#fnaf security breach theory

[goblinsatchel]

This post below inspired me

[amphiptere-art]

I woke up. My brain remember this again so I need to put it down somewhere.

Little theory about the DCA. So. Everyone knows there's this weird moon / daycare section near parts and service. It's what you go into to get the security pass. So you can fix, and help Freddy after Moon kidnaps him. They're literally is this giant hallway full of fake mini daycares and tons of moon merch and posters.

Not a spic of sun. At least if we're not looking at the sunny rolling hills and rainbows. I'll go make sure to have a double check. But from my memory there's nothing sun related in that tunnel. The only thing related to Sun in those tunnels. Is the fact that it seems to be going off of the day themes of the daycare. There's only that one specific room that contains the nightmare Marion plush That seems to be specifically themed towards starry night.

So I had a question when I was playing through the section. I was technically terrified of the endows the entire time. And also having much fun breaking their AI by stepping on boxes. But. I asked myself why there would be so much moon merch Specifically in this fake daycare.

Think about it. Why have this sunny day daycare, But only have moon merch around? It's themed like it's supposed to be during the day. There's only little things that are based around night. But there's not an image of sun anywhere. Just moon. And I started to question to myself. Was moon first?

Now Moon being first could be a lot of things. It could just be moon being the original AI that was split. It could just be that moon was the first AI made before sun. It could be moon was just the one they were merchandising first, before wacky things happened with his design and model. But I find it interesting that moon might have been first. At least in merchandising. But perhaps other places.

Imagine what pieces we have under that connotation. Because I think right now. The natural thought is that moon was second. Whether you are going off of the theater theory that moon was that secret evil personality, and sun was the base. Or perhaps you're just going off of the fact that maybe Moon only came from the virus, and so he's second in that scenario too.

But like imagine this idea that moon was the original and sun wasn't. Moon was the original theater person and sun was only brought up for the daycare. Imagine if it was moon that was taken over by the virus and sun was the one pushed out of the way as like the unneeded emotions or something. Being a baby AI in those moments.

It's an interesting twist. Either way you put it. Moon has been around longer. Or at least he was supposed to. He was probably the one manufactured as a little endo in those mini daycare hallways. He was probably the one down there. Not Sun. Sun came after. Or at least wasn't present when they were making those hallways and merch. It's an interesting little add-on to remember.

[ilhamiman]

FNAF Security Breach Theory (Monty's hatred towards G. Freddy and missing G. Bonnie)

Yes, I know, it's pretty late but it took me awhile to figure out (and listening to theories in YouTube) what's going on between Monty and G. Freddy. This is my take of theory of Monty towards not just G. Freddy but with G. Bonnie so no bashing me. Ok, here's what I thought.

I personally think that Monty was a completely different animatronic before he joined the Glamrock band like the OG Foxy to the OG trio. Monty was a different character and had his own personal joint so he live separately from the gang and he's fully aware of the Glamrocks but there was one point he got jealous of the Glamrocks (mainly G. Freddy) as his own golf spot wasn't getting many fans as they have. Monty eventually despise of G. Freddy cause of G. Freddy being such nice guy and very popular with the kids. Not just that, Monty craved to be on the spotlight on stage like the Glamrocks have so he looked at the Glamrocks to see who's the weakest among them and he chose G. Bonnie cause he not just see him as the weakest but also very close to G. Freddy; he wanted to give G. Freddy as much misery as he can. So, Monty watched G. Bonnie's movement and plan out how to get rid of him without alerting the STAFF bots and security guard. He lured G. Bonnie in behind his bowling alley and attacked him. Yes, I'm aware in Security Breach, G. Bonnie last seen was in Monty's Golf area but in Ruin DLC, G. Bonnie's body was found behind of G. Bonnie's bowling alley with a broken bowling bowl. I think by the time Monty started doing this, Vanny was already present and must have corrupted the system when G. Bonnie was in Monty's golf course and didn't updated his movement from there to his bowling alley. Btw, a bit sidetrack here, I heard some people theorized it was Roxy who attacked G. Bonnie cause of the green paint on the body of G. Bonnie but it's very unlikely cause she doesn't have any motivation against G. Bonnie, plus her nails may be green but if she attacked him, her nails must have chipped instead a green stain on G. Bonnie's destroyed body. So this theory is a bust, I still think it's Monty who attacked G. Bonnie cause he's the only green character and it's likely his green paint on him got on G. Bonnie's body when he attacked him. Monty's old hands must have been damaged so hard so he got a new different hands when he was in the repair room. After he done dealing with G. Bonnie, the people in Freddy Enterprise were discussing how to replace the missing G. Bonnie and they decided to have Monty as his replacement and Monty nearly got his dream on spot light but he still want to replace G. Freddy but can't touch him cause like I said G. Freddy is very popular animatronic and he's basically untouchable so he simply have to deal with it. Also, the gondola ride in Ruin DLC, before Monty become a Glamrock member, that he was "more humble and looked up at G. Bonnie" thing, yeah, I call that BS cause that's most likely a cover up story from the Freddy Enterprise of the missing G. Bonnie. Anyway, that's my theory on Monty's hatred to G. Freddy and him attacked G. Bonnie. I know I'm late in this but I don't care. Hope you enjoy reading this.

