#dungeon lords

[femsteria]

Everything eats and is eaten till it’s fed

[dunmeshistash]

Was it ever specified why the demon was extra cruel to mithrun by taking his eye and biting off his ears? The other dungeon masters we see still have all their limbs. I know mithrun said that the demon did it because he took pride in his elven features. But I’ve also seen people say that the demon isnt particulary cruel and that it justs wants to consume things (like a naturel thing, people crave food, the demon craves desires)

My first assumption is that it was more about carelessness than something "cruel".

The only other Dungeon Lord we see be consumed is Thistle right? Perhaps he was more careful with him cause he knew the others would see it? It might be that when he eats dungeon lords he isn't particularly careful not to hurt them physically, he just grabs Mithrun in whatever way and pierces his eyes with a claw, I don't think it was meant as punishment

We know he can eat flesh too tho, he says it's not appealing but he did it because that was what expected of him, so another theory might be that he did it because Mithrun expected him to due to his own inferiority complex? Or maybe the complex about the body parts itself made them something the Demon wanted to eat

Anyway I don't think he meant to be cruel to Mithrun, but he doesn't care not to be cruel? Sometimes we can perceive things cats do as "cruel" for example but for the cat they're just acting like a cat, there's no "evil intent" behind their actions even when we try to assign meaning to it (Mithrun might be assigning meaning to it too)

All theories tho.

[eternal-moss]

Being a big Thistle and Mithrun fan is sad because I genuinely cannot look at the panels when they are being ‘devoured’. It makes me feel sick to my stomach, it’s just so viscerally reminiscent of sexual assault it literally makes me feel like throwing up…

[optimistic-tree]

Conclusion

Love how the Canaries came to the conclusion that the dungeon was in terrible danger because of the presence of a human chimera. Because humans disappear as a dungeon lord loses power, and the dungeon lord wants someone to talk to.

Everybody thinks Laois would want to make human Chimera-he wouldn't. He doesn't want any humans involved in his cool monster-making.

But this dungeon-chimera wasn't on purpose. Thistle just saw the dead dragon and Falin, and was like "WHAT DID YOU DUMBASSES DO TO MY DRAGON" and then stuck it back together.

Still wondering where those feathers came from, though.

[rinarin-karimel]

I think about these guys… if besides the Thistle's dungeon there were other active dungeons (dungeon lords), and they clearly were. Then after the lion's appetite was eaten, their power should have ceased to exist at once, and without explanation. They were stunned. I like the theory that some of them were saved by Mithrun before the end of the manga, but…

[britcision]

Hey by the way theme song for just any of the dungeon lords

Enjoy

[pinklovely05]

I figured it out

[razzberrysheep]

covetous

[xiaoartss]

“Please don’t leave”

[marinewaltz]

YAYYYYY WAHOO (CHEERING) DUNMESHI SEASON 2!!!!!!!

i drew stickers of the gang incapacitated by stomachaches

[tsuyonpuu]

Senshi Dunmeshi 🤝 Samwise LOTR Cooking meals for loved ones

I recently started watching Dungeon Meshi and somehow came up with this crossover and I just had to draw it haha

[dopplerdora]

Comming back to this. The main reason I think Dungeon lords live longer is this comic.

Dungeons start to collapsed without a lord, yet an entire clan of dwarves who live 200 years is able to exist around the Dungeon specifically. So unless a Dungeon that looks blocked off with a guard clan manages to find new lords every 200ish years....

How Old Is Thistle?

(EDIT: I've made a follow-up post to this one that goes deeper into the math and additional evidence that the 5:1 ratio is correct. You can read it here!)

I've seen people debating this and a lot of folks insisting that Thistle is a child, and since Thistle just debuted in the anime, I wanted to do a full write-up to help myself and others figure this out.

We don't know how old any of the Merini family members are exactly, so the best we can do is guess based on the information we have, but after carefully studying the manga, I think Thistle is at least a teenager, but much more likely a young adult, and definitely not a prepubescent child.

Here's what we know:

EDIT: Depending on what translation you read of some of the extra materials, Freinag implies that Thistle is the same age as some of his advisors.

Here's a detailed translation of this panel from my friend Fumi:

Elves age 5 times slower than tall-men.

16 year old tall-men in Dungeon Meshi's medieval time period are adults, they commonly join the military, get married, have children, etc.

An 80 year old elf is an adult. Pattadol is 82 and she's a lieutenant in a military unit. It's her first job and she's obviously a rookie, but Captain Flamela tells Pattadol to accomplish her mission or die trying.

Many fully adult elves look like what we might consider children or young teens, because they're short, petite, and have androgynous features.

An average elven adult is around 150-155cm tall (5 ft), meaning some are shorter than that, and some are taller. Thistle is 130 cm, which is short, but not unheard of.

