#disordered endogenic system

[rusanya-does-edits]

We are STILL trying to find where we got this flag but we did make a disordered endogenic icon of Vanilla (World's End Club) at some point with a different disordered endogenic flag.

[remnantsofthestarscollective321]

Casual reminder that the following things are considered traumatic to small children

- neglect (physical and/or emotional)

- living in an emotionally unstable environment (for example, having parents that fight often)

- any kind of physical, emotional, or sexual abuse (not just from parents)

- consistent bullying

- etc

Remember that what is traumatic to a child is not the same as what is traumatic to you now. So think again before saying your trauma ‘isn’t bad enough’

[traumagenic-positivity]

i love you systems who call your alters "parts"

i love you systems who call your alters "alters"

i love you systems who call your alters "headmates"

i love you systems who call your alters "voices"

i love you systems who call your alters swears

i love you systems who call your alters things that are silly, weird, or normal

dont let anyone tell you what to call them <3

[roomwithavoid]

plural blinkies ~ANYONE ATTEMPTING TO START SYSCOURSE, OR GOING AGAINST PLURAL UNITY ON THIS POST WILL BE IMMEDIATELY BLOCKED~

(f2u with or without credit AFTER reblogging this post!)

[BLINKIES MASTERPOST]

[editedantiendoposts]

It's THIS simple:

[redflagzsys]

here's what i've learned from fakeclaimers on what makes someone a faker in DID:

having a name that's too "out there"

not being cis gender

being lgbt in general

your alters have different names

you have more than 20 alters

being american

being white

having non-human alters

having introjects (especially of popular media)

being alternative

knowing youre a system

knowing even one fact about one of the alters

being a minor

posting videos/content about DID

liking anything mainstream

having alters with different interests and distinct differences

having little alters or alters of different ages

alters with pronouns (specifically neopronouns, or ones different from the bodies birth gender)

putting pins on your backpack (this is referencing a very specific post)

having a single ounce of fun

if you're any one of these then you're apparently faking and/or deserving of ridicule!!!

[deltoradecay]

Been seeing a lot of "endos DNI, also mixed origin systems and endo supporters included in the DNI too" lately, much more than usual. Which is absolutely ridiculous coming from the people claiming to protect "real DID/OSDD" systems, considering as long as you support endogenics you're added into the DNIs and grouped in as a "fake". Looks like they have their priorities straight! Definitely looks like it's about protecting disordered systems and not about simple exclusionism to me!

SO. On that sarcastic note.

Mixed origin systems, you deserve supportive spaces. You should be able to access both traumagenic and endogenic spaces if both apply to you. You don't deserve to be cast aside like that. If you have traumagenic aspects to your system, you belong in traumagenic spaces. If you have endogenic aspects to your system, you belong in endogenic spaces. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Disordered endogenic systems, you should have access to spaces for people with your disorder and I hope you're able to find the support you need. I hope you're able to avoid the discourse and find a community you can feel safe in. You're not less disordered because you're endogenic.

Systems of any origin with CDDs such as DID or OSDD who support endogenics, you shouldn't be barred from your own spaces because you support other groups. You deserve kindness, support, and community, just as anyone else does. Your support of endogenics does not and will never mean you should be removed from CDD spaces and it certainly doesn't mean you're unsafe for those with CDDs to be around.

Endogenic supporters of any kind, your support is immensely appreciated. You also don't deserve to be picked apart and cast out simply based on your support of a group of people. Genuinely thank you for supporting endogenics regardless.

[frameacloud]

Plurality, multiplicity, and systems are not synonyms for DID. They are umbrellas that include DID as well as other disordered and non-disordered experiences of being more than one person or personality in one body over time.

[lethroe]

Some anti endo systems hate the idea of disordered systems being able to “function” in day to day life. Like i hate to burst your bubble but just because they have a job or can go to school doesn’t mean that they aren’t disordered or disabled. That’s an ablest concept.

[lifenconcepts]

Listen. How about you just.. use whatever term you feel most comfortable with. No matter if it doesn’t fit the most common definition or if you made it yourself or if it will likely change soon. Just be comfortable with now, and that can also mean going unlabelled. Because in such a time where knowing everything about you is encouraged, it’s fine to admit you just don’t know something yet.

[rusanya-does-edits]

Yae Miko (Genshin Impact) is pinklexic, lexegender just in general, is part of a disordered endogenic system and identifies as systemivexo!

This was asked for by literally nobody and is very selves-indulgent sksksk.

[hiiragi7]

The plural community has a major problem with how it treats final fusion and systems who are fully fused.

If you ever wonder why you don't meet many fully fused systems in the community, part of it is because we are actively pushed out of the community.

People have been really shitty towards me ever since I hit final fusion in January. My friends who are fully fused have also experienced similar.

I feel like I can't talk about my experiences at all in a lot of spaces. When I do, I feel like I have to put in extra effort to word myself carefully, and even then it doesn't really help. It doesn't matter how much I say "everyone's experiences are different" or "this is how it is for me personally", people act weird towards me just because I am fully fused. I can't just talk about my experiences with my system like everyone else and it's really draining and frustrating.

People assume that because I am fully fused I will be pushy about fusion or even force fusion onto other systems. People say they are intimidated by me and don't want to talk to me because I am fully fused. People tell me about how horrible they think fusion is and how it's murder. People say they feel bad for fused systems because they think all fused systems are tricked into fusion and about how parts language is dehumanizing and abuse. People say I must hate myself or hate being a system because I chose final fusion. People say they don't believe in final fusion existing at all and that it's unhealthy to believe in it, that fused systems are just systems pretending to be singlets, and that we just need to deal with our internalized ableism and accept we're plural.

People even assume I'm "sysmed" because I am fully fused and use parts language. I have been vocally pro-endo the entire time I've been in system spaces. Hell, I myself am endogenic.

My very belonging in the plural community is constantly in question. I have witnessed numerous debates over the years about whether fully fused systems should be allowed in the community at all, or be allowed to talk about system experiences... because we "chose to be singlets". I've even seen people suggest that we are "appropriating" systemhood by talking about it because we are "no longer systems and have no right to talk about what being a system is like".

"No singlets should be allowed to talk about system experiences or be allowed in system communities, and that includes fully fused individuals" was and still is a major stance here on tumblr, as well as several discord servers I've been in.

I'm constantly expected to censor or completely not talk about my experiences at all because I am fully fused. Final fusion is on the blacklist for a lot of plural servers, and on tumblr a lot of folks get asked to trigger warn anything mentioning final fusion. This isn't something that really happens for any other form of DID recovery. This is specifically targeted at final fusion.

Yes, I understand that there are systems who are pressured to fuse and that it may be a triggering topic for these systems; at the same time, the plural community fosters a lot of fear and shame around final fusion by barring any talk of it and framing it as a negative thing, and it is rarely taken into consideration how triggering it is for many fully fused systems like myself to not be allowed to speak about our experiences and be treated like our existence needs to be hidden and censored, especially when we constantly see others talking very poorly of us and our experiences on top of that.

I get told I'm wrong about my own experiences as a fully fused system or about my thoughts on functional multiplicity and final fusion by systems who are neither fully fused nor functionally multiple, many of whom have never even spoken to a system who is or read about our experiences at all. People in the community are extremely black-and-white about it, and when I talk about how from my experience functional multiplicity and final fusion aren't actually a strict binary, people are very quick to tell me about how they're completely different experiences when they haven't even experienced it or even really know anything about it.

There's so much misinformation in the community about final fusion and it really fucking sucks.

It's so painful hearing my fully fused friends talk about how many of them have been chased out of the community or know folks who have been.

Plural community, be better for fused systems.

[burningnails]

Endos: ‘We don’t claim to have a DID/OSDD we just have alters like you as a symptom.’

Yes… a symptom of…. go on, I’ll let you guess.

[thenotsilly]

being a non-disordered plural is so weird. like yeah i have Guys in my brain. why? idk my brain just kinda did that. no therapy needed we're just silly like that.

[plurality-is-mundane]

mundane plurality is

me: *pacing back and forth in the kitchen, completely disassociated*

caretaker: hey

caretaker: did you eat

me:

me: *silently goes to make food*

caretaker: 👍

We do this so often. Apollo is the one who helps take care of our body.

[redefine-ur-plurality]

I don't think it should be necessary for me to state how much I fucking despise r/systemscringe and similar communities and forums. What do they even think is so good about what they're doing? They actively hunt down traumatised minors on the internet, post their screenshots and publicly shame them until they are too scared to be active anymore. They fakeclaim anyone and everyone who doesn't precisely conform to their exact definition of what a plural should be - which is ironic since the majority of them are not plural. Everything they say seems to contradict itself, it's hard to tell what they think a system can be/have. I wouldn't be surprised if they decided systems weren't real altogether.

It's like

High alter count? fake

Low alter count? fake

Positive, healthy relationship with alters? fake

Negative, unhealthy relationship with alters? fake

Traumagenic? faking trauma to harm traumatized victims

Endogenic? faking a disorder, even though they never claimed to have it

Tulpagenic? cultural appropriation.

Enjoys problematic media? oh god they can't have interests!!! They *must* be faking

Stereotypically cringe/2020core? fake.

Basic person(people) functioning in life and working a job? fake.

Struggling to function properly? fake.

Stuck living with abusers/still being abused? fake.

Easily triggered? fake.

Hardly ever triggered? fake.

Vivid memories of trauma? fake.

No memories of trauma? fake.

Mixed origin? fake.

Undiagnosed DID/OSDD? fake.

Diagnosed DID/OSDD? fake.

Minor? fake. (which is odd, considering DID is known to form in early childhood)

Adult? fake.

Had more than one account of trauma/abused by more than one person? fake.

Ritually abused? fake.

Abused sexually/verbally/emotionally, neglected, gaslit or manipulated (any form of abuse besides or alongside physical)? fake

They are hypocrites.