#helluva Sinsmas

[fan-of-chaos]

Please, let me explain.

Helluva boss season 2 episode 12 vs Helluva boss: Look my way parallers

[timkontheunsure]

Like father like daughter

Ok thought it's be interesting to compare Stolas action on Full Moon, and Via's in Sinsmas. Because they're very similar people.

Via isn't trying to hurt her dad in Sinsmas, like Stolas wasn't trying to hurt Blitz.

She's pulling the same "freeing" rubbish that Stolas was trying to do with Blitz.

She's unilaterally deciding what's best for her loved one.

Because she assumes she's was only an obligation, a burden to him.

She thinks that just by being in his life she was actively making his life worse.

When Blitz appears to not choose Stolas freely, (yes Stolas is a dummy), Stolas thinks he's a monster, that was abusing Blitz. Someone Blitz's hates.

Via's in the exact same headspace, thinking Stolas didn't pick her.

That's why she assumes that she's unloved. That Stolas has lied to her about loving her.

When neither Stolas or Blitz were lying here. (Seriously Blitz was using roleplay as a excuse to say it. Can you imagine him every agreeing to doing this with Verosika. Nope, he'd have run several rings).

But like how Stolas would have done better asking Blitz what he wants out of their relationship. (Not blindsided him about ending the deal. Making Blitz cry, panic, and get rightly angry). Via would have done better asking her dad questions and listening to the answers.

Stolas hurts Blitz here, because he badly misreads the situation, and by not involving Blitz in how to end the deal.

Like how Via hurts her dad badly, by assuming he would be better off without her in his life.

But also because by doing this she's hurting herself too. And her dad would never want Via isolated and alone.

Especially because by shutting down the questions she doesn't the important safety information that Stella is dangerous, now that Stolas can't protect her.

[anthurak]

Okay so it turns out that there is actually a some BIG scenes from the trailer that we didn't see this episode.

Sinsmas is going to be INTERESTING XD

[the-irreverend]

There were a lot of things I loved about this finale, and one of my favourites was how they wrote Octavia's conflict with her dad, and the inner conflict within herself!

This little moment y'all see above perfectly captures what I'm talking about. Just look at her expression when Stolas is begging her to her him out. It's not one of bitterness, rage, and simple hatred, it's one of sorrow, regret, and even sympathy!

It perfectly captures the conflicted feelings that she has about the whole ordeal. It demonstrates that even after all that's happened, she still loves him and cares for him and doesn't want to leave him behind, but the feelings of betrayal and resentment that Stolas's actions caused her are just too much for her to let go. It reminds me a lot of how Toriel was toward Asgore when she met him again in the Pacifist Route of Undertale.

That's so much more interesting and narratively compelling than just having her turn against him on the spot and just straight up hating him!

[cute-little-fly]

I was just rewatching Sinsmas and Octavia’s reaction makes so much sense, and is rooted so much in the dysfunctional family dynamic.

Ik a lot of people have pointed out this, and how much this topic has been discussed, but, so many people still don’t realize that the only thing that balanced the dynamic in the household for Via was Stolas. This is why she is so devastated.

Even if she sees her mother abusing her by taking her phone and referring to her as: “his daughter” like if she wasn’t in the room, she knows that if Stolas was there Stella would not be allowed to do that, or Stolas would take the phone and give it back to her and defend her. Or maybe that would not even happen. You see now?

Stolas was the only thing shielding her from the abuse by being the shield that took it. She is not completely conscious of this, but she just knows that Stolas left, and that she is alone now.

This is why it is so hard for her to accept the reality that Stella was abusive, because she loves her mother even if she can’t really count on her as a parent. Via was able to bond at some extent with Stella because Stolas was the one taking the blows, not because Stella was really ���calmer” before. Stella is there as she always has been, but Via thinks Stella is worse now because of what Stolas did…

In Via’s eyes he left her defenseless and never was trully happy even with her. She thinks his unhappiness is because he stayed for obligation and not for love, but you can love your daughter and still be unhappy in your life in general because you can’t use your child to fill your own void like that.