Fleki is 130 (26) years old and she's 140 cm tall (4'7")

Otta is 137 (27) years old and she's 130 cm (4'5") tall, the same height as Thistle!

They are both women, but there's probably plenty of elven men in their height range.

Just so we can compare Thistle to some adult elven men, Mithrun and his brother are probably adults (or close to it) in the panel on the left.

Mithrun (in this image) is somewhere between 75 and 144 (probably in his 80's), and his brother is older than him (so he could be in his late 80s or 90s). As you can see, they don't look that different from Thistle, Otta or Fleki.

So, how old is Thistle?

(Spoilers below the cut)

Thistle was brought to the royal court as a child (found on the street, stolen or purchased, we don't know how they got him). At the absolute youngest I'd guess Thistle is 25 years old here (so about 5 years old for a tall-man.) He can already play the flute, and possibly the lute, and most children that aren't prodigies can't handle playing an instrument (physically or mentally) until they're around 5.

EDIT: We now know that Thistle is the same age as Freinag, the king that takes him in! So Thistle must be at least 25 years old in this comic, though realistically he could be anywhere from 25 to 40 based on how Kui drew Freinag.

He lived in the court for an unknown amount of time, Freinag hasn't changed much but Thistle appears to have aged a little, so let's say it's been 5 years and Thistle is 30 (6) when Delgal is born. More than 5 years could have passed, but I'm trying to keep the numbers low.

Delgal gets married and has a child. Delgal should be at least 15 at this point, but since he has a full mustache before his wedding, I think he's in his 20's, since teenagers tend to not be the best at growing robust facial hair.

(He has a full beard by the time Eodio's a young child.)

Thistle puts the kingdom inside the dungeon around this point, however, people are still aging: Delgal's grandson Yaad is born, and Eodio is clearly a young adult here, probably in his 20's. Therefore, there is NO REASON to assume Thistle stopped aging. "The dungeon lords don't age" is a common fan headcanon I've seen people spreading, but it has no clear canon basis.

Yaad ages until he looks about 13-15 years old, and at this point all of the people of the kingdom and Thistle appear to stop aging, and 1,000 years pass.

So, the youngest Thistle could possibly be, if he was 30 (6) when Delgal was born, if Delgal was 15 when he had Eodio, and Eodio was 15 when he had Yaad, and Yaad is 13 years old...

Is 73 years old, which would make Thistle about 14.6 years old by tall-man standards.

HOWEVER, I think it's VERY unlikely that all the characters are that young.

I think it's clear from Kui's drawings that Delgal and Eodio are not 15 years old when they become fathers, and that Freinag is at least 25 when he takes in Thistle.

If we assume Thistle was 30 when Delgal was born, and Delgal and Eodio were both at least 20 when they had children, even if Yaad is only 13 years old, that makes Thistle at least 83 years old (16.6), and makes him older than Pattadol, who is an adult at 82.

However, I think it's entirely possible that Thistle was anywhere from 40-50 when Delgal was born, and Delgal could have been anywhere from 20 to 30 when he had Eodio, and Eodio could have been anywhere from 20-25 when he had Yaad. If you use the maximum ages, and assume Yaad is 15, then Thistle could be as old as 120 (24).

I think a reasonable middle ground is assuming Thistle was 30 (6) when Delgal was born, Delgal had Eodio at 25, Eodio had Yaad at 20, and Yaad is 15... Which would make Thistle 90 (18) years old.

This of course says nothing about Thistle's emotional maturity or sanity, he's obviously stunted in some ways, but the point I want to make here is:

Thistle's age could be anywhere from 14.6 to 24 at the most extreme, but more realistically he's somewhere between 16.6 and 18.

And that's not even counting the thousand years that he's lived since then!

And that's all I've got to say about that 🙏🙏🙏🙏

(EDIT: Follow-up post with additional evidence here.) EDIT 2: I've seen a lot of people talking about the page Kui drew talking about elven earmuffs. It's considered just barely okay for Pattadol to wear them, but it's ok for Thistle to wear them... In which case I'd say Thistle could be any age younger than 83. That's handy as it knocks out some of the older ages!

So in that case Thistle's age is between 73 years old and 82, which makes him developmentally between 14.6 and 16.4!

[dunmeshistash]

Hello! Do you happen to know if it's possible for two (or more) people to be dungeon lord at the same time? I feel like it was mentioned somewhere but I can't remember where

Pretty sure it's not possible, since Laios becoming the dungeon lord made so Marcille wasn't one anymore, and the Canaries talk about how someone new becoming a Dungeon Lord is one of the ways to stop being one.

I tried to look for a more direct reference but I don't remember, these two are the best I got (chapter 86 and 88)

[dzook]

elves be going through it fr

(ref image under cut)

[tatzelvvurm]

Marcille sorry for reposting, wanted to fix a mistake

[hawberries]

this is the chilchuck situation . to me

(a reference to twelfth night (2009) ft anne hathaway)