[redtoondevils]

The Endo daycare in the Utility Tunnels. I do have some words to say about that. It's not in the Daycare, It's the one underground, far away from the daycare.

The one that has a separate play den, and a room that has the TV in it. There is a few suspicious...Questiones about it. I was not aware of this, at all.

The only time where, I head about it, was from a Youtube video. Talking about the Endo daycare theory. And when someone mentioned 'Endo Daycare'. And my reaction was, 'Endo Daycare?' I have been seeing it.

I didn't know what they were talking about. Until, when I finally played up to that point. Before, I played Ruin. And it is night themed, with Moon. Straight away, I could see there's so many things wrong with it.

Like...First up, WHY is there a daycare, separate from the main one? Why is it underground? And why...Why fill up the Room, with Endo's that come to life. At any time, and are too scary for little kids! What? What are they planning at? So, that's a red flag for a law and order.

I don't think, any parent would be okay with this. I'm just gonna break it down, from what I understand. So, it is proven that Moon is in charge in here. What exactly is this used for?

Is it suppose to be like a sleep over thing? This, is the part where, people believe that Vanny, and Moon are working together. For a purpose.

And it is rumored, that this is where the 'Rule Breakers' go to. Which is a very odd location. And then he...Baby sits them? Lectures them? Locks them in? Then, what happens to them after? Because,, if the Rabbit is going to lure them in there, and Moon takes them.

I wouldn't think they would get out, so simple. Moon is designed to act, and play and other generic things like that. I don't think he'd kill. But, he'd most certainly punish. (Of any kind. It's still a punishment.) I think, this is one of the cases why, the children, has been disappearing.

And the fact, that there is another basement, underground for Vanni too. That's the outside theory, but the inside theory. Is like, so what's going on with that? It is strange.

And...Okay, so what does Vanny do? Does she have stock holm syndrome? Is she luring kids in, just to find comfort? Or is it something else? What could this be all about? It doesn't sound good.

But, then I'm also extending this theory, that...Is this the daycare once before. Before the use of Moon? Like, it is night themed for him. But, I'm more wondering about, if this used to be a beta daycare before Sun. I think their idea, was to use Moon first, but then changed their minds?

And the clues, could follow to this, that it then became, and ghet replaced as the Endo room. But, they forgot to take down the night theme. Right, right...That makes a little bit more sense, giving this some background context.

I think that's what it used to be, before they changed it. Because, the parents complained. Good thing they did, and they thought to change it into the Endo. Room. Still, made that mistake again.

Because, it's not safe. But forgotten to remove the 'daycare.' out of it. And that's why, it's the odd Endo room. That's, my theory, and that's what I think of it's generic use.

Everything else, is strange.

[brightstar2000]

I figured i would share a little theory of mine.

A theory on how i think the animatronics in security breach are as sentient as they are.

I have my own discord server where i keep notes on everything i come up with. Easier than writing them on paper.

Anyways, here is a screenshot of my theory. Whether people agree or not, i don't mind either way.

Again, this is only a theory! And it's the basis of my view on Security Breach, and its' characters!

[chloesimaginationthings]

Matpat will always be welcomed into the FNAF universe

[maibeloved]

Bonnie meets the child

[thebearme]

FNAF RUIN DOODLES

[glammiketrash]

Monty didn’t attack Bonnie. Freddy did.

This post is not a joke: Ruin gives us enough clues to know that Bonnie was attacked by Freddy the day he disappeared, and Monty saw the attack.

Word count: 2457 words.

Yup, I wrote an entire essay with pictures to take the blame from a fictional gator that became my comfort character. If someone from Steel Wool is reading this: Yes, I’m ok, thanks for asking. If you want to send a cute Monty picture to my inbox, it is open and I’ll be all over the place if you do it.

Now, let me take you with me on this wild ride, because this theory fits the narrative of both Security Breach and Ruin so well that I have to clap at Steel Wool if it is actually correct and not me playing with the puzzle pieces incorrectly. So, here we go!

Bonnie, judging by the golden eyes and his travel pattern, was protecting someone like Freddy did with Gregory. Important damage was directed to the stomach hatch, where a kid could hide.

He has claw marks there, but Monty didn’t got his until the first was decommissioned and was then modified to play his bass.

The scratches in his hatch are green, but also the cracks over it. It looks like it is his base color instead of paint left by the attacker. The next video is from FazFriends, where they look at every single detail in the Ruin animatronic models. Their analysis are totally worth your attention if you like SB!

Monty has black nails, even before he was modified to play Bonnie’s bass. They also are kinda blunt, and the marks the attacker left seem more clean and sharp in the ends.

Now, there aren’t lots of animatronics that have claws. We have Roxy (and I’m guessing Foxy, if he ever existed as an animatronic different to her), The mimic/Burntrap, who doesn’t really seem an option because he’s slow and in life support in SB and sealed in Ruin, and… there’s Freddy. But, and here’s the twist, not normal Freddy, who couldn’t get through gates like Monty until he got his claws.

I’m talking about this thing.

Not only do we have environmental clues that confirm this attack, but also a key clue that wouldn’t make any sense otherwise.

Let’s start with the Prototype itself!

Check those claws. They are sturdy enough to survive all the damage this model has received, and extremely sharp at the end. Now compare Bonnie and its hand together…

It’s a perfect fit. The metal is a bit bent in the left, but if you could lower it, the finger length, the palm, even the distance and shape between the thumb and index are the same than the hole in Bonnie’s chest.

If that detail is true, all pieces of the narrative fit together. Here’s what happened, which I will explain further adding sources:

Monty saw Freddy’s prototype attacking Bonnie (who was in safe mode) in Gator Golf’s catwalks. The hurricane hole-in-one was activated, causing them both to fall. He could see the prototype losing its head and taking damage to its leg, but Bonnie was nowhere: he was either able to go back to Bonnie Bowl by himself using the distraction or the fall knocked him out and was dragged there, where he was heavily damaged.

This next part is not so clear, so I’ll give you my version of what I think happened that night: Bonnie alerted police that a kid was in danger. They show up, but Vanessa sent them away, claiming she was the only person there and it was a prank call (False Alarm message in SB). Vanny uses Bonnie’s trust on Freddy against him: she sends the prototype to go after the kid and him. He makes it to Monty’s, where the hurricane causes damage to the prototype, and is then finally attacked and disassembled behind his attraction to silence him and bury any clue or what happened (his parts are all over the place, one of his arms has weel marks, and Ruin follows the PQ ending where Freddy is disassembled. In SB, endos come out from the lines to attack us, and in Ruin we see the zone where his vanity is infested with STAFF robots, both in its normal version and in VR, where a giant STAFF robot is seen being dragged to a door while it leaves scratch marks on the floor).

Fazbear Entertainment pretended they actually looked for Bonnie and found nothing at all. As a final punishment for his disobedience he was actively being erased from existence: most of his art was removed, and some ask for a re-theme of his attraction (Re-theme SB message). They make Monty the main bassist, giving him his green room too.

These changes are being quickly pushed after his decommission: Bonnie still has power when we find him, Monty falls from the catwalks “a month ago” and snaps in half, a place where he goes every time he skips a performance (Monty Mischief SB message), people constantly ask for Bonnie and there isn’t an approved answer to give, the bowling alley still wasn’t given a re-theme after taking out most of Bonnie’s images.

Despite FazEnt efforts, Bonnie is remembered, specially by a depressed Monty.

His body was modified, he was given his bass, his glasses, his room, his role. The higher ups clapped thinking about the possibility of him being even more popular than Bonnie, his disappearance becoming yet another opportunity to make money.

And it was Freddy’s prototype’s fault. His normal life, the person he admired the most, his own body, were taken from him because of him.

From that day, and after getting new claws, his attitude becomes obsessive, endlessly searching for what was left of Bonnie after the rest gave up: destroying fences to explore the undergrounds, constantly missing shows and always being found in the catwalks, even after being snapped in half by the hole-in-one bucket, trying to guess where his body was. His last known location was his attraction, so he should still be there somewhere, isn’t it?

Let me repeat this: he prefers looking for Bonnie in the catwalks even at risk of his own integrity than performing.

There are more details that show us he does care for him: there are four official images left of Glamrock Bonnie in the PizzaPlex, three of them in Monty’s ride, the last one at the entrance of his own attraction, where some animations can still be seen. These cutouts are in perfect shape, while Freddy’s is light off.

There is also a headless Freddy statue that once you go to FazerBlast screams “prototype”.

It looks like it’s been decapitated by a hurricane, some “cables” coming out of its head like the prototype, which has cables coming out of its neck.

This damage couldn’t have been caused by the earthquake: the head should had fallen to the ground instead of being pinned on the hurricane. Plus, it doesn’t match the theme of the ride, based on cutouts, and while the rest of the elements are placed in scenarios and their composition is clearly studied, this statue breaks the symmetry of the hurricane’s eye element, that is supposed to give you the illusion that you are entering its eye and being pushed out to the main attraction.

What’s more, in a story exclusively about Monty’s past and how he became a solo bassist in the PizzaPlex thanks to Bonnie, attracting the same amount of people than the Glamrocks themselves, a Freddy statue at the end doesn’t make any sense sense at all… Unless it was put there with a very particular purpose.

I like to think it’s part of an environmental story telling from Steel Wool, specially when you read the rest of clues together.

There’s more to say about this statue than the lack of a head: look at its leg damage, and how it matches the prototype’s heavily damaged one, and how the hand that is visible reflects the light making it look like it has long claws despite Freddy having short ones like the rest of the band.

It also has two blue long lines through his chest that resemble the ones in Bonnie’s.

If you still have doubt about how it is part of a scene representing the night of the attack, then you should know there is an easter egg here: if you follow the part of the tornado that goes up, you can see a Bonnie cutout at the very top of it. He’s far away from the rest of the scene and he looks like if he was being knocked by the tornado. If you zoom to look at his face, you can see he has a worried expression.

Monty didn’t destroy any of the images of Bonnie or his previous iterations, not the cutouts, not this poster, not the bass that belonged to him, even after causing damage to his room.

There is a detail in Gator Golf that is easy to miss: An intact poster of the original Bonnie near a log he uses as a hideout in Ruin (we see him quickly going out of it when we approach it).

He looks similar to the illustration at the entrance of Bonnie Bowl, but this image is not very charming. He looks half dead, yeah...? If you then go to Bonnie’s, some big screens are still on and advertising pizza. When you wear the mask, they change to a glitched version of the Bonnie animation, where his eyes go blank in a similar way to this poster.

This spot couldn’t have been used by Vanny: it is decorated exactly like the rest of Gator Golf in the base game, which ends with us saving Vanessa and exiting the PizzaPlex together.

The poster also has a drawing of Freddy stuck on it. In this chapter you can also find the Bonnie’s piñata collectible, the first time we can see his Glamrock design and the first clue of him having suffered an attack (it has a big gash in his chest).

He could have easily taken it down if he wanted, specially when it is so close to his hideout and he’s in such a volatile state, but he keeps it right beside it.

But the real Freddy (or, at least, things that resemble him) seems to cause some kind of reaction even in the base game, yes?

The most common example in Security Breach is the arcade version of Monty’s Gator Golf. There are two possible readings for it, depending on if you think it represents Monty’s mind or if you think it has been hacked to change his behavior.

Hole 1 depicts Freddy separated from the group, a big distance between them. Hole 9 shows him in a dumpster, and Chica, Roxy and Monty playing together. He’s never part of the group, so either Monty hates him or he was hacked so he would hate him, right?

But the main show were he looks happily at him while playing, the fact that he never attacks him even after being hacked, the presence of images of him on other holes all perfectly light and ok like this balloon, and the eye color difference between Hole 1 and 9, make me think Steel Wool is trying to tell us a way different story.

The Freddy in the dumpster is the only one with golden eyes. Hole 9 represents what is happening the night we play as Gregory, the AR part of the AR-cade, and of the main reasons the Monty taking down theory was so popular.

That night, Roxy, Chica and him are working on finding the kid to the point that their cases crack and get dirty, while Freddy not only glitched at the start of the show hours before, but is now also walking around the PizzaPlex doing NOTHING instead of helping (apparently).

It’s the animatronic equivalent of a group project were one of the members does nothing, so you have to do their part and then they show up and are praised. It makes sense he would be angry at the situation and think he’s trash, but even so, there are no real confrontations between them.

But what about Hole 1, then? The answer is the fireflies. There are some fireflies at the left part, but the right, where Freddy is looking, has other set of lights. If you calculate the distance from Chica to him, the center is almost where the hole is, the part of the arcade that is supposed to drag your attention. Having an empty space there feels uncomfortable and a very questionable decision from whomever designed the scene, but if this one is a reflection from reality or Monty’s current mind state, why aren’t Freddy’s eyes gold?

Well, I don’t think he is separated from his band.

I think someone is missing from the picture instead.

Bonnie was erased from the Arcade.

As it was said, these changes were quick and non-planned: they deleted his model from the arcade, but had no time to move and reprogram the positions of the rest of the characters so the space between them was filled. As a consequence, when you play this level, your attention is taken from the hole to the distance between them.

It is void, awkward, it makes you uncomfortable. You know something is missing, but you can’t quite tell what it is yet. It makes you wish there was one more character there even before you knew there actually was.

Once you learn what happened, how his story ties to the place this scenario represents, the void he left in Freddy and Monty specifically, Hole 1 gains a new meaning, and it hits you. When you go back to the PizzaPlex as Cassie and play the arcade, there’s no joy left there. No fireflies, no Glamrocks, just ruins. Two pairs of red eyes and a pile of Nightmare STAFF bots. That’s all that’s left.

But if you still need one more clue to convince you that the prototype was the one that attacked Bonnie, then let me tell you there is a final one that wouldn’t make sense otherwise:

The AR collectibles dialogue.

Cassie always makes a commentary about the things she finds: Monty’s AR plushie being very glitchy, how she wants to add Roxy’s one to her collection, how the her father wouldn’t tell her why they replaced Bonnie and how he was his dad’s favorite…

But she also asks him what happened to him, and gets an answer when she gets the last collectible.

The AR Golden Bonnie is hidden in Bonnie Bowl, next to a Wet Floor Sign bot.

She hasn’t been to Fazer Blast yet.

But the description answers the question that she asked him: a prototype.

Bonnie was decommissioned by Freddy’s prototype.

And the only ones that know are a kid lead to her death that can hear his agony through the Wet Floor Bots and unreal collectibles, and an animatronic blamed for his death and told he’ll never be him, obsessed with his loss and with finding whatever is left of the person that he admired the most and helped him become the star he once was.

[unfortunateoil]

Even in retirement Matpat is still tormented by fnaf

[amphiptere-art]

Security breach ruin theory stream.

So the theory stream went pretty well. Labeled out a bunch of options and details for what exactly is happening with the eclipse and the daycare attendant in security breach.

You can watch the stream here. The beginning was a little boring but you can skip ahead to about 30 minutes in where I get blank piece of paper and I actually start talking about the theories. I am not going to go over everything we talked about. But I guess here's the tiny rundown?

First thing first is the daycare attendant actually controlled by the virus? Is moon mad at sun for other reasons? Did it have to do something with the cancellation of nap time? What's the daycare attendant part of the theater? Is eclipse connected to the theater in some way? Is eclipse a nanny program that was added afterwards? Is he somehow a combined version or maybe a separate entity entirely? Is eclipse just the rebooted version of Moon? Is the balloon world arcade game representing Moon taking over the Sun? Or is it supposed to correlate to eclipse? Is the DCA locked to only to the daycare accounted areas or can he go into the atrium and further into the pizza plex? Why did the sun say he needs to be "whole" and yet can single out moon as a separate entity by saying "other me"? What is that sweet boy eclipse!?

And I think that's a quick rundown of every question we dug ourselves into.

I was drawing wild sketches on what we were talking about while we theorized. So you can see those pictures.

The one above is the messy version while the second one is the one I tried to clean up.

Sorry my writing's not good.

[zombie-and-puppet-child]

One of the running jokes I have with myself while working on this AU is that in the background of everything the FNAF YouTubers are working as dayshift employees for the Pizzaplex

And this specific image got stuck in my brain so I just had to draw it

[chipistrate]

The Wizards Favorite Apprentice

One more piece before the countdown 2 Ruin, this time featuring my favorite little dude; Gregory(fucked up edition)<3

RBs appreciated!

Also I hope you don't mind the tag but LOOK!!! THE LITTLE DUDE!!!!!!!! @astro-inthestars

[summertrynnacope]

John FuhNaff is crying in the corner :'(

[missingkeyy]

WITH COLORS!!! yayyy 💕

[local-diavolo-anon]

i apologise if i'm posting this much about the DLC but i am very excited

so theory time! this time about Glamrock Bonnie!

someone found Glamrock Bonnie in bonnie bowl and someonw else got his pieces from the gamefiles and stuck the model back together (the images are not mine, i have no idea who even psoted them ebcause they've been reposted a crapload of times, but i know the originals came from twitter)

i feel a bit sad than logically he was there the whole time during the main game as well and we simply couldn't see him

but also: He has claw marks on his chest, which i think pretty much confirms that monty is the one that broke him apart.

however. that's not nearly enough damage to decommission a glamrock animatronic, as we have seen.

hell monty looks like this in the dlc and he is still kicking (probably by the power of god tho) and i remember seeing THIS video some time ago, so let me bring you something a bit painful:

most people i've seen pinpoin monty's actions toward bonnie as envy and resentment, however in monty golfs whenever we see character cutouts or holograms Freddy is the one in the shadows, always. wouldn't have made it more sense for monty to try and attack someone he quite clearly disliked instead of bonnie? we know freddy and bonnie were close, so with some stretch you could even say monty was jealous of freddy's relationship with bonnie (but i'm not going to account that here) If the theory from that video is true and bonnie was the first and only trial test of the grlitchtrap virus on a full glamrock animatronic, what if monty noticed? what if monty saw that bonnie was acting weird, and when confronted him realized something was severely wong for a reason or another? and either to prevent the spread of the virus, OR simply out of self preservation he was forced to fight with bonnie? because if the mimic were to see someone noticed him, he'd likely try and make them disappear in one way or another so my theory-timeline is: Bonnie was infected, started acting weird, wandered around and ultimately ended in monty golf, monty saw him and went to him, then noticed something was wrong, bonnie attacked him to make sure nobody knew, and monty had to defend himself.

i'm fairly sure this is at least somewhat correct because Monty's claws can do some serious damage, and definitely more than what Bonnie's torso and head show. (edit: yes even without upgrade, Monty still has very big and sharp claws, realistically they could totally do that amount of damage, + in the original draft of the game, from Monty you were supposed to take his legs, and the claw upgrade was not a thing at all, yet it was always hinted he did caused bonnie's decommission)

all of this to say that bonnie more likely was decommissioned not because of the damage, but rather because because when technicians tried to fix him they noticed something had infected him, and to prevent any further spreading they were forced to deactivate him.