You need someone to comfort you, and you are your kid’s caretaker, so your kid can’t help with that. Is actually a good parental trait that Stolas didn’t parentified her, and didn’t made her fill his own emotional needs by telling her his pain, and making her comfort him about it. But, it also was bad that he never explained anything because it kept Octavia in a parallel reality. However, this is a very hard situation to handle. Honestly I wouldn’t know what to tell a child in that situation.

For her it was she and Stolas against the world and that was fine the way it was.

Stolas was her everything while she grew up, her entire happiness. So, she feels a betrayal to learn that he wasn’t as happy as her in those moments (we know he was in those moments even if he endured unhappiness in the marriage and his personal life, but she thinks that).

Is so painful because they were the world for each other, but she doesn’t understand that he was so mistreated at the same time, and not loved back by anyone else. By an equal, by a partner or friends and he also has depression. That is not related to her…

[octavia-goetia17]

My favorite thing about this parallel is that it shows Stolas' better life. It's bright, colorful and a LOT less depressing. Imagine waking up to realize that your sort-of-boyfriend had given you his beloved horse plushies whilst you were sleeping throughout the night because he was actually considerate and thought you needed it.

[usausualex]

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[yesitsalivealiiiiiiiive]

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[alexdespell]

Have a happy helluva Sinsmas!🎄🎄🎄🎄

[thedrunkenreadersreviews]

A quick chat on why Stolas DID chose Blitz over Via

WAIT! Hold everything! Let me explain over a nice cup of steaming hot cocoa with some peppermint schnapps in the spirit of Sinsmas. Yeah?

*Sip, sip*

There we go. Now we're calming down. I'm going to combine "Master Mind" with "Sinsmas" in this analysis and I waited until "Sinsmas" came out before writing this because I wanted to see the outcome. And while my original prediction turned out to be the case, I am happy I waited to get the full picture. So let us begin.

*Sip, sip*

It all starts with acknowledging one thing: Stolas does love Blitz. Not to the full extent that he can (more on that later) but by "Master Mind," it is implied with that "always" at the end that Stolas knows he's in love with Blitz, and "worse" than that, it is not a choice. There is no "moving on" or "stepping away" from Blitz. He's fully entangled at that point and he knows it. So let's look at "Master Mind" now that we have acknowledged this.

*Sip, sip*

In "Master Mind," Stolas, still depressed as hell, does not get any warning that the imp that he is in love with is about to be publicly executed for breaking a law that Stolas helped him (and encouraged him through their original deal) to break. At that point, the executioner was getting ready and Blitz's head was damn near on the block. And just with a second to spare, Stolas steps in and essentially takes the blame for everything. Because, for Stolas, at that moment, it is not a matter of choice anymore, but sheer survival. Blitz will not be okay without Stolas' intercession at that moment. Knowing that Blitz is safe, Stolas accepts his fate. He willingly approaches the executioner's block and does not argue with the verdict though that verdict does not end up being the case.

Many have argued that the first question that Stolas asks upon his banishment was about Via; and while that is true, his first thought when he took the blame for Blitz was not about Via but about accepting Blitz's penalty as his own. There was no arguing, "Let me take the fault but please consider my daughter."

*Sip, sip*

Now, let me say this.

I understand.

I understand that in that moment, Stolas did not have time to think. I understand that he rushed to the courtroom with the only thought being "I have to save Blitz." Undoubtedly, he was also thinking about how he is partially responsible for Blitz about to be executed. It is a mixture of desperation, anxiety, panic, and guilt all culminating in a matter of seconds. The mind can only handle so many thoughts at once. In life or death, we don't tend to think about consequences. We just go into survival mode. That is what Stolas was in. Survival mode for the person that he loves that is about to die.

When that threat is neutralized, he has a moment to think about the consequences and that is when he asks about Via.

So, for Stolas it is:

Problem: Blitz is about to be executed for using MY book.

Solution: Stop that from happening by taking the blame for it.

Consequence: Blitz lives.

It is a split-second decision infused with panic and desperation.

*SIp, sip*

Now, let's look at his banishment. The adrenaline starts to fall. Blitz is safe. Stolas is going to live but the stars won't talk to him anymore. Not for another 100 years. He has just been stripped of his titles, his power, his home. Everything. All of this swirling in his mind, him being given a moment to now think about the consequences since that life/death threat has been removed, Stolas is sort of locked in autopilot blur.

It is when he sees Blitz and Loona that it clicks.

"I just lost Via."

This is the way, I believe, that minds work in such high-stakes situations. It is not a question to me: Via is the number one most important person in Stolas' life. I would never argue against that.

In the execution moment, he did choose Blitz over Via---willing to die for Blitz. But only because, in the moment, it was NOT a matter of Blitz or Via. It was a matter of "I have to save this person by any means necessary" stuck on repeat until it happened.

*Sip, sip*

In "Sinsmas," the reality of it all starts to sink in. Not only does he spend the entirety of the episode pinning for a lick of attention or acknowledgment from Via, but he also has a mental break in which he openly admits to himself that throwing himself into that courtroom and so openly being willing to die for Blitz was stupid. Not because Blitz wasn't worth rescuing but because he didn't think it through. He sobs not only over the fact that he lost Via, but also over the fact that he lost everything else! His house, his money, his status, his daughter are all being occupied by his abusive ex-wife and her obnoxious brother who almost had Blitz executed. Via is the final straw. He could handle everything else but not being able to see Via is something that he just cannot accept.

*Sip, sip*

Via's feelings are valid too. Although, misguided to some extent. Her song did an excellent job at showing what she thinks of Blitz. And she has every reason to think that way. Blitz is the one who "ruined" her parents' marriage in her opinion (it was ruined from the get-go but in Via's mind, it was Blitz), got her dad to openly accept public execution in his stead, leaving her behind. Blitz is the one Stolas "leaves" his family for. He is this dark, manipulative spirit, there to just destroy.

And then we see a glimpse into how Blitz views Via; as a potential addition. As a wanted addition. No, they don't interact much. And in regards to ruining Stolas' marriage, season 1 Blitz would not care at all. "Sinsmas" Blitz, when Via points him out at the end, looks down in shame. He knows he did damage, that he is partially to blame for this falling out between Stolas and Via. And he is ashamed. Where there was once indifference to Via, Blitz's (come on, guys, we're there at this point) love for Stolas has altered how he sees Via. She could be another daughter. Another addition to the family he yearns for. That is why she is in his vision. They see each other so differently because they are just on opposite sides of the situation.

It's tragic and beautiful and fantastic storytelling.

Because it's real.

*Sip, sip*

Because neither of my parents are horrible people. They are incredible people. But my mom took "happy pills" and my dad worked all the time. And they stayed for me just as Stolas stayed for Via. And my mom drifted towards someone else and my dad secluded himself into his work. And before long, I blamed a stranger for my family falling apart. And I blamed another for making sure it never repaired itself.

But my stepdad saved my mom.

And my stepmom saved my dad.

My family wasn't broken because of strangers. It was never whole to begin with. My parents just weren't meant for each other, and I see that now. My step-parents are additions in my holiday visions like Via is in Blitz's, though they started off as malicious shadows in my childhood like Blitz is in Via's song.

And just as it did not take me 100 years to figure this out, I do not think it will take Via a 100 either. She already knows about her uncle's hatred towards her father. Her mother is openly antagonistic towards them having any relationship and so there is no "hiding it" anymore.

*Sip, sip*

Via will come around. I think Blitz is going to have to help that along. Loona too. But she will. Because she still loves her dad. Because Stolas will never stop trying. Because Blitz loves Stolas, so he'll try too.

*Sip, sip*

And on the note of Stolas and Blitz; Stolas is not falling out of love with Blitz. Stolas, I think, is starting to feel a more genuine love for Blitz. While he was in love with Blitz prior to this episode, it is the fact that he no longer idolizes Blitz (starting around "Apology Tour") that he is able to communicate better with Blitz and is pulled into the reality of what being in love actually is; it is not the fantasy he wrote about in his journal, nor is it a rom-com. It's raw and challenging, and the people you love are going to piss you off and fuck up from time to time. But they'll give you a couch when you need it, make you breakfast in bed, catch rats in an alley for you, get you a job, and they may even slay an ice dragon for you. That doesn't mean the love is less or fading. It is becoming more real; he's not falling in love with idolized Blitz. He's falling in love with genuine Blitz---the true Blitz that Blitz himself did such an expert job at hiding for so long.

Likewise, Blitz is falling in love with Stolas. We saw it in "Master Mind." Not with just the song lyrics, but also in that Blitz does not question Stolas' insults towards him nor does he object to them---because he knows Stolas does not mean it. And when Stolas takes the fault, it finally sets in for Blitz that this prince, this Goetia, really does care no matter how hard Blitz pretends he did not or truly believed he did not. And that is why Blitz brings Stolas home and takes care of him. Best believe he is going to worship the ground that bird walks on! This humbling on Blitz's part, not Stolas', allows Blitz to better communicate with Stolas too! Allows Blitz to put more effort into the relationship now that he knows, without a doubt, that a relationship is possible and worth fighting for with Stolas.

*Sip, sip*

Stolas feels incredible grief and depression. You can't quit "happy pills" cold turkey. It tends to make the symptoms worse. Stolas lost everything---he lost Via. So even though all his dreams with Blitz are coming true, at what cost? Stolas feels guilt. He smiled and laughed and danced right after he accepted that Via is (in his mind) going to forget all about him. He did these things with the man he unintentionally threw all those things away for.

It is guilt that keeps Stolas' hands at his sides at the end of the episode. Guilt that has him so somber in the eyes and keeps the smile from his face.

It is guilt that has him looking up at the stars that once whispered to him---now silent for a hundred years.

*Sip, sip*

Merry Sinsmas everyone.

And have a happy new year!

Cheers.

*Sip, sip*

[oracleofsunnies]

Stolas during Sinsmas was just my absolute fav part of the episode, so here’s some screenshots.

Merry Sinsmas yall.

[timkontheunsure]

Stolitz horse wedding is back in & it's in a heart frame!!

jimena is an observant bugger

But we last saw this picture hidden under Blitz's calender in full moon

Yay!

[anthurak]

"Are you gonna run off with him?

And leave me behind?

Go away were I can't find you?"

So we all understand that Stolas, however unintentionally, validated EVERY LAST ONE of Octavia's fears this episode?

And that when Octavia tells Stolas "You never loved momma and you don't love me! You love him!" next episode, she has every reason to believe that?

This is one of the big reasons I think it might actually take Loona to reach out to Octavia, as I'm not really seeing ANYTHING Stolas could say or do to get Via to not hate him at this point. And that Loona doesn't so much convince Octavia to 'forgive' her father or 'give him another chance', but rather simply to not burn that bridge between them.

[acegalaxies]

and when you’re gone, i will be okay

[cute-little-fly]

Will there be a Vassago love triangle in Helluva Boss season 3?

I have been seeing some theories regarding Stolassago. While I think it is a cool ship and conceptually they are cute I think that they are very unlikely in canon, even if temporarily, and they are not the only possibility to happen.

Let me explain.

What we have seen about Vassgo in the show:

In the episode Mastermind he was shown as a very righteous but also extroverted bird. He seems to care about Stolas a lot, but Stolas seems surprised by this, so we don’t know how much they know each other and why their interactions were like that. (This is a mistery for me honestly, if you are interested other post have covered this).

Vassago seemed very devastated at outcome of the trial, and he seems to know that all of it was unfair.

❤️💙Love triangle theory🤍❤️

The theory basically is Stolas being in love with Blitzø but feeling attracted to Vassago because of a possible falling out between Stolitz. After sinsmas for me this became very unlikely… but let’s see the evidence that is usually used for this.

One thing used to fuel the theory (even if not directly related) are certain parallels between Blitzø and Vassago:

-They both have a Red/White/Yellow color palette

-Vassago has some feathers in the back of the head that have stripes, that could be analogue to the horns.

-Vassago is wearing a red suit of a similar shape than Blitzø’s in the front.

-They both have or had something to do with pirates. In recent merch dropped Vassago has maps and pirate treasure imaginery.

This is used usually as evidence that Stolas might like Vassago because they are similar.

However, I haven’t seen people point out that Vassago has similarities with Stolas too. Of course, some similarities might be because they both are a Goetian prince, but, the rest of the Goetias shown at the trial are not like them at all:

The ones that I can think of are:

-They both like singing and music (Yes, I am taking this just because of the “Cántalo baby”).

-Vassago has a lot of stars in his clothes and magic, like the star on his neck that he uses as a brooch.

-Vassago has also purple in part of his tail, and purple is a color that is also related to Stolas, because of night sky and stars.

-They both have a yellow or white lock of hair. In Stolas is inconsistent but now is permanent as the pupils so I will count this and assume he hid it before.

The similarities between both of them tend to be overlooked, but I think are important for this analysis… Vassago could relate and reflect both of them for some reason.

Other things people use as evidence or as possible hints for a romance are:

-Viv liking some tweets about Stolassago and how Vassago has something that seems personal with Stolas.

-They talked about a temporary love interest for Stolas (but could be the BTB guy).

-People believed there was a duet between them, but that got disproven. These are two separated songs.

-The pride parade official art.

I don’t think the tweets mean specifically a love triangle. Those are either just art or the statement that Vassago seems to care too much about Stolas. But Stolas not necessarily has to reciprocate that (in case is romantic). So this doesn’t suggest a love triangle, just hints a possible one sided crush. I don’t think Stolas has eyes for someone that isn’t Blitzø right now.

Regarding the pride parade art:

The argument here is that Vassago is looking Stolas way, and that Stolas ambiguously looking back, because he has an eye more open and how this kinda foreshadows a love triangle.

This doesn’t fully convince me. For me Stolas is looking at Blitzø, because even if he has his right eye more open his gaze is going down. I think this is a subtle misdirection. (But, this part is my opinion, i can’t fully discard it).

However, let’s look beyond them:

There is a small unknown imp that is looking at Vassago while he looks at Stolas, Stolas is looking to Blitzø (and Vassago?) and Andrealphus is looking Stolitz (or maybe everyone?) with a confused/disgusted face from behind.

Remember that Viv said Season 3 was a queer roller coaster? This seems like that to me.

It is also more interesting than the love triangle.

I honestly don’t know if this character is meant to be someone important or not (?). I just find super weird that he is looking at Vassago and that all the rest of the characters around them have been present in the series I think. As extras for Verosika, extras that are around parties or something. But this dude comes out of nowhere, and is too close to the main characters. (Maybe we have seen him before and I haven’t noticed, if that is the case please tell me).

People tend to ignore him, but he might be relevant. He also seems to be trans, which is cool, because there are very few main trans characters in the show (besides our dear Sally May of course).

This messy scenario has a lot of avenues to develop.

If Vassago crushes on Stolas at first, Stolas might feel uncomfortable because of the help he needs with Octavia. But we know our good boy won’t do anything bad intended ❤️. He could also be friend to Blitzø or something about the pirates?

I think that Stolas and Vassago could end up being similar to Blitzfizz. Two characters having chemistry that have a very good friendship, with maybe some old story behind them, at least from Vassago’s perspective because I don’t think Stolas noticed him at all before.

I really would like Vassago ending up positively influencing Stolitz in the long run.

The symbolism and details that make him similar to both of them are pretty interesting, and I am excited to see what this will bring us to the table.

[maxilsmaster]

TUMBLR HOLY FUCK

SINSMAS WAS SO FUCKING GOOD GO WATCH IT NOW IT’S FREE ON YOUTUBE actually here’s the link

‼️BIG spoilers under the cut‼️

stolas peasant arc!!!

i was hoping stella would be more subtly manipulative, but i guess i had my hopes too high. after all, this is stella we’re talking about

octavia’s song. oh my god. the references to episode 2’s song. loved it

blitzo is such a silly guy, also i love how his fantasy included not only stolas and loona, but octavia too

GET PUNCHED ANDREALPHUS YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT MOTHERFUCKER, GET HIS SHITTY PEACOCK ASS STOLAS

oh fuck??? loona upgrade

MOXXIE WITH SWORD MOXXIE WITH SWORD

AAAAAAAAAAAAA HOLY FUCK MILLIE MY GIRLLLLLL ALSO PLEASE STOP DRINKING YOU LITERALLY JUST FOUND OUT YOU’RE PREGNANT