the plus side, after a horrible call involving a dog, I texted Cory, “Pet Momo for me.” He sent me this:
And it was adorable. Pet your dogs! 💕
I’m about to take a shower to wash off the day, then chill so hard.
#🚑#failure#Lt dick#okay first he was snarky about me being on phones at the end of my shift#and then he straight up yelled at the ops dispatcher#about something that required zero yelling#and then he hid in his office instead of helping like Lt Buddy or Lt serious#he KNOWS it’s taking a while for me to clear so I feel like I’ll have a target on my back when I start on his shift#it’s been a minute since I’ve worked for a dick bag but my documentation skills are strong#as is my ability to run it up the chain#it’s only for a few months#at least i hope so
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I just have a lot of thoughts about these panels that it's hard to put into order.
One thing I'm glad about, though: Marv Wolfman said fans were eager around this time for Dick and Donna to get together, and he resisted. I really like this image of them better - of being very close friends. The Wonder Twins. 💞
#dc comics#teen titans#new teen titans#new teen titans no. 28#dick grayson#robin#nightwing#donna troy#wondergirl#starfire#kori anders#koriand'r#dickkory#no bc#it's so sad to think that dick saw himself not being fanatical like bruce and thought that was failure#when actually dick being able to live#to not be obsessed#to be a person outside of the costume#is exactly the goal#dick & kory#dick & donna#donna & kory